Just to let you know Milena and I are going to the fast beach diet. We start on Monday in case anyone fancy a joining us.

I have just bought the book on kindle 99p and delivered within the minute. In case anybody doesn’t know you can get the kindle app free from the App Store. Also available in countries apart from UK.

I wasn’t going to buy it but for 99p it was too much of a bargain to resist. If you have this version and want the planner to print out let me know and I will post the link here.

Ginette

Sorry I forgot to mention this isn’t your allowance on FBD. Normal rules apply stick within calorie range. Eat what you want but non carbs are best on fast days. You can include vegetables and fruit. You can include carbs but they are calorie dense.

Ginette

Hello all,
Good to catch up with everyone’s posts. Going to try a fast day today…I’m off the steroids and just taking the muscle relaxants, which I think my stomach can tolerate without food. Had a good nights sleep last night with just some minor discomfort in the leg first thing this morning when arising, so healing is happening, just slowly. It took about 6 1/2 weeks when I had something similar 10 years ago…I’m about 4 weeks into this now so I need to be patient. Have started gentle stretching twice a day.
Hope to get a nice walk in today on the beach–this vacation so far has been a bust, no beach, no golf…Oh well, we have had nice visits with family so not a total bust.
Have a good day whether fasting or not.

Fastdiet1115

I am glad that you seem on the mend. When I sprained my leag it was more like 12 weeks but 6 to sleep comfortably. I hope week by week you will see a difference.

Ginette

Tuna Chilli! Just use your usual chilli recipe (for me that’s onions ‘sweated’ in a little water for 10 minutes or so), then add tinned tomatoes (or fresh if in Spain or Sri Lanka for example!), mushrooms, red beans, tomato puree if you want, red/green or yellow peppers, a little sugar (just to take off the acidity of the tomatoes and give a softer flavour, about a desertspoon in a big pan), and a grated carrot or two (yes, carrot!) then cook your spices in a little olive oil – chilli powder (hot or mild depending how you like it), plus any or all of: paprika, garam massala, cayenne pepper (very hot!) and loads of herbs (whatever you like, fresh if poss, but dried is fine). Then, in place of minced beef, use a tin or two of tuna (drained of brine). Very low fat, low cal and lush! Serve either with just a big green salad, or if you like carbs, brown rice or a jacket or sweet potato.
Enjoy!
(Wish I was in the UK to take advantage of the Asda offer!)
Slimmersylv

Slim it was only on offer for that one day. I created a new thread to inform everyone, It’s £3.14 now. I bet there are some free 5:2 cookbooks on kindle, I’m going to search.

Jaye

Hi Slimmersylv, Jaye

Sorry it was that when I posted. It has now gone up to £4.79

Link is here in case it goes down again.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fast-Beach-Diet-super-fast-programme-ebook/dp/B00K1GBDLS/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=&qid=

Maybe it will be lower in the week or am I being optimistic.

Ginette

Wany one else having problems with their tracker today? Mine isn’t there, click on my tracker and its a blank page. 🙁

Thanks Ginette,

it was on here. I deleted my saved page and started fresh and then like magic it was there lol.

Ginette I have started a new thread, hoping someone who’s tuned into HIT can help me adapt the jogging game on wii fit. I’ve done it twice now, first one I documented in the new thread. This time I jogged as fast as I could, without stepping off the board lol 4 times for 10 seconds through the 3 min jog. For me that’s like a 10 min jog to a normal person as I have to lift my leg from my hip to get my left foot jogging lol. Thank God I am doing this at home and alone! What a sight lol.

I have put a tea towel over my Nescafé cappuccinos so I don’t see them an inadvertently make one on NFDs lol. Wow no coffee, no grog! That’s dedication lol.

My Brother has started Fasting today, although just sticking to his TDEE which I worked out for him. He’ll fast tomorrow. Give him all the tips, count and weigh EVERYTHING! even if you cheat do you know when and how much you cheated. Said to not make sugar the forbidden fruit but as a normal food he chooses not to eat each day. Tomorrow if you really want it, have it. But, if you say to yourself agsin that ypu choose not to have it again, fantastic. That’s how I look at cakes, biscuits, chocolate etc. One day at a time I choose not to have it. He gets married Aug 1st (I’m wearing the blue/teal dress). So let’s hope he loses lots.

I need to get that chart working for FBDThink if I use my lsptop instead of my ipad I will be able to edit it?

Hope your fast is going well.

Jaye 🙂

Hi Ginette,

You are such a gadget girl! So am I, loading it now lol.

Hey I gave you duff info on the caffiene. It doesn’t say to not drink it, in fact they think coffee is good for us. It said try to drink it black (uggg). I can manage a filter coffee with maybe 2/3 tablespoons of milk but that’s as good as it gets. I already have it without sugar lol. So…. I am going to continue drinking my cappuccinos. I like to have milk in my diet for calcium and if I don’t have a coffee I don’t have any. I can easily incorporate a med cap at 102 cals at Costa.

How are you adapting your exercise to HIT. I’m coming at it from no exercise, just very short walking in my everyday life.

Is there an app to count our steps on iPhone?

Jaye 🙂

That’s not correct about the Nescafé cappuccino, Ginette. Unless there is a 3rd kind. . The skinny one is 54 and the Unsweetened cappuccino is 56. It says on the box and it’s listed in MyFitnesspal too. I have one most NFDs with lunch. I never put sugar in a cappuccino but if I had filter coffee I used too until I started this. But it’s rare I would drink filter.

As for the treats I think you have to battle that with your mind. If your having bang on 500 cals on a FD and you make healthy good choices, ie meat, none starchy veg, salads, minimal carbs and NO sugar the next day should really curb your sweet tooth? I think if you could look at sweets as ‘normal foods’, not forbidden or bad foods but something that you just should not have every day or every couple of days and enjoy fruit and greek yogurt as a nice snack you would find that you can break your addiction to sugar. Please don’t tell yourself sugar is good for stress, that’s just a bad excuse for you to indulge and spoil your great progress. A well balanced diet is good for stress, exercise and talking, even coffee lol but not sugar, not in any world. You love it because you are addicted, just thinking about not having a ‘treat’ makes you feel you are struggling. How about 1/2 times a week on specific days you ‘choose’ to eat something that is sweet. Get it out of your mind that it’s a treat, or something to look forward to or can’t live without. Attempt to make eating sweet things normal to have once or twice a week and try not to have it the day after a fast. Give yourself 2 full days without something sugary. What’s the worst thing that would happen to you if I came and took everything sweet out of your home. Left you with only fruit, veg, salad, meats, fish, greek yoghurt, some cheese, coffee, tea and said you are banned from bringing anything else into the house? You can do it Ginette, I have done it. 2 desserts in 10 weeks. I love sugar too, I could have cake or biscuits most days, I actively choose to have something else. Don’t see it as not choosing to have it but choosing to have something else. How about mini light Babybels, 42 cals each, or the odd unsweetened jelly? Have that instead of something sweet. Look for other things to replace it. I promise your weight loss will increase if you can get your head around cutting down on sweet things. Look how far you have come already. Let the fasting process help you to eat a more normal way, where sweet things are few and far between because your brain has trained your body to eat because you are hungry and not because the cakes are calling. ️Break the sugar cycle Ginette, this 6 weeks will really help you as we are not supposed to have any. Hey the odd Nescafé cappuccino would be good. Milky things tend to taste sweet. I’m giving up Alcohol lol you give up sweet things. At the end of 6 weeks it will be an occasional thing we eat/drink and won’t be bothered by it.

I’ve got that app but I can’t figure out how to set it up for my exercise lol. Found a step counter too.

Jaye 🙂

I think the key is MODERATE eating on non fast days. I have been eating moderately for years and unable to lose any weight. I am 77 and I am thick around the middle, have always been fairly slim except for that. My TDEE is 1519 calories and I am eating around 1100 – 1113 calories on non-fast days. My goal was to lose 10 lbs and I have lost 7 in two months. I eat some protein with every meal, some fruit as well. Small portions, no snacks. Small portions is key. 3 oz of meat for example. Lots of lettuce and normal amounts of vegetables, and not many carbs. Fruit for dessert. My only problem has been constipation, and that means eating prunes and psyllium, and stool softener daily, but that keeps things moving pretty well but not great.

Go with what they say on the package. I watched a show and they tested loads of packaged food to check if the calories were right. They were all either correct or 10% more or less. I think that’s pretty good so go with the package. I tend to scan things into MyFitnesspal because if you go on what others put as a calorie count for their food it’s often different. So if I have chicken from Lidl, I scan the pack, weigh the chicken I’m having and put it in that way. Chicken differs from store to store. It is all very confusing and annoying.

The point about feeling deprived is just that, and I am saying this in general, not just to you, why should sweet things be so important that we feel deprived if we don’t have it regularly? You wouldn’t feel deprived if someone limited green beans in your daily food plan lol. Maybe it’s just me, but I never again want to feel controlled by food, have a desperate need to eat sweet foods or feel deprived if I choose not to have any at all for weeks. I want it to be very much less important to me. We saw how those 4 custard creams blew a huge hole in a TDEE. That was the purpose of me starting this way of life. Not to incorporate things that gave me more cravings in my daily life but to learn that I could be completely content choosing not to have it. That’s why it’s all built around how insulin works in our bodies and how sweets things upset it. I want to have a bit of cake at a birthday party of special occasion, not as a ‘goto’ food. I don’t want to be addicted to and controlled by carbs and sugar, I now control them. I meet my sisters and instead of having coffee and cake we just have coffee. When we met for cake we all just got fatter by the week lol. However, this is just how I choose to see it and my personal views.

Jaye 🙂

Hi Helen

There is a diabetes thread. There are some brilliant results as well.

Just have a look at popular threads. Good luck I know people on the other thread have worked with their doctors and have managed to reduce or even stop medication. Obviously take full advice from your doctor and I hope you find. Way of working around it.

I would love to know how you are doing so keep posting here.

Ginette

Oh poor Fran

What a lot of worries. I had a week with no loss at all. It just happens.

Maybe the surgeon will calm your fears. There has to be a positive to this. The sooner it’s over the better for you. Stress can really build up so try to manage it with blocking tactics.

My thought are with you.

Ginette

Hi fastdiet1115

There’s a result. You must be so pressed not to have gained.

I do 500. Sometimes just under, this isn’t far from what it works out at anyway.

Good luck with the golf, I hope you get round, just listen to your body.

Three fast days will certainly give you a good loss.

Ginette

Hahaha! you are so funny milena, and precise, 393 calories, how can you possibly know the count so accurately?

Fastdiet – I don’t count calories. On fast days I eat as little as possible. No breakfast, a tiny slice of ham, or fuet with 4 olives for dinner, then thin vegetable soup for tea. I follow this with a liquids only day, which is probably 50 calories absolute max. I then eat and drink whatever I like, with gay abandon for the rest of the week. Mind you, what I like has changed dramatically since pre 5:2. It works for me.

I am not sure as she was going to get Mums first and then for two weeks holiday. She will be in a couple of weeks.

Ginette

Jaye – to answer your question, I have lost 25lbs since 5/1/15. My weight loss is slowing now to 1 or 2 pounds per week as I do not have quite so much to lose. I am now 9st 1lb.

Suo – Sorry but if you are not losing weight you are consuming too many calories. Hunger can be due to sugar consumption, remember sugar is also found in milk – lactose. To kill the hunger, ditch the sugar!

@Suo, please count your calories on you NFDs, it will help to see where you might be going wrong. It’s proved that guessing at calories even when you think you are getting it right tends to be out by a few hundred by the end of the day. So that’s your first check point. Secondly, as Applepie said, ditch the sugar, even on the milk, stay off carbs on fast days or have small amounts in your final meal. Myself and others find it easier to only eat once in the day later in the evening, 7/8pm. It’s funny how you easily get used to not having to think of food for an entire day if you have your evening meal planned and you don’t eat at all. Hunger can be ignored and will go away once you stop thinking about it and have a drink. You could try some miso soup, bought from Asda or Tesco in the Oriental aisle. It’s only 18 cals a sachet and because it’s beefy makes you feel satiated. TDEE is the calories your body needs to just sit all day and do nothing… so say yours is 1800 and you ate all those, if you moved around then you would use a bit more from your fat stores. If you reduce them by 1/2/300 then of course your body uses more from it storage’s. One thing some do is reduce their cals to what they would be at maintenance. Keep in mind when you do this although you lose faster you will also gain easily when you go over the limited amount on a couple of days. According to this diet there is no such thing as under eating. The only thing that should tell you that you are under eating is if you are hungry and not eating to satiate it.

Try to keep your mind active on fast days as much as possible and keep drinking, water, sparkling water or soda water with a slice of lemon and an ice cube is lovely. Caffeine free tea/herbal tea, black coffee or with a splash of milk.

@cmac read the above. I don’t actually know what you have said in your first sentence lol so I can’t comment on it. If you are gaining weight then you are going over your TDEE, the only other thing could be that you have gained a great deal of muscle in the last 6 weeks? Are you clothes looser, are your measurements smaller? If not then you are either over eating or it is something to do with what the first sentence says? Fasting is basics maths, calories in verses calories out. Eat less than your TDEE and fast for 500 cals or less for 2 days and you will lose. If you eat more than your TDEE on NFDs you will undo the good work you did on fast days and gain if you have eaten enough. Check your sugar levels, are you eating more than you think. Look at the sugars in your bread, milk, cereals and foods you are eating out and preparing at home. There are hidden sugars everywhere. The RDA for sugar is now 24g=6 tsp. That is including what’s in your food before you even start on what you put in your drinks etc. I hope you find out what the problem is.

Applepie, wow.. fantastic. I can’t wait to be your size lol. A very well done to you.

Ginette, it does actually ask you to put your ‘bone size’ in on the app!

Fasting today, shouldn’t be any problems, I enjoy fast day. I will eat tonight at 8pm.

Good luck Ginette and anyone fasting today and stay on track you TDEEers lol.

Time to jump on the scales…. the ones that weight my one stone heavier than my old ones!!!

Jaye 🙂

Hi Applepie

You HAVE done well. Maybe need to update profiles to show accumulated loss every two or three months. I say this as you don’t have a lot to lose now. When you are very overweight it should be easier.

Cmac

I would agree with what Jeye has said and using a calorie counter is eye opening. Try this and see if it helps. There is also a thread for those who have/have had cancer. Maybe you can get a lot of help from here.

You need to include drinks as well. I will be interested to see how you do.

Ginette

Cmac

Yours is indeed a strange tale. Maybe go to see your doctor and see if she/he can help. It is puzzling. I do know that I always gain at this time of the year due to excess fluid. Maybe you are doing the same.

Just a thought. I know because my watch has tightened and I have swollen ankles.

I hope you resolve it.

Ginette

Thanks both. Good advice. No harm in getting the GP to check out that there’s nothing else going on.

The link to the symptoms of hypothyroidism is very interesting and rings bells. And I’m also wondering about ovarian cancer (thanks for nothing Dr Google!).

Anyroad, next stop my friendly local GP.

Claire

These are recipes for 300cal 5:2 meals.

There are 50 of them so a good chance you can find something you like. Link below:

http://www.womanmagazine.co.uk/food/slimmer-dinners-meals-under-300-calories/

Ginette

Cmac, don’t self diagnose, you can have over 100 different things wrong with you if you do that lol. We ALL have symptoms of lots of illnesses that we don’t have! You can also suddenly believe you have symptoms you don’t have just by reading them. Sorry, I gave you the link simply as a check list as it is a small possibility that its the thyroid which sometimes is the cause of lack of weight loss if you are not cheating on a weight loss plan. It wasn’t for me when I had mine checked. please don’t let reading on the Internet make you paranoid. Doctors hate us walking in there sayin I read this on the net, I have it lol.

Good luck.

Jaye 🙂