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  • Is that like “water, no ice” in Thai?
    We had pulled pork, pork fillet, pork and apple sausages and bacon. Not intentionally, just ended up that way. Onky mozzies were killed!!!! ?

    Woohoo! No weight gain this morning from the big weekend and now another fast under my belt. Easy!
    Where are all the mcs? Enjoying life, I hope ? G’night P

    That’s good news PVE!

    Well done pUrple, that is fantastic! Weekends are the worst for weight gain :).

    We had Thanksgiving here last night and although I ate little during the day, had a small serve of the main meat, I also had pumpkin pie. Went to bed feeling slightly sick!

    I was so disappointed , I made Eton Mess as an Aussie contribution to the desserts and it flopped :(. I put it together too soon and by the time we ate it all the meringue had dissolved into the berries.

    Sounds like a fun international Thanksgiving Carol. How’s the Canadian weather? P

    Well done, Purple for feasting without gaining weight. I had a good fast day today, too but Mondays are always easy. Next fast will be on Thursday. I am still a couple of pounds over goal and somehow seem to negate my two fasts. Nevertheless, this is something I will sort out by the end of the month and before our holiday in November. The answer for me is to watch my TDEE more closely on non fast days rather than roughly adding up calories throughout the day. 2000 calories saved in a week can be swallowed up in the other five days. So I need to be more vigilant. That’s all ?

    Tricky L, isn’t it?
    These days I tend to approach the 5 days as 24 hour lumps. I look at my total consumption over a day, not individual “meals”. So, I might have a nibble late at night which might have been the equivalent of the breakfast I didn’t eat or a big lunch, afternoon tea (something healthy) but no dinner. Not because I’m denying myself, but am now listening more carefully to my body and feeding myself when I need it, not when the clock says. I can happily say, “No thanks, I’m not hungry.”, when offered food! This is only possible because I can easily go 24 hours with no food these days. I’m even finding the Thursday fast is getting as easy as Monday. I just have to keep busy and well hydrated. In the past, I would have thought this impossible ☺ P

    Hi All,

    P, well done on celebrating but maintaining. I don’t think I can say the same of my weekend I’m afraid! Saturday was fine, but I had an appalling allergic rhinitis attack on Sunday and grazed mindlessly on leftover chocolate cake and biscuits. I woke this morning, tired and listless, and ate more cake… I finally realized eating my way through the leftovers was a stupid idea and put the rest in the freezer. Fasting tomorrow…

    Carol, but did the soggy Eton mess taste good?!

    Poor Happy. All that prep and you didn’t enjoy it. I hope your guests did.
    I have noticed my sinusitis disappeared both weekends when I was in the bush and returned when I got home to the city. Must be all the exotics here. The flowering natives don’t seem to set me off. At least I had 2 weekends of free breathing! I hope yours clears up quickly. P

    @happy, what a shame about the rhinitis but well done for realising/remember you had a freezer so the weekend food could be contained. ? I really regret not having a larger freezer – only 2.5 drawers – and I am seriously considering getting another one.

    Good luck tomorrow – I hope you feel up to fasting.

    Yes, Carol that Eaton messy mess sounds fantastic. ?

    Such a shame Happy about the rhinitis. Great step,putting the leftovers in the freezer! I do that too and then try and get rid of them ASAP by giving to Dad or friends.

    Lichtle, I stay below or at TDEE on non FD by eating only healthy food. I don’t restrict the amount but make sure everything I put into my mouth has some nutritional value in it and isn’t just empty calories.

    The Eton messy mess tasted OK but you didn’t get the crunchy contrast of the meringue which is what it’s all about! πŸ™‚

    Well I did fast today. The rhinitis is clearing and I was in the office, which makes it easy to avoid food.

    Just hoping I can ignore the muffled calls of the cake at the back of the freezer πŸ™‚

    Earplugs, Happy, try earplugs ???

    …ahem not to eat you understand…???

    What, not even dipped in chocolate…?!

    Good grief, you girls are incorrigible! !! ?

    Ha ha you girls make me laugh. Sorry i haven’t been posting much. I work 3 days a week and my hubby is home at the moment on long service leave and always seems to be on the computer when i want it. Im not that good posting on the phone. He is planting out his veggie garden and has our nearly 3 yo granddaughter helping him πŸ™‚

    Oh and as this is about 5:2 I should say Im losing after my gain on the weekend and fasting again tomorrow πŸ™‚

    Well done, Judy….getting the computer and controlling the weight! πŸ˜‰ P

    Well I finished the fast day without resorting to eating earplugs! And this morning I’m safely back in my wriggle window. And feeling nicely ‘reset’ (no sugar craving, looking forward to some healthy mindful eating).

    Judy,

    I’m pleased to hear my OH isn’t the only one who can detect someone else trying to use ‘his’ computer from half a mile away and finds he has an urgent need for it himself!

    Ditto in the Purple household! That’s why I’m always sending short, staccato posts from my phone πŸ™
    Well done on the fast Hap. My turn tomorrow. πŸ™‚

    Such fun reading! That’s why I now have my own iMac. Only happened this year. πŸ˜‰ Necessary for harmony! B πŸ™‚

    What you all need is a computer-illiterate OH (one each, of course, not one to share. ) you will have to send his emails, order and forget your own birthday present – but you’ll never need to queue to post again ….

    No proper fast yet this week – 2 ‘bitty’ days in London (trains, hospitals, lots of walking) let to ‘bitty’ eating – mostly apples and nuts, but succumbed to a wicked bit of comfort eating after a particularly nasty procedure. (I keep suggesting that they give me a sticker for not crying, then I wouldn’t ‘need’ chocolate shortbread, or a bacon sarnie for breakfast next day, but no go.)
    Safely home now, and weight unchanged (perhaps the 3 mile walk, done 4 times over 2 days, helped – the Fitbit is exploding with joy at 16,500 steps on Monday!). Jazz night at the pub tonight – can’t really occupy a table without eating, now can we? – but will try to make healthy choices, and definitely a FD tomorrow! Hope some of you will be joining me – you’re all doing so well, and it definitely makes it easier.

    @fast, on behalf of all the maintainers here I would like to officially hand you a big sticker for not crying and being a good girl. :-))

    2 “bitty” days in London is excellent especially if they contain apples and nuts. I would even dare to say 2 “bitty” days = 1 fast day. πŸ˜‰ With regards to Jazz night – how hip are you? And yes, you have to eat. ;-)) I will join you with a good fast tomorrow,

    Fast, good solution to the computer hogging crisis but what do you think we should do with our current computer literate husbands? Is there a husband library somewhere nobody has told me about?

    Library? I’m looking for an archive… Wouldn’t want to risk someone unwittingly getting him out on long-term loan πŸ™‚

    Yeaaaahhhh, Happy, true love indeed. What would you file him under?

    Ah – hadn’t thought about that – silly me. Perhaps put him into the reference- only section, Happy, then no-one can take him home? (And before anyone else says it, some of them could be labelled as valuable antiquities, and handled with kid gloves….) think I’ll hang onto mine, though, if that’s ok – even if he is frustratingly computer (and music, and poetry!) illiterate…

    Thank you, Lichtle – though I confess to a few babyish tears in the loo afterwards, so not sure if the sticker is deserved. (But neither was the chocolate shortbread and double espresso, but they did help! Oh, that dreadful early conditioning!)

    I’ll think of you tomorrow. I’ve just unwittingly laid the breakfast table, since we shall be out this evening. Off now to un-lay it!

    You did deserve that sticker Fast…. hope you are over ‘it’ now ?

    Dear Mr P usually makes me a milky coffee first thing and brings it up to me in bed. On fast days he delivers a black tea as a little reminder to fast. I’m learning to be very disappointed by black tea ? Sweet man, though, and will not go into the lending library either. He has always been on the reference shelves because he knows everything. ..just ask him! P ?

    Fast,

    Not even a lollipop or a cube of sugar?! You were a brave soldier indeed!

    Re: my OH. He is much in demand, as he is very handy. He’d fly off the library shelves, but I wouldn’t really archive him…at least not while he’s still useful!

    No P sorry, your husband can’t possibly,know everything because mine does!! I keep telling him he should go into politics seeing as he knows how to fix all the Problems with our country! πŸ™‚

    Well done fasters and those undertaking medical procedures and those waiting in line to use computers πŸ™‚

    Well my OH doesn’t think he knows everything, just more than me…!

    Carol, I love the way testosterone equals a belief that males have knowledge about everything and if they don’t know, just make it up and sound convincing. That’s why males get the top jobs…incredible self confidence.
    I lend Mr P out to needy female neighbours to do little jobs (install new clothes lines, fix noisy water heaters) but I keep him on a short tether! πŸ˜‰

    So, Not sure where this husband library is supposed to be but from all your comments, luckily, there doesn’t seem to be any need for the time being….phew…

    … although listening to Carol and Purple I am not sure if we are not already unwittingly sharing?

    Hi Lichtle,

    I’m not sure it’s sharing precisely, more separated at birth?!

    Haha! πŸ˜† good fasting everywhere. Off to walk on a mountain before it gets too hot. Bay πŸ™‚

    Haha
    No Im not ready to give up my hubby just yet either πŸ™‚ Hes planted out a lot of veggies in ‘our’ garden and Im looking forward to lots of fresh produce over Summer. You name it I think hes planted it- even the veggies I never even buy!

    Good point, Happy. ?

    Morning all, you’ve been having lots of fun on this thread. I’ll contribute to the OH discussion by adding that mine can fix absolutely anything and the whole street knows it. No job too big. It’s amazing how fast their jobs get done compared to my list…..but as far as computing goes, for someone who spends every free minute with the laptop in one hand and the ipad in the other, it’s hard to believe how much help he needs in that department. In our household, we don’t do sharing so everyone has a laptop and, as mentioned, one of us has an ipad too.

    FFS, the procedure sounds horrid, the jazz club sounds wonderful. I really miss listening to great jazz bands when we lived in California.

    I enjoyed a good FD yesterday. Many of you have said the second FD is hardest, I tend to find the opposite. If anything, I’d say the Sunday fast is harder because it’s been three days of larger portions in between whereas by Wednesday, I’ve only had two days one of which involves a morning tea at my learning centre class so I’m relieved to have the required discipline back again on Weds.

    Black tea is no substitute for the frothy coffee first thing Purple. Someone on another thread told me about Almond & Coconut milk which has made my FD mornings almost normal. It’s not the dishwater appearance of skimmed milk. Now, even better, someone’s mentioned Almond Breeze milk (which unlike the A&C also froths so an added bonus) and it’s only 17 cals per 100mls so you can get a lot of coffees out of that.

    Hi again MCs. Not that you probably need inspiration at this stage but just letting you know about a new Fast Day Recipe page started by Coastcat from our SH thread. You can find it here:
    https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/southern-hemispherites-fd-recipes/#post-115108

    If you have any great FD recipes either for lone fasters or family sharing, please consider sharing them. If you’re kind enough to contribute, please make sure the no. of serves and the calorie count is included. We’re hoping for no chatting so it reads like a recipe book. Thanks everyone.

    Hope the Thursday fasters are going well – another day almost done for many!

    Hi Thin,

    I’m with you, black coffee just doesn’t do it! I have an (almond) milky coffee pretty much every morning now, fast day or not. Low cal and filling too!

    My OH will help anybody, and does get on with jobs at home too. If there is something I think needs doing, but he doesn’t think is a priority, I just have to start it – badly – and he will quickly step in to show me how it should be done (how a man would do it?!) πŸ™‚

    Happy fasting all! Or mindful eating at least…

    PS Fast, I hope the jazz and food were enjoyable?

    You’re really making me laugh Happy, my OH will do that too – I often don’t even have to start the job but just ask where does he keep the ****** tool. This starts the interrogation of what I need it for, followed by the name of the correct tool and often he just does the job just to keep me from rummaging around the workshop & incorrectly using things.

    Add to that rolling his eyes at my stupidity in not knowing the correct tool for the job/ the name of said tool, and that’s my OH too!

    He has been known to test me on basic diy knowledge… The correct ratio of sand to gravel to water for various building jobs, which screw to use, etc…

    It’s important to let them think they know things we don’t.
    For years I, supposedly, didn’t know how to make coffee ?

    I just get the blank look if I use the wrong terms. Won’t even pretend to know what I’m talking about. Then I just ask, “do you know the origin, insertion and innervation of every muscle in the body?” No? Well, I don’t know the difference between a router and a band saw either.

    Ha ha Purple, I have a friend who has no idea how the BBQ works after 40 years of marriage (men’s work).

    Morning all
    Happy, the Jazz was wonderful – brilliant double bassist – the company good – a lovely Erving, thank you. They do it twice a month; we don’t always go – neither money nor calories will always stretch! But it’s always fun.
    What more can I say? Oh yes, the food! ‘Healthy choices’ they weren’t: pulled pork and apple encased in a (large!) shortcrust pastry pie, with sautΓ© potatoes and leeks, followed by toffee Creme brΓ»lΓ©e and ice cream – but I enjoyed every mouthful, and felt much better (not even overstuffed, so I must have been hungry!) afterwards. I shall simply regard last night as my usual Friday feast day, and have a proper FD today – and apols for that bit of food porn to any fellow fasters!

    I did pick up one interesting bit of info: the female half of the friends we were with is mid-attempt to lose 2.5 stone, via Slimming World. (She’s diabetic, insulin-dependent to the point of injecting at the table, and insists that she therefore can’t fast, and I was too mellow (tr tired) to argue the point. ) What I found interesting was that apparently you pay to go to SW meetings until you reach target weight, but once you reach maintenance you go for free – presumably because you’re a brilliant support and advert to others, as well as because they’ve no doubt had a hefty sum from you by then. BUT – if you then go more than 3lbs, either above or below your target weight, you have to start paying again. Sounded very sensible to me, as a way of avoiding eating disorders as well as gain-back – and then I reflected how lucky we are, to be giving one another exactly the same, for free, (and to be able to pig-out occasionally – she made much more abstemious choices, and has to do that every day!!)

    Great story FFS. Feels so good to have the answer doesn’t it? I’m just sorry it’s taken me so long.

    PVE, did you see that Catalyst programme the other night extolling all the virtues of purple fruit & veg.?

    Oh my gosh, these men are all cut from the same cloth aren’t they! I’ve had those same conversations about tools Happy and Thinatlast and also not ‘knowing’ how to do certain things like you Purple and just quietly have no intention of learning πŸ™‚

    Interesting story about Slimming World FFS – they don’t allow for much fluctuation with 3 lb wriggle room. I think it would be a lot harder than fasting.

    Thanks for the recipe link Thin. Will also see if I can find the Catalyst program on line. BTW, we have been eating home grown purple potatoes while we are over here in Canada. Not particularly good for cooking, very soft, but different.

    Thanks Thin, I’ll have to check Calayst out on iView. Purple veg rock!!
    How sad that your dinner companion has not had cutting edge advice on diabetes. It IS fasting that allows the body to heal. Weight loss helps, but it is the fasting that overcomes the diabetes problems. Mr P is living proof of it. Dr Jason Fung has lots of online info on it.

    Glad you are still enjoying Canada, Carol. The purple potatoes are lovely. I have made complete parties (for kids) of purple food. Lots of fun and surprisingly healthy!

    Gave up on my Thursday fast yesterday. Funny how a low weight in the morning of a fast day is just not enough incentive for me to last all day. C’est la vie πŸ™‚

    Have a good weekend folk. P

    Precisely, P – I was thinking of Mr P while we were having the conversation. But sometimes you just know that trying to give better info will be ‘pearls before swine’ (however lovely and un-piglike the person) – you know? I’ve reached the conclusion that – everything we know about health benefits of fasting apart – it’s largely a personality thing: she ‘couldn’t possibly manage on 500 calories, or go to bed hungry’, while I couldn’t possibly restrict my food choices 24/7! Sadly, her loss, but not through ignorance or lack of info: not only did I tell her the principles of 5:2 when she first noticed that I was losing weight, her doctor also told her that ‘if you can do 5:2 for 18 months, you can reverse your diabetes. ‘. Shes chosen a different route – so it obviously takes more than just knowledge to overcome stubborn resistance!

    Understand completely Fast. As an educator, I know that the learner needs to feel a disconnect with their current understanding to be ready to accept new knowledge. She is both insulin and fasting resistant. πŸ™‚ Very sad. I’m pleased her doctor has the knowledge.
    Mr P went to the doctor yesterday, as he needed a form to prove he is no longer insulin dependent for the drivers’ licence authority. He has to do this every year apparently. It’s like the friend of mine who gets a disability parking sticker as she has lost a leg. They ask her to confirm her need every year. She looks down, smiles, and says “No, it hasn’t grown back.”
    The doc is still over the moon about Mr P’s success with 5:2 and diabetes. And so he should be! P

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