The trouble with breakfasts

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  • Hi, I have just started 5:2 and have bought the cookbook, but find most difficulty with breakfast. I have always eaten fruit plus muesli or toast, but most of the breakfast ideas involve cooking. My husband thinks this is great, but I do not want to be chopping, flavouring and spending time cooking on a fast day. Is fruit a definite no go (eg a banana or 1/2 grapefruit)?

    Hi Nanajan,

    As far as I know, there are no definite “no-nos” on this diet.

    I am eating the same cold cereal breakfast that I usually do. It is approx. 200 cals. including dried cranberries and low fat milk.

    This diet is not only easy to stay on but easy to get the food ready. Figure out the 500 cals for the day and eat them however you want, except possibly snacking all day. So 1 meal, 2 meals or 2 meals and a snack.

    The whole appeal to me is the health benefits and then the weight loss. But what makes it work is how easy it is to do and stick to it.

    If you haven’t read Michael and Mini’s book, you should get it. A lot of the questions that come up on the forum are answered in the book. And it is VERY inspiring. I have read it twice and really never looked at the recipes. I figured out 1 or 2 meals for the evening food and have basically been eating those for 14 weeks now. I’m sure that as the weather gets cold, I will look for some kind of soup/stew to make.

    You can do this. Keep in mind, the easier it is to do, the more likely you will stick with it.

    Good luck.
    Quick

    hi Nanajan welcome wish u success 🙂

    1/4 cup Shredded Wheat’N Bran Cereal squares 41 cal
    this has no salt. very high whole grain 57% more than muesli

    1/4 cup flax milk Unsweetened 6 cal
    (literally delicious. 4 me ugh all other alternative milk)

    or unsalted pistachios 3 cals 15 r 45 cals

    & any of these

    Negative Calorie Foods/ Calorie Free Foods
    FRUITS
    A: Apples, Apricots
    B: Blackberries, Blueberries
    C: Cantaloupe, Cherries, Cranberries, Currants
    Figs
    D: Damson Plum
    G: Grape, Grapefruit
    H: Honeydew, Huckleberries
    K: Kiwi, Kumquats
    L: Lemons/Limes, Loganberry
    Mangos
    Nectarines
    Oranges
    P: Papaya, Peaches, Pears, Pineapple,
    Pomegranates Prunes
    Raspberries
    Strawberries
    Tangerines
    Watermelon

    or fat free ricotta w/ fruits above

    hope this helps

    Hi Wiltldnr,

    Great list of food. Will you please explain what you mean by “no calorie/negative calorie” foods?

    Quick

    thanks Nanajan

    means a food whose calorie level is low enough that it takes more energy to eat and digest it than the food contains.

    I have added this list over time. there is probably more

    i’m also doing a good list of good fat

    the highest nutritious food that has the most wide range of vitamins minerals etc

    here is a partial list

    VEGETABLES
    A: Artichoke, Arugula, Asparagus
    B: Bean sprouts Beets, Beet Greens, Broccoli, Brussels sprouts
    C: Cabbage, Carrots, Cauliflower,
    Celeriac (turnip-rooted celery), Celery,
    Chervil (French Parsley), Chicory, Chile Peppers,
    Chives, Chinese Cabbage, Corn, Cucumber
    Dandelion Greens
    E: Eggplant, Endive
    Fennel
    G: Garden Cress, Garlic, Green Beans
    Hot Chili
    Jicama
    K: Kale, Kelp, Kohlrabi (part of the cabbage family)
    L: Leeks, Lettuce
    M: Mushrooms, Mustard Greens, Marrow
    O: Okra, Onions
    P: Parsley, Parsnips, Peas, Peppers, Pickles,
    Pumpkins
    R: Radishes, Rappini (Broccoli Raab), Red bell pepper,
    Red Cabbage, Rhubarb, Rutabagas
    S: Sauerkraut, Scallion, sEAWEED Shallots, Sorrel, Spinach,
    String Beans, Squash
    T: Tomato, Turnips
    Watercress
    Zucchini

    FRUITS
    A: Apples, Apricots
    B: Blackberries, Blueberries
    C: Cantaloupe, Cherries, Cranberries, Currants
    Figs
    D: Damson Plum
    G: Grape, Grapefruit
    H: Honeydew, Huckleberries
    K: Kiwi, Kumquats
    L: Lemons/Limes, Loganberry
    Mangos
    Nectarines
    Oranges
    P: Papaya, Peaches, Pears, Pineapple,
    Pomegranates Prunes
    Raspberries
    Strawberries
    Tangerines
    Watermelon

    SEAFOOD
    Abalone
    Bass
    C: Catfish, Clams, Cod, Crabs, Crayfish
    Flounder
    Mussels
    Oysters
    S: Sea Bass, Shrimp
    T: Trout, Tuna

    Negative Calorie Nuts: Almonds, Barcelona nuts, Brazil nuts, chestnuts, coconuts, filberts, hazelnuts, macadamias, peanuts, pine nuts, pistachios, walnuts

    OTHER
    Frog legs
    coffee
    tea

    SPICES
    Anise, Cayenne, Chili peppers, Cinnamon, Cloves, Coriander/Cilantro, Cumin, Dill, Fennel seeds, Flax seeds, Garden cress, Garlic, Ginger, Parsley, Paprika, Onion, Mustard seeds, tumeric, Watercress

    GOOD FATS
    Monounsaturated fat Polyunsaturated fat

    Olive oil
    Canola oil
    Sunflower oil
    Peanut oil
    Sesame oil

    Avocados
    Olives

    Nuts (almonds, peanuts, macadamia nuts, hazelnuts, pecans, cashews)
    Peanut butter
    Almond butter

    Soybean oil
    Corn oil
    Safflower oil

    Walnuts
    Sunflower, sesame, and pumpkin seeds
    Flaxseed

    Fatty fish (salmon, tuna, mackerel, herring, trout, sardines)
    Soymilk
    Tofu

    Oil, vegetable, sunflower, high oleic (70% and over)
    Monounsaturated Fat: 19g

    2
    Oil, vegetable safflower, salad or cooking, linoleic, (over 70%)
    Polyunsaturated Fat: 17g

    3
    Oil, vegetable, grapeseed
    Polyunsaturated Fat: 16g

    4
    Salad dressing, mayonnaise, soybean and safflower oil, with salt
    Polyunsaturated Fat: 15g

    5
    Flaxseed oil
    Polyunsaturated Fat: 15g

    Fullness Factors for Common Foods
    Food FF

    Bean sprouts 4.6

    More filling
    per Calorie

    Watermelon 4.5
    Grapefruit 4.0
    Carrots 3.8
    Oranges 3.5
    Fish, broiled 3.4
    Chicken breast, roasted 3.3
    Apples 3.3
    Sirloin steak, broiled 3.2
    Oatmeal 3.0
    Popcorn 2.9
    Baked potato 2.5
    Lowfat yogurt 2.5
    Banana 2.5

    FrFoods that are high in nutrients:

    fruits
    Berries
    Pineapples
    Apricots
    Kiwis
    Figs
    Vegetables
    Avocado
    Mushrooms
    Egg plant
    Tomatoes
    Beans and Pulses
    Chickpeas
    Peas
    Kidney beans
    Lentils
    Grains
    Quinoa
    Whole wheat
    Eggs
    Fish
    Fresh water salmon
    Tuna
    Mackerel
    Sardines
    Nuts
    Brazil nuts
    Almonds
    Flaxseed
    Pumpkin seeds
    Soya products
    Tofu
    Soya beans
    Soya dairy products
    Seaweed
    Tea

    the healthiest food

    http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php

    has a great list

    figured if i’m doing 500 cals on fastdays might as well do it w/ the healthiest

    u can also go 2 amazon & download free ebooks
    i downloaded over 20 ebooks of cooking, diet books, including 5:2 recipe ebooks

    free 🙂

    oops meant to say thanks 2 Quick

    Hi Nanajan,
    Do you like cottage cheese? I sometimes have this for breakfast on a fast day as you can get fat free versions that are low in calories and it mixes well with fruit or salad veg if you find it a bit boring. Or I segment a pink grapefruit the night before or hard boil an egg and pop it in the fridge.
    WiltldnrUSA,
    That is a massive list of free food. I always count these things in my calories for fast and non fast days. Things like apples are almost 100 cals. I don’t think I can ignore that. Shouldn’t they be counted? Are you saying they are free? I’m confused. Your advice is welcome.
    Thanks,
    Manders

    Hi, wiltldnrUSA – Sorry, but I have to differ here. There are no negative-calorie foods – it is a much-desired but mythical concept (although the manufacturers of Zero Noodles do make big claims for their product, so maybe that is the nearest thing). Most especially, nuts (unsalted) are a nutritious source of good fats but all are very calorie-dense. I agree that the foods you quote may be very good nutritionally and healthy choices in a diet geared to weight-loss but none of them contain negative calories, I’m afraid. So, I think you may need to revise the lists you use.

    There Are No Negative-Calorie Foods – By Dr. Nancy Snyderman, Wednesday, May 06, 2009
    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1896439_1896359_1896346,00.html

    Who, What, Why: Can foods have negative calories? By Kate Dailey BBC News Magazine, 15 March 2013:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21723312

    wow did not know that jeanius interesting thought that has been around 4 years

    especially celery

    You Can Lose More in Cold Weather i always thought the other

    i still do not eat unlimited still calorie count
    just figure any thing can help

    thanks

    hi Manders74

    i count all cals always, however, c jeanius comments i stand corrected on free & neg foods cal foods

    Fullness Factors that what ff means the other list above

    it really does fill me up on fastday it goes a very long way

    Apple

    small (2 1/2 across)
    Total Calories: 55

    medium (2 1/2 across)
    Total Calories: 72

    large (3 1/4 across)
    Total Calories:110

    hope this helps

    as u can c i’m up way 2 late

    sometimes i can not sleep one of the side effect of the fastday
    2 much energy which is still cool & then i sleep real well never know

    Hi Wiltldnr and everyone else who has contributed.

    Thanks for the list of foods and all of the info. about them. I will still count the calories on fast day as I think the point of fasting is to have little or nothing on those two days.

    If I were only doing this diet for weight loss it might be different but since my main goal is health I plan to stick with counting cals. on fast days and NOT counting on non-fast days. But I do plan to use your list for foods to eat on non-fast days. Better for me I’m sure than sweets.

    Well Nanajan, as you can see lots of choices and no restrictions except the 500 cals. on fast days. You DON’T have to cook breakfast. <G>

    I’m sure all of your friends and family will be seeing less of you soon.

    Quick

    hi quick,

    i agree always count the cals on nonfastdays 2 500 or less or none

    as i said b4 we should fast4life our body deserves it

    Wow, thanks everyone for all the suggestions. I don’t believe the concept of negative calorie or free foods, but good luck if it works for you.

    @wiltldnrusa
    “Negative Calorie Nuts: Almonds, Barcelona nuts, Brazil nuts, chestnuts, coconuts, filberts, hazelnuts, macadamias, peanuts, pine nuts, pistachios, walnuts ”

    More negative nuts is the upcoming movie: Nut Job

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SHyzPUc3YYQ

    ..and finding food.

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