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I’m so exhausted today, simply not enough calories.basically trying too hard. I need to listen to what body is telling me . Sleep.
Havent read what’s current, but wanted to speak to Emil .
Your advisor is spot on. And ask that person about 4:3 for weight loss. Or if has knowledge of TDEE.
And please familiarize yourself with this sites TDEE calculations.
Not everyone can fast , or should I say be tolerant of fasting long term for weight loss. In the beginning it much more important to learn what works and what doesn’t. Rather than If the scales are moving.
There are only three proven methods to increase longevity, walking, fasting, and healthy diet.
There are many ways to lose fat, but the common denominator is the calorie intake vs calories used.
Micheals books work, just as many other diet books work. IMO the fasting approach works for those whom exercise or are sedentary not many diets can claim that. I’ve lost over 50, but I still a lot to lose. It’s not all been fasting. For me it’s been learning to adapt fasting to my changing schedules. I still lose 2-4 lbs a month. While 3 squares at least 4 days a week . I never feel like I’m on a starvation marathon.
By being on this forum I picked up the insight to eat food. The protein shakes and meal replacements. Don’t seem to satisfy over extended periods for me. But I use them to keep from binging if I fail a fast day . So learning to two small fasting meals on fast day, and 3 TDEE or below on feed days has served me well.
Best wishes.
Recommended reading.
https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2002/11/calorie-restriction-explained.php
Yet, getting old is a natural process where things are slowing down, and you’ll begin to see that the sparkle in your heart and the twinkle in your eyes make you beautiful in a way that’s not achievable in youth.
Go through this list of growing old quotes. Many of them are light-hearted, some are funny and a few are inspiring.
May you retain the beauty of your soul with these aging quotes!
About the only thing that comes to us without effort is old age.
— Gloria Pitzer
Age does not diminish the extreme disappointment of having a scoop of ice cream fall from the cone.
— Jim Fiebig
Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter.
— Mark Twain
‘Age’ is the acceptance of a term of years. But maturity is the glory of years.
— Martha Graham
The best way to keep kids at home is to make the home a pleasant atmosphere…and let the air out of their tires.
— Dorothy Parker
The first sign of maturity is the discovery that the volume knob also turns to the left.
— Jerry M. Wright
The follies which a man regrets most in his life are those which he didn’t commit when he had the opportunity.
— Helen Rowland
The great thing about getting older is that you don’t lose all the other ages you’ve been.
— Madeleine L’Engle
The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.
— Author Unknown
The time to begin most things is ten years ago.
— Mignon McLaughlin
The older you get, the more you tell it like it used to be.
— Author Unknown
The great secret that all old people share is that you really haven’t changed in 70 or 80 years. Your body changes, but you don’t change at all.
— Doris Lessing
There’s always a lot to be thankful for if you take time to look for it. For example, I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don’t hurt.
— Author Unknown
Time wounds all heels.
— Dorothy Parker
To keep the heart unwrinkled, to be hopeful, kindly, cheerful, reverent – that is to triumph over old age.
— Thomas Bailey Aldrich
You don’t stop laughing because you grow old. You grow old because you stop laughing.
— Michael Pritchard
You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make you want to live to be a hundred.
— Woody Allen
You can only perceive real beauty in a person as they get older.
— Anouk Aimee
You can’t hide your true colours as you approach the autumn of your life.
— Author Unknown
You know you’re getting old when you stoop to tie your shoelaces and wonder what else you could do while you’re down there.
— George Burns
Age to me means nothing. I can’t get old; I’m working. I was old when I was twenty-one and out of work. As long as you’re working, you stay young. When I’m in front of an audience, all that love and vitality sweeps over me and I forget my age.
— George Burns
As the arteries grow hard, the heart grows soft.
— H. L. Mencken
As we grow old…the beauty steals inward.
— Ralph Waldo Emerson
At twenty we worry about what others think of us; at forty we don’t care about what others think of us; at sixty we discover they haven’t been thinking about us at all.
— Author Unknown
Beautiful young people are accidents of nature, but beautiful old people are works of art.
— Eleanor Roosevelt
Do not resent growing old. Many are denied the privilege.
— Author Unknown
Grandchildren don’t make a man feel old; it’s the knowledge that he’s married to a grandmother.
— Agatha Christie
I have enjoyed greatly the second blooming… suddenly you find – at the age of 50, say – that a whole new life has opened before you.
— Agatha Christie
I intend to live forever, or die trying.
— Groucho Marx
I was always taught to respect my elders and I’ve now reached the age when I don’t have anybody to respect.
— George Burns
I’m not denying my age, I’m embellishing my youth.
— Tamara Reynolds
In a dream you are never eighty.
— Anne Sexton
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened.
— Jennifer Yane
Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.
— Soren Kierkegaard
Middle age is when you choose cereal for the fiber, not the toy.
— Author Unknown
Old age is no place for sissies.
— Bette Davis
Old age isn’t so bad when you consider the alternative.
— Maurice Chevalier
Once you’re over the hill, you begin to pick up speed.
— Charles M. Schulz
Retirement is the period when you exchange the bills in your wallet for snapshots of your grandchildren.
— Author Unknown
The best part about being my age is in knowing how my life worked out. Sure, there’s a lot more living to go, but there isn’t much doubt that I’ll always be the ‘Dilbert guy.’ Unless I go on a crime spree, in which case I’ll be ‘that stabbin’ Dilbert guy.’
— Scott Adams
Thanks Jojo I will find the BBC programme tomorrow .
SAMM I am old but I don’t feel old . I am young at heart and laugh a lot and I think both keep me young ( if only in mind). I look in the mirror and this wee auld woman stands in front of me …so I never get a proper look at myself wink. wink . Age is just a number .
I am on the facebook group .
Wee xx
Happy fast day people I think that would be the majority on here on the Mon & Thurs regime.This will close out my fourth day B2B and I am looking forward to getting home tomorrow and I have enjoyed the challenge..
On Monday night on Australian TV on the ABC a Documentary it was called ‘Fat Chance’ I watched it live and I put in the link for your all your viewing pleasure
iview.abc.net.au/programs/four-corners/NC1404H038S00
it does run for 46min however…Inspiration is a mere click of your mouse away fast trackers..Enjoy
Peace
RT
Hi jojo and Yorkies,
Thanks for the coach suggestion, jojo. It would be very good from the fast point of view. I feel so sick on coaches I wouldn’t want to eat for the next 24 hours. And I wouldn’t be much fun either.
I’m happy to do there and back by train on the Saturday. I’ll book sooner rather than later if you give me some idea of timings.
Cathyork posted recently. She’s from Manchester but York is a favourite place of hers.
Forgot to mention I’m on Facebook just as me. Could someone tell me how to connect with the 5:2 FB group? Thanks.
More great quotes, SAMM. I’m a sucker for quotes from Groucho and Woody Allen. Anouk Aimee was one of the women I wanted to be when I was young. Another was Juliette Greco. She’s now 83, still singing in the same lovely sexy way and looking pretty good, too.
Good morning fast trackers.
Another very cold cloudy day, by Australian standards anyway. 😉 It was supposed to be 24 today but I don’t think it will make it, being 1120hrs now.
SAMM, thanks for more great quotes.
Weemam, I don’t remember congratulating you earlier on your 2st loss – apologies. Such fun trying on ‘new’ old clothes previously grown out of.
Emel, don’t think it registered before that you’re also from SA, like Aussie Oma and me.
Despite a few weeks of being quite undisciplined on non-FDs the scales showed a new low this morning, another 0.4kg and 1cm from my waist up in smoke. Mon-Wed pretty good with about 2,400C total for the 3 days, including 2 FDs. MUST NOT EAT BETWEEN MEALS – apologies for cyber-shouting but need to speak very firmly to myself to get good results like all you excellent examples. 🙂
Keep up the good work all. N
Morning all.
It is a lovely sunny morning with a bright blue sky. I hope it stays that way 🙂
Nicky, I’ve put a swimsuit photo of my slender 30 year old self on the fridge door, and if I go to the fridge it’s at eye level so I can’t miss it. It has made a difference, because when I’ve been tempted to snack I’ve looked at it and either got the sparkling water or a carrot rather than anything that would spoil my eating plan.
FD today. Things went a bit awry yesterday evening and I ate more than intended, but I didn’t exceed my TDEE so it isn’t all bad. I’ll have to do some extra exercise today to make up for it.
Have a good day/evening everyone.
Hi Smiffy,
The programme was very thought provoking. I was thinking about a generation of children who don’t go outside but sit in their rooms glued to a TV/computer/tablet/phone who are usually driven to and from school, and rarely walk anywhere. It’s not just vitamin D deficiency that needs to be worried about!
Did anyone else notice that the two people from the office who were most at risk were the most overweight in the group? Was that just a coincidence or are they both couch potatoes with poor diets?
The fat discussion was very interesting. The Norwegian expert wasn’t very convincing other than saying he disagreed with everything that had been said in favour of dietary fat, he had nothing to offer. He said he wanted to see the evidence despite the fact that the report that concluded that some types of dietary fat are not harmful, was a compilation of a number of studies.
As for the pasta experiment, re-heated leftovers anyone?
weemam,
We would love to have met you but it’s completely understandable that you can’t make it.
If it’s any consolation, as I think we’ve already discussed I’m going to be in Glasgow for a few days doing research for a book on the Glasgow Tenement House sometime in the spring or early summer. Stirling is dead easy to reach by train from there, so I could pop round. 🙂
Hi all, well woke up early again and was tired as I drove to work but something happened and i felt energised by the afternoon. I am cold so that must be part of the process. Tomorrow a fast day so hoping by Saturday the scales will have moved. Mm a protein drink may be a strategy. Well am tired now so best retire. One week almost completed! Emel
I’ve been to Costa Rica and Venezuela. Cuba will be a completely different experience altogether. It is quite a relaxed trip and different from my usual adventures. I shall empty the wardrobe in a couple of weeks time and see what fits both me and the trip!
Talking of which I have two pairs of jeans both of which are now getting too big. I bought a belt thinking it would save me buying more jeans that will (hopefully) be too big in 6 months time, but wearing it makes the jeans look dreadful. I was looking for something in the wardrobe this morning and found yet another pair of unworn jeans in a size 14. They fit perfectly 🙂 🙂 🙂
Swans off to Kew with a smug grin on her face……………….
Jojo, that isn’t a link, it appears to be an e-mail address.
If it is the one with the surfer, here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8asRWe5XNw8
And yes, it is cheesy but good 🙂
I am thrilled at being able to wear a size 14 again. I’ve also been wearing a sleeveless fleece that I bought in India in January last year. It was much too small when I bought it but I can zip it up now. I want to go and search the chest of drawers and the wardrobe now to see if I can find anything else!
I have sushi and a Vietnamese prawn crystal roll for dinner, and after all the exercise I’ve done today I’m really looking forward to it.
I have atoned for the bottle of cider I drank last night 😆
Love the ad, Jojo. We love Gisele around here, as she is married to our hometown hero quarterback, Tom Brady of the New England Patriots!
Huge congrats on your new pants size! So gratifying when it happens!
Fasting is very good this week. I had allowed a few pounds to creep on, but after one true and a couple of semi-fasts this week, I have dropped the offending 3.6 pounds, and am back to my usual nine pounds left to lose. i am feeling on track, but lately I am easily knocked off.
Let me know the name of the FB group so I can enviously follow your plans!
Hi ply. The good thing about this WOE is that it doesn’t take long to get back on track. I’ve been so motivated for the past nine weeks and I nearly lost it yesterday, but the smaller jeans and a holiday in less than 5 weeks have helped me through my FD today. I’m doing ADF at the moment and am hoping to continue with it until the holiday.
I wish I had only 9 pounds left to lose, but I’ll get there eventually. I’m aiming to be at goal or thereabouts by next Easter.
Am I the only one who doesn’t do FB? 🙁
Jojo, I forgot to say well done on the size 14. It’ll be a 12 soon 🙂
Hiya all, cold again here today bonnie Scotland .
Herm I would love to meet you so yes please come . It’s just a hop skip and a jump from Glasgow to here .
Amazon it is brilliant finding things never worn because they were bought ( to slim into),
You are all doing so well.:) 🙂 :). isn’t it great that we all support each other :).
When I went into dads place today the head nurse asked if I was loosing weight . I said 2 stone and thank you so much for noticing :). She said she couldn’t help but notice as the weight was just falling off me . so we now have 3 of the staff going on the 5.2 lol.
I am just saying have a great day everyone and so sorry that I can’t remember all of the names .
As I read all the posts I know who you are but I have never been good with names . I even called Ross shep one day lol I am on FB but I only talk about my weight loss in the private messaging . But please feel free to add me if you want /
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I enjoyed the link xx
Wee xx
Hi Purple,
I meant to get back to you yesterday about potential misbehaviour at Buck House. 😉 The prevous evening we saw a clip of Charles visiting somewhere in Polynesia and giving a speech in Pidjin English, which I believe is the majority language in that part of the world. Poor chap is not much good at languages and made a real pig’s ear of it.
Even worse, though, was the uniform, from God knows where, representing God knows what, that he was dolled up in. There are still jokes circulating about Prince Harry showing up at a fancy dress do wearing Nazi uniform, but his old man is just as bad. He looked like a right-wing dictator in a dark green uniform smothered in cord, gold bits, ribbons, medals, etc. He looked more like Gadafi or Pinochet than the heir to the throne.
I used to quite like old Charlie but he seems to going more and more bonkers with each passing year. Or perhaps to be fair to him, he’s surrounded himself with a bunch of advisors who are completely out-to-lunch.
Quick post for jojo et al before I go out,
I think I may have solved the accomodation problem. I went on to airb&b, who we’ve booked apartments with several times. This time I looked for a private room – just for a night I guess I can bear sharing a bathroom (spoilt little madam that I am). There are several nice ones close to the city centre – or no more than a short bus ride away – for £36 or thereabouts. Hopefully by tomorrow I’ll have everything sorted. 🙂
wee – you never know, there may be others who would like to travel up to Scotland to see you. 🙂 Sorry if you are feeling the cold. Would you believe I have twice been up to Glasgow for a few days and come home with a suntan! Scottish weather, it seems, isn’t always as bad as it’s cracked up to be. 🙂
JoJo58 I would love to join you but I’m not sure I can keep up with all the posts!
I do, however, read the thread all the time as I can relate to so much on it and am encouraged by the support you all give each other.
To be brief I’ve lost about 26lb in the last 12 months. I started 5:2 to lose weight but also because I was diagnosed as being pre-diabetic (tests imminent to prove I’m not now). I’m currently 11stone 3.4lbs but, before my trip to Australia had got down to 11st 0.4lb (the 0.4lbs have to be said!)I am trying to be extra good up to Christmas as I would love to get to 10stone 7lb by then but I’ve already indulged in chocolates and a piece of cream cake this week when I should have been fasting! Like someone said I think I have got a bit complacent because I like the way I look now but I know I need to lose more so need to carry on – need to get rid of the belly fat! Plus, I don’t want to the weight to start creeping up again although I know I can do something about it now.
It’s still hard for me sometimes to resist the stuff I know I shouldn’t have and it’s weird how sometimes I can and sometimes I can’t. What I have learnt on the WOE is that I won’t die if I don’t eat for a while and that it’s ok to have an “off day” or an “off week” as long as you pick yourself up and carry on. I am also more aware of what I’m eating and portion sizes but I still need willpower sometimes!
It certainly is a good feeling when you have to get new clothes and I have got rid of a lot of mine as I am determined that I won’t be needing them again. I will be 60 next March and my goal is one of those body con type dresses – as long as I don’t look like Mutton dressed as Lamb!
I think I’ve said enough for now – don’t want to repeat what others have said but thanks for reading anyway. Linda
Hermaj
You made a comment to PVE, but I cannot let it go uncommented.
Let me correct you about your comment about ‘Pidgin English’. This is a colonial term and incorrect. The language is not the same over ‘ our part of the world’. The Pacific is divided into several parts. In Polynesia they speak Polynesian which is similar in Hawaii, Easter Is and NZ. In Melanesia there are over 1000 languages, there is a lingua franca in some parts. But the language differs according to whether you are in PNG, Solomons or Vanuatu or other parts I don’t know. It is called Neo-Melanesian and is not English. In Vanuatu, the language is called Bislama(from Bêche de mer=sea cucumber).
I would be surprised that Charles can speak this maligned language. It’s tricky as it has only two prepositions ‘long’ and ‘belong’ and a grammar which is not English.
The Australian Aborigines have 360 languages.
Maybe in New Caledonia there is a Creole based on French, but I don’t know that.
I don’t speak Neo-Melanesian in spite of 3 years exposure.
I hope this clears up your misinformation about Pidgin English.
KiwiWiwi
also, @jojo, I am one of your American cousins, not Australian!
I am sooo disappointed that I’ll be away for York, but I’ll be there is spirit, and will move mountains to be in Glasgow in the spring 🙂
Jojo, once again inspired by you, I decided to stop faffing around trying out B2B then single days, and moving them around and stick to something easy. It isn’t difficult to work out that if I’m fasting on Friday then I won’t be doing so next Friday, so it won’t mess up the social calendar.
No love in my life either, but I would rather be single than in an unhappy situation.
The veggie bolognaise sounds delicious. I have so much in the freezer that there is room for no more. However, when I was shopping today I noticed brussel sprouts, and I love them. I have an ancient vegetarian cookbook that has a recipe for chestnuts and sprouts in a lemon sauce. It is a casserole and reheats well. I have some chestnuts in the freezer that have been there for far too long, so I’m going to cook it tomorrow and have it with some chicken, and the remainder can be Saturday’s FD dinner
Hello JoJo and fast trackers.
Lovely sounding foods, JoJo. You sound like an expert on Vegan food.
We were wondering if after watching MM’s programme last night whether fresh pasta would have a sugar spike, like dried pasta. What is the process of making it. Is it cooked first or just packaged wet?
I had chickpeas today too, with peppers, shallots and garlic- about 500cals. My 6km walk just nicely took my net calorie intake today to 0.
Your York venture sounds great, sorry not to be there. But I saw the Aussies suggesting a nice Pacific island to meet. I have 15K air miles with Emirates/Qantas to use up. A good scheme, PVE, NickyF, Bay.
Good fasting
KiwiWiwi
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