PreciousBooBoo – I note in your last post that you referred to my initial support for you regarding recent posts in the Maintenance Chatbox. I waited for a response from them, and none came until you remarked that there had been no response – I had just assumed ‘they’ did not respond because what I had said was true.

I admit I have spent my life keeping quiet in order to ‘keep the peace’; I learned this as a young girl with a brute of a father, “any more of your lip and you’ll know about it!”

However, as I have grown older and hopefully wiser I am now able to be more assertive, but it can still be difficult – I admire your strength of character Boo.

Femme x

Thanks Hermaj x

Least said, soonest mended WN. We can’t always agree. It wouldn’t be real.

lpb

You’re welcome Smiffy. I was quite shocked to see you in the line of fire and to find myself alongside you.

I’m going to keep a low profile and probably stay away from this thread, at least for a while. I would hate to lose my rag online. As I think I’ve said elsewhere, if I go off on one I make Osama bin Laden look like Mother Teresa. It would be ironic if I were modded for trying to defend myself. Although I don’t strictly qualify, the Maintenance thread seems peaceful and friendly. So those who don’t find me totally obnoxious know whee to find me.

WN, you’re not at all pompous, just, understandably, bewidered. Perhaps for the time being, you could find another, happier thread on the forum and make that your regular “beat”. You can always keep tabs on things in general by clicking on Recent Posts and Active Topics join another thread on the Forum. It would be a pity to lose a nice sensible cyberbuddy like you.

Yes cheese please, totally agree, how things on here have decended into a slanging match is beyond me, very sad.
Karen

Good morning ladies of a certain age.

Was shocked when I logged in for the first time since Friday to read all the heated posts. It’s as if I have somehow entered a parallel LOACA universe.

As I don’t intend to even appear to take sides in this (to me) mystery debate, I will just say that I am very sad that things have descended to this level and hope everyone will take a deep breath, try not to take offence at what seems to be deep misunderstandings and also try to remember that we all joined for mutual support and encouragement.

Best wishes all. Nicky xxx

Hi Luv2

It’s happened, HIP HIP HOORAY, Finally after a two and a half week stasis I’ve lost another pound. Trying that low carb option on my non fast days must have shifted it. It’s been said in the past that just changing your routine will do that. CHEERS.

Hi fellow LOACA’s

Lets get back to business. We are a support, ideas, help site, and I for one have appreciated all the wonderful encouragement and enthusiasm I have read over the weeks.

Have a lovely day.

Jackie T xx

Hi Femme,

I’m certain you will be successful. That pound is but a fast away.

If anyone missed Michael’s documentary Eat, Fast, and Live Longer or something like that, you can find it on BBC iplayer. I believe it’s part of the Horizen celebrations. Will definitely be recording his latest programmes.

Thanks

Jackie T

Next week my 7 year old grandson is coming to stay – and I don’t know how I am going to stay away from temptation in the form of cakes, biscuits, yummy puds, garlic bread etc! When he was born he needed an operation immediately as his oesophagus and his trachea had got mixed up and he couldn’t feed. (It’s called TOF syndrome). He still has a few problems relating to food – gastric reflux, food getting “stuck” etc, and continues on medication. He is also as thin as a rake – still in age 2-3 underpants! Consequently we do our best to feed him up, give him the food he likes and, well, spoil him to bits! He is also a dear little boy so it’s not difficult.

So this coming week is going to be tricky for me, I think I will just go with the flow and get back on track the following week. Any other doting grans out there?

Hello Cheeseplease
I know how you feel. I am so sorry your little one has a few health problems. I am happy you spoil him to bits.
I am a doting Nonna- both my 2 year old and his little brother of 4 weeks are perfect. I wish they did not live 1200. Today the two year old sang Twinkle, twinkle and Robin(not Mary) had a little lamb on skype. It will be a while before they can come and stay. I go and see them every month.
One day I had the bambino on my shoulder( two weeks ago and he was 2 weeks old). He was sleeping. I thought to myself- life can”t get any better than having a little baby snuggling up. My daughter gets a bit exasperated as I like spoiling my grandchildren.
Dear LOACA
On another note, I am now into my 7th week of FD. I have lost about 6 kilos – a stone I think. Like us all. I find this diet works! Thanks to discussion on this post I eat few carbs and none at all on FD. Thanks for that suggestion.
But it’s the energy the lower weight is giving me, I notice most.
KiwiWiwi

Dear Cheeseplease
Thank you for your lovely reply. Yes 1200km is a distance(I forgot the km).
We both deserve a pat on the back for our weight loss.
Enjoy your grandson.

Salut Femme anglaise
Have a lovely week. What language does everyone talk in? I imagine your French grandchildren speak French. Do they speak English too?
My wee Robin speaks Italian and English (but neither very well yet) But he is also exposed to French. These international families!

It’s the end of a beautiful Indian summer day here.

XX KiwiWiwi

Dear Precious BooBoo
I missed all the posts which you objected to and so I did not comment at the time. It is good to clear the air and certainly I agree tht as this is a support network, we must not indirectly criticize others through inappropriate comments.
I really miss your posts when you do not intervene.
But I understand that you are not as active as when I started the FD 6 weeks ago.
Someone said that when they are out of contact with the posts for a while, they go back to read yours, I do too.
You are very supportive to us all, but do you get enough support from us?
Thank you BooBoo
I really appreciate your help and encouragement.
XX kiwiWiwi

Hi Femme Anglaise

Yes I’m very excited about becoming a grandmother to our expected little boy (who might possibly be Max! It’s on the list!) By the time he’s born (mid-December) I hope to have been at my target weight for some time. I’m fasting tomorrow and hoping to make up to some extent for the fortnight of unrestricted eating when I was away from home. I’d lost 9lb but put 3lb back on. I’m not worried though. Fasting certainly works!

lpb

Bonsoir Cheeseplease – I will enjoy my little ones, you do too. I’ve not seen Max since the beginning of this year! We do try and skype each weekend but it will be so lovely to see him here in France.

As previously mentioned I moved here in 2011 shortly after my daughter and family returned to France; not long after that Max was on his way. Like you when I moved I left behind a lovely group of friends, one whom I have known since we were at college over 40 years ago. I miss their friendship and do try and get ‘up north’ at least once a year – when I do it’s as though we last met a week ago. I also miss where I lived, so near the Lake District, and lovely towns like Harrogate.

Kiwiwiwi – tiny newly-minted babies are lovely; Lea is now 4 months and just beginning to show her personality; and the way her big sister cares for her is very touching. From the moment Chloe was born her mum and I spoke english to her and daddy only ever speaks french. Initially when she began to speak she would mix the two languages and use the word that was easiest at the time, but in a very short time she would switch from speaking english to me and mum, to french to daddy, seamlessly. It really is amazing to hear.
Chloe knows that grandma is learning french and has begun correcting my pronunciation, especially words with ‘r’ – she rolls them beautifully but I still struggle. We also have access to english tv and I have to say that CBeebies are brilliant and have definitely helped Chloe’s language. Of course, when she is at school french is spoken, and the maitresse (very difficult to pronounce) is amazed at her ability to speak two languages; they were worried she would be behind with her french but this has not been the case.
We are now doing the same with Lea so it will be interesting to see how they speak to each other.
I think the girls are so fortunate, learning two languages with ease, and also learning about two cultures. I just love seeing Chloe greet her friends at school by kissing each other on both cheeks, it is so charming.

Time for a cup of tea,
Bonne Nuit,
Femme x

Oh dear playground is right. What a shame!
I’m very new to this and have nothing to lose so here’s my opinion.
There were some fairly judgemental and tactless comments made on the maintainance thread- there’s your first clue. A thread for people who have been successful and are now continuing to control their weight. Think of ex smokers ex pats ex anything – there’s a tendency to be intolerant of others who may be unable to follow suit- I’ve been guilty in the past. Several years ago after a good result at weight watchers a work colleague (who was overweight) seeing me for the first time congratulated me and asked for my ‘ secret’. Partly due to being Scottish and therefore incapable of accepting a compliment gracefully I blurted out-” well it’s not rocket science I just ate less and moved more”. I can still remember the hurt look on my friends face – my bad!!
Takes deep breath
Precious boo boo you seem to have taken these comments very personally and also brought them to everyone’s attention. I and many others wouldn’t have seen them as we are not as yet on maintenance. That I think is the beauty of these forums a group of people with similar interest/age/approach to this wol.
You are an articulate woman of conviction and strong opinion – but please remember it is just that an opinion. Everyone has one and no one is more valid than any other. You have reacted very strongly to a perceived lack of support but your opinion is yours alone.
I’m sorry to see some established members of the group either silenced by the conflict or ‘jumping ship’ especially their post were very amusing and interesting to me. You may not be aware but (in my opinion) the tone of the posts you made directed to them seemed harsh indeed.
The only reason I have taken time to write this post is because when I joined this forum a month ago I was delighted to find a group of supportive women trying to improve their health and well being – and you instigated it!!

Ditto from me Smiffy.

So sorry to see you go and hope you and your partner can support each other in your quest for a healthier lifestyle.

I’m not into playground politics – don’t know what sparked all this but the atmosphere is very chilly and I’m not into offending people accidentally, so it’s also goodbye from me on this thread.

Fortunately there is a wonderful supportive mob in my own backyard on the Southern Hemisphere thread and you’ll find several familiar LOACAs there.

Best wishes everyone and keep up the good work.

To the ladies of a certain age. I am 69. I started the 5:2 one year ago. I was enthused because I wanted to find a way to get lbs off and KEEP them OFF. In 8 months following the 5:2 I lost 24lbs. I continue to use it to keep it off and find it quite easy. The weight came off my rear, thighs mostly as well as arms, legs. I went to a size 8 slacks (American) and size 10 Petite top. My husband lost about 16 lbs and continued so that he could maintain. It looked like he had stabilized at new weight. Well he did, but he dropped another pant’s size to same he wore in college. His upper body did not shrink in the same way. We think that it is true, fat is lost, but not muscle mass. Will say we have our own work out we used previously so there was no change in that. We are both encouraged because we know we can keep the extra lbs off.

Hi Smiffy, NickyF, Hermaj
Oh dear, I feel a real sense of loss. Where will I find you all, have you gone to a particular thread or how about starting another if that won’t work. I shall be so sorry if the wonderful support and online friendship disappears into the ether.

:-((

X

Hi Cheeseplease,

Great to hear from you. Losing touch with people with whom I have so much common ground, specifically you, Nicky and Smiffy, as well as a few other good guys, was my only very genuine regret on leaving LOACA.

Nicky and I have already caught up, I’m trying to remember whether it was on the Maintenance or the Jo-jo thread. If I check now, I’ll automatically delete this post. Also some of our other friends are already posting on threads of mutual interest. We can always catch up with each other, and other cyberbuddies by clicking on Recent Posts or Active Topics.

What a good idea to possibly start a new thread. I won’t volunteer for the moment I’ve got a hell of a lot to turn around today for the day job. But I’ll be more than happy to climb aboard. Howabout calling it “Beyond the playground” – or is that too naughty?

PS Even though I’m avoiding LOACA, I’m still checking the LOACA recipe thread. Some seriously good stuff there, ranging from delicious but 5:2-friendly dishes a to a few naughtier ones for special occasions.

Hello everyone! Boy I missed out on all the excitement (or commotion) here!! I was away for the weekend and still playing catch up but wanted to quickly greet everyone. I’m fasting today and as of last Friday morning was down a total of 4 lbs. I didn’t eat very well over the long weekend as we were at an Antique Sale and Flea Market for a few days and concession stand food isn’t the greatest! I’m not going to disappoint myself and get on the scale until after my two fasts this week. If I’m up, I will be hugely disappointment and likely derail myself! After all these years I know me so well!!

Hope everyone that is fasting today is having a great day (and to those not fasting as well!!)

Newme x

Hi Precious BooBoo and All

I’m soon to become a Nanna so I need to be fit and strong to welcome my baby grandson in December. I’m fasting today. I’ve just eaten my first food of the day – a conference pear. I’m enjoying fruit so much more since I began the fasting WOL. Before I go to my karate class, I will have homemade coleslaw with the barest amount of mayo (1 tsp max) to make it edible (easy on the onion!) and a hard boiled egg. It’s really filling and sustaining. That’ll make about 200 cals so far today so I’ll eat another 200 cals when I get back. My TDEE suggests slightly less than 500 cals for my fast days and I do include a little milk in my coffee.

I used to anticipate fast days with trepidation but now I enjoy the feeling of being in control of my appetite. Looking forward to positive results on the scales tomorrow morning!

lpb