Day 19 FD NZ
FD going well so far. Just had liquids and will eat a light meal tonight. @happymargo I’ve never done a b2b fast before but if I feel inspired in the morning when I get up for work at 4.30am I may give it a go. Will report later tomorrow on that. For some reason FD has been easy so far today, yet when I tried yesterday I caved in by m.tea time.I’m finding the scales debate and interesting one as my scales haven’t moved and I was getting despondent. Feel more encouraged now. Thanks.
P.S. And also would love to meet up with Cinque and Merry in June if our dates all work out!
Wow! I took a technology/internet free day yesterday and this thread has been a flurry of activity!!!
I’ve read through the top half of the page and wanted to comment before I forget! If I wait till I get to the bottom, this thought would have escaped me…
Merry, I live very close to the Gold Coast on the Tweed Coast or about half hour from Coolangatta. I’d love to meet up with you in February if possible. I start back at TAFE, so time is more limited, though maybe it can work?
Charlotterose, since you are on the Gold Coast too, maybe we three can get together in February, Merry and you and me?
Okay, back to reading posts!
I am working on creating a exercise routine everyday. The experts say it takes a while but eventually grows on you. I am betting more on that happy hormone and good sleep. My legs was the target today.
The weather was beautiful here. My stepdaughter took us for a short boat ride since her boat is at our dock we just couldn’t say no. Poor Sasha was terrorized again lol. She really doesn’t like that at all.
After we went our for lunch and a big salad with chicken was my pick.
I was so tired after I just took a nap … gut free 😌
Bay most Americans don’t know what an espresso is. Unless there’s a Starbucks in the area in which I care less about it they drink extremely large coffee, too hot sometimes too dark and bitter. 😤
My good coffee machine died off on me. I am thinking of getting a Nespresso one but just the thought of creating more garbage with those capsules bothers me.
Happy what HIIT program are you following? Is it from YouTube? I want to rotate my excersise every other week.
Looking forward to my 2FD17 tomorrow 😇
Have a good one Fasters 💋
Very diplomatic Merry thank you! Intesha, bring buckets of money if coming to Perth. Cinque, thanks for following up, sorry I should’ve posted the link when mentioning that interview with the rather dishy looking (for our vintage) Richard Glover.
Day after my FD, OH headed straight to the kitchen for his fry up (no, he doesn’t fast but he’s always starving the day after mine). I prepared a more modest breakfast but once I sat down to eat it, realised that I wasn’t hungry at all so went for a walk instead. Oh, the joy of 5:2.
@bert1802 – hang in there!!
Has anyone read the book “Buddha’s Diet” (by Tara Cottrell and Dan Zigmond)?
I’ve had a quick flick through it and looks pretty interesting (spoiler alert, it’s about only eating during a 9-hour window each day, so 15:9, but says some monk’s do 18:6, but feel 15:9 is more achievable for most… so, a book about 16:8 essentially).
…seems to cover a lot of good stuff, I think I might have to read it properly.
@fuvvie – we want to hear all about your evening! Keep us posted!
and adding @annemarilyn!!
back2thefuture (with well-aligned stars!) 😀
Laddie10 — YES I AM IN!
I am on a FD today but I am going to try and hang with you all until Friday around dinner time? That would actually be a 3 day fast…ummmm…not really sure about this but HERE GOES! I am just finishing 24 now with about 400 calories. I don’t plan on doing all fluids but at the max I will come in around 400 or so on Thur and then since I am finishing up on Friday at dinner I will try to avoid anything until a meal in the evening. Regardless, if I go 3 days on 300-400 calories per day I am thinking that will be HUGE!
Is this the final list? As noted above?
Let’s do this thing!!!!
Feedback from the BSD website. I thought it would be full of people with diabetes or pre-diabetes, but it mainly seems to be people wanting to lose weight quickly. Most of the posts I saw are about falling off the diet and trying to get back on.
Quite frankly, I feel someone should be pointing them over here to a long term sustainable way of eating.
Horrible irritable Cinque 😉
Still Day 18
Happy Margo I’m adding my name to list of potential B2B folks for Thurs/Fri. I’m for sure Thurs & hope to continue Friday. Am starting some new part-time teaching Thur evening so I’ll see on the energy on Friday morning.
back2thefuture (with well-aligned stars!) 😀
Laddie10 (if you decide yes)
2nd post – Day 19
@lilymartin – oh migraines, I have just realised this is the first time I’ve done any diet adjustment that didn’t result in migraines. Every time I’ve previously done any sort of calorie restrictions, followed a whacky formula (I think there was an apple a cheese diet back in the day), used supplements, etc, I’ve always ended up with migraines. But, not this time, hmmm, another plus for the 5:2 IF WOL for me. I hope your liquid day goes well without a migraine in sight. Take care.
@bert1802 – I don’t think mother nature hates you, but she’s obviously trying to send you a message, stay strong, you can do this.
Oh Merry you make me smile. What do you think of that cookbook, some really great recipes!!!
I’m up for travelling anywhere for a 5:2 meet. I will be in Melbourne again in July but I have never been to WA. Will be in Canberra next week from Friday to Monday.
I’ve dropped my granddaughter home, and am now waiting for my young friend to arrive, but instead of tidying up (how did the house get so messy?), or getting the sushi prepared, I am having some quiet time, reading and writing!
I found that interview with Dr Mosley online http://www.abc.net.au/radio/sydney/programs/drive/michael-mosley/8026978 and listened to it. I agree, Thin. He was talking about the 8 week diet and saying that it was extreme but that is ok. But I am also pretty sure he said (in that interview or in this one, that I also listened to: http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/nightlife/literary-event-with-dr-michael-mosley/7695076 ) that 5:2 is what you go to after the 8 week extreme thing, and also to keep to the Mediterranean diet.
So,in theory, we should be getting people here who have done the BSD and are moving onto 5:2. But maybe they stay on the BSD website: https://thebloodsugardiet.com/
…Which I just found and see he says
“Once you reach your goal, feel better and stay healthy
Live the BSD lifestyle, sticking to a low carb Med style way of eating, with intermittent fasting as needed.”
I might sneak a look at the forums there….
If Ive caught all the posts the jar is now standing at 65.5 pebbles, although Ive not included the weigh ins from Gotto (3) and Cookies (8) because I dont know if you are joining in Jump Start January (JSJ).
I didnt manage a FD today, but it wasnt too bad in the end. I’ll have another go tomorrow ahead of weigh in on Friday morning!
House almost sorted out and everything unpacked, so just tinkering with things and attacking the stuff in the garage now.
Whos fasting with me?
Day 18….Florida….. NFD
Screw my whole FD today so, it’s a NFD
So, changing my days around.
Haven’t gotten a chance to read all the posts
Mother Nature hates me
I don’t think the new girl is going to make it.
I’m tired and I think I’m trying to get sick
It’s only Wed. and I feel like it should be Fri already.
Well that’s my quick update for the day!
Thin – interesting!
Quick answers –
Charlotte – well done!
Vaderz – 25kgs down and cooking! 59 kgs!!! You’d have to be pretty short and slight framed.
Cinque – blush away, it’s true🙂
Intesha – that makes 3 votes so must be true! Still coveting those tights/trousers of yours but they look divine on you and on me they wouldn’t. That’s how you got be glamorous, and it’s not just what you put on your legs. You do that thing all over!
Thin- relax, you aren’t that bad, you are that good! You give us a reality check like no-one else can because you can put it into words that gets it just right. And we need that. That’s one of the reasons you are Officially Precious! (If I tried to do that it would end up like hitting someone with a sledge hammer)
LJ – recently I was in Los Angeles and I felt like a giant – gazillions of people, male, female, young, old, all shorter than you. It’s all relative. And you may not be Officially the Shortest person on here. I hope that knee op helps too.
Intesha – I had 1 of those days yesterday too, combination of many influences! FD today.
Bought the Womens Weekly 2day Superdiet cookbook (5:2 when they don’t want to say 5:2), reduced to $24.50 at DJ’s.
Cheers to the Thursday Fasters,
Onwards and Downwards,
@happymargo – thanks for reminding me about sparkling water! Always forgetting that on, don’t know why… it’s a great thirst quencher and a hunger distraction.
Day 19 FD overcast country West Australia
Wow! Some great successes on this forum.
@lew great ‘big girl’s pants’ story! Congratulations!
Also congrats to all the other ‘losers!!’
Static at 74.4 kg but so pleased that it is not more after 4 weeks of family, friends and food.
It’s interesting that so much in life revolves around food.
As a child food was simply for nourishment – we helped prepare food, we ate, we cleared and washed up, end of food focus.
Nowadays food is everywhere , in the shopping centres, at celebrations, at commiserations etc and the amount of TV Shows about food, well…..
Also the magazines in the newsagents. Had to kill a bit of time waiting for DH in shopping centre a few days ago and my digestive juices were revved up just looking at all the mags about food or which had food on the cover.
As previously mentioned, I succumbed and bought a 5:2 recipe book!
Plan to start using it tomorrow after a BIG day 10 hours at work today.
@arvandee, thanks for response. Like you I find that I prefer to ‘spread the love /calories!’ on my FDs and try to eek out 3 tiny meals. Better for my BSLs I think.
The problem is, that first mouthful of food gets the insulin going and then the hunger drive starts.
Today, trying to do liquid only but will see. I don’t want to end up with another migraine.
Crazy day, busy from dawn and not over yet (7 pm my time) —
Day 18, Non-fast day. Got below 160 yesterday for the first time in for-EVER (159.4) and was so pleased. back up over 160 today (160.6), but I am sure that getting below 160 and staying there is in my future. 🙂 So I’m actually not depressed. Feeling strong.
Pissupoosa– thank you for the reminder of bone broth!
Mine is frozen solid. Taking it out to thaw & be ready for next 2 days. I’m hoping to do the b2b with plain coffee, herbal teas, sparkling fizzy water & bone broth. For some reason, I can have a steaming mug of homemade bone broth & it feels hearty. Filling as if I’ve had a meal. It’s a fantastic “secret weapon”
I’ll definitely be adding you all to my pocket list… it’s what made my very first b2b possible!
Any others up for Thursday-Friday back-to-back Fast Days this week? Just add your name to the list.
back2thefuture (with well-aligned stars!) 😀
Laddie10 (if you decide yes)
Join in & know you’ve got support here!
It is not surprising that kefir has helped Mr. P. Science now accepts that most food ‘intolerances’ are caused by FODMAPS in the food. Some individuals can’t digest (tolerate) some FODMAPS very well. Wheat and lactose contain a lot of FODMAPS. But people are not intolerant of all FODMAPS – they may have trouble with wheat and other grains, but not onions or watermelon. People with food intolerances are now finding relief by identifying the FODMAPS they are sensitive to and cutting them from their diets.
But changing their gut bacteria can also allow them to digest FODMAPS they could not digest before as a result of introducing bacteria strains able to handle the guilty FODMAPs in question. Kefir is a source of many bacteria not all people have in their bodies. I suspect eating kefir (and other probiotic foods) could help many people with food intolerances improve or get rid of the intolerances entirely.
This is the second ‘probiotic’ wave I’ve lived through. The first was in the mid-1980s. Hopefully this time science has the right tools to allow it to reach what may be some very beneficial and exciting findings. And convert a ‘fad’ into an accepted dietary practice capable of helping many, many ‘food intolerant’ people.
Day 19 – Perth, W.Aust – FD
Just another day in paradise.
Stay strong everyone and be kind to yourself.
Hi I’m planning a fast tomorrow and depending how it goes I’ll maybe extend so count me in.
@Ciren I agree with Fuvvie. You need to write in big letters ‘the number on the scale does not define me’! If you feel that anxious about it – don’t do it. Learn how to trust how you look, how you feel, how your clothes feel rather than a number – which may or may not be telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Oh dear Merry, am I really that bad? I’ll have to try to model my posts more on Cinque’s. Have a lovely GD day today Cinque (that’s grand daughter day).
CR, as mentioned in my previous post, yes, you can have celery or anything you want on a FD. But you do have to count every single thing that passes your lips – that includes whatever you used to fry the egg. Well done with the first kg gone.
Vaderz, you can do it. I think it was LJ who’s recently told us that she’s now half her worst weight. We all wish we’d known of this decades ago but we’re here now. Don’t worry about the past, this is the beginning of the new healthier you and we all want you to succeed. A downward trend is all you need IMHO.
Lael sent me a link to a recent Sydney Drive interview with Dr M. dispelling myths surrounding topics such as low fat foods, rate of weight loss and artificial sweeteners. In it, he said that it’s a myth that weight loss should occur at a slow rate (which was something I’d always believed unless the patient was at risk of imminent death or disease from morbid obesity).
However, the justification didn’t seem to have much physiological basis wrt long-term IF, more that people would simply give up if they didn’t see a rapid loss. I get that vibe from many newbies but I do believe maintenance 5:2 is essentially the same as weight loss 5:2 so there’s no hurry to get here.
Although he still practices a modified form of 6:1 himself, I get the sense that, Dr M. has moved on from Fast Diet and is now focussing more on his Blood Sugar Diet, promoting a more rapid weight loss to reverse the effects of diabetes thus preventing the need for medication and subsequent insulin dependency. This is great for pre-diabetics but like so many ‘diets’, that 8 week diet offers no maintenance plan. What happens once they’ve lost all that weight? As someone who’s lost a significant amount of weight twice before I found 5:2, I see a flaw in that type of weight loss. And I know of several people diagnosed with diabetes who got terrified, lost a lot of weight and have now gained it all back and more. Discussion?
One other interesting aspect that Dr M. mentioned is that there is no nutrition education provided in medical school.
@happymargo – I’m up for Thursday-Friday b2b (totally need the support right now!)
I was planning on a FD tomorrow anyway – got my bone broth defrosting ready to take on the FD 🙂
@Laddie and @B2TF are you joining also? Wasn’t sure if I should start a pocket list…
Had a very good FD today. I managed to resist free food at a conference today!! And ended up having only 389 for my dinner and a cup of tea with milk so very happy! I am hoping I will see some results when I get on the scales!
It’s so good to come onto here and read th posts. Good distraction from eating during the day and feeling like I’m not alone in this. My sister is impressed and she really wants to try this WOL. I am of course telling her everything I can and listing The endless positive benefits of this diet. 🙂
Night all x
Hi, Laddie & B2tF — Yup, I’m planning a liquid FD tomorrow (Thursday) and would love to roll-on with it into Friday for a b2b… If the stars align, as B2tF says. 😀
Any others up for Thursday-Friday back-to-back Fast Days this week?
Join in & know you’ve got support here!
Honestly, I couldn’t imagine being able to go 48 hours, until the November Challenge I joined the big B2B group… and DID IT! Every time I wavered, I simply logged in & read forum posts for strength.
That first successful time was SO empowering!
Two well known causes of quick weight gain are over exercising and eating carbs, especially processed carbs. Exercise damages the muscles and the body retains water to help in muscle repair. Refined carbs spike blood sugar, the excess of which is converted to glycogen. But glycogen requires 3 to 4 times its weight in water for storage. This overeating of carbs is one of the main causes of weight gain after a holiday or free eating weekend. The water weight goes away when the carb intake is cut, stored glycogen is used and the accompanying water (and water weight) is released. From an exercise point of view, some people start exercising more and then eat/drink quick energy drinks or food (sugar). But the exercise calories used do not come close to covering the excess sugar calories being consumed and thus the build up of glycogen.
And you still did not take into account your genes, which may cause you to only use 50 to 75% of the calories you think you are using by exercising.
While I suspect your quick weight gain is largely due to water weight, I still think you might be eating more than you need to eat. You will have to play around with your diet to find out ‘what works for you’.
Just to let you know I’m still alive. Fat, but alive. I’ve had limited WiFi access in the depths of France. Food has not been good at all. Weigh in will not be pretty. Next week I can rectify all that though but it won’t stop me fasting on Friday when I’m back.
@happymargo – I think I missed your message regarding a FD tomorrow -Thursday. I’m in! Was this a B2B you were doing or…?
Bonjour les amis,
DEPUIS 18 jours je pratique Jeun intermittent 16: 8 Qui me Convient beaucoup mieux.
Only voiture 500 Calories l’hiver trop dur pour moi.
Le week – end J’arrive TENIR 40 Heures de sans me nourrir je bois beaucoup du thé des infusions de thym romarin, camomille, tilleul menthe.
Je Trouve , plus facile.
ESSAYEZ et moi Donnez Votre avis
Hemmy, LOL, if you ever have trouble sleeping then you will know where to find it xx
Bonjour les amis,
Depuis 18 jours je pratique Jeun intermittent 16:8 qui me convient beaucoup mieux.
Car seulement 500 Calories l’hiver trop dur pour moi.
Le week end j’arrive a tenir 40 heures sans manger je bois beaucoup du thé des infusions thym romarin, camomille, tilleul menthe.
Je trouve cela plus facile.
Essayez et donnez moi votre avis
Hi Vaderz, thanks for that explanation, I had no idea how scales could measure fat!
So glad you are here! What a relief to be nicely below your heaviest weight, and to have even healthier weight in your sights! Small steps! We will all be cheering when you get to 110!
Congratulations CharlotteRose! And what a yummy breakfast!
I had vegemite on toast, shared with my granddaughter, which means I got all the crusty bits (my favourite!). I put a lot of cornmeal in this loaf. It is harder and denser, but very tasty!
We have already been to the park.
I love the day after fast day!
Merry! Oh dear, blushing! About the Ozzie Op Shopper of the Year, of course 😉
LJoyce those leg operations must be hard, especially when you were so young. Well, not sure how the next one could give you an inch or two, but I hope it does!
You deserve those compliments Intesha! Including the glamour one!
I hope you enjoyed the chocolates, and the have a great fast day today!
Got to go!
Best wishes all
from the secretly horrible Cinque
London | Day 18 | NFD
Day 17 – also NFD in the end.
Tomorrow – FD planned.
There’s many more bacteria in the kefir. I find the taste and consistency varies widely, depending on the milk brand (always full cream) that I use.
We’ll be in Asia next time, so highly unlikely to get. P
Day 19 NZ FD
Will check in properly later
They say parience is a virtue hermaj! 😊
Purple, depending on where you’re travelling to accessing kefir may not be too difficult. I found it readily available in Canada and I would expect it to be available in Europe. Were you able to get it in UK when you were there?
I didn’t know you could get a powdered form, not that it sounds like it tasted very good.
I’m ‘ addicted the the stuff now – love it! My DIL is on a weight loss program and I convinced her to try some when she was in Adelaide with us but she didn’t like it. I’ll mention Mr P’s lactose and gluten intolerances as there are plenty of those in her family and she may be willing to try it again. DIL had some probiotic yoghurt in the fridge which I tried yesterday but nowhere near as nice tasting as the kefir.
yes I’ll try to keep posting here on my progress, or lack of see how things go.
I may be a bit of an odd ball but I try not to let the kidney disease rule my life. I still do everything I used to (kitesurfing, hiking, fishing etc.) and more, just started the climbing as some real exercise that I can do indoors no matter the weather and it’s only a couple of hours of my time. I can do it one evening a week which works well with the little’un and everything. That said I do try and mange things. Potassium intake and other obvious things like alcohol etc.
Some of my thoughts on things so far.
Blood pressure is a big one. Do what you can for yourself and to help your consultant. I have a little BP monitor and regularly record my BP between treatments. It helps a lot because every time I see my consultant my BP is high. White coat fever I guess. But with my monitoring it really helps them and does give you some confidence etc. Although it takes some getting used to how it can fluctuate a bit over a day. Plus with the home monitors its worth taking 3 readings a few minutes apart at times to get more confidence in the results its giving you.
I’m lucky in that I have no troubles with phosphates, calcium and the other electrolytes. That’s got my consultant scratching his head a bit. But I do try and limit my dairy. Although I have a soft spot for cheese, so I’ll have to watch that as its packed with salt and it does no good for my cholesterol levels.
Symptoms. Not many if I’m honest other than some side effects from the medication. Some itching sometimes and that’s pretty much it! That said last November I had been struggling with swollen ankles (Fluid). I had been on a pretty hefty daily dose of Amlodipine at that time along with other BP medication. I’m currently reviewing that with my Doctor and consultant. I’ve stopped the Amlodipine and sticking with the other medication only. So far BP hasn’t been too bad. I always suspected that it didn’t do much. That said if I can get it even lower naturally that’ll be great. Ankle swelling is much reduced now. How much of that is due to stopping that medication and how much is due to other factors is a bit of a mystery. I also suspect that another side effect of the Amplodipine has been shortness of breath, almost like Asthma. I’ve been doing a little bit of jogging 3 times a week and its been a real struggle. Stopped the Amplodipine and ran 2 miles yesterday with little trouble. Worth noting that was on a fasting day too I guess. Stamina is lower than it used to be but how much of that is down to age, the kidney condition and my lower fitness levels these days is difficult to measure.
Otherwise I’ve been ok. Had a couple of flat days where I’ve felt pretty flat borderline ill / nausiated. A brisk walk or even something more strenuous and the turn round is miraculous. Night and day within minutes. Otherwise I’m never really ill which is a good an bad thing. Bad in that I never used to see the Doctor. Never had to really. Perhaps if I had my condition would have been picked up earlier. Although I did get fobbed off once with “eat healthier” Hmm. Lastly I take a Garlic tablet every morning. No idea if it helps with colds or anything but both the missus and the little one have been knocked to high hell with a cold and I’ve been untouched.
Back to the diet. When I was diagnosed I was given a body scan. Years of Rugby and weight training has left me a little heavier set than the average person so they sent me for a body scan to measure my body composition. When they measure eGFR it is based on an average person. Those with higher muscle mass will get lower results than their actual function due to the higher creatinine levels in he blood from the higher muscle mass. Thankfully my body composition was goo but didn’t result in a significant correction in eGFR readings. (Bum) but it did stick two fingers up at the whole BMI thing. So my plan is to get back to that level and more if I can. I want to get lean and as fit as possible within the time I can exercise. So diet will be a big thing. It obviously needs to be a diet that is easy for me to follow within the family group, with work, can be low potassium and of course does not put any undue pressure on my kidneys, such as the Atkins diet would do.
Good luck and monitor that BP is the biggest advice I can give. Try to learn how your body reacts to things. For example me and alcohol do not mix at all (Bum but I dont sleep after the stuff and spend all night in the loo) plus its not good for me. I dont think I’m overly salt sensitive but the smaller the amount the better.
Most of the energy one expends is done by the brain. If you could get your brain to work harder – that would be something. It’s not the case though, that all smart people are thin 🙁
Day 19 Sunshine Coast Qld Australia NFD: 106.4 kgs.
Welcome Tallula. You’ve come in with the right attitude for getting to your goals. All the best. You’ll get heaps of support here.
Well done, Rocy65. Sounds absolutely wonderful with beautiful descriptions of your ride. I can almost see it. Would love to physically see it. May yet do that later this year. Who knows.
Ciren2, why should it shatter your confidence? Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy. The scales aren’t the be all and end all. If they are down, great! But if not, it’s just part of the journey. You are not defined by the scales. Think about how great you’ve felt on and after your fast days. Pat yourself on the back and keep up the good vibes. You have come so far and don’t need to lose confidence over a number on the scales. You are a legend and a winner.
To all those using CD, I am entering it on the spreadsheet.
I am going to a happy hour and meeting a whole lot of people for the first time tonight. It came about that I was trying on an outfit in Myer when I mentioned to the sales assistant that I had lost 17 kgs, when the person in the next cubicle called out that she would like to know how that was achieved. We met at the counter whilst paying for our purchases, and when she said that she lived at Flaxton, I piped up that I lived in Dulong, about 5kms away. This led to that and she invited me to join PROBUS, which is a retired persons social group on the range where I live. So I am going. Feel a bit nervous about it, but it would be good to get to know a few more people in the neighbourhood. When working full time and driving kids around etc, one doesn’t have the opportunity to make new friends. OH doesn’t feel the need to have other people around. But he is away a lot. So here goes.
Hoping you get better sleeps soon, B2tf. I envy your being so close to goal but don’t envy the BPPV. So one can’t have everything. Going to hit submit before I lose everything.lol
Day 18 : Cheshire, UK : NFD
Yesterday, I decided that I would focus on LCHF diet on my NFD (control days) because I don’t seem to have the willpower to resist chocolate, crisps, potatoes and other carbs. It’s undoing the success of my liquid fast days, which I seem to be able to do now.
I’m a bit worried though because MFP says if I continue I will put on weight in 5 weeks. I did go over my TDEE a little today but only ate 26g of carbs out of my 30g allowance. I had blackberries and double cream as a treat which may happen a couple of times a week. Tomorrow I intend to do a liquid fast.
I’ve been on the Diet Doctor site but any other guidance or experiences would be gratefully received 🙂
Sarah .. thank you for that post. Very interesting. Xx
You have pointed out some very good tips/ guidelines there. Going to keep that post in my favourite’s. Xx
Tammy, I am sure you will come to the right decision for you. Night night x
We do the same but no milk. Vanilla instead….and a dash of Kahlua occasionally! !😁😁
Hi Sarah thanks for that, food for thought (pardon the pun), I will have to have a think at what I am going to do, feel like I am getting out of control on my nfd’s, I know I am doing it but can’t seem to stop, I think fast days work because it’s a competition with myself and I will win !!, which is why I was asking vi about her fast days, maybe I am best to just not start eating and it will counter when I do, will have a good think and see what happens. Thanks everyone for your advice.
O, no. You’re human like the rest of us. 😉😉😉
I learnt to make or ask for ice coffee the American way. A shot of espresso poured over lots of ice cubes. Then add either chilled water or milk. Very refreshing. No sugar, no cream and no Ice cream. I make espresso with decaf coffee these days.
Nama, I also make porridge with rolled oats in water. No salt. It’s lovely with berries. 🍓🍓🍓
Cheers on a lovely cool post fast day. Bay 🌺🌺🌺