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Thank you, thank you. *bows*
I miss the emoticons here…
I want to thank Femme for her great tip about the French “flutes”.
Ik had no idea they freeze so well.
Next time I am in France I’ll buy that.
But I also love the pain aux cereales, and the pain au chocolat, and the eclairs and…
Ohh, la douce France…
Hi everyone
Well I will have to do extra FDs this week…my daughter is cooking me an indian feast tonight for my birthday with marshmallow and cookie cheesecake, it would be rude to refuse a slice. Sorry if your fasting today, but I will be tomorrow!
Onwards and downwards, I might be upwards after tonight!!
Ali x
Hi Boo
I missed all the controversy a little while ago because I don’t come here every day and the messages had gone when I signed in.
I hope you’ll come back and post regularly, at least on this thread. You’ve been a member here longer than most people and started this thread. I’ve always seen you as kind and considerate. You try to help others who may be struggling with the fasting diet and IF’s the reason we’re all here, after all.
Lizzypb
Hi Precious Boo boo. I am so pleased to see your post, I do hope that you will stay with this thread. If it wasn’t for your encouragement I may have given up 5:2 when I hit my plateau, I certainly came close!! I am still on the plateau actually, but clothes are getting bigger!!!! We are off to Wales for a week on Saturday, Snowdonia in a cottage, just hoping for a bit of decent weather! So I won’t be able to check in for a while. I hope you’ll still be posting here when we return. WN. X
I am very thankful I have found this forum today, I am 55, and its interesting I had done something similar to this diet with some friends about 10yrs ago and lost 25 kilos then put 5 back on and maintained that weight for 4yrs, then I had major surgery and put another 15kg back on, lost the 20kg again a couple of years ago, then last year put it all back on in 7 months, it caused lots of problems with the sudden weight gain, walking being excruciating. Now after lots of podiatrist and reflexology, with orthotics for the shoes I can now walk again generally without alot of pain! I have started the fast diet again and have lost 2.9kg = 6.38lbs the past week! I am one of these loses weight fast and gains it fast too! I am determined to get this weight off, am in a better frame of mind too, had even thought of hypnosis banding and decided I needed to get my head into better frame of mind!
I have noticed as I have changed my diet I am naturally being more active, I am concerned we are going away for the next 3 days and always find THAT difficult, I have prepared some healthy snacks to take me so I may be less inclined on eating bad. For me I have to eat well for 6 days including the non fast days to keep a better frame of mind. Once the weight is down I can eat anything I like, but maintain only eating to hunger and fullness…
Thanks to this wonderful diet and the encouraging words on this forum – I am down to under the 12 stone mark for a good few years. As a woman of a certain age I have had trouble losing weight but this is working and after two weeks have lost 4 lbs. Just trying to remember to not eat EVERYTHING when on the non-fast days.
Thanks for exlpaining BooBoo!
We are all at a certain age and this means (in my opinion) that we have seen a lot happening in life.
So by now we know that there will Always be people who take pleasure in dimishing actions or charactars of other people.
Why they do that?
I have no clue.
But if we were to live a life in a way based on other peoples judgements, we would have no live at all.
Dear BooBoo, it is only a forum, it is of really no importance.
We come here to chat about our diet, our weight and basically thats it.
When we join a forum long enough, we also start to share more personal things.
But remember: would we write this on a piece of paper and pin it on a bulletin board in a supermarket?
I think not.
But that is how I consider the internet and open forums.
Some forums have the possibility of sending someone a personal message, that is maybe more personal.
But we do not know the poeple that post here, so they actually are strangers.
And I don’t take comments or remarks that are given to me by total strangers very seriously.
Ans sometimes I ignore them alltogether.
What I am trying to say (it’s really difficult for mein a foreign language), is don’t let it get to you.
We know by know (since we are LOACA) what we deserve in life and this abuse is not that!
I have not read the other threads and I am sure you feel hurt and offended.
But what total strangers have to say, says nothing about you and more about them.
Love,
Simonne
I am post menopause and also diabetic. I found that eating a low carb, high fat diet helped me lose just over 4 stone in six months as well as being better for my blood sugar. However, the weight loss has stalled so am now trying 5/2 as well, but doing it low carb. I find a low carb, high fat diet very effective in eliminating any hunger pangs and food cravings. It has also lowerered my blood pressure and cholesterol. So, it might be a good way of speeding up weight loss in combination with 5/2. It also follows the five rules of the leptin diet mentioned above.
Hi Pebbles,
You’ve done brilliantly so far. That was some spectacular weight loss. You might need to reduce fat intake a wee bit with 5:2, at least on fast days, but I’m sure you’ll find a way of eating that suits you. That’s another thing about 5:2, you make your own rules based on what works for you.
You mention improvement in blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar readings. You’ve pinpointed another aspect of 5:2 which can be comforting for those like me who got stuck on a plateau weight-wise but still saw dramatic improvement in the aforementioned ‘big three’.
As you probably already know, 5:2 was originally devised to deal with several health issues, including diabetes. Weight loss was just a very fortunate side effect. 🙂 How lucky was that?!
Ply24mp
I enjoyed your youtube link (a few posts up this thread) and the sentiment. (It arrived late last night so I hope I understood anyway! I was in bed!!! I keep meaning to do myself a favour and stop using all electronic media an hour or so before bed…) Re-posting it here in case anyone missed it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk
Lizzypb
Bonjour lovely LOACA –
I’ve just had a quick look at the recent posts and was pleased to see PreciousBooBoo has been on explaining her absence. After the first ‘incident’ I stopped reading any other thread but this one – it was obvious to me that many people are just on to cause upset, and I don’t want any part of that.
One of my favourite phrases is ‘least said soonest mended’ – how true; and one of my life’s philosophies has been to not react to any form of bullying – that’s what bullies want and take pleasure from; walk away or in this case don’t reply.
I would like to welcome the newbies and look forward to hearing how they do on the FD over the coming weeks. It’s my grandson Max’s 2nd birthday so I’m off the skype with him.
A bientot,
Femme
Hello All,
Just checking in as I promised I would every now and then. All going well on my thread, very successful ‘ 2 lb per week’ most weeks but we had a bit of a rest for the summer holidays, only human after all. So much socialising makes dieting and fasting quite hard.
Progress – now 4.5 stone down since last year, 3.5 stone attributed to ‘fasting’ since January. I have changed food types frequently and am now trying plant proteins and pulses – quinoa mainly. Bit of a harsh change and not suited to eating out locally but so far very effective and filling, like porridge they have a slow burn. Still not eating many carbs, using zero noodles instead. Grated cauliflower is quite good too. I use lots of peppers and chilli/ curry flavours – yum.
Exercise – I had a full and varied programme of walking, yoga, sports and dance but these are on the back burner this month due to some spinal inflammation. Steroid injections should help next week, although the prospect is a bit scary.
Aim for this month 9 lb as a holiday preparation, may require 4 : 3. Long term aim to lose another 3.5 stone by next September, preferably before, certainly another stone off during October – December.
Hope everyone is feeling good and losing weight. Bless Michael and supportive friends on these threads.
Hi to all LOACA
Just a line to anyone who might be despairing right now. There are lots of people on these forums that I could identify with. Here’s my experience so far:
I am a LOACA (Yay! We should be LLOACA – lovely ladies….)
I lost 2lb per week easily on 4:3 when I started. (Yay! Jojo)
I had a holiday break that put some lbs back on. (oh no!)
I lost those pounds and some more (14lb off) so went to maintenance (Yay! MC girls!)
I fasted on 5:2 and considered 6:1 and put on a pound. (oh no!)
I fasted again and put on another lb. (double oh no!)
I plateaued out at 12lb lost in total. (moans…)
BUT…
I have reduced my love handles and my muffin top! Clothes are more comfortable. People are noticing the change. (Yippety yip yip!)
So the course of true weight loss hasn’t run completely smoothly so far but I’m game to carry on. Onwards and (still) downwards even if hit and miss occasionally…
Be strong. Anyone can give up. That’s the easy option.
Lizzypb
I’m 55 y.o. & I have let myself go & became a bit fat & very embarrassed of the way I look, I also am gluten, dairy, fructose free. It’s not easy to be like this as you can’t eat a lot of fruit, which makes it hard for me as I love apples, pears, mango, watermelon and I can’t eat any of these fruit.
I have been suffering from menopause for 10 years, which has been very difficult for me.
So really I would love to do this diet but I love sugar too much, so how do you give up sugar, anyone?
Hi Eg, everyone is different. You will find your own way to give up sugar, provided you take it as seriously as giving up cigarettes. Sugar is addictive and it is in lots of processed food.
Having done it, I do know that if you are serious about giving up sugar, that you cannot have even a small amount until you have broken the addictive response. Otherwise you are back craving sugar again.
First, I read David Gillespie’s book on Sugar. I told myself that sugar was poison for me. Then, I changed to a low carb, normal fat, gluten free diet. No processed foods. Drink lots of water, some herbal teas, black coffee. Have some protein and green vegetables in your meals. Finally, You need to distract yourself, keep busy.
Sugar is like a siren that says, a little bit can’t hurt. 🙂 Don’t believe it. My experience is that you may need to give up sugar more than once until one day you realise you beat it.
No processed food. Cooking for yourself is the only way to guarantee that you’re not eating some form of sugar. Sugar has many names. Corn syrup, glucose, fructose, sucrose, etcetera. I think it’s best not to have any artificial sweeteners, until your body readjusts. You are in the process of retraining your taste buds. May the force be with you 🙂
All the best. Bay 🙂
Hi Beyondhope (you won’t be if you follow this way of life)
One of my friends is a similar height to you and her TDEE and fasting calorie allowance are well below the 2000 and 500 limits for the ‘average’ woman. Don’t forget to work yours out on the calculator here on site. Apologies if that’s obvious but my friend had little or no results until she realised she was nowhere near average.
Good luck!
Lizzypb
I’m on my phone, so can’t copy and paste a link to YouTube. But recently I’ve have a song in my head by an Indie band called the Boo Radleys. I’m a bit younger than most of the LOACA’s, so you might not know it? It’s called ‘Wake up Boo’. I don’t know your musical tastes, but it’s upbeat and catchy…
Hi Eg
Now for Part 2 on what can happen if you do give up sugar and processed foods. 🙂
With fasting 5:2 and giving up all sugar and wheat and processed foods, I lost 15 kgs in 4 months. I also lost 3 dress sizes, with weight going from my upper legs, upper arms, shoulders, back, trunk, hips and waist. Most importantly, I lost from around my internal organs. I have way more energy and my doctor has reduced the amount of BP medication I am on.
I have now maintained this weight loss for 4 months, still on 5:2 or 6:1 fasting, and minimising the amount of sugar and staying off wheat most of the time. If I indulge in a piece of GF cake etc, then I try to fast the following day.
Others who give up sugar and wheat and all processed foods report losing weight and maintaining the weight loss.
I wish you all the best, and look forward to hearing of your progress. The main thing is to forgive yourself a lapse, and try to minimise the lapse. We’re all human.
Cheers, Bay 🙂
Hey Bay- good and practical advice. Even as a young mother, I saw that if I had half a piece of toast, as opposed to a whole, I would lose the baby weight that I was trying to ditch. I thought it was the butter, but also saw that I couldn’t eat sandwiches everyday. I am not gluten intolerant, but a little of this kind of thing is all my body can take, weight-wise.
Hello lovlies!
It’s been a while, cos I’ve been up and down and in and out and well, blooming busy with life.
In between all that, I’ve had a coouple of wobbly weeks with the ‘man’ – honestly, worse than kids – and we’ve put our house on the market. I must confess; I hit the red wine 🙁 But I’ve got my mojo back now and am invigorated to read your happy posts.
During my spell in the ‘wilderness’ I did find, as you do, something really interesting about wheat… but Boo beat me to it. Anyway, it appears I could be wheat sensitive – not intolerant, just sensitive. So I’ve stopped eating bread as oddly it started to make me feel sick, and then after a FD, really a bit icky and bloated,like an old dead thing, which was odd. But now, I feel loads better and the weight is starting to move again. (downwards, that is…)
Anyway, just thought I’d pop back to say ‘hello’ and give you all best wishes and tell you that I’m back to snitching as much info as you good ladies have.
Thank you and besties to all…but where’s Boo?
Tiger
Hi Bay
Sorry to hear you are wheat sensitive too, but in an odd way, I’m sort of relieved it’s not just me! I did think at first it was all nonsense, and just hype to have ‘an allergy’, but obviously not. Great to hear you’ve only got a small tummy to go lol. Just hope it’s not a stubborn one, hanging on in there for all it’s worth 🙂
This diet or WOL has really opened up a whole new world to me and made me think about other things that ordinarily I would have poo-pooed. I’m finding it all quite remarkable, but as I feel so much better, I’m not complaining! 🙂
Best wishes and hope that little tum shifts soon
Tiger
Dear all:
As I couldn’t keep up with all the activity on this thread, I haven’t logged in for ages! So sorry….
Just to let you all know that I have lost 11 kilos!!!!!! since May 30th. Fasting days are tough, but I have managed to fit them in when I am not home. I still have a couple more to loose, but I can now fit in clothes I wore over 12 years ago… 🙂 🙂 🙂 As a result I have hidden my “oversize wadrobe”….
I want to encourage anybody who is starting this programme to believe in 5:2, to not worry about plateauing, it is normal. I have been through times where I have stagnated for 4 weeks, but have persevered and can see the results. It is also a lifelong choice. It helps you to learn how to eat better and more healthy foods!
As I have said in a previous post, I was shocked to realise that a mere tablespoon of olive oil has 120 calories! we, living here in the Sounth, drizzle olive oil liberally on our food. Now I mix the dressing before I add to salads and vegetables, and get the same taste but much less calories!
Good luck to everbody. Thank you for your support when it is needed. You are all LOVELY PEOPLE!
Big hug….
Hi Tiger
Thank you. My tum has been around for 4 months of maintaining on 5:2 or 6:1 and sadly I think it’s here to stay. Can’t really complain. Fasting as a WOL has been so good for me. I am also posting on the Maintenance Chatbox and on Jojo’s thread.
I wonder how the Scots are going. Weemam?
Cheers, Bay 🙂
Hi there, I would say as a peri- that I dont lose any weight without diet alone. I think for me, that my hormones – the good ones for fat burning only ignite when exercising. If I diet by food alone I lose weight but its not fat and the bod doesnt look as nice (and fat stays in the same place). Exercise more and diet less (as my fact looks gaunt if I lose too much weight too). Hope this helps.
Hi iouabook
Well you deserve an award for a fabulous achievement, ” for PERSEVERANCE WHEN THE GOING GOT TOUGH AND BATTLING ON THROUGH”. (Round of applause!).
I too have not been on the thread much lately, too much going on at home and on the thread! I lost the same amount but over 18 months, so well done. I shall take your encouragement on board as I am struggling to get back to the 5:2 routine since my holiday. The morning starts well but I eat something I shouldn’t after I’ve had my main meal, undoing my hard work.
A good day to fast would be a yoga day, which I’ve just started – hot yoga, twice a week. I have a smoothie an hour before my class, a few almonds and oats mixed with a little yoghurt and water. Then I get back about 9:30 to eat, so a very light 5:2 meal would be ideal as they are usually very quick to prepare.
Note to self, must try harder and get those crudités ready in the fridge for the snack attacks, better still ignore the snack attacks. Hopefully a few good FDs and I will be back on track, only 2 lbs and I’m back on my pre-holiday weight. Would like to engage lower abdominals and I think some of the yoga poses might help there.
Ali x
Bonjour from Burgundy –
I too have been quiet with my postings not for any particular reason, but every day life sometimes gets in the way.
However, I am feeling a bit disgruntled at the moment as I saw my Endocrinologist the other day for a check-up about my hypothyroidism. My bloods showed that the level of levothyroxine I am on is too high – and weight should have been coming off easily – NO! My dosage has been reduced slightly and bloods will be taken in 3 months time to see what my levels are then. This is all ‘well and good’ but I am still struggling to lose at the moment. He did comment (this is all being interpreted by my daughter) that perhaps my weight will be at the current level from here on in!! Apart from my weight I am very healthy for my age (don’t you hate it when people say that).
I refuse to believe that I shall be stuck two-and-a-half stones overweight – since being on the 5:2 I have lost 11 lbs (just short of 5 kgs), but extremely slowly. I shall persevere – in fact, I am determined to prove him wrong! This time next year (when I see him again) I shall be at my ideal weight!
Right, moan over – the sun is still shining and very hot in my part of France – the leaves have begun to change colour and fall; the mornings are a little chilly before the sun is up; actually after Spring my favourite season is Autumn – here even winters are nowhere near as bad as the north of england.
Just had a thought – do we LOACA expect too much from ourselves (weight-wise)? It always used to be taken for granted that around the menopause and thereafter women would turn into podgy, grey-haired grandma-like figures; it was expected and accepted. When did this change?
A bientot,
Femme
Hello – I have done my first week of fasting and being careful the rest of the time and guess what – I have put on nearly 2lbs.
To say I’m disappointed is a huge understatement.
I want to believe it’s not a waste of time but frankly it’s tough. If it is an age thing then it’s not worth continuing with it. Is it? Help.
Hi batliner.
Sometimes it takes a while for things to get going and this way of eating will only give an average loss of 1lb per week, and so it might take a while it to show on the scales especially as weight can fluctuate from day to day.
Did you measure yourself?
Did you calculate your TDEE, and check that you are not overeating on your non fasting days?
Be patient and keep going, it really does work.
Hi Femme
Re expecting too much at our age!
I think we may expect too much since the “glamorous grannies appeared in the media. They have time and money for personal trainers and body sculpting whether the gym or knife! When I was a child most mums stayed at home and cooked meals from scratch, and I’m sure we ate less food high in sugars and fats. Ergo we were healthier but we excepted people as they were.
Anyway well done on your will do attitude to your progress over the next year. I had healthy american pancakes and a banana for breakfast and will fast until my dinner tonight. It will be a small roast with boiled not roasted potatoes so a step in the right direction. No snacking this evening I’ll have some fizzy water to drink, bought loads yesterday!
Ali x
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