Jojo,
you are doing really well with your recovery. I hope it continues to go smoothly. It must have been so nice to play bowls again.

Wee,
it is great to heat that your birthday celebrations just keep getting better!

Hi irenc, welcome to the thread and thank you for sharing with us. You will receive plenty of support on this thread.

It’s been a beautiful day here. I had a great session at the gym, I’ve started using the cross trainer this week and it has been going very well. I gave it up several months ago because I found it such a struggle and am really pleased that it is so much easier now that my back and hip are so much better.

I went for a stroll this afternoon in the sunshine and sat outside a cafe near the lock. My coffee came with a biscuit which I studiously ignored despite feeling hungry.

The weather tomorrow looks good which is a blessing as I’m taking my great nephew out on my own for the first time and the park will be so much more fun in warm sunshine than the lashing rain and biting winds that we’ve been experiencing lately.

My B2B FDs have gone well. I’m looking forward to a normal eating day tomorrow before doing another B2B Th/F. I must be mad……..

Jo Jo. i seem to loose the link you gave me an answer on. The scales today say i hae lost 2lb. So feel i am getting somewhere. Out for lunch tomorrow. Hope there is a light sort of meal on menu . So i am 5ft and 10 stone. Guess its not too bad. When child sex abuse things are in the news it gets to me. As you say there was no one to turn too in our childhood.

Hi Fast Trackers
Nicky Emel and Aussie O in South Australia Nama in Victoria Bay in ACT PVE in NSW WiWi France Barata in NZ and Jojo HappyNow Amazon Herm Lizzy Ply Tartan lass Smiffy Weemam Lor_PA CakeyWakey Sarah103 HealthCoachB Tessy pen nib Iona72 Pentimento pranayama and Hello World (You All know Who You ARE) 😉
10221 steps in the bank this morning and what a beautiful day coming up min 20 max 31 it’s a sheer privilege to be alive
Day 2 of my 4 day fast has always been a struggle which it was went to bed hungry as but this morning wake full of Zen and all is right with my world and days 3 & 4 you actually believe that you could roll off another day without much to-do at all. With the hunger dragon well tamed now there is a heap of research and case studies out there for those who are interested in a longer fast I find the whole experience very powerful. Keeping in mind that an average 70kg man can go 1-3 months living off your own fat stores really is quite amazing.
It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop. Confucius
“Remember that reserve of fat you have on your body already and realise you actually don’t need food, you just want it.”

Happy Hump Day People
RT

Hi all, Lizzie it sounds like you are well on your way!
Lovely to hear you are back bowling AND fasting Jojo! And Amazon, I hope the cross trainer was kind to you….. Great your back is so much better. Was it the Robin McKenzie book/exercises that finally did the trick?
Wow RT, you are such an inspiration! It is so good to push ourselves (and succeed) isn’t it? I truly never thought I would master the water/coffee/miso only fast, but actually find it easier now just not to eat for the day and night (=36 hrs) of my fast. The hunger dragon just goes off to sulk somewhere!
Wiwi I am sad for you re your daughter moving so far, maybe your travel routes will alter now? And maybe she won’t stay in Chile forever! When we are young and have our children, we don’t realise how hard it will be to let them go do we? But we were the same at their age – off for adventures, barely thinking about our parents and certainly having no concept of how much we would be missed!!
Such a glorious day here I think the garden will take precedence over the dusting!!

Hello Everybody,
My FD went smooth like nothing! I was so motivated with all of you and the good stories plus no distractions here so today I was psychologically ready. The menu was 4oz chicken, 1/2 cup cooked quinoa, 1 mandarin and coffee with very little cream. I believe I was within that 500 calorie allowance on 18:6. Next day with God on my side will be Thursday. Do you have a favorite FD recipe?

Irene welcome to Jojo’s group! I feel home and very well supported here. I haven’t reached my goal because of not embracing the whole thing serious yet. Give your a chance… You can do this.

Wiwi I was the only who left my entire family from Brazil to the US! I heard Chile it’s a beautiful country. Maybe you’ll go that way someday. Today with the advent of Internet and cheap phone calls I speak with Mother twice a week. I am very sure was heard hard for her in the beginning when I left… We’ve gotten used to the idea after 21 years.

RT – You are so brave this week! Curious to know at the end of your 4th day how is it to fast for fort that long. Thanks for the quotes… I should not have walked away from this lifestyle last year. I am paying a price now… We’ll talk about some satisfactory results in 8 weeks. I just have to be pacient now.

Tomorrow’s plan it’s to meet a girlfriend for lunch on some sort of trendy organic place in Town. It sounds exciting.

“Let’s stand strong”.

Xoxoxo
B

Please can anyone help me……?

My Name is Lorraine, I am age 51, I have many health issues, including Sleep Apnoea and Diabetes….My Diabetes is well controlled.

My question really is, I have had problems with my Gall Bladder for some 9 Years, the last time I had an attack I also had Pancreatitus….I was very unwell, I have to have my Gall Bladder removed this time, I am due in Surgery in 4 weeks time.

I have lost 3 Stone since January, but now my weight loss had really slowed down, I have been on approx 1300 Calories a day, sometimes less….I need to lose more Weight for Surgery, but is Fasting ok to do when you have Gall Stones? Or might Fasting cause a further attack?

I am desperate to lose Weight to make the Surgery safer for me..…I am 5’2, and I
now Weigh 20 Stone.

I am also in a Wheelchair, exercise is difficult, but I do chair exercises.

Can anyone help me please?

saanacadamy What the Heck are you on about?

Clearly you have not followed this Forum or this ‘thread’ within this Forum. The 5:2 WOL (Way-Of-Life) is not a ‘diet’ so to speak. It is an adjustment or a ‘correction’ from poor eating habits to a more healthy way of eating, fasting and moving. By doing so the 5:2 program allows a (dedicated) person
1st: lose unwanted fat-weight
2nd: provide a system/program to sustain an excellent weight to body mass ratio
3rd: and just4me amazing unexpected health benefits: deeper sleep on FD (fast day), a lightness of being and chronic joint pain has been reduced

We each individualize the kinds of food we eat and the kind of exercise we conduct. The 5:2 program includes rhythmic ‘soft-fasting’ two or three times a week.
Fasting, calorie reduction (via healthy eating), consuming plenty of water-liquids and smart exercise is proven to be a sustainable healthy way to live.

Yes, in the beginning to get rid of the unwanted fat we follow a more sagacious program suited to a slow (1lb-2lb) per week weight loss. Then once we reach our individual goals we have, in most cases, trained ourselves how to eat, move and Fast as a lifelong mindful way of living… Why not? The results are wonderful.

This particular thread is a supportive area where we can share ANYthing with each other and get support, criticism, guidance, information and receive/give respectful feedback.

Well just4me this 5;2/4;3 works and again just4me not a ‘diet but a Way Of Life.

Oh OK thanks I guess I can step down off my bandwagon…

Luvlolly I concur talk with your doctor… once s/he gives the go ahead THEN consider 5:2 as an option for weight lose.

Amazon I meant ‘WOW’ what a weight loss YOU created for yourself…

Hi everyone,

I’m not long home from a delightful walk pushing a pram around a park I’ve not been to before. It is a lovely walk from my nieces house, under the viaduct, through a peaceful little rest garden and into a huge park with paths through wooded areas, a meadow and a link to the canal walk. There is also a small animal park with chickens, goats, rabbits etc. All right in the middle of London 🙂
My great nephew is 8 months old and it is the first time I’ve taken him out on my own. He was as happy as can be, laughing, smiling, singing to himself. My niece advised taking no notice of him if he seemd to be falling asleep so I tried and after a few minutes he shouted at me to gain my attention and then gave me his sweetest smile!
He eventually slept and I sat in the sunshine with a coffee. When he woke up I got yet another lovely smile which was a relief as I was concerned he might be fretful as his Mum wasn’t there.
I also found it interesting that everyone else pushing a pram or buggy spoke to or smiled at me.

It was a very pleasant way to get 12000 steps done.

I don’t have a favourite FD dinner but yesterday I had a huge salad topped with fresh tuna cooked with some sliced garlic and chilli. It was very healthy and absolutely delicious.

Purple, I’ve had back issues on and off for nearly 40 years and I think that losing such a lot of weight actually made it temporarily worse as my body was adapting to not having to carry so much excess baggage around.
McKenzie’s methods are simple and straightforward, no fancy jargon or difficult exercises, just excellent advice from an experienced physiotherapist. The upright stretch with hands on hips and leaning backward is especially useful as it can be done anywhere.
I had never heard of him until Happy mentioned his name so I have her to thank for the improvement 🙂

Thank you pentimento. I did not realise i carried guilt about the sex abuse till recently. I tried conselling in 1991. No change. Once one blames oneself it seems its not going away. Why feel guilt for what the perverted man did. Sounds crazy. So ok i must learn to love myself….

Amazon, I agree re zero noodles or anything like them. I now have piles of freshly steamed green vegetables where in the past I would have had noodles. Or else I just have the stir fry mix on its own.

Wiwi, I feel fir you. 🌺🌺🌺🌺

Hi Fast Trackers
Nicky Emel and Aussie O in South Australia Nama in Victoria Bay in ACT PVE in NSW WiWi France Barata in NZ and Jojo HappyNow Amazon Herm Lizzy Ply Tartan lass Smiffy Weemam Lor_PA CakeyWakey Sarah103 HealthCoachB Tessy pen nib Iona72 Pentimento pranayama and Hello World (You All know Who You ARE) 😉
It’s so important that we continue to have our own study of one no matter how experienced or how long we have been fasting so then we know how far we can push the envelope having to fast overnight for a blood test the following morning was a terrible burden 18 months ago and yet now with a high degree of confidence 96 hours is ok and sort of fine 😯 Nama rolling off a 36 hour fast with liquids only is okey dokey now and doable for you and yet found 19/5 a struggle on occasion last year a remarkable turnaround simply by just keep on keeping on so this is real progress from real people. Walk done in the rain this morning only light misty stuff but still warm currently 16deg took the brolly but didn’t need it 10600 steps banked and last day of the 4 day fast and a hectic day of company audits by overseas importing countries ahead happy Thursday Team
Consult not your fears but your hopes and your dreams. Think not about your frustrations, but about your unfulfilled potential. Concern yourself not with what you tried and failed in, but with what it is still possible for you to do. Pope John XXIII

“It is easier to avoid eating than to stop eating once started”
Peace RT

Although , Amazon, diarrhea has its benefits😉
I used ‘Miracle’ noodles again the other night as the weather had turned cold. A little mince, pasata and lots of steamed veg. Bulked it out for weary travellers. I guess the brands vary. They are a good way to fill up when very hungry, as lobg as you have lots of healthy veg too. P

Morning all!

Good luck with the audits RT – perhaps your brain is even sharper than usual with your big fast? I probably should not encourage you, but thought I would share – my chiropractor (whom I rarely visit these days) is a fan of a 10 day fast every 6 months or so. His comment to me, when discussing long fasts, was that at the end the food tasted “better than sex”! Hmm, as I said, probably shouldn’t encourage you RT! The jokes will all be ‘blue’ now and we may get evicted!!

Jojo (and irene), afraid I have to be on the ‘hate zero noodles” side. I also find them slimy (however much washed) and smelling of urea!! If I want spaghetti, I make noodles from zucchini (courgette) and add home made healthy bolognaise. They also ‘go straight thru’ me Amazon, but if I want that effect I prefer kiwi fruit or a pear! Irene you can have lots of alternatives on your veggies if you get bored with chicken – try a small piece of pan fried salmon (heaven), or a couple of tiny lamb cutlets for a change. Your taste buds are so sharp at the end of a fast day, the salmon tastes amazing.

Finally a bit of drizzly rain in Melbourne, hopefully more to come. Had to water the garden yesterday!!

Morning/evening all,

Nama, I couldn’t think what the smell reminded me of and you’ve hit the nail on the head! 😮

Yesterday was not a FD and I had one too many glasses of wine with a friend so a strict FD is in order today. I may be going out for dinner tomorrow and if so it’ll be a B2B weekend.
RT, I really want to try a 4 day food free fast but keep chickening out. I think I’ll try a 2 day first and see how it goes. It might be good to do it just before I go away when the fridge will be bare.

Sarah, are you positive the turtle needed to be rescued, they tend to lay their eggs in the same place every year and it may have been on it’s way to or from its nesting place.

Have a good one everybody 😜

Jo,

Sounds like we’ve got better weather than you for a change! It reached 17/18 degrees here yesterday, with no wind, very nice! All of a sudden there was a massive expanse of pasty white flesh on show – men in shorts, women in suntops! Forecast nice again today, so I’ve taken the day off to spend it outside. I haven’t got as far as frivolous things like flowers yet though, the first push is always getting the garden dug over and vegetable seeds sown.

Sarah,

Thankfully, we don’t have to worry about turtles in the UK, except that if I did see one in the wild I know it wouldn’t be native to the UK and shouldn’t be there!

Amazon.

I’m also still too chicken to embark on a longer than 24 hour fast! I’ve mastered 24 hours, and I’m confident I could extend that now, and I like the idea of the added health benefits, I just need to psych myself up!

Nama bless you now you have sowed a seed here I constantly have the thought of extending the fast but yfee thinks I am going to fizzle out at any minute or something 😯 but and I say this with absolute honesty that the longer the fast the less I have thoughts about not only when to but how to break what meal or food (usually scramble eggs off the farm) the fast and in general terms it has never been because I am defeated by hunger and to me I think that is astonishing and I have wondered re 7 10 15 21 days fast etc. But boy oh boy now that you have suggested there is a body of evidence 😉 that is comparing the first meal after a 10 day fast “better than sex” obviously he is not doing it correctly no way jose surely not even if you get it wrong its right trust me 😆 now a new study of one later in the year I do hope I have gathered enough evidence to be able to compare :lol;
The audit highlighted some areas for continuous improvement but no corrective action was issued nor was there any critical non-conformity so I do feel very sharp which is a good thing to be able to back up my claim that I am actually smarter than I look who knew 😯
Looking forward to the challenge at the “G” Friday night football Crows $2.90 very generous taking on the reigning Premiers on the big stage and of course the Anzac day match is always so special and steeped in history pies $1.41 favourites enjoy the long weekend.

Peace RT

Hi all,
Just thought I’d let you know I’ll be off line for at least a week until my lap top is repaired. I really hate using my phone so I’ll be lurking but not contributing.

Well it’s been another lovely day up north! 20 degrees, so I’ve been out in t-shirt and shorts and even remembered to apply sun cream 😀 Sadly, normal service resumes tomorrow so it will be back to the thermals ☹️

Jo, I must admit I’ve no idea how long the garden takes (too long!), the jobs are never ending! Luckily I have a man who mows the lawn, rebuilds the walls, paints the sheds, etc. He will even turn his hand to weeding…although I’m not sure I trust him on much more than grass, nettles and docks!