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  • Hi AO, good to hear from you. I hope all is well and that your arm is OK now.

    HCB, you’ve just made me laugh, it’s Silver Surfer not Surfboard 😆

    RT, I should still be at work but I’d have been completely insane by now so I gave it up as it was becoming life threatening 😉

    The only problem with not working is that every night is Friday night (don’t have to get up early tomorrow) and every morning is Saturday morning (no work today and none tomorrow) so I never know what day it is 😉

    Oh, I thought that was a benefit of retirement Amazon! ☺
    Getting to sleep in makes it SO much easier to avoid breakfast. Although today we were up at 6am to pack up and drive home. Another benefit of fasting. …no wasting time on eating. Just make a black coffee and take it with us. 😊
    Have a nice day earning a quid, RT. ☺ P

    Morning all from Melbourne, cold and windy today but having a ‘home’ day with intentions of fasting complemented by catching up with housework.
    Another one here who does not get paid any more! Still do lots of unpaid work in the form of above mentioned house cleaning, cooking, washing, ironing, gardening BUT no one to report to and I choose my hours! Sleep ins a big bonus – wouldn’t swap places with anyone! I think it was due after 43 years of shift work (nursing)!
    RT if you don’t mind me referring to your age, if you plan on working another 17 yrs, you are either going to work until you are 70 or you had your children when you were a teenager…..
    AO lovely to hear from you and that you are ok. And great that you have not given up fasting.
    Amazon your day at Wimbledon sounded fabulous, nothing like a live Centre Court match is there? The food sounded fantastic too!
    Welcome LS, we love to hear of new (to here) peoples experiences – we are all here to support each other but also to learn.
    Safe trip home Purple. I agree with the fasting saving time in the mornings!
    Time for some (unpaid) work! Using the patented Bayleaf method …… hope your trip to Hawaii is wonderful Bay! I think you were leaving today….. or it could have been last Thursday, time flies when you are having fun.

    Goodbye tension, Hello Pension- that’s the way to go.

    Don’t get ‘lay ins’ very often though because I have two dogs who pester me constantly until they have had their walk. Not complaining I love to get out in the fresh air.

    Amazon- tennis was great today but pity about the weather on the outside courts.

    I got rained upon during my bowls match but we pushed on through, not winning though, out bowled. Better luck tomorrow with the Ladies team.

    Great fast day today but lots of functions over next few days so pressure on.

    Hi team when I hit submit I did ponder the wisdom of using the terminology of “work” and knowingly left myself open there 😳 that said we are all on the same page I reckon. Sorry AO of course I knew that and Emel and Nicky my SA fast friends are on a pay roll to so really shot myself in the foot hey oh well you get that on the big jobs 😉 Nama you spot on 70 or bust for me of course 70 is the new 60 when you eat fast & live longer in good health.
    RT

    Ha ha RT and by the time we get there, 70 will be the new 50!!
    My husband officially retired a couple of years ago, but he is of the ‘not able to sit still’ type, so still works at least a couple of days a week. He contracts to the firm he worked for for years. He needs the mental stimulation and as he does not know how any cleaning tools work, or how to turn on the oven or washing machine, this arrangement suits us. I think men of his generation get a big part of their self image from their work, so its hard to stop. Women have flexed in and out of work for years, around children and other commitments, so I think we often have less of ourselves ‘invested’ in our employment. I am prepared to take a hit from Womens Lib advocates here – I know the current generation have a completely different attitude and work/life mix. I love seeing both my sons contribute to cooking and cleaning, only fair if wives are contributing to the mortgage! Rambling now ….. time to get the vaccuum out!

    Nama that was just a classic 😆 great words play and I did indeed laugh out loud too. “and as he does not know how any cleaning tools work, or how to turn on the oven or washing machine”
    I have to agree completely us men folk place a great deal of emphasis on the employment and job scene very over rated however in IMO I could not help but think of this gem which may help illustrate and highlight areas some men need to improve in. lol
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOE_J9DZq4o
    Enjoy

    Are late retirements connected with living in South Australia?
    I’ve left Mr P to practice housekeeping (unpacking from our trip) while I flit off to the city for some kultcha!!! As it should be! P ☺

    RT – lolololololol! Good thing someone told me to start doing keegle exercises 🙄! You Guys are so smart and I hope you know what I mean 😂😂😂😂. That old fart w/ the vacuum cleaner it’s for sure my OH. Can’t stop laughing Lol. It’s gonna go to my Fabebook page.
    💖

    Hilarious RT! My bloke is actually an engineer and can figure anything out if he tries, just never needed to! And to cook I think you need to be creative and he certainly is not that! Love the Youtube clip.

    Well my OH does know how to use a vacuum cleaner, he hasn’t yet worked out how to wind the power lead up or put the vacuum cleaner away though…

    He also knows how to take crockery off the drainer. He doesn’t yet transfer things to cupboards, as he is practicing stacking on the worktops. I’m hoping he’ll work out that side plates and bowls are better stacked (like with like) on top of, rather than under, dinner plates 🙂

    RT, I have only another 20 years to go til I can officially fall inelegantly from the hamster wheel of work. I’m hoping finances will allow me to stop a bit earlier. OH is older than me – if I work til I’m 66 I may go straight into wiping drool and pushing his bath chair 🙁

    Hi Nama,
    I am in the same boat. My husband can cook one signature dish, macaroni cheese. He has had to learn to use the washing machine because he runs out of clothes when I am away otherwise. But all other cleaning tools remain untouched. He retires next year but will devote himself to writing so I doubt much will change. I love to see my son cooking and cleaning and accepting his 50/50 lifestyle as his partner also works full time. When I worked full time I was still the person doing home chores unless I paid for help. At least we can both use the petrol mower, now a petrol driven vacuum as shown on the utube clip, hilarious, adds a new cordless dimension. Who could afford to clean their carpets if they had to buy petrol.
    It was my last ‘games evening’ hosted at my house last night so my guests turned up with wine, flowers and titbits. I had one glass of red even though it was a fast day, seemed churlish to say ‘no’. We played Mascarade ( a mime game) and Sequence. Both games were lots of fun.
    HealthCoachB, JJ from Tech contacted me, he wanted a different email address from me before he could send it to you, hopefully it will now work.

    Hello everybody, tried to fast from Monday tea to Thursday brerakfast, which would have been 58 hours, but gave in last night at about 7pm and had a curry, so just a 48 hour fast instead. I worked out that at the rate my body burns calories I have missed out on about a third of a pound of fat not lost due to finishing my fast early. Still, if I’m losing about 4lbs a week due to fasting and cycling then a third of a pound is not a big deal.

    I’m a man living on my own so it is fortunate that I know how to use the washing machine and the vacuum cleaner and can cook my own meals. I was taught to do all this by my mother when I was younger because my father was one of the old school types who never helped with the cleaning or babies and expected his dinner on the table at 6pm when he came home from work, even if my mother had been out all day working too. My mother had the foresight to realise that one day she would be old and would not be able to do it herself, so it was perfectly acceptable to expect me to come round once a week to do it for her.

    By the way RT, the balls from the saying ‘freeze the balls off a brass monkey’ is not rude. A brass monkey was a triangular brass stand with raised edges which held cannon balls in a pyramid shape on warships in the 18th century and when it got cold the brass would shrink and the cannon balls would fall off and roll over the deck.

    Have a good fast day if it’s today, don’t forget the ice cold water.

    Morning all,

    Sunshine and heat this morning so hopefully some tennis will be played before the showers arrive later.

    In my experience all men know how to use washing machines, vaccum cleaners etc but many of them have a special gene which helps them seek out and find a woman who will do it for them……… 😉

    I slept in (again) which like Nama is something that is a real treat after so many years of getting up at all hours doing shifts etc. I’ve done the grocery shopping and am now multi tasking as while I type I am also making yoghurt, cleaning the dishwasher and doing some laundry. All this work is making me thirsty so I think I’ll make myself some coffee 😃😆

    Have a good weekend everybody 😜

    Haha….catching up with the recent posts has made me giggle!

    Im lucky to have a partner who does more than his share around the house, probably a lot more but thats fine as its his way on contributing to the house as he cant contribute financially.

    We are both out of work, but Im fortunate to have some savings to fall back on.
    Now Ive turned 51, I dont really want to return to a full time stressful job, nor does he, so we are starting up some self employed stuff.

    Happy Thursday 🙂

    Very intetesting to hear about the men. 😊 Im not sure the magical age of cultural shift (as there are always exceptions like our SlimJim) but city men of my age, snd education seem to all share the house and baby work. Now country folk or the very religious seem to still work with more traditional dividing lines.

    Alas, my husband is much better at all things domestic, cleaning, cooking, laundry. And i am better at making money. Before children we actually had money and a clean house. But once we had children and there was no way to trade that job as well as breastfeeding, we’ve had a sloppy house and never enough money. Such is life. If i go back to full time doctor-ing, ill never see my children. Rather be poor. But let none say im not working, its a 24 hr day job, hardest ive ever had. Clients are very tough.

    Decent fast yesterday 15.5 hours, then 570 calories, now waiting another 16 hours before i break fast on a good veg soup. Ill take it.

    Good fasting everyone.

    Hi all,
    Busy day as usual, choir, dog walking, ladies bowls match(really good win) and finally catching up on the tennis. Shame about Konta but Andy did not disappoint.
    It’s been a tough day food wise, lots of temptation.

    My hubby has always been very involved with the boys, and keeps the house in “staples”. I do the menu planning and buy the specific things I need for meals, but if I give him a grocery list he shops. AND when I cook dinner, he cleans up.

    And my father was quite the same. When my mother became to incapacitated to cook, my father started collecting recipes.

    Happy that was a fantastic description of a dismount from the wheel of work and slimjim thanks for the extra information over the brass monkey shenanigans and for tiding up the balls for me 😉
    CONFUCIUS DID NOT SAY……
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO WANTS PRETTY NURSE MUST BE PATIENT.
    >>>
    >>> PASSIONATE KISS, LIKE SPIDER WEB, LEADS TO UNDOING OF FLY.
    >>>
    >>> LADY WHO GOES CAMPING WITH MAN MUST BEWARE OF EVIL INTENT.
    >>>
    >>> SQUIRREL WHO RUNS UP WOMAN’S LEG WILL NOT FIND NUTS.
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO LEAPS OFF CLIFF JUMPS TO CONCLUSION.
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO RUNS IN FRONT OF CAR GETS TIRED, BUT MAN WHO RUNS BEHIND CAR
    >>> GETS EXHAUSTED.
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO EATS MANY PRUNES GET GOOD RUN FOR MONEY.
    >>>
    >>> WAR DOES NOT DETERMINE WHO IS RIGHT; IT DETERMINES WHO IS LEFT.
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO FIGHTS WITH WIFE ALL DAY GET NO PIECE AT NIGHT.
    >>>
    >>> IT TAKES MANY NAILS TO BUILD A CRIB, BUT ONLY ONE SCREW TO FILL IT.
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO DRIVES LIKE HELL IS BOUND TO GET THERE.
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO STANDS ON TOILET IS HIGH ON POT.
    >>>
    >>> WISE MAN DOES NOT KEEP SLEDGE HAMMER AND SLOW COMPUTER IN SAME ROOM.
    >>>
    >>> MAN WHO LIVES IN GLASS HOUSE SHOULD CHANGE CLOTHES IN BASEMENT.
    >>>
    >>> AND, CONFUCIUS DID NOT SAY. . .”A LION WILL NOT CHEAT ON HIS WIFE, BUT
    >>> TIGER WOOD!”
    >
    Have A Happy Weekend All You beautiful Losers 😆
    Peace RT

    Morning RT! 😂😂😂😂
    You really nailed it this morning! Mr P and I are crying tears of laughter 😂😂
    You certainly made our Friday morning. …so needed in Aus this morning, with the election tomorrow!!
    Have a great weekend everyone.
    P (and Mr P) 😆😅😂😃😄

    Oh, I agree, P. Best yet, RT, loved them 🙂 🙂 And Tiger Wood – priceless!!

    I have an OH who works very hard at not helping around the house 🙁 He’s out working long hours, but as RT noted, I’m one still in paid employment. No end of that in sight, enjoy the mental stimulation, social interaction and MONEY. At least we do the shopping together, and he mows the lawns. K-Lo, you are an example of women marrying men like their fathers 🙂

    Just about to break my Thursday fast (nearly midday Friday here – love the day off!) I continue to bounce around 1 kg range with two strict fasts and no real limits (but skipping some breakfasts, and sensible most of the time) on the other five. I’m at maintenance, for the newcomers.

    Have a great weekend, everyone. And go Marina Erakovic, into the third round at Wimbledon (NZer, in case you are interested). Tennis is not a strong sport here at the moment.

    Funny RT!

    Happy Friday new friends, I’m hittin’ the hay. Nite.

    Good Morning All,
    Another grey day and mood to match. Trying to pick myself up as a busy weekend planned. Still trying to tame my back garden, very overgrown borders.

    I need a motivation injection, if only it existed.

    Fasting today as went a bit mad last night, boredom eating, mostly healthy stuff but too much for sure. The problem with having exciting things like choral concerts last weekend is the ‘down’ after the event. But my Cornwall trip is on the horizon then shortly after is Folk Week and Wiwi’s visit so I have a lot to look forward to in July and August. Hoping to see Smithy in August too, how exciting! Oh and HCB is due in London soon I think! Game to meet Amazon? What could we do? Haven’t been on the London Eye for yonks!

    Off to buy some new trainers today and possibly a few more plants.

    Wee- Hope Jim still on the mend and your health is improving.

    Have a great weekend Fasters.

    Morning/evening all,

    It has been raining but the sun is out now and it should clear up in time for tennis, alhough there is a risk of he occasional shower this afternoon.

    Jo, I’m not in London the week that HCB is due to be here so I you’ll have to sample some of the delights of this wonderful city without me.

    I hope you have a good time in Cornwall. We didn’t get to St Ives as we ran out of time. You’ll love all the really fresh fish and seafood on offer. I didn’t gain any weight by only eating lunch and dinner and having things like cream teas or pub food such as crab sarnies for lunch and sticking to fish and seafood for dinner. I did have the occasional mid afternoon ice cream and a couple of desserts along with wine and/or a G&T every day and sometimes a half of local ale with my pub lunch but I managed to get the balance right and it is a good template for me on my next holiday.

    I’m still suffering from the after effects of horrible blisters due to the shoes I wore to Wimbledon. My feet were uncomfortable but not particularly sore so I was rather surprised to see the damage when I removed them 😮
    The good news is that I can now walk properly 🙂

    RT, thanks for the Friday funnies 😅😅😅

    Have a good one everybody 😜

    Good Morning,
    No kidding! It’s been a bit warm but gorgeous days. Well, I tell myself that everyday it’s a good day.
    Yesterday I ran like a mad woman! The house it’s in good shape… I mean very clean and the guest room waiting for my cousin who’s in Spsin and coming to the US and then we go together to London.
    Also we were doing the fine touches on the rental, came home and left to the together with some girls. Two of the celebrating their birthdays. This is my effort to be more social. Otherwise I would so tired and go no where. I had a ball 👏👏👏👏
    Thursday would’ve been my Fast otherwise will be postponed to Saturday. Prior to it, I eat dinner early and minimum alcohol. I need to be mentally in place for success.
    On my NFD I prefer my coffee w/ milk and push food for later when I feel hungry.
    Still to finish laundry, ironing, food shopping(tomorrow) and yoga later.

    Tigerwoods lol that was the best.

    See you later FastFasters 😘

    Hi all,
    Sun is shining brightly but similar to Jojo, I’m having, as they say in German, a biologisches Tief. Sounds so much more non permanent than depression. I could say dark mood as Jojo says, but it feels more numb than dark. Hormones? A month fasting and plateau on weight loss? Summer servitude driving kids to do fun things, while I sit bored? Sitting at the pool with my 6 year old and moms 10 years younger – looking all perky and fit? Not sure, but it came upon me yesterday and I can’t seem to shake it. 😐

    I don’t think it’s helping that my injury seems to have hit a plateau. Still can’t do yoga…even If I were free of kids to go. Nobody wants to walk bc it’s so hot n I hate walking alone. Blah blah blah

    So i started meditating regularly again last night and this morning. That’s the only thing I’ve changed for the worse lately, so I thought I’d start there. Hopefully today’s fast and the meditation will find me brighter by my next post.

    Hi fasters
    I got locked out as I probably didn’t tick the box saying ” Notify me of replies”.

    Today I celebrate two years of this WOL, and I am taking stock. A NEW ME really.
    I heard my man telling one of his old friends that I am recreating myself- which is so true. 27 kgs down and so much happier!

    Yesterday my car broke down on the motorway. I only had a credit card and no money. Once I got over the dismay, I just got onto the road after my car was towed off,along a busy road in 30+ degrees for 20k steps until I found an ATM. The towing firm offered a taxi but no money=no taxi. Standing heat is a benefit gained from this WOL, mind sharper, not being overwhelmed by incidents like this, and physically having the strength to move fast when necessary.France is a funny cradle to grave society which seldom delivers and this incident demonstrates this.
    Tow truck arrives, Madame, we will look after you. Car towed off, insurance alerted, money paid upfront (credit card). Whoops, sorry there is nothing more we do to help: Your problem not mine. My car is an Italian registered one, and my Italian is not good enough to talk on the phone. A learning process and the extra energy gained over two years is so useful. This incident, so difficult at the time is quickly put into prospective.

    Thank you, Michael Moseley for this kick start.

    This message is very me me, but I think that the point of being able to change oneself physically has a huge range of other benefits- physical and psychological.

    Slim, I remember that stage with small children, and it is a waiting game. We all plateau, but the scales move again, and the whole process of fasting helps our body cells to go into repair mode instead of go-go mode. I really believe that the psyche also benefits from fasting too. I keep in mind that there is a school of thought that a condition like Alzheimers is so called diabetes 3, caused by overindulgence of sugar, and although I don’t think I have Alzheimers (yet), I feel happier on an almost zero sugar life. I hope things turn around for you, and we are here to support you.

    xx Wiwi

    Wiwi

    I don’t know exactly why, but your little paragraph sent me into tears, and the tears lifted the numb. Thank you, sadness feels better than numb. Thank you for the thought and support.

    Sounds like you handled the car situation like a champ. I lived in France (Paris even) and I know this is no small thing.

    Slimn You sound as if you feel alone, and sorry to make you sad- in a way I hate summer even though we never have winter. In France I do not go out in the heat, but do courses on the internet.
    I remember a hot summer’s afternoon many years go, two teenagers, summer holidays, no where to go, no sort of programme. Waiting for the heat to pass. I still remember that helplessness. I hate the white watched out summer colours, and love the break in August when the light turns golden again.
    I lived in north Australia and the everyday heat and sunniness would have got to me if I hadn’t been fully occupied. Time stops in the heat.

    Thinking of you.
    xx Wiwi

    Washed out not watched out……………

    Hello, tangatawiwi

    “I’m making a swing. A NEW ME really.
    I heard my man telling one of his old friends that I am recreating myself that is so true. 27 kgs down and much happier! ”

    I make my own his words! living the same situation as you, another Anaide was born from taking the most important decision of life and have fought for each weight change and health happen, my husband always repeats: HAVE YOU MUCH PRIDE!

    We must be very proud of ourselves always!

    My road is still long and slow, but the important thing is to not get discouraged!

    Hugs from Brazil!

    SlimnHealthy – I know how you feel having adopted 3 step children 2 years ago, and its tough. I literally feel like a chef/maid/taxi service when they are around. Unfortunately, they have not been educated to help with the cooking as my husband likes to spoil them. At least they are your children and I am sure you get pleasure when they tell you they love you etc.

    Tangatawiwi – you poor thing, I lived in French Switzerland for 4 years and it was difficult to communicate if anything went wrong! Well done.

    Amazon – I looked for you at Wimbledon but didn’t see you. Was it amazing?

    Canada day today so lots of celebrations this weekend! My first so excited!

    Wiwi,

    yes. you have it. I’m not from Texas. I’m from a lush green and dark soiled northern state. I was never as homesick in Europe as I am in Texas summer. I don’t mind the heat so much as the coleurs and rocks and plants…I want to walk through a hard wood forest and see black wet soil. I’m also homesick for the lake (Great Lakes feel as big as the ocean) and when I get there in late July, I shall breath in home. I suppose the summer holidays with kids just put me in this terrain a lot with nothing to distract me from its foreigness.
    It takes 2-3 days to drive home, so it feels very very far away.

    As for loneliness. I think late motherhood has been the most isolating experience of my life. The feel of that comes and goes, and my experience of it becomes more mature with each year, but it is undeniable different than my over abundance of social life, educational/professional stimulation, power/money and travel/adventure that was my life before children. And, I think that is why I cried. Somewhere along this path I have become invisible. Perhaps becoming fatter and bigger is a desperate attempt at saying koo koo, I’m here! So just being acknowledged…it’s so small, and so big. It seems, in this world of youth and power, if you become old and have no professional power or money…you just become invisible…unnecessary. You sacrifice your whole self, and you get no hero medals…it’s a strange thing.

    But I’m not done…you and Anaide speak of recreating yourself…and I do believe this period is a dying of something to make way for the new. Lots of ego stuff has died or is dying away. Lots of things I thought I needed I can do without ….perhaps the fasting, and no Weightloss, are part of this. Getting ready, checking my motives. Going deeper into what I will do with this new self. Healing parts of the body that have been waiting for the deep rest of a fast.

    My daugher, the baby, will be 7 July 14th (Bastille day- and yes, there’s a rebel in her) and I will no longer have any children in the “formative” years. There’s something brewing in me. 💪🏼🍃🎈🎉

    Thanks for listening and acknowledging I’m here. ❤️

    Thank u Ali, just saw ur post

    Good afternoon all,
    Late afternoon and the sun is shining, finally, because it’s been a grey old day. SAD syndrome is definitely effecting my mood. It’s July for goodness sake I should be out in the garden in shorts not a fleece. But at least I have done the activities planed today and just broken my fast with an egg salad. Now sitting down to watch tennis.

    Amazon- Sorry you won’t be around in London but maybe another time? I am really looking forward to my visit.

    Started doing crosswords in the evening-a bit of multitasking, should keep the brain active.

    RT – Thanks for the jokes, I needed them today.

    Slimn,

    Your posts are heart-rending! I’m pleased this is a forum where you can be open and honest about how you feel. I know you’ll perk up again, but there’s no ups without downs…

    I’m not a mother, and never will be. On balance I think that’s probably for the best since, although I’m sure I would have loved a child if I’d had one, my only regret/ concern is who will make sure I’m not abused in the nursing home…not really a good reason to have kids 😀

    As someone who is not a mother, and not very child-friendly, I don’t look at you (or any other mother) and see ‘Mummy’, I see a woman who has children (and if they can go to bed early that would be great because it’s you I want to talk to, not them 😀)

    I can appreciate the sentiment of somehow becoming lesser/ losing your identity though. I’m Happy, married to Grumpy. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve heard ‘This is Grumpy and his wife Happy’. I say ‘No, this is Happy and Grumpy, they’re married’….

    Hiya everyone . just a quick pop in I will read back all the posts later or tomorrow . My lovely man had backache last night and didn’t tell me . I know there was something wrong when he said I could call the DR this morning . The sister from the Dr clinic phoned me back . Asked me to check if he was still swollen anywhere or discoloured or if his feet were cold to the touch . he said all was fine ( and I double checked) she said she thought they had stopped the painkillers too quickly ( not enough sent from the hospital) so I went and picked up the prescription she wrote out for him . He says he is fine now he has had 2 doses 4 hours apart .They said to phone ANYTIME if I was worried about anything at all . Did give me a scare though . The good things he has eaten quite well today and that is brilliant . I am so sorry If I am saying too much to you all but sometimes it’s good to get it off my chest .
    I have eaten quite a lot in the last 2 days but that isn’t important at the moment as I will be able to fix that no problem . Thank you all so much for being here and letting me vent xxxxxx

    Dear Wee
    Thinking of you and Jim. It sounds as if he is being monitored closely.
    We all share our ups and downs here, and that’s the strength of this thread. Keep us updated on how Jim is going. He must be thriving through being surrounded with your love.
    Good night Wee
    xx Wiwi

    Happy – thank you. I just laughed at the irony that on a low day I am “thanking Happy”. I also laughed at your thought on children as I could totally relate since all my friends had children at least ten years prior and what a drag they all were. I couldn’t have a decent conversation till I found some new pals. Lol.

    Wee- we are here to support each other- details n all. I would have eaten a whole pie today or drank a bottle of tequila if I hadn’t spilled my drab details. So glad J is doing better, and I hope you are too.

    Hi Wee,
    My sympathies, I had relentless back pain for weeks after my gall bladder surgery. I think the surgeons jump up and down on patients like trampolines. I actually thought my ribs might be broken. But with painkillers and hot water bottles finally got better. No symptoms at all now. Home J gets well soon. Remeber you need care too, you are not a teenager anymore even if you are the body beautiful now. We all overdo it at times(nursing, gardening or sport). We all need to chill a bit more.

    Happy- we had a work colleague nicknamed Grumpy because he had such a pessimistic outlook on life. He was on his third marriage last time I saw him so it didn’t effect his ‘pulling’ technique. Of course it helped that he was very good looking. I jump grom hyper positive to depressed like a pendulum, luckily it keeps moving.

    I absolutely adore children, always have, from babies to teenagers I love them, it’s why I went into teaching but I must say I am enjoying my ‘Gap’ years post kids at home and pre Grandchildren. Of course I still have pets and friends to care for daily but they are not as much work. Although some of the bowlers I know behave very much like children- sulking and showing off, it’s hilarious.

    Amazon- Tennis was brilliant today, I was shouting at the TV, some real surprizes. The women’s games were incredible.

    Well I didn’t even like all children when I was a child. I guess I was an environmentalist even at an early age 😀

    The persistence of the human race, although definitely NOT the natural environment, depends upon people liking children… Personally, I’d be quite happy if we all stopped breeding now, lived out our lives with as small an environmental footprint as possible, and died out before we wipe out what remains of our natural world. Are we really more deserving of life than elephants, tigers, lions, bears, etc….?

    Happy- you’ll be thrilled to know my 9 year old feels the same. As much as i try to instill compassion for human faults, he is completely on the side of nature and animals. He hasnt so much as looked at a piece of Salmon (and he LOVED the taste of meat) since he found out that meat was from animals snd that by not eating them he could stop contributing to deforestation, water pollution, CO2 emmussions etc. He read a book at 7 and never looked back.

    Ah Slimn, I love your son! Can I adopt him please?

    Happy, im sure he will be happy to make sure you are not abused in a nursing home. He does love underdog. 😊

    Hello,
    What a busy thread today! I can’t blink 🙄 And here we are busy 👀
    Life will be always playing tricks on us!
    I am the oldest of 6 from a great eccentric alcoholic and womanizer father whom committed suicide 8 years (didn’t say good bye) ago and mother a gorgeous peasant girl that he loved her and purposefully chose her as the mother of his kids while he was out and about.
    My life was always so crowded! Little space, little food, hand out clothes, shoes and plus. The talk in the house was “where’s the money for food?/how do we pay for the rent?.,,
    With all that madness in my head rasing my own brothers and sisters I really wanted to have a career and have my gorgeous clean/tidy place.
    Fast forward to Slim and Healthy! I wish I had my our kids and a thriving career. I am in the US for 21 years and without any single family blood related.
    I have a big empty house and a gorgeous lawn just for ourselves.
    Happy I have the same thoughts as I age! I love my nieces and nephews and believe it or not many dollars went down that way to help my family.
    My own step children are older then I am … Crazy! But, but “we’ve chosen our paths”
    I could go on and on but “I chose to be happy and healthy 🙏

    My fast is one tomorrow! Saturday isn’t such and ideal day. Cousin is arriving Sunday and next week I am still planning to Fast 2 days… It’s not my vacation 😘 There’s plenty food in my big fridge for who wants to eat.
    Wee … Be thinking of you
    Looking forward for a zen day and walking in the woods with Sasha
    Xoxo

    Hello everyone.

    Go figure. A heavy day of emotions, ended up being the best fasting day I’ve had in a while!!!

    It’s 9pm, I’m having a veg soup and I didn’t have my first protein shake until 7pm.

    Thank you all for listening, responding and supporting. It truly helped. I did a lot of crying and it was exactly what I needed. I feel much lighter now. ❤️ Something just needed to be felt.

    HealthCB, it’s nice to hear what you said… bc there are days I wonder about my path. I took care of two little sisters and then waited as long as is humanly possible to choose motherhood. I know each path is perfect in their own flawed way.

    Good nite all. The sun rises again tomorrow and….” I am alive, I have a precious human life and I don’t want to waste it” -Dalai Lama

    Wow some really interesting thoughts about children. My husband and I were talking about it today but I am 43 and he is 55 with 3 kids already from previous marriages. We are at a point in our lives where we want time for ourselves traveling etc, and I don’t think another child would allow that, I always thought one day I would but I chose a career as a lawyer and was married to my job for 20 years!

    Empathize with everyone as when we have the 3 kids here it’s a nightmare. I feel like a slave. Everyone said it’s different when it’s your own child but I doubt it….

    No fasting for me as we are celebrating Canada day here! Have a wonderful weekend everyone!

    Wonderful exchange about children. It’s great to hear your life story HCB. I am sad not to be able to meet you in London, but grandchildren call in Rome.
    BTW grandchildren are easier than children. I am fairly dispassionate about their tantrums, and have a tendency to laugh when the grandies get angry. Having grandchildren without having children would have been ideal!

    Next fast on Monday for me. I will be at home now for 10 days and can get back to the rhythmn.

    Happy weekend. Happy Canada day, Ali. On the French Fete Nat, I creep away as there are always people in France who want to spoil things for others!

    Morning All,
    I detect some brightening of the weather so I am going to be weeding this morning, joy! NOT! But hopefully only three hours ‘tops’ as I have a bowls match this afternoon. Thank goodness for bowls or else I would be slaving away all day. Off to the cinema tonight to see Ad Fab, can’t wait.
    Salad for me later but I plan to have salmon on croute with it, yum.
    I too have a ‘planet saving’ daughter, hence vegetarian, volunteers at animal rescue and walks everywhere if she can. Happy- I do think education is the key to ‘saving our planet’ but the schools can’t devote enough time, energy and resources to it due to the demands made upon them. Parents need to step up too and take responsibility for their actions. I grew up as the youngest of five in a low income family and my father was one of 16. Thank goodness most people now see the wisdom of smaller families. Two children were enough for me, never considered more, but like many others I had a career in computing and didnt start my family until 31, then I retrained as a teacher, best thing I ever did even though I did have all the red tape to deal with and no free time. My children observed two hardworking parents and became hard working themselves. Yet we all try to make the best of our ‘free’ time. I do believe working lives are too long for many though, hense my early retirement made possible by a private pension.
    Have a great weekend everyone
    HBC- Email me your London Dates please, I hope they don’t coincide with my Cornwall dates. I will try to fit with your plans, any specific sights you want to see. I am not a Londoner so cannot be a guide I am afraid.

    Morning/evening all,

    Glorious sunny morning with a nice breeze to blow the washing dry 🌞😎

    I’ve done a few chores and am now catching up on what is going on in the world, drinking coffee and waiting for my bread to prove. The spelt flour has been given one more chance as I decided that it might do better on a warm sunny morning with a baker of the same disposition 😉

    It must the the time of year or the phase of the moon that so many of us are having emotional ups and downs this past week or so. I’m hoping I’m now in sight of equilibrium again and might even consider fasting on Monday which is definitely intermittent at the moment!
    I go from periods of real determination where I can be successful for a couple of months to being unable to lose an ounce and wanting to eat everything in sight and having to fight with myself the whole time. It is frustrating but I’m not giving in and on reflection, when I think I’ve over eaten it often turns out not to be true as my goalposts are so much narrower as far as food is concerned.

    Time to get on with a few more chores before the tennis starts.

    Have a good one everybody 😜🎾🎾🎾

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