Carol,
It turns out it is a thing after all 😀
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It’s the wine that gets me too Polly.
For the last month, I’ve been really strict. ..keeping to one glass on any occasion. ..sometimes lunch AND dinner, but never 2 at once. Also, 2 alchol free days a week. Doing this, I’ve brought my weight back down to a very comfortable margin below my ‘trigger point’.
Very happy camper 😊😊😊
Well I often envy you retired ladies… only 19 years for me now…! But actually with respect to wine, still working helps! I’m now used to not drinking on work days, but imbiibing at weekends only. I know when I’m on holiday I find it difficult not to drink every night, so I suspect I’d fall into drinking every day when retired very easily!
I’m having an odd day today.
Usually on a Saturday my treat is break fast at lunchtime with a sandwich and a packet of crisps (having been bread free from the previous weekend). Today I just didn’t want bread at all, so lunch was the usual minus the bread.
And having been added sugar free all week, I offen make us some weekend biscuits. But today I’ve thought about making biscuits (out of habit!) and realised I don’t actually want any. When I’ve visualised eating (for example coconut cookies which are really tasty!) all I can think is that they are super sweet and that instant gratification just isn’t worth it. I asked OH whether he wanted any, and he said he’d rather have nuts.
So there you are, a weekend with no added sugar and possibly no refined carbs! Intermittent fasting continues to surprise me… 33 months on!
Well done Happy! I can’t wait to get to that situation of not wanting the treat!
Polly, on the topic of wine……I went to a 70th birthday yesterday of a very special friend and indulged in very mindless eating and drinking and put on a kg!
I’m not really complaiing because one of the advantages of 5:2 as I see it is I can have those occasional crazy eating days and know my weight will be back to normal a couple of days later.
I point it out merely to reinforce the fact it only takes 2-3 glasses of wine and a bit of food to add a kg!
I understand that visualising and then rejecting food Happy. ☺ I love the way IF has many spin offs on normal days. Learning to wait before eating often results in skipping many meals completely these days. In the past we ate with the clock mindlessly. Now we have none of that pressure. Very freeing, and slimming 😊
Busy preparing for guests today. Lots of exciting flavours. All salad and veg based, with highly flavoured cold meats and some German seedy buns for the bread eaters. Hope the weather holds. Have a great weekend MCs. P 🙄
PS
Hi Carol…we crossed posts! At least we have the skill and understanding to know all is not lost when our weight rises slightly. As Happy says, we are all yoyoers, we just do it within a finer range. 😊😊
I’ll be happy to yo yo between 9.7 and 9.10. I’m just hoping that I will be able to go from breakfast, included of course, and the evening meal. I could happily manage breakfast and main meal at about 4pm, then nothing.
I think taking some fruit will help.
Have a good week, folks. I’ll post when we get home. Thursday evening, I expect.
Pol 😊
Not feeling great today having come home from Spain with a touch of Montezuma’s Revenge, although things are better than yesterday and the day before. I can’t trace the source – unless I caught a bug from someone on the plane. I’m fairly sure it wasn’t anything weird or excessive I ate.
But every cloud has a silver lining. It was too darned hot most of the time to eat any way but modestly – as at home, no breakfast, very light carb-free lunch and rather more generous dinner – and we did a lot of walking. This, together with two days of gippy tum, takes me to what used to be the acceptable upper limit for a healthy BMI, i.e. 27.5, until someone (probably Big Pharma) moved the goalposts to 25. For someone who started with a BMI of 35, this isn’t bad, although it’s taken 3 years 8 months to get there. Of course, I’m still aiming for 25 but am realistic enough to know that it’s highly unlikely.
It’s great when, like Happy, you visualise a treat and then realise you really can’t be bothered. I’ll go and stand in front of supermarket shelves loaded with cakes, biscuits and – more dangerously – the savoury snacks that I find much more tempting, then calmly walk away empty-handed. I will very occasionally succumb to taramasalata or a freshly-baked muffin from M&S. I know my dislike of wine, which since giving up smoking nearly 15 years ago tastes revolting, makes me a miserable old git in some people’s eyes, but it’s very useful calorie-wise.
Hermaj,
Sorry you’ve not had the best end to your holiday. So frustrating, but often the way! You want to come back rested and refreshed, but pick up a bug and come over all damp dishcloth…
Congrats on the BMI though 😀 You know I reckon you’ll see 25 yet, but in Hermaj time!
I’ve been thinking a lot this weekend about simple carbs and sugar, not in a ‘I want them’ way but in a ‘why don’t I want them’ way! I can’t explain it, but I like it 😀
I sit next to a large lady in work who is a complete carb and sugar addict. She wants to lose weight but isn’t prepared to give up cake for even a day. She will calorie restrict, but by cutting out everything but sugar and refined carb. In the past I’ve found myself feeling annoyed with her, and thinking how stupid she is (she isn’t!), but now I guess I have to accept she’s just an addict, and until she realises that and wants to kick her habit she’s going to remain fat and at least pre-diabetic. Sad.
Thanks for the encouragement, Happy. Maybe, it’ll take a decade and a half and I’ll end up as a 90-year-old with a pert little bum.
I think we feel more or less the same way about carb and sugar, most of which I can well live without although I confess a liking for the humble spud. In fact, if I had to choose a single foodstuff to live on for the rest of my life, it would be baked potatoes in their jackets. Not altogether unhealthy, with their fibre and vitamin content – that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. At the moment, I couldn’t even face a small one. 🙁
Well you’ve got me thinking about that desert island food item now! I think I’d have to say nuts, clearly a squirrel in a former life…
Last night I cooked pearl barley as an accompaniment. OH hated it of course (you’re meant to put it in the stew…), but it made an interesting change. And apparently lowest GI/GL of all the grains.
While looking at the GI/GL table, I saw that chickpeas are pretty low and that hummus apparently has a GL of zero! I love hummus but haven’t been making it so frequently recently. Must redress that…
Sorry to hear you’ve come home with unwanted baggage Herm. I hope it shifts soon.
I’m nuts with you Happy. 😊😊
I discovered using pearl barley as a risotto base (salmon is good) in the UK last year. I’ve made it a few times and it was reluctantly eaten by HIM. However he loves the faro salad I make with roasted onion, capsicum and drizzled with lemon. Another good low gi choice. P
Excellent news about pearl barley, which I love,as a variation on rice and hummus, another treat. Fortunately, my OH is willing to try most things. His default food is spag, spag and more spag, interspersed with other pastas, all of which, including spag, I can fortunately take or leave.
Thanks for the good wishes, P. The tum is easing a bit, but now I’ve got a sore throat. Definitely some alien bug.
Good day everybody, you all are doing so good!! I hope the you can help me as I have a dilemma at present. Have to eats oats porridge which I do not like very much but the Calories confuase me. On the box it says 143 calories to 40g serving. Does that mean already cooked? I can’t believe that it can be so high as a good servIng of 240g cooked is 858 calories? Can that be correct?
I shall appreciate your input.
Have a nice day and strongs with the maintenance!!
Hi DragonMama, 40g of uncooked oats, about 0.25 of a cup. Sorry you don’t like them I love oats myself although very rarely eat them now, I’ve switched over to other grains. I can’t recall the calorie content off the top of my head but 40/143 is the same as 240/858 or pretty close.
Based in the conversation above I need to give the pearl barley a try!
We ate it all the times as kids in Mums soup.
Re desert island food, I think I’d have bananas with me. 😊
Hi Carolannfud, thank you but I think you don’t understand my question.
When I weigh 40g raw oats, it weigh 240 g when cooked. I just add water. On the box it says 143 calories to a 40g serving.
It is rather confusing to me because I don’t know how many calories is really in there.
I just don’t like the gluten, its a bit slimy and that is why I don’t like it. I know when we were kids, it was never like that. I think the companies add to much gluten (if that is possible). I rather make Mealiemeal porridge, stay away from the wheat but it gets tedious and it takes So long to cook!!
Have a nice evening.
DragonMama,
For what it’s worth, I’m certain it refers to dry weight, i.e. 40g of oats = 143 cal. Water doesn’t count. You only need to add extra calories if you add milk or a bit of dried fruit. I just checked with my OH who breakfasts on a similar portion of oatbran, 40g of which comes in at 140 cal or thereabouts.
Agree here too, except I have learnt to have 30g of oats. Plenty for a bowl of porridge.
If you don’t like oats, why are you eating them Dragonmama? I didn’t eat any cereals at all when losing weight originally, for a year. Only very occasionally have it now. I don’t have breakfast most days and would rather berries or apple and yoghurt, or a poached egg with tomato or avocado. So much great food. Never necessary to eat things you don’t like. 😊 P
Hi DM…there is no gluten in oats which is why some people with gluten sensivity eat them. I eat them because I enjoy them and they are filling, a good source of insoluable fibre (particularly if you combine them with oatbran).Also they are cheap and easy to prepare and cleanup after if you soak them overnight rather than cook them. Look up Birchers recipes.
One of my favourite meals (doesnt have to be breafast) is 2 heaped tablespoons oats, 1 tablespoon oatbran soaked overnight in enough milk (cows,almond, soy) or juice to just saturate it. Next day you add what you want including fruit, nuts, yohurt, honey, more milk. I like it with grated apple,cinnamon and honey. Sometimes I blitz a handful or raw nuts into half a cup of milk and add that (gives rich creamy mouth taste and is delicious) Note: 1 heaped tablespoon of oats is about 10 grams)
Hi everyone
Good to see you’re all in fine form. I’ve been sparing with posts, as something is using up our broadband Gb and we don’t know what it is. The expert is coming to diagnose sometime in the next few days. Sometimes almost 2 Gb is used in an hour, when we don’t think we are doing anything. He is going to check if we have accidentally turned something on that runs in the background. I’m not techie enough to work it out.
On a fast day and about to scrub the floors and the bathroom. 💃💃😎😎😂😂
Cheers, Bay ☕️☕️
Tell me, Bay…do you still get to go for a walk in the forest while it’s cooling if you use chia seeds?
Inspired by the oats talk I am now sitting down to a delicious warm bowl. ..30g of proper oats, cooked in water in 3 minutes on the stove. I like it not overcooked and I’m sure it’s better for you. Sometimes I sprinkle a few raw oats, berries and nuts on top. Never sugar or milk. Cold and windy today after 32 yesterday! Mad! P
Good Morning to you all and Thank you so much for all the inputs.
I eat oats sometimes and on the box it says it contain gluten. My body react better to rice and maize than wheat and I try to eat the minimum bread. I don’t have a very big choice as berries is Very expensive and I don’t know oatbran, did not see it in the shop. I have to have breakfast as I drink a tablet for my thiroid and it makes me feel funny and jittery if I don’t eat something. Also have very little or no lunch usually.
Bayleafoz you have Virus!! Do all the safety/security and boot scans that you can. Its a bit time consuming but the only way.
I have to loose 2kg and struggle with that.
Hi Bay,
Hope you get your broadband sorted. How annoying.
I saw this and thought of you…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-37567254
I like oats, but very rarely eat them now. I might as well eat white sliced, they just don’t fill me up and leave me carb-hungry two hours later 🙁
Well having not eaten added sugar, and very little refined carb, at the weekend, I found myself lighter on Monday morning than I had been on Saturday morning! Good news on weight maintenance, but..! If I want to fast for health benefits I need to eat less healthily…?!
Love the golf link Happy! How very Scottish 😊
Interestingly, after eating 30g of oats this morning, now 8 hours later, I’ve eaten nothing more. Just water and coffee. I seem to have reached a stage when I can spring on a non eating period any time of day. And I’m lighter than I’ve been for a while. Go figure? P
Hi everyone,
A question for the ladies. At what point did you get your final bra size. I’ve lost 19kgs, still that couple to go, and have just tightened the back of the bra as I go. I would really like to replace them now, but don’t want to go to the expense unneccesarily. I’ve got 2-3 kgs to go, then may go down another 2-3 kgs over the following year. Any advice welcome🙂
Cheers,
Merry
Hi Merry
Tricky question and an expensive exercise. You’ll probably always bounce around about 3kg so I’d buy a couple now and see how you go. Certainly good for the self esteem too!
Trinny and Susannah (remember ‘What Not To Wear’?) used to say never to wear a bra on the tightest or loosest hook. 🙄
I replaced most of my wardrobe twice while losing weight. Very frustrating, but now I only have clothes that fit properly. I don’t keep ill-fitting clothes any more.
Have fun shopping. P 😊
Hi Merry,
I’m not the best person to ask as I was very resistant to spending money on new smaller clothes!
If your current bras are woefully inadequate and not fit for purpose, then investing in at least one new one that fits now won’t be money wasted.
I would caution on going mad though! My shape continued to change for many months after I’d stop losing weight. So even bras bought when you hit your goal weight might be wrong 12 months later.
Thanks you lovely maintainers! Going out tomorrow to get at least 1, probably 2. My current ones aren’t totally over the hill, but I’m now on the tightest hooks. Don’t tell Trinny and Suse! I’m now aware they’re not fitting anyway, and it’s irritating, and otherwise I feel so good to be a normal weight and I’m even getting used to how I look. The 12 month thing while maintaining is interesting. But I think I can see the possibility of my shape changing even when my weight will be the same give or take a kg or 2. I just want to maximise the bang for my buck, so to speak, so I really appreciate your advice😀
Cheers,
Merry
Just a (fausse naive?) question for T and S: what do they think the tightest/loosest hooks are there for???! Advice from the best bra fitter (free!) in SW England: buy the bra you need to fasten in the loosest hook (making sure cups are right, obviously); replace it when you need to fasten in the tightest. That’s why they’re made that way. And Happy’s right: size may or may not go on changing after you reach target weight, but shape and density probably will, so you may need to change style. I now need a ‘balconette ‘ as I don’t fill the top half of a full cup, but fall out sideways (to the middle) from a plunge. Not pretty!
Find an experienced fitter, tell her the circa, enjoy the experience and then preen at the sight of your pert, supported boobs every time you pass a mirror. It’s a great feeling – well done!
Hi Merry
Well done! And welcome to maintenance. In a long ago post I admitted to an embarrassing time with a specialist bra fitter in DJs. She got me to try everything, and then came back with the very bra I was wearing. When I said so, she took one look at the existing bra and tightened the shoulder straps by about 3 inches. I had lost a huge amount of flab from my shoulders and back of the neck and back and torso. I completely lost the widows peak, the bump at the top of the spine. It turned out to be my camel store of fat for Winter. Haha!
I haven’t changed cup size from that time to this, almost 3 years later.
Cheers, Bay 💃💃💃🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
Need to make clear, having read that over: that wasn’t me claiming to be the best bra fitter in the SW – just a woman I met last year, in a tiny specialist shop with more bras than I’ve ever seen together in one (minuscule) place. She’s absolutely free, the bras are no more expensive than in a well known store where I’ve never been accurately fitted, and – having promised to spend all afternoon and go through the entire stock if necessary – she found me a perfect bra with one measurement and a skilfully appraising eye. Worth her weight, as they say!
What would Trinny and Susannah think? 😉 Actually, regularly tightening the straps can make you look a lot better.
It’s interesting how, when you are thinner, you need to wear clothes that actually fit properly. No longer hiding under tents. It also means sticking to a small fluctuating range so that the clothes continue to look good!
Keep up the good work girls. P 😊
New bras are an important ongoing expensive issue Merry. I would buy a new one or two but don’t go crazy because one year into maintenance I am still having trouble with the new bras I have bought not feeling that comfortable and not fitting well and so still buying bras. I’ve found the ongoing bra saga very frustrating!
I’m the same cup size but two sizes smaller across the back.
You’ve raised a good point though Fast, I wonder if the style I am buying (which is the one that always suited me best) now doesn’t suit my new shape boobs.
Maybe it’s time I saw an expert. Wish I could see yours Fast! 😊
I’m not sure what ‘balconette’ bras are, but I wear padded bras in a desperate attempt to not look like a boy. Considering I was one of those that threw them away in the 70s and 80s 😊😊😊😊 The only tome in my life that I had a cleavage was when I was fat.
Bought a new 2 piece swimming costume today (size 10). I find it hard to fill out their cups 😐
P
Hi P,
Balconette is just a term for a bra that isn’t full cup, it covers the lower half so gives support and uplift but doesn’t cover the top half, great if you’ve lost fat from up top since a full cup bra leaves you with a lot of wrinkly unfilled material…
I’m in padded bras too these days, something I’ve always avoided. I was informed by an assistant recently that manufacturers don’t make unpadded bras in my size because women with small chests want padding. I’ve never been into faking, but actually have to admit that women’s clothes do tend to fit better if you have a bit of a chest.. and in the right place!
I guess you could have bought an 8 and a 10 to get fit up top and down below? A bit wasteful though… Cotton wool it is 🙂
Balconette sounds very Georgian
… bosoms flowing over!
You pay for tops and bottoms separately these days. Clever ploy to charge more. The 10 fits well and probably won’t create exposure when I dive! Just had to get a style (classic 1940s) that will stay up. ☺☺ Freezing wind here again, so swimming is on hold. Cooking a warm meal for our fast dinner. …brrrr.
Thanks everyone. I’ve really got the help I needed and enjoyed the conversation. I pulled up the straps a bit more and that helped, on furthest hooks from yesterday, that helped too. I tried on a size down in the same bra. They’re quite expensive so I wanted to make sure the size down fitted, which it did, but a wee bit tight around the back. So… I’m going to keep on for another few weeks till the last 3 kgs are gone, then get the new ones
So good to be wearing normal sized clothes and undies! Thanks again !
Cheers 🙂
Merry
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