Well I’m fasting today too.

I wish you hadn’t posted that link RT – I looked at the brownie and flat bread recipes…And now I’m hungry and thinking about nuts, chocolate and chickpeas…

RT, there is an active 8 week BSD forum. I suspect plenty of people are still doing it as a kick start to weight loss/ to reverse diabetes. I’m not sure I’d agree it’s so last year. It’s just not aimed at you and me and, as we aren’t doing it, it’s not really on our radars/ we’re not actively looking for information on it and perhaps are less aware of it?

Jo, I hope you’ve got your eating back under control again now? Just a thought – if you haven’t weighed yourself since the start of March (and bearing in mind we’re a quarter of the way through April), how are you going to know if your April challenge to lose 4lbs has worked or not?!

Well the sky is still clear blue,the 🌞🌞🌞 is still shining and it is very warm. So much for the weather forecast 😉

I think I worked the overdose of wine out of my system at the gym and certainly feel good for forcing myself out of bed this morning when my eyes didn’t want to open……

I’m still pondering on the 700/800 calorie regime and I can’t understand why so many have problems sticking to 500/600. Is it lack of willpower or sugar/carb addiction or both? Is it associating the mid morning/afternoon break, or sitting down with a cuppa with having a snack? Is it lack of knowledge regarding human physiology?
All of the above?

We’ve all occasionally had a FD that is tougher than usual but on the whole it gets easier with time. Is it because we’ve all made changes to our diets that we aren’t wailing with hunger every FD with no prospect of any respite?
It would be nice to think it is because we are all superwomen/men but sadly that isn’t the case.

It would also appear from reading posts elsewhere on this site that a lot of people start 5:2 without reading the book which is a mistake IMO and/or don’t think about how they got to be overweight/obese in the first place or consider making changes to their eating habits in order to keep the weight off. It’s only a few quid and after that the only money anyone will spend is on smaller clothes!

I’m not criticising anyone especially in light of the fact that I’ve fallen off the wagon a few times, I’m just trying to figure out why some people have so many issues with following this WOE.

well I’ve never seen any research to explain the significance of quarter TDEE/500 calories anyway. Obviously it works! But is it significantly different from 0/300/800 calories?
If you’re goal is weight loss only, then any calorie deficit should work, albeit your rate of loss will vary.
If your goal is health, again, what difference 0/300/500/800 calories? Presumably the lower your intake the better. But then factor in what food you eat fast and non-fast days.. even at 300 calories, carbs/sugars will be less beneficial than fats.

So many variables, not enough research!

For me personally, it boils down to eating more on a fast day equals more fast days and/ or stricter non-fast days. I think I’d rather take the hit on the fast day. Hunger doesn’t kill you. In fact it’s liberating to realise I can cope perfectly well for 24-36 hours (or more) with very little/no food!

Hi Couscous,

I realise 5-600 is doable, but possibly a little arbitrary if there is no research comparing 0/300/500/800 (health benefits, weight loss)?

Re: luck. After 3 years maintaining successfully, intermittent fasting is a way of a life, and something I miss during times when I’ve maintained without the need for fasting! I think it just suits some people more than others.

Yes, I’m aware of Newcastle/BSD and FMD. Do we assume then that 800 calories twice a week will result in the same benefits as 800 calories/day for 8 weeks or roughly 800 calories/day for 5 days, nutritionally optimised? One suspects not.

And the fact that BSD and FMD both work doesn’t address my point. There is as far as I’m aware no data comparing 0/500/800 calories on a 5:2 regime?

Jo,

I can’t kick the desire to snack, but my weak time is about 3pm sat at my desk… I’m fine on a fast day, but non-fast days are challenging.

I’m very envious of your exercise. I’m going to have to take a half day off work today because I couldn’t sit down this morning. OH has been away, and unfortunately the animals won’t look after themselves. Too much bending, twisting and lifting has set me back again 🙁

Re: your April challenge. I guess so long as you drop somewhere around 3lbs off next weekend’s weight you’ll know you’ve lost at least 4!

I’m looking forward to breaking today’s fast with a spicy frittata. Just trying to hold off so I don’t get hungry again before bedtime (and MasterChef won’t help with that!).

Hi Fast Trackers and Hello World (You All know Who You ARE) 😉
Q. What happens to a frog’s car when it breaks down?
A. It gets toad away.
A man walks into a shop and sees a cute little dog. He asks the shopkeeper, “Does your dog bite?”
The shopkeeper says, “No, my dog does not bite.”
The man tries to pet the dog and the dog bites him. “Ouch!” He says, “I thought you said your dog does not bite!”
The shopkeeper replies, “That is not my dog!”
Q. Why did the lion brake up with his girlfriend?
A. Cuz she was a CHEETAH!
Snake 1: ‘Are we poisonous?’
Snake 2: ‘I don’t know, why?’
Snake 1: ‘I just bit my lip.’
Q. What did the elephant say to the naked man?
A. “How do you breathe through something so small?”
A man went to sell his dog. A buyer asked him, “Is this dog faithful?”
The man replied, “Yes,I have sold him 3 times but he returns to me.”
Q. Why did the duck get arrested?
A. because he was selling quack
Q: What did the duck say when he bought lipstick?
A: “Put it on my bill.”
There was a papa mole, a momma mole, and a baby mole. They lived in a hole out in the country near a farmhouse. Papa mole poked his head out of the hole and said, “Mmmm, I smell sausage!” Momma mole poked her head outside the hole and said, “Mmmm, I smell pancakes!” Baby mole tried to stick his head outside but couldn’t because of the two bigger moles. Baby mole said, “The only thing I smell is molasses.”
A snake slithers into a bar and the bartender says, ‘Sorry, buddy. I can’t serve you.’
‘Why not?’ the snake asks.
‘Because you can’t hold your liquor.’

Have A Happy Weekend All You beautiful Losers 😆
Peace RT

Morning/evening all,

Another fine morning 🙂

My cats used to sleep on my bed 😳

I can sleep anywhere regardless of how much light or not there is in the room. I think it comes from years of on-call and 24 hour shifts and getting used to snatching some sleep whenever possible.
My memory foam mattress is so much more comfortable than its orthopaedic predecessor and my body is much happier for it.

Off to the gym soon and then out with ex-colleagues tonight so I’m fasting until this evening.

Have a good weekend everybody 😜

Amazon,

The cats DO sleep on the bed, although I’m always surprised they don’t get seasick riding the duvet waves as OH tosses and turns! …And of course that’s another good reason to have memory foam on all the beds – I can kick him out or escape if the snoring/thrashing around gets too bad 😁

I envy your ability to sleep. I’m getting worse at sleeping, except in my own bed! Memory foam at home spoils you for other people’s spare beds/hotels. And it’s eerily silent and dark where we are, so even relatively low level light and noise where other people live disturbs me 🙁

The city council has just purchased a block of land for about $1m, on the west side of Tawa valley (for those of you who know Wellington). The plan is to develop walking and biking trails through the bush and pine forest, linking up with other tracks in the area, and building on the bird corridor north and south. Today was a guided walk up the base track, a lovely, slightly challenging and slippery 1 1/2 hour scramble up and down. Thought of you, Wiwi – after the event!

I’m grateful that neither OH nor I needs to get up during the night for the short visit. Saying that, another disturbed night – MUST take that sleeping pill on Friday night! The cat can be a warm lump beside my legs, which doesn’t help.

One pound? That’s only within normal daily body fluctuation Jo. It is whether the next day is up another or down that gives a better idea.
Sorry to hear about your finger. My throat is wreaking havoc with me. We ARE in the wars, aren’t we?
Enjoy your bowls. P

It’s fascinating how you “over there” start gardening in spring, while we do it in autumn when the heat of summer has passed.
Glad to hear you were about to get active, even if tentatively, Happy. P

Hi everyone,

It’s a scorcher here, 23C in April 😲😎🌞

I had the hangover from hell yesterday and all because the new “place to be on the river” pub served me a G&T in a pint ale glass with a straw (I am not kidding) so I switched to wine. I didn’t drink much but mixing grape and grain without eating dinner was a very unwise move……

On the bright side, I caught up with several ex-colleagues some of whom I’ve not seen since I gave up work which is 4 and 1/2 years ago. One has had a second child, another has recently married and a third is getting married in two weeks time. They were all delighted to see me which was really heartening especially as I was their manager. We had a really good time despite the inefficiencies and lack of knowledge/training of the bar staff one of whom did not know the difference between ale and lager (raises eyes heavenward)
I won’t be going back to the pub again and if anyone asks I won’t be recommending it which is a shame as it is situated on a beautiful part of the Thames affording views of the old Harrods storehouse and Hammersmith bridge with transport links a few minutes walk away.

Despite the hangover I managed a few chores and got all the washing done and when it was safe to bend over without feeling nauseous 🙃 I did some weeding and watering in my little garden which is looking lovely with daffodils, narcissus, tulips, hyacinth, bluebells (and the white variety) and various Alpines all in bloom.

The veg drawer in the fridge was packed and as I’m going away for Easter I decided to use as much of it as possible. I’ve made a huge vat of curry using my stock pot which has yielded 8 x 300 calorie portions of mixed veg (onion, garlic, ginger, chilli, potato, sweet potato, tomato, leek, celeriac, parsnip, carrot, capsicum, kale, spring greens, cauliflower), chick pea and black eyed bean curry made from scratch starting with roasting the spices and making a paste.
I shall be sampling it this evening and the remainder has been stashed in the fridge and the freezer.

I always have bruises and cuts somewhere and half the time have no idea where they’ve come from although the huge purple painful bruise just below my knee was sustained when I bashed my leg on the steps of the pool 😢

Jo, I hope your finger gets better soon.
Happy, don’t overdo it.

I like the contention that some people don’t know how to weigh themselves properly, I find keeping one foot on the floor helps 😉

Have a good one everybody 😜

RT,

Thank you for the Cooralpyn link. You have just made an ordinary Perth Monday morning so much brighter. Its so good to see something so uplifting after the atrocities in St Petersburg and Stockholm.

Val

Hi all, from a wild, wet and windy place in Victoria…we are having an Easter getaway early and are beachside at a tiny village in Gippsland, an area known as the 90 mile beach. Fortunately we got some sunshine yesterday as the storms worsened overnight and we are now inside reading by the wood heater. Cant complain, got a really good walk in yesterday and the coffee is good.

RT did you realize there is now something known as the ‘Silo Art Trail’- a total of 6 are now finished or in progress. I think Guido’s work is by far the best. He did the first one at Brim in Victoria (North of Horsham in the Wimmera). We aim to see them all, so thanks for recommending Coonalpyn – it will be next. Its a wonderful way for these towns to regenerate isn’t it? The artists’ talent is amazing to me, Guido van Helten especially, the way he captures facial expression on such a large ‘canvas’

I hope everyones injuries are healing and your lurgie is improving Purple. I am like you Amazon, always a puncture hole or a bruise somewhere! I blame my clumsy gene or the fact I can only see out of one eye!!

Well we are off for a walk between downpours – taking an umbrella though! Mondays fast will now be on Wednesday, I find its better just to be ‘sensible’ when away, no point in aiming too high!!

Have a great week all…..

Sounds like a great excuse for another road trip Nama 😊😊
Still working my way through the bug, thanks…I mastered sleeping sitting almost upright last night!
Enjoy your early break…a good book and a fire..all you need now is a good red 🍷 (perhaps a little later 😊) P

Thanks guys it really is something to behold isn’t it.? Nama I had no-idea there where 6 works on trial that is wow wow wow the Brim silo is crazy good hey !!
RT

Hi Purple

Rugged up and enjoying ourselves. 🌺🌺🌺⛳️⛳️⛳️⛳️⛳️ I have a head cold and OH has a chest cold. We are in the middle of two weeks golf in the North of New Zealand. Lots of rain and floods here. With sunshine in between.

RT, Thanks for loading the Cootalpyn silo artist link. Looks fabulous for our next trip. Is there a list of all locations?

Cheers, Bay 🌸🌸☀️☀️☀️☀️

Hi everyone,

This thread reads like a sick list at the moment 😷🤒
GET WELL SOON EVERYONE ☺

I was at the gym by 9am despite the garage being a couple of miles in the opposite direction from home which was great as I got my workout done before it got too busy.

I had a chat with one of the staff regarding the range of products they’ve just started to sell, face cream, shower gel, aromatherapy oil etc. It is all natural stuff and the products have all been tested by the staff to ensure that everything is OK. It all looks really nice so I’m going to try some of the products when I run out of what I’m using at present. I forgot to ask for a price list so I might change my mind…….

Trust me I’m a Doctor had some very interesting studies on SBS last night none more so than saccharin v stevia which concluded that saccharin pushed blood sugar up in general but stevia had a flat line response only a handful of people but interesting Im very sure our resident scientist Happy will add to this as required oh yes and extending the fasted window has health benifets without any restriction on menu yes its true 😆
Hi Bay here is the silo trail map that Nama refered to plus of course the one here in South Australia at Coonalpyn
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-24/silo-trail-map/7961246
Happy Tuesday
Peace RT