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  • Hi wicken,

    The Dolmio carbonara sauce sounds promising. If you were really, really hungry on your fast day and consumed the whole pack of noodles, it would still only cost you 8 calories.

    I’m surprised at Paxo, I thought he had more sense. Cheeky monkey! We should all dress up as Hell’s Grannies – remember the Monty Python sketch where they all dressed up as sweet little old ladies and rode around on motor bikes knocking seven bells out of young hard cases in leather jackets – and go and sort him out. 🙂

    Another ex-teacher, I see. Me too, but I only lasted five years. I didn’t like being an authority figure and I’m too much of an iconoclast to be in the position of guiding the young.

    After taking a modern languages degree as a mature student, I did a PGCE, during which I had two lovely teaching practices at a nearby single-sex comprehensive, one of those which had maintained its academic tradition and was a joy to work in, in terms of both colleagues and kids.

    Sadly there were no vacancies and I wound up at a not-so-great comp equidistant between Spurs and Arsenal where I attempted to teach French and Spanish to off-duty football hooligans, most of whom were naughty but nice and could be unexpectedly kind, but there was a hard core of psychopaths. Worst of all, the head was constantly on my case and I was perpetually being accused of doing things or allowing things to happen which had absolutely nothing to do with me, e.g. allowing kids to carve initials (and worse!) on desks in a room I had never used, and failing to attend a staff meeting at I was sitting right under his nose in the front row. Didn’t stop the nasty litle man pinching my bum when I returned to the school for a social event after I left, though.

    I then moved into the private sector, to a very prestigious girls’ school, feeling somewhat uneasy as I’m politically left-leaning, but at last I was able to do the job the I was trained to do, namely teach, rather than trying to stop 12-year-olds climbing out of classroom windows. I thought I’d died and gone to heaven. The job was a promotion – teacher wih responsibility for Spanish, also teaching beginners’ Latin, and later 1st to 3rd year French. The kids were a pleasure to teach, the staff were kind and supportive, and the head, a delightful, youngish lady, actually liked me. I would have stayed but the urge to try my hand at the job I’ve had for nearly 25 years – freelance translating – was too strong.

    BTW, I’m curious about your nom de plume. Can you explain?

    The nom de plume was simply that I don’t have an over active brain for thinking up good names. Wicken Green is the name of the Village in Norfolk where we used to live.
    We now live in Surrey in what used to be Sheltered Housing but isn’t any longer. ( Loooong story there!) We moved here after my husband had prostate cancer and thankfully survived. We were in the sticks, 8 miles from anywhere.It seemed sensible to move closer to our daughter. We are now only a 20 min drive away from daughter and 14 year old grand daughter.
    I havn’t given up being stroppy. Maybe it’s what keeps me ‘young at heart’.
    There are some very vulnerable tenants living here. More or less abandoned as there is now no Warden. Myself and my friend have specialised during the last year in campaigning to get positive help for those who need it. It’s slowly having some effect. Sometimes I wonder whether I’ll ever be anything else but a professional boat rocker!
    After I was given early retirement from teaching due to back problems, I worked in a branch of the probation Service. That was an eye opener in all sorts of ways. Quite funny in the difference from teaching! They don’t really like plain speaking as we do/did in the Teaching Profession though I hear that’s all changed now.Political Correctness!
    I used to visit the Police Station every day in connection with my work and they often needed the services of Translators.
    I could write a few chapters about teaching; the probation Service and the huge differences in approach. Also the differing attitudes of Custody Sergeants!
    By the way, how do you put smilies in the texts?
    My experience was in Infant/Nursery education. I taught for a while in the Private Sector. I found the pupils there were spoiled rotten with no manners. When I moved to a school in a very socially deprived area, the children were
    very poor and deprived but had good manners!
    Anyway, I’ve planned out tomorrows menu so fingers crossed!
    What about your nom de plume?
    Which languages do you translate?

    Hi Femme
    Yippity yip yip! I passed my grading. I’m now a fully fledged 4th dan. Thanks for remembering and taking the time to enquire. It’s appreciated 🙂

    My baby grandson is due in the middle of December. My daughter is looking well but beginning to feel those niggling discomforts of 30 weeks and beyond especially the pressure on her bladder and the busy feet of a footballer in training!

    I’m heading home tomorrow after a lovely fortnight staying with her and my son-in-law. It’s a wrench to leave and I know she’ll be a bit down too but I’ll be back early next month for a marathon cook-in to fill up her freezer with home cooked ‘ready meals’ for when our little babe arrives. These are happy times. 🙂

    Lizzypb

    Another vote for the King James Bible, which is surely one if the definitive works in the modern English language. I’ve got it on Kindle.

    Congratulations Lizzypopbottle.
    Our 14 year old grand daughter is a Junior 1st Danblackbelt.
    You will have such a wonderful Christmas with the best present ever. Your little grandson. Even happier times ahead.
    How do you put smilies on? Please tell this technology ignorant person!
    Congratulations again.
    Have you heard of the Annabel Karmel recipes? All natural food. Our daughter used to make little portions and freeze them for the days when someone else was helping out.
    http://www.annabelkarmel.com/recipes

    Dear Ali:

    You can do it!
    I can do it!
    We can do it!

    Thank you for your lovely words 🙂 🙂
    xxxxx

    Congratulations Lizzypopbottle. A great achievement. Will you be continuing to 5th dan and beyond?

    Hi wicken,

    Glad to see you’re another stroppy person. Stroppy is my middle name. 🙂

    Are you East Anglian by any chance? My OH is a Suffolk boy.

    I mustn’t ramble on today, I’ve got a job to do. Speaking of which, there is some confusion between translator and interpreter. The people called in by the police, the Probation Service, the military, etc. to translate verbally are interpreters. I tried it once or twice, but I was rubbish. Everything I do is written, e.g. today I have an article about a Scandinavian illustrator which I must translate from German into Engish. I work from Spanish, French, German and occasionally Portuguese into English. It is considered very naughty and unprofession to work into anything but your mother tongue. Most of what I do is for publication or broadcast so it has to be good and read as though it had been written in English. I specialise in Arts and Media, which explains why the MA I’ve just completed in in History of Art

    My handle: while living in Switzerland I used to teach English as a foreign language to children from Zurich’s large Japanese community, usually one-to-one. My two favourites were a beautiful little six-year-old named Tomomi and a delightful, funny and very clever 12-year-old named Maiko, who spoke nearly perfect English with a London accent, having attended the local primary when her dad was posted to London. Her classes were more about creative writing. She loved Roald Dahl, whom she described as ‘a nutter’.

    On our return to the UK we acquired twin female kittens, whom we named after the Japanese girls. Maiko made it to age 15, Tomomi survived her by six years. In her latter years, having been mad, bad and dangerous to know in her youth, she spent her days sitting quietly, looking queenly and wise, hence Hermajtomomi.

    Smily = colon and right-hand bracket 🙂
    Sad face = colon and left-hand bracket 🙁 . Make sure not to place commas or full stops immediately next to then or they won’t come out.
    There are lots more, but hopefully someone can enlighten us both.

    Rigpig

    Which King James version have you got on your Kindle?
    Some of the reviews say some versions are not easy to find the way around, i.e. not well annotated.
    I’d appreciate your feedback before I splash out.
    Thanks

    Hi iouabook,

    That’s just what I needed a bit of encouragement. I did well to get just below my initial target before my all inclusive holiday, then had OFSTED (school inspectors) in, and had a family celebration for my dad’s 90th birthday. So I must now get going again, I’ve put on 3.5lbs. I will plan my meals for tomorrow and then fast on Tuesday and Thursday, I’ll do a 16:8 fast and eat my meals within 8 hours. Suits me fine as I do yoga those nights, so eating a “main meal” at midday will be better for me.

    Onward and downward
    Ali x

    No. We only moved to Norfolk after my husband had been made redundant. Anyone who thinks ageism doesn’t exist in the job market is incorrect. He was only in mid fifties then but no-one wanted to know.
    After we moved to Norfolk, which is such a beautiful place, he got a job which he loved and did for the next 8 years til he got cancer. When he recovered he went back as a Volunteer.

    Had the zero noodles with half a dolmio small sauce mix , 45 calories and a kiwi chopped into it. 59 calories in total.
    Raisins make a good inbetween snack. A small amount is not very many calories.

    Hi wicken,

    I can well believe your husband had to deal with ageism. How daft can employers be? Things have changed and so have people. Someone in his or her 50s is likely to be as on-the-ball as a considerably younger colleague or competitor – not to mention having much greater experience. My OH had the same problem at 44 after returning from Switzerland where a job with a former colleague went pear-shaped. A science graduate with years of sales and then management experience with a major oil company, the only firm offer of a job was managing an off-licence. Fortunately, he had IT skills so he set up on his own.

    Why do you think I keep very quiet about my age, professionally? I work on the fringes of the media where ageism is rife. As things stand, if I have the extremely rare off-day, the reaction is ‘Hermaj was a bit under par today. Never mind’. Were they to know how ancient I am, the off-day would be interpreted as ‘Poor old Hermaj is losing it, let’s put the poor old thing out to grass’.

    Having said that, ours is a not a young profession. People carry on successfully working into their 70s, 80s and beyond, in perfect harmony with younger colleagues – quite often a big project is co-translated by a team. One much loved and respected colleague won two major international translation awards, one for fiction one for non-fiction, at the age of 88. He continued to work until days before he died in his mid-90s.

    I have to say I didn’t really hit my stride until 60. I had always been competent, but suddenly I was good and much sought-after. Despite this, I was once told – by a man who knew nothing about me or the sort of work translators do – that I should accept, at age 63, that my best work was probably behind me. I didn’t bother to delete the expletive!

    Hi wicken
    Thanks for the congrats on both bits of good news 🙂 as for the smilies, colon and right bracket ) gives you this 🙂 the opposite bracket should give a sad face. Colon and capital d should give a big grin. Semi colon and ) should give a wink I’ll try them here:
    🙂 🙁 😀 😉 I’ll look silly if these don’t work but they only change from punctuation marks to smilies when you hit send.

    Hermaj – thanks for the congrats. In our karate organisation (KUGB Karate Union of Great Britain) you have to train for several years between gradings. It’s 5 or 6 years before I can go for 5th dan. Right now I’m thrilled to have achieved 4th dan but in the words of the Terminator, “I’ll be back!” 🙂

    Lizzypb
    PS if you’re on Facebook you can see my pic on the KUGB FB page. There are only two women and I’m on the right.

    Forgot to say to look for the report about the special dan grading in Bath last Saturday 4th Oct.

    Hi again wicken
    I’ll pass that info and link to Annabel Karmel baby meals on to my daughter. Thanks
    Lizzypb

    One more time 🙂 on the KUGB FB page look for the picture of successful Yondan grading. That’s 4th dan. And Hermaj, I’m sure you’ll notice there’s no age bar in karate!

    Hi all, I’ve just finished my first week on 5:2 and have lost 3.4kg !!!!!
    Wowee I’m actually crying tears of joy and relief. Finally I have found something I can do, it works, it’s easy and it’s sustainable.Hope is restored. I am free of those feelings of hopelessness and uselessness. I CAN lose weight and I HAVE.There’s nothing wrong with me.
    I did find second fast day a little challenging because I was home all day doing nothing and just wanted to eat. So I’ll learn from that and plan not to do that again.It’s great being in control !!
    I have roughly 35kg to lose, started at 105k and 56 yrs old.Will take other measurements this week and keep track of those.
    The forum has been inspirational reading about peoples successes and difficulties.
    So here’s to another week .Hope you find my post encouraging.

    Good morning Ladies of a Certain Age

    It’s been a long time since I posted here. Great to read all your successes and welcome to the more recent recruits.

    Lizzy, congrats on your exalted karate status. When younger I was a judoka but life circumstances (moving to remote Australian places) meant OH and I only practised together (I met him at judo).

    After a social long weekend I’m fasting today (usually do b2b Monday-Tuesday). I work Mon-Wed and do a heavy session of weight training on Wednesdays after work. Having tried for several weeks, concluded fasting and weights don’t mix because I get very tired on FDs. Similarly, not disciplined enough to fast at home with skinny OH there so just going with the flow and fasting 1 day this week.

    Interesting to read of ageism experiences – my OH was part of a purge of over 55s when his company was taken over. Because he is well-known in his profession he kept going for a few years with consulting until offered another post.
    One of the other victims took legal action and won compensation but unfortunately, in the process he acquired the ‘troublemaker’ reputation which really screwed up his job prospects. Damned if he did and damned if he didn’t!

    At 68 I’m lucky to have a job which is fulfilling and will stop when it stops being that. Fortunately my boss is keen to keep me on and continues to offer challenges and variety, as well as leaving me to get on with things. So lucky!!!

    On the topic of emoticons, does anyone know how to make the animated smiley, which I have seen on these threads?

    Happy Tuesday all.

    There’s an animated smiley?!

    colon lol colon 😆 no spaces between characters

    Just testing. Sorry to make you my guinea pigs 😀

    I shall have to write these down some where. At my advanced age I cannot remember them!! 🙂 😀

    smile 🙂 lol 😆 wink 😉

    Would someone like to do us all a favour and make a little list?
    I love the animated one but havn’t grasped how to do it! 🙁

    It is : followed by lol and another : with no spaces 😆 and if that doesn’t work for you I don’t know why.

    Thanks Amazon, you’ve made my day! 😆

    When I go on about ‘advanced age’ I’m just being ironic,
    What I find offensive, and it happens quite a lot in many different ways, is when an attitude is taken that, because bits of ones body don’t work well, ones brain doesn’t either.
    Recently in our Parish Newsletter there was a bit about the diocese setting up Pastoral Care Groups. There were groups for the sick, the mentally ill, and ‘The Elderly!!) Why do the elderly need to be put in a Group? We are no different from others. The Parish was setting up a Bereavement Group. As, in the past, I did some training with Cruse, and did some Volunteer Visiting at a Hospice, I asked our PP whether there was an upper age .limit for the Group. His reply was that he thought I’d answered my own question. I find it sad that Parishes are Ageist. Maybe it’s just me being stroppy. I’d sooner be called a ‘stroppy old so and so’ than an old one!
    Not long ago we were coming back from town on a bus which had very many students from the local Comprehensive on it. They were behaving appallingly. Throwing empty bottles around etc. Guess who got up and shouted ” Oi, you lot! pack it in!) they were so shocked that they did. My husband was not amused with his wife.
    😆

    http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys-forum-001.php

    Been experimenting. The HTML code seems to work!!
    Smiley

    Hi wicken,

    Don’t get me started on the patronisation of older peeps. Amen to all you say in your post about ageism and all that goes with it. To save time and searching (and venom 😉 ) here’s the link to a thread I started some time ago.

    https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/patronisation-of-older-people-is-it-worse-if-you-are-cuddly/

    I don’t know how tall you are, but at 5’1″ I can’t help but feel the lack of height helps feed the little-old-lady stereotype.

    Likewise this image which sends me ballistic each time I look. This seems to be the Beebs perception of the OVER-55s, for Pete’s sake.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26654759

    I feel very, very strongly about this issue, but ironically am scared to ‘come out’,as it were, as it could cost me the job I love. However, if sales staff in places like M&S, Boots et al address me as sweetheart, darling, my love, the list goes on, I complain to the management and it seems to work.

    A very good example of how things should be handled is set by Birkbeck, Uni of London, the college that advertises itself as London’s Evening University, where I studied part-time for a Graduate Cert in History of Art and Architecture (a conversion course for people with degrees in other disciplines)before continuing to the MA in History of Art, the results of which I await with bated breath.

    The college’s demographic is very wide, from school-leavers to people in their 60s,70s, 80s and beyond doing part-time undergrad and post-grad degrees. The assumption is that if you are there you can walk the walk and talk the talk. No quarter is asked or given on grounds of age. Never in the three years I spent there did any member of the academic, library or admin staff ever patronise me.

    Except once. That was when Registry managed to lose my BA certificate and my PGCE (post-grad teaching qualification for our friends outside the UK) and suggested that maybe I’d forgotten to send them in (the subtext being I was a daft old biddy), failing to realise that I wouldn’t be there in the first place if I hadn’t submitted the correct documentation.

    I’d love to get a T-shirt emblazened with the words ‘Patronise me at your peril’ on one side and ‘Diss me if you dare” on the other. Maybe one day I will.

    One positive thing that happened recently. I was on the top deck of a bus at a time when all the schools were turning out. When I reached my stop, two young teenage boys were at the top of the stairs and one told the other to stand back for the lady (me). He replied, ‘Why should I? She ain’t old.’ But he stood back with a polite smile anyway and I politely smiled back.

    hermajtomomi

    I had to cut and paste your name as it won’t stay in my head long enough to write it from memory Smiley
    I shall be returning to your first link to enjoy it further and agree with it.
    I’m 5’2″, gradually shrinking!
    Love the bit about the lads giving way to you.
    The second link to The Beeb’s awful picture…what on earth were those ladies doing sitting there in those ‘ we are poor old dears’ positions. The body language was simply awful.
    Let’s all keep the fighting spirit.
    Age is only a word after all..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nlmtg

    Have a look at this sometime.
    Absolutely delightful and touching film about 3 ‘old’ people refusing to give in.

    Very quickly, wicken

    Would you believe I had words with a couple of younger people – including my toy-boy hubby, 5 years my junior and a very dear friend in her late 40s and looking mid-30s as so many do these days – who claimed that it was ME who was out of step. Most 55-plusses (spelling??) looked like that.

    I had to remind my friend that her own 70+ mum has the figure of a 30-something, dresses very stylishly and youthfully, by which I don’t mean mutton dressed up but choosing the sort of clothes that work for anyone from about 30 upwards. Anyway she always looks great, whether casual or posh.

    And now, I’d better get back to work. With so many fun people to chat to, the forum becomes addictive.

    Yeah! Good on ’em. Must say I quite fancy the beardy Liverpudlian. 🙂

    Mine’s a toy boy too! 3 years younger.

    Our daughter would soon pull me up sharpish if I went round looking like the ‘poor old dears’ in that Beeb picture.
    Back to the hovering. Agreed this does get addictive but it’s so much fun!
    No good for my back though, Never mind, Yoga Class tonight. 🙂

    Speedy, what a hard time you have had recently. My husband was also morbidly obese with blood pressure and diabetic problems I encouraged him to do the Fast Beach Diet with me (see below). He has lost well over 2 stone in 5 months. He also got an ‘Exercise by referral’ docket from his doctor that gave him 3 months free membership at our local Leisure Centre where he has been swimming and going to the gym and that has also helped him. His three months free membership is up and he is now paying for membership and going there four days a week.

    But to return to an earlier post I am also 71. Until I reached the menopause, I wasn’t overweight. If I put on a few pounds I calorie counted and upped my exercise for a couple of weeks until it dropped. I thought weight control was a doddle. Then a couple of years before the menopause my weight began to climb and wouldn’t respond to my normal weight loss regime. Over 6 or 7 years I put on 21 lbs and nothing I did would bring it down. I was stuck with that extra weight for over 10 years. I might loose 5 or 6 lbs but no more and it always went back on. I tried several fad diets including the Atkins diet, which just made me feel really ill.

    Last year I tried the Fast Diet, but again lost no weight at all so this summer I tried the Fast Beach diet. On non-diet days I kept my calories as near to 1100 a day as possible, but at least once a week went up to 1500. To my amazement it worked. Over 5 months I have lost 2 stone and I am now on a maintenance regime of 6:1.

    I haven’t found the Fast Days too bad. I skip breakfast and have half my calories at lunch time and the rest in the evening. Like emmbee I eat very few carbohydrates on Fast Days. In fact my whole diet period has been fairly low carb because my husband has an intense weight response to carbohydrates and as he is the one who really needs to lose weight for health reasons, what we eat is tailored to his needs.

    I have found the whole process incredibly easy. I have always been a physically active person, I walk a lot, garden, swim and generally I am very bad at sitting down and staying in a chair for very long and the only time I have felt tired on a Fast Day is if I have had an exceptionally physically active day.

    I would say that you can do the Fast Diet/Fast Beach Diet at any age and benefit from it. Like many others my indigestion has cleared up. I have always been active but I can now walk further, faster and with more energy than for years and I have much more energy.

    Hello Skinnysoon
    Our specifications are about the same. I started in July setting out to lose 20kg initially, but now I have decided 30k is reasonable. My initial weight was about the same as yours. However i decided that the alternate day fast was better for me and after 3 months I have lost about 11 kg. Your first week loss is very high. You must have eaten just about nothing. Good luck with the next weeks

    Hermaj, I was reading what you said about translating to the mother tongue. It was fascinating to watch my bilingual children when they were small. I remember the French prof from our local university talking to my older girl in French. She eyed him up and down and answered in English. Very quickly my children added English words to their French when the English word was better. This habit has not changed. Now my grandson has 3 languages and at two and a half, he knows who to speak to in Italian, and who to speak to in English. At present French is passive. I translate scientific documents into English, but usually those asking leave too little time and translation takes reflection! But bilingualism is one of the greatest gifts given to my children.
    Tomorrow is a FD, and Thursday is a popular FD I note. Good luck. Salads are losing their appeal in the cooler weather.
    Wicken, good to see your developing animation skills. I especially like the one typing on a computer keyboard. I must follow up the link to learn them.
    Bye KiwiWiwi

    Bonjour everyone – I’m on my second FD of the week and it’s going well so far; I’ve even baked a Victoria Sponge to take to my daughter’s tomorrow, and I didn’t have the tiniest taste of the cake mix (such willpower!). I’m also making a cottage pie to take too. I will, of course, be enjoying both tomorrow. This WOE definitely suits me, knowing that after a FD I can enjoy whatever I like within my TDEE.

    Over 3 months I have managed to lose 1 stone and am visibly seeing differences now; I aim to lose another stone by Christmas with everyone’s encouragement.

    I read an item of interest earlier today for we LOACA – apparently it is World Menopause Day on 18th October – not sure what it will involve but it’s good that this stage of our life is recognised and discussed.

    I also heard on Radio 4 a discussion about how 1000 calories of healthy foods cost £5 more than 1000 calories of ‘junk’ foods – well, of course it would. We all know that ‘junk’ food, i.e. a pizza, contain more calories than a piece of fish, so the calories of unhealthy food would soon mount to 1000; and would obviously ‘cost less’. This type of journalism makes me so cross!

    Have a good day, particularly if you are fasting.

    A bientot
    Femme

    Wow, you are doing so well Femme Anglaise.
    Trouble is the green eyed monster is at my elbow when I read these posts!
    Not fasting today but shall be tomorrow and possibly Saturday in preparation for our anniversary lunch on Sunday.


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    Hello femme
    What is a Victoria sponge?
    I don’t think this recipe travelled to the Antipodes.

    Dear Loaca
    It is a FD for me today, but doomed to failure. I ate in the cafe of a famous furniture shop painted in blue and yellow yesterday and today I feel quite ill.

    Yes, Liketea99, we really miss PreciousBooBoo, and tried to induce her to come back.
    Maybe it was a cultural thing, but even though I read all the exchanges, I didn’t quite get what was going on. BooBoo made us all feel so welcome and was full of good advice.

    Maybe this thread is petering out. I regret this, but femme Anglaise is doing her best to keep it going.

    Skinnysoon, what is happening to you? Are you on a different thread?
    Well, LOACA, have a very good Sunday and maybe talk soon.
    XX KiwiwWiwi

    Hi Kiwiwiwi
    I agree with you about Boo. Several of us tried to encourage her to come back to her own thread. We just need to respect her decision not to.

    Hope you get over feeling rough. I fasted yesterday so my son is cooking something that smells fantastic and I’m waiting with feet up getting hungrier and hungrier 🙂

    Femme is a stalwart of this threat but lately she only seems to check in once a week. I read all the posts because they come to my phone but if I reply from my phone the message disappears into the ether and never shows on the list. I’ve no idea why that happens.

    Lizzypb

    Bonjour LOACA:

    LikeTea99 – I note your post of yesterday has been removed but I’ve just read it in my email. It was very powerful, and you are a definite advocate for Boo. I have been posting for around 4 months and was on the thread when PreciousBooBoo was having ‘issues’ with others; at the time I did back Boo up on the other thread. However, there were further comments which I did not fully understand, which obviously were the last straw for Boo. Since Boo left I have, like others, written encouraging Boo to return but sadly she has not. I dearly hope that Boo is continuing with the FD as she was a huge inspiration to us all, with her wise words and encouragement, and her sense of humour.

    I see that you have had a hard time losing weight, as Boo does; I too am having a slow weight loss having also worked hard – I have been a professional dieter for the past 40 years so know all about calories, carbohydrates, fats, exercise, etc. – but this WOE does seem to be working with an average steady weight-loss of 1 lb/per week (or perhaps a bit less). Over the past three months I have lost one stone (another two to go) of which I am thrilled. My main health issue preventing a quicker loss is hypothyroidism, which I am being treated for; and following a recent visit to my Endocrinologist who stated that ‘you may have to accept that your weight will remain as it is now in the long term’, I could have given up, but he has actually spurred me on to prove him wrong. I wish you all the best LikeTea.

    A special ‘bonjour’ to you KiwiWiwi – when do you leave for warmer climes? You ask what is a ‘Victoria Sponge’ – I would say it is quintessentially (such a lovely word)
    an English afternoon tea cake. The ingredients are: butter, sugar, flour, eggs, a touch of vanilla extract and milk. When baked (in two tins) sandwich the two halves together with strawberry jam and double cream (or in France where they don’t do double cream, use a thick creme fraiche). Lightly dust with icing sugar, and enjoy. This is the favourite cake of our family, especially my grandaughter, who loves baking with me.

    The doyenne (must originate from the french) of english baking, Mary Berry, has just finished judging ‘The Great British Bake-off’, and if you would like to have a go at baking a Victoria Sponge take a look at the recipe on her website – http://www.maryberry.co.uk – I can highly recommend having a go.

    Hi Lizzypb – lovely to hear from you. As you say I only appear once a week these days, I have ‘lost heart’ without Boo, but I shall continue and hope that both old and new FD-ers will join in again. I remember when I first joined there were a dozen messages every day when I logged in to my email, and Boo was always there keeping us on our toes.

    A bientot,
    Femme

    I can’t believe I’m doing this – my first ever post on any site! What’s made me do it is everyone seems very friendly and we’re all doing the same thing – trying to shift the scales! Plus this Forum is full of ladies like me who struggle because of our age. I’m 64 and have always had to watch my weight but now it is suddenly so much harder to lose even one or two pounds.
    I have tried Weightwatchers but it made no difference except that I got bored thinking about points every minute of every day. So I’m on my first ever fast day – and my stomach just let out an enormous growl!

    Bonjour and welcome Jinkins – the bonjour is because I live in Burgundy, moving here from England in 2011 to be near my daughter and family. If you want to learn more about me take a look at my profile.

    Like you this is the first site I have ever posted on, and the support and advice from other LOACA is positive and encouraging, and it’s lovely to hear from ladies from around the world.

    Good luck with your fast today, I’m fasting tomorrow and Thursday this week. The beauty of this way of eating is that you can chose your own fasting days and know that on the other days you can eat your favourite foods (up to your TDEE of course); and amazingly you lose weight!

    I look forward to hearing how you go so do keep in touch,
    Femme

    Hello Jinkins
    Welcome. The first days are not easy, keep up the intake of liquids. Fizzy water is a good stomach filler. Hunger pangs are not constant, they come and go. It is one idea to note the pangs on a sort of diary. If you give them a rating say out of ten or 5 (a little like a pain rating) you will notice they come and go.
    I am a year older than you and this is my 4th month on this way of living.
    The best thing about the FD is that you don’t need to feel bad if you break the fast, you do another day, or just say next time I will do better. We all find that it is great to plan the fast days and organize activities which are engrossing.
    In fact I am doing the alternate day fasting WOL, or the 4:3 as it is also known. It was difficult at first, but now it is just the way things are and I have lost 12 kg (24lbs)
    If you get headaches, drink a lot of low cal liquids.
    Michael Moseley’s book is interesting if you want to go into the science of this way of living.
    You will find a lot of support on this thread. Good luck and let us know how you are feeling.
    One great thing is that we all feel so better. I have 30kg to lose and I am coming on for halfway there. But already I feel so light on my feet. My joint pains are lessening, I can feel that my eyes are better, My skin is in better condition.
    When you have even more good things to look forward to, you realise you are onto a win-win strategy.
    Femme, thank you for the Victoria sponge recipe. On an upday I will make it and eat a little. I will share it with my neighbours. They get plenty of amusement out of us and our non-French ways. You know the attitude to ginger in France. I just love ginger and I make them gingerbread with crystallized ginger in it. What reactions!
    We leave for NZ in 3 weeks. The weather here is awful.
    Good on you wanting to prove your doctor wrong.
    I feel exactly as you do about keeping this thread going.
    BooBoo, you are instrumental in helping me to get onto this WOL. I know you were often disappointed with your own progress. Would love to have you back, but respect your wish not to.
    Good to see you back, Lizzypb. NickyF, you are on JoJo’s thread and sometimes here.
    I miss you on this thread PVE. You always had positive things to say, Aussi mate.
    Every good thought to today’s fasters.
    XX KiwiWiwi

    Hi KiwiWiwi

    The Southern Hemisphere is warming up and we are looking forward to a long Summer. I hope you enjoy your time in NZ. We lived there for four years and go back regularly.

    After five months of maintenance, I am still on 5:2 to maintain my health, my size loss and my weight loss of 17 kg. if I don’t fast, I don’t feel as healthy. I am also still on low carb and low sugar as both of them cause me to put weight on.

    PVE is out there on the Maintenance thread and on the Southern hemisphere thread.

    Cheers to all LOACAs. Bay 🙂

    Hi Bayleafoz
    Hello from dreary Europe (the weather) It’s good to know you are out there. I will go on to Southern Hemispherites when I am in NZ. Couldn’t let these Aussies have the monopoly.
    As you know kiwis are well balanced people (according to the Aussies) We have a chip on each shoulder!
    Cheers
    KiwiWiwi

    Hi Wicken

    Thanks for link to emoticons.

    testing here of my favourite: [url=http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php][img]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/rotfl.gif[/img][/url]

    Obviously done something stupid! What’s new?

    Hi KiwiWiwi

    And obviously Kiwis have a wicked sense of humour. 😆 I had a second thought after I posted this on the other thread and then checked where you had made the remark. Oops, as Nicky says, I made a mistook.

    Cheers, Bay 🙂

    Hi Femme Anglaise and Tangatawiwi
    Thank you so much for your replies. My first fast day was OK -I got through till lunchtime very easily, had a carrot and onion soup and then we went off to see Gone Girl (great movie) which I though would keep me occupied. It did but by the time I got home my stomach was growling and I felt quite light headed so I think next time I’ll eat earlier! Anyway slept well despite having to pee every couple of hours (I probably had drunk a lot more liquid than I normally do so will watch that next time)and I have had my normal water with lemon and a coffee this morning
    and don’t actually feel hungry at all yet! And I think after your encouragement I will buy the book so I really understand the process. Have a great trip Tangatawiwi – sound exciting – is it a holiday or permanent relocation??

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