I’m amazed that they claim there is no research evidence for lowered starch and sugars in the diet being beneficial. The research programnes some of us have linked to here are in many cases large scale and at least as decisive, if not more so, than the original research programmes on low fat high carb. These are people who appear not to be keeping up with the science, surprisingly. Michael Eades and others have a lot to say abou “Confirmation Bias”, ie that you pick up only the information you want to hear.

I wonder what Professor Roy Taylor would have to say to these colleagues comments about lack of evidence? He has done well-regarded studies, Diabetes UK are considering changing their advice after his research for them and The Blood Sugar Diet is based on his work, which did not spring from nowhere either. His papers are peer reviewed and reference the research of others too. Wise man, he’s not entering the arena.
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/medicalsciences/research/groups/profile/roy.taylor#tab_publications

So sorry I am not writing as much .

Just home . The vascular surgeon was lovely . He said Jim was fit enough for the op . He said that he would concentrate on the AAA Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm first then he might be able to do the one in the groin too . He obviously won’t know until he starts the op . He said it could possibly be done in 2 or 3 weeks . Just have to wait and see . xxxxx

Good news Wee x
Keep warm RT. Winter is finally here!
Happy fasting fellow Thursday fasters. P 😊

Have fun in wintery Melbourne girls. Sorry I can’t join you. 😊

Health coach I like the idea of the banana bread etc getting a vacation in the freezer!
How lovely it was to catch up with Bay this morning – our conversation left off from last time we were able to meet up 16 months ago – barely time to draw breath! Funny how you meet people on this thread and feel you have known them all your life.

Amazon,

Was it something you said?!

Thanks Purple, I have emailed it to several ‘not quite sure about fasting’ friends plus posted on f/b! We need to support Fung’s ideas because we KNOW they are right!
Have a great Friday all, I will be applying the above principles myself today!

Evening – Morning You
My FD went kind of okay! So long we try and support each other there is hope.
Purple went you sent us a link before o signed for Dr. Fung’s newsletter. I really love the way he makes everything clear for us to digest. I bet Big Pharma, Doctors, Lobbyst, Governmet are closing one eye on him. Yes…too much insulin it’s the real problem.
I loved the way I was so cotious with my meal and that drizzle of EVOO for the LCHF 👍
Loving his book as well! Reading it very slow👍
RT – this time I understood everything LOL
It’s terribly hot here and traffic it’s heavy because of Monday’s Memorial Day… It’s was predicted with lower gas prices this year.
Tomorrow I will be visiting a Girlfriend one hour away from home. I hope we can go out to eat so I don’t jeopardize my progress.
My back still not good! Chiro said it’s two steps forward and one back.
Be good everyone 😘
B

Morning/evening all,

So after dropping 12lbs quickly and then sticking for several weeks due to overindulgence on non FDs I’m now back to my previous low of this time last year and am very pleased.
I’m fasting again today and will continue with 3:4 the next two weeks. I seem to falter every week on one of the FDs but that’s OK as it means 3 good FDs and one reduced calorie day every week.

Thanks for the link Purple, I’ll read it later when I have more time 🙂

I’m going to the supermarket in a minute in the hope of avoiding the BH weekend crush and then off to the gym.

Have a fab weekend everybody 😜

Well done, Amazon.
Have a good weekend folks. P ☺

Thanks Purple and RT. 😜😜😂😂

Well done, Amazon 🌺🌺🎉🎉

I’m having an indulgent time in Melbourne. The sun came out today.

Thanks for getting on the road so early, Nama, it was very good to see your slim happy self. 😏😏

Cheers, Bay 🌺🌺🍁🍁🍷🍷😏😏

hug mug, ha ha ha!

HUGE!!!!!

Bay you were well worth getting up early for, meeting people from this thread is always inspiring and fun. You look pretty slim and healthy yourself!! I am glad the sun came out for you today!
Well done Amazon – the end will be in sight soon! Enjoy hugging that mug and the tennis!
Have a lovely weekend all xx

Imagine how much the clothing companies are making from all these newly slim people? 😊

That’s the new slogan for a successful FD

“hug a mug today” 😉

I’ll be fine as there is tennis to watch and much to do at home. The first load of washing is blowing in the breeze, the next load is almost done and then there is some floor washing etc to be done. I am sooo lucky………

☕

Hi Fter
Yes hug it tight, Amazon.

A beautiful day here- nearly 30°. It seems that spring is coming!

Another good fast yesterday, 5 kilos down in 8 weeks. I chewed flax seeds (thanks Amazon for the tip) and took potassium(thanks Purple) and drank my 2 litres of water, and no dizziness.

Thanks for the link, Purple,
Hi Nama and Bay, great to hear echoes of the meet-up.
Barata, enjoy the weather!
Nicky, thanks for general encouragement, AO glad to see you posting. I hope the new job is settling down.
RT, always glad of the Friday laughs, and the Saturday to Thursday contribution in e e cummingsstyle.
HCB- good to hear you are into the fasting. Hope your back is feeling better today.
JoJo-missing you!!
Happy and Apricot- always enjoy your helpful comments.
Wee, so glad you call in for a chat every now and then
I hope I haven’t forgotten anyone.
Penti- where are you? Do we need to come to Faro to find you? I will be in the north of Portugal soon- at Porto
Samm- still missing you!

Now to a fast for Saturday and Sunday, followed by a few unavoidable up days. I find it is better to anticipate changes in régime to get the fasts in before the indulgences.
Only 5 kilos to lose until I can be on maintenance(two months I estimate to coincide with my two years on IF). Then the hard work will really begin.
Happy weekend
XX Wiwi

This thread is so harmonious today 😘
Pause here to think how far I am from my goal! I aiming to be 1 kilo bellow target just in case… In two weeks I’ll let you know.
Wiwi I want to believe I am feeling better with my back 🙏🏻. I heard Portugal has the most delicious fish restaurants in Europe. Portuguese it’s my mother language I would have a ball 😱.
Oh no! My eating brain it’s killing me. Paging RT – “it’s easier not to start eating than stop to once started”.
😂👍🙏

Wiwi and Amazon, 5 and 7kg respectively to goal. Excellent work! Maintenance proper here you come! Obviously it won’t be much different because you’ll still be doing the same, just a bit more relaxed… But it is kind of destination, even though the journey’s not over.. like just shunting backwards and forwards at the station…. Or see sawing in the park… One step forward one step back…

P,

How long will the burning continue? Do you see a rise in hospitalisations/ deaths from the air pollution during hazard reduction burns?

Hi H
The burning will continue until it rains. 😯
They warn people with ‘respiratory issues’ to stay inside, but with most Australian houses fairly unsealed, it is useless.
If you are a sinus person, like me (dad was a smoker), it is hell. Even up at our holiday place, overlooking the ocean, it is overwhelming. Mind you, great views of smoky mountains. 😆 P

Morning/evening all,

I am on a long railway journey with many stops and every so often I lose my sense of direction and return to somewhere I’ve been before and never enjoy it second time around! I am slowly getting closer to my destination. I am attempting to increase the speed now that the train is carrying less fuel but it is noving to it’s own rhythm and I must be patient and try to enjoy the remainder of the journey.

It’s a nice day here but I’ve not been out of the door as I’m baking a fruit cake for a friend who needs cheering up and due to medication cannot partake in a glass of fermented grape juice, so I’ll take it instead of a bottle when I visit her next week. It smells divine. Fortunately I’m not fasting today so am about to break my fast with a small portion of Bircher muesli.

I’m cooking the main course for dinner tonight and my friend is taking care of everything else. I am making chicken with tarragon in a sherry and sherry vinegar sauce which is absolutely delicious and really easy. To go with it I’m doing a baked dish of sliced potatoes with tomatoes and basil and some roasted asparagus.

Nama, I love the asparagus roasted especially on FDS when I don’t have the calories for melted butter 😉

Time to check on the cake, have a good one everybody and think of me trying to refrain from having a second helping of whatever wonderful dessert my friend is offering 😜

Hi there I’ve just joined this site on the strength of the posts I’ve read which seem to be intelligent analysis and very upbeat in nature which I like. Well done people for no woe is me sort of stuff!
I seem fairly similar to you guys in that I am in my 50’s and have a good 5 stone of fat to lose which just walloped itself on me as I went through the dreaded menopause about 8 years ago. Doctors were useless in simply advising me to cut calories even though I was not overeating. I believe the massive stress I was dealing with at the time resulted in massive cortisol overloading my metabolic system but anyway a really low 1000 calls a day simply resulted in total fatigue hair falling out and emotional wreck. Pretty much under active thyroid classic symptoms
Recently I have been reading lots of scientific research on ketogenic diets and it makes sense to me so would like to couple this to the 5:2 diet and see if it is possible to wedge myself back into a bikini (I live in Spain and it’s hot)! Without scaring small children I know this will take time but it is a good goal.
Thanks for the info and would be lovely to hear from anyone

Welcome to this international thread, Jelly, my Spanish is not too good, but Benvenido.
I live in France about 120 km north of Avignon.
Yes, it’s easier to live this WOL if you live without stress.

You should read Dr Jason Fung’s book “The Obesity Code” and there are links to his blogs on this thread (See Purple and Happy’s recent links). I guess you know Dr Michael Moseley’s books. These are essential reading.

There’s an incredible degree of common good sense on this thread, and we are happy to be part of this support group, on a day to day, and even hour to hour basis.

I have been in this Way of Living for nearly two years, and lost 27 kilos already (60lbs). I am mainly on Alternative Day Fasting or 4:3, depending on life. Recently, I have started doing these almost zero calorie fasts, like others on the thread. I couldn’t have done this at the beginning, but my head is in a good space now and I can.

Keep posting!
xx Wiwi

Hi there and thanks for your reply. Jason fung name has come up on the diet doctor website so I will be checking out your book recommendation. I am new to posting and a bit confused about how it all works so hope I don’t lose you if I jump to other threads. Is really nice to know so many people in the same boat weight wise. Obviously there are wall to wall gorgeous specimens every time I leave the house which can be a bit of a confidence cruncher but excited to read about people having such success at this way of eating
I hope to be posting some losses soon!

Hi all. Amazon I’d love to know how to do sherry sauce like that for chicken. Can you post it? Prudent use of sherry and its vinegar can be great, I think. Used to do a lovely recipe for scallops in a sherry sauce from Elizabeth David, but haven’t for years.

Thanks for that great summary, too. I’d endorse everything you say there, Amazon. I’m only three months in, have lost 18 lbs with plenty more to go. It’s not a doddle but it is a diet to settle into and mixes with other diets well, ketogenic or Mediterranean, vegetarian or whatever. Most diets seem to get harder as you go, this one generally gets easier, though sometimes we have bouts of losing focus etc, like any diet.

I was alarmed to read of the Australian controlled burning as at first glance I though it was a standard bush fire, but no. I remember the fire break burning when I was living in Zimbabwe, very worrying time as you hope the rain arrives at the right moment. Horrid wet burnt smell after. We don’t get fires like that much in the UK, though in the 70s/80s there were some nasty peat heathland fires, where the fire descended into the peat and started to smoulder there. They had to bulldoze the peat, destroying tracts of precious ecology, to stop it. I think in a few places it took nearly two years to eradicate.

Distracting myself from food a bit longer with a glass of lemon, cider vinegar and fizzy water garnished with cucumber and a chopped strawberry before doing some weeding. Happy day to you all! And goodnight those just going to bed!