Oops here I am! 🌴😊 Oh geez Chubs could you make me want those shoes more than I already did just looking at them?? Right Lolly I’m drooling over here too. You know what, I’m going to make them MY reward too. They look and sound awesome and doggone it, I need a good reward besides all this good health and looking good stuff. I’m loving that but in the back of my mind there is the knowledge that I will have to consciously “maintain” for the rest of my life. So the new shoes can’t hurt my attitude at ALL. And to be honest, my attitude can always use improving.

Whew I made it through a real honest to goodness under-500 FD yesterday. 💪 Gave half a thought to doing 2 in a row, but that lasted until around 9 a.m. I wisely packed some peanuts and an apple the size of a baby’s head, I’m sure I looked like a mule at work as I ate it. 🐴 (Or maybe 🐗) But it feels good to be de-sugared again, if one can call 3 days without sugar that. Well, better say 2, as I had teriyaki Monday night and there was maybe half a bucketful of sugar in that. As I’ve said before though, a lot of my problem is in my head, so if I haven’t ripped into a doughnut already, a sweet main course doesn’t set me off.

I think I am satisfying my 30-min daily workout by carrying these papers back and forth to work. I’m hoping that at some point they will grade themselves out of desperation (and therein lies my attitude problem). In the meantime, it’s not a bad strength exercise. 👍

Karen seriously you wash your running shoes? Mine get kind of grubby but I’ve never thought to do that. Are you a native Deutchlander? I spent a summer over there eons ago and it was gorgeous, we were in Marburg for classes but then travelled around to Hamburg, Berlin, and I can’t remember where else. Haven’t spoken a word of it since! Keine Worten!

All right it’s time to cook something that will not wreck my efforts yesterday. I’m thinking chicken. And back to my lemon water too! Bought a lifetime supply of lemons that unfortunately starts to rot after a few weeks, so better start squeezing. 🍋🍋🍋 Happy FD to anyone on that road today, slow and steady wins the race. 🐢🐢 xxxx

Speaking of foodie tips– now that Summer is approaching — did you know you can substantially improve the life and appearance of berries by washing them in hot water? No kidding! I makes a tremendous difference in how they hold up.

Just run them under the hottest water that comes from your tap for about a minute when you bring them home from the store. I do it right in the little plastic clamshell boxes they’re sold in. Then shake them dry as you can. Put in some absorbent paper towel to take care of the residual water and put them in the fridge. They’ll stay fresh for days and strawberries can still be edible in a week.

Seems berries carry the spores of the molds that grow on them so quickly once we get them home. But the hot water kills them without changing the flavor or texture of the fruit. You may be startled to see the bloom come off blueberries but it will come back. And it’s only a matter of appearance — even though that dark, dark solid color can be disconcerting at first. You haven’t wrecked them and they’ll taste and feel the same.

Oh, wow those are both good ideas….if only I didn’t wait until the lemons are hard greenish pucks in the back of my fridge. Wow, Lolly, lemon ice cubes, I’m a lemon lover and those just sound yummy.

I think I undid my virtuous FD with chicken. Fried chicken…and livers. Hubs decided to pick some up. Nice and salty too – I’ve had about 10 glasses of water since then too. Hide the scale!!! xxx

I have really loved reading this thread– such honesty and openess from everyone – I am 47 and have 3 kids and am in early menopause…. All recipes for weight loss issues!! On top of those things, I love to eat… My downfall is chips and ice cream. I have been doing ADF for 4 wks and have lost 8 lbs. I do not restrict on feed days or count calories b/c both make me crazy and then I eat more!! I am noticing that allowing myself any food I want is helping to take the charge out of it and I am binging less. I have 15 more lbs to lose and I’m really hoping to wear a bathing suit in public again without feeling uncomfortable– I live by the beach and never ever go there in shorts, much less a bathing suit!! Glad to have found this site… Struggling with a bit of insomnia– hence my midnight post!! Hope all of you are sleeping peacefully!!–
CaliB

Thanks for the warm welcome- you gals are really funny and your posts always make me laugh!! Today is a FD and I woke up starving– not a great way to start but I will try to down lots of warm drinks and that should help. Everyone on the other thread I’m on raves about miso soup so maybe I’ll check out the calorie count to help me along…. Going to the movies tomorrow with a friend and all I can think about is the popcorn!! I get a large bucket and eat the whole thing!! My kids are always amazed that one person can eat so much popcorn!! Hope you all have a great day!!

I’m still quietly hanging in with my 90-day promise, comespring! Two weeks, now. Because of physical limitations I’ve had to cap it at 2×15 minutes daily, but I can tell even that is making a big difference. My legs would be willing to go on, if I could leave my back home to rest!

I’m glad we are doing this, even if I still have to overcome inertia every single day to start moving. I KNOW I’ll feel better for it afterwards, but getting to afterwards takes starting!

Don’t know what will work for you guys but I listen to audio books while I’m working out on a recumbent bike at the gym. I choose something engrossing. Right now it’s Naomi Novik’s Temeraire series. Then I close my eyes so I’m not distracted by visual stimuli from the story — like who’s wearing what and how long I have to go and what interval is coming up next — and just let the physical stuff go on autopilot. An hour just vanishes!

Not saying some intervals aren’t a *lot* harder than others and that they don’t intrude but I just try to concentrate on the story and power through them. But that’s the smallest part of my program. And I feel GREAT when I’m done. …wrung out but GREAT!

Happily, I have 5 more books to go before I have to find something equally engrossing.

Chub- to answer your question about ADF-I truly do every other day fasting. I was contemplating Monday Wednesday Friday fasting and maybe I will move into that after another month or so of this. I have so much trouble with the feed days that this works way better for me right now.

Too funny, Lolly, but I think they make those sneaks but the tens of thousands so I bet there’s a pair out there for you. They’ve adapted that design to a conventional low profile too. It’s the lightweight, breathable knit that I think makes them so cool. Literally and figuratively. 😏

Smart cookie to be woking out your body and your brain at the same time!

What an odd coincidence, CaliBikini. We’re in Woodland Hills on the other side of the mountains from Malibu where the ordinary folk live. And we sent our son to college at UCSC. I think your area is about as beautiful as CA gets. And what a great campus that — so far — has respected the environment and made the most of it.

We in the LA area are grateful for our canyons tho. They’re not often green but there are still the majestic mountains and dramatic terrain and they can make a morning commute a little like a short vacation. …so long as being in bumper to bumper traffic going through them isn’t a PITA. 😏

My grandson goes to kindergarten in a school situated near Malibu Canyon State Park. It’s an idyllic spot for kids to explore and grow.

Congrats on the ADF!!! I’ll think of you and use you as an inspiration when I try to add a 3rd FD this week. Ooooops! That’s *tomorrow*!

Hi all and welcome Cali! Great to read from you 🙂
I will be in the US in May and definitely check out the Nike sneakers then. The exchange rate to the EUR makes it always tempting to by new sports wear on the other side of the Atlantic.
I am German and live in Germany, in Berlin actually, but we do have a cottage North of Berlin where we spend a fair amount of time. Jade, how good of you to still remember some German words, it is a super difficult language with a complex grammar that is even worse than the French one. I am glad I grew up with it, wouldn’t want to learn it as a new language 😉
Chubs, thanks for the berries tip with the hot water. Makes a lot of sense, I will try it tomorrow when I buy strawberries.
Great idea also with the audio books. On my runs I always have headphones on, too, but I have various Spotify music playlists that I vary according to my mood. When running, I love my disco playlist. An all time favorite is the Coldplay Viva la vida album, or the Green Day 21st century album. Every other months I cruise through the spotify universe to find new tracks for my playlists – great great fun 🙂
But maybe some words on the issue that brought us all together: the 5:2 still works well for me. Today I had a NFD and wanted to save most calories for a dinner that I was attending. Turned out that was able to order a nice salad and some steamed veggies, so it was a super low cal affair. Stayed away from the bread (yes!) and the dessert (yes yes!). No carbs other than a bit of fruit today (this inspiration I owe to Lolly, I can only recommend you to stop by her thread and read about her LCHF experience). Tomorrow is FD and it is the very first time that I have NOT indulged in a bit of a calorie evening feast directly ahead of one.
Have a nice evening, all.
Karen

Good morning everyone, it was so lovely to wake to all this overnight activity while I’ve been sound asleep! I loved your comment coldpizza that ‘It is easier NOT to do something for 90 days, than DOING something.’ 🙂 Haha, so true and I’m already feeling a little overwhelmed at my commitment. Still, if I don’t commit I’d never do, so I’ll just have to white knuckle it some more.

Lolly, the 2×15 is every bit as good as 30 minutes, so well done!

Tango, I also throw my sneakers in the wash (some would call them ‘running shoes’ but they don’t know what that means and I wouldn’t want to give them any ideas…).

Chubs, I’ve been icing my poor joints an awful lot but I think the real problem is that I still weigh too much for a lot of weight-bearing exercise, so it’s still probably not the best option for me. Problem is that the (dastardly) dogs are not allowed in the pool to swim laps with me and it’s also illegal to have a dog run beside you on a lead when you’re on a bicycle (a bizarre law, but there you have it) so walking is my only other option for wearing them out and keeping them quiet at night. I’ve been thinking about modifying a small engine to make my rotary clothesline rotate and I could tie them to the line to walk in circles… you can clearly see that the sleepless puppies are getting to me 🙂 I love the idea of talking books while exercising – I often listen to podcasts from our Radio National programs, especially interviews with amazing people.

A confession: all this talk of ADF and actually enjoying FD’s is too much for me. Of course I think you’re all amazing and I genuinely congratulate your efforts but at the moment I can’t manage a single clean FD and sadly I’ve gained weight this week despite my hope that I’d stay the same, so I’m not a happy Vegemite and must confess to intense envy of your success. Sad is not really accurate either though, as I’m actually mad as hell at myself and of course that only makes the desire to eat for comfort that much stronger – my inner 14-year-old crazy b*&^h has the reins 🙁 Shameful stuff, but there it is, grist for the Island mill. I’m clearly eating so mindlessly because the gain this week was a genuine shock: I just can’t recall eating enough to GAIN weight, so I think I’ll start a 2 week food diary and reassess.

Happy shrinking to you all. Spring xx

Listen, comespring, I figure we all have our good periods and our down ones. When in a down cycle I think it’s good to see someone else thriving. …for a while. It keeps the dream alive while we’re struggling. And at some point, you’ll be carrying the torch and we’ll be believing if you can do it then we can get through our rough patches.

Did you see the link I posted for Tango. I’d ask those folks how they managed exercising their dogs through their knee issues. I bet someone will have a thought. Meanwhile, can you drive them to a park with an open area and stand or sit and throw them balls to retrieve? Let them do the running!

This is a very long-term effort for all of us. I guess that we all will count in some ways calories for the rest of our lives and control our weight. We will never be “normal” in the sense that we don’t have to worry at all about what we eat. There will always be certain limitations, either with regards to the kind of food we eat or the amounts that we eat.
Sometimes this will be easier, very often it will be tough. The best that I am hoping for is that I find a way (or maybe call it a rhythm) that works well for me more often than it doesn’t work for me. I still trying to figure out whether I rather cut out certain food, like bread, completely, or rather enjoy it but need to limit forever the quantities that I am eating.
Lolly seems to have found a way that works perfectly for her. Again, her thread is very inspiring. She is limiting her carbs (quite strictly), but otherwise doesn’t worry to much about what she eats. Lolly, really so glad for you that you found what works for you!
Anyhow, Spring, I can completely understand that you are very frustrated. Gaining weight without even eating lots of nice stuff is super hard. Don’t beat yourself up on it, though. That might make it worse, no? I tend to eat quite a bit if I am mad at myself. Your idea about a food journal/diary sounds just right. Good luck with overcoming your bad mood – may there be lots of sunshine in your heart again soon – sending you lots of good wishes for it 🙂
Karen

Whoa doggies, lots of activity on the island! I’ve had an uncharacteristically busy workweek in terms of face time. Few chances to sit and ruminate in the cave. 🤔 Glad that’s over! Last night I actually got in a 30 min walk with the pups, after dinner – probably because it was a FD dinner, which goes fast lol 😆. Wasn’t a true FD though, I had a big handful of peanuts before a meeting and then some popcorn. But rather than just put an X thru the day, I went on as though that hadn’t happened. HA. Anyway, thanks to a light dinner, I still feel rather virtuous. I think that’s why this plan works for me (better than any other, at least) — every day is different, so why not look at parts of the day the same way, rather than give in to defeat. I’m only lecturing myself here, FWIW.

Hey there CaliB and welcome! (I don’t think I have said that before now even though I’ve been reading. If I have, well…welcome again!) Boy does that sound familiar, the anticipatory stomach-ache. Had those enough with ice cream (a touch of lac-intol) that I never have it anymore. I associate it with pain. And more and more, I do that with sugar! Aside from the blood chem stuff (which I know is true, but in varying degrees for each person), it’s making the NOT doing something a habit that my body is used to. I can tell my body doesn’t appreciate an overdose of sugar now, whereas before it was just the norm. So now when I eat too many sweets (because right, I’m still a moron 😂), I feel worse than ever. So I’m weirdly excited about that.

Dear Spring, not giving up means just that. Keeping the flame going, even if it’s small and always deep inside your brain, even guarded by lizards 🐉🐉!! Even the worst binger of all time, which you are not (just take a gander at reality tv), will eventually wear those lizards down by not giving up. That’s where I’ve been for months at a time. Heck it’s probably where I still am but just doing SOMETHING with the positive goal of health and weight control is better than nothing. Someone said that more eloquently, I’ll have to go back and check 😉. Lolly who’s doing 15 min+15 min, you inspired me to get my ass out the door last night even though I initially thought it’s too late and why bother, just to walk. Afterward, I felt great, just to have done something. Annette has gotten me going many a time just by saying “if I can do it, anyone can.” Now, I think Annette is a wizard as most of you know, but still I know she has such similar struggles that it’s possible for me to succeed too. And we’ve got Chubs and Tango (and probably all of us to some degree), figuring out alternatives when a roadblock pops up. And good lord the humor in it all, I just love it. And the truth as well. Yes it’s a real pisser to gain when I feel I’ve been quite well behaved. It’s just not fair, and I’ve called the waahhmbulance a time or two myself. But giving up entirely just isn’t an option because if I gain weight trying not to, I will certainly turn into moby dick with a true effort at it💪! I do not want to be an old moby dick, that’s for sure,

Oh but btw I do NOT enjoy FDs. I enjoy what they do for me…kind of like my job! But they’re a struggle, even more so now that hubs has made it clear that going out is helping him get through his grief. Someone mentioned miso soup, and I think its magic is in the salty taste that makes you feel fuller, and like you rally ate a meal. Other days I do like Chubs and have a mountain of lettuce. But I think what you all mean by “enjoying” a FD, in the moment (I think we all enjoy the morning after), is that you expect to be a bit hungry then. Sometimes I feel even hungrier on nFDs and it drives me crazy to feel that way after I should feel full and not thinking about food. I’ve written before about the “tipping” point, where appetite takes over from hunger. I.e., once you’re full, if you keep eating, your body starts craving the bad stuff because it’s no longer hungry but you have forced it to think about food. You know, you no longer want any more beef stew but you could swallow an entire cake. Very tricky, that one. Still working on it in my frankensteinian lab 👹

Karen, I don’t see how anyone masters English as a nonnative speaker, but you have certainly done it. My German and French are quite rusty because I never use them. Bought some books in those languages but have found with a job that requires so much reading, I don’t even keep up with the stacks of books hubs has given me. Super impressed that you chose the very light options at your meal out. I believe you mentioned the LCHF and it’s something I try to do more and more. My bod does love its carbs, but I do try to limit them until later in the day. The whole Godzilla thing, you know.
All right good grief this is an effing novel, sorry to be so long winded but wanted to catch up. This week was better than last (not saying much): 2 “call it good” FDs, one FUFD, a very unrestrained Weds thanks to fried chicken, and one walk. Not exactly an A student but again, it’s something! Hugs to all, never give up! 🌴😍🌴💪jade xx

Karen, Sie machen mich erröten! I have no particular expertise, just the same desire we all have to find the right path. Curiosity may not be good for cats, but learning fuels my progress! If my experience helps anyone, I am very happy. I have certainly drawn great inspiration from others here, and I expect to do so for a long time.

FastCanadian, welcome! We share a number of issues and I look forward to hearing of your success with 5:2. It truly does work.

Jade, I love your spirit! As frustrating as that struggle is, I’m glad to see it — because this is what leads to a breakthrough. Get irritated enough, and you are forced to find a solution! Something tells me you are very close now. 🙂

Hi Annette
Don’t be discouraged, your weight will fluctuate throughout the week, mine does. Sometimes I feel Iv’e had a great week but the scales say otherwise. Its awful but I watched a program about weight control and the advice was you can weigh yourself everyday if you want as it helps you to be concious of your eating but at the end of your week take the average figure of all your weigh-ins and that is the true figure. So when you say the scales say one thing but your clothes tell you another, that’s probably why. Sounds like doing ok regardless.

Surely you’re aware, annette, that muscle weighs more than fat and you have most certainly converted some fat to muscle in your training and your 10K. Another reason why focusing on short term weight could be problematical. The way your skirts fit seem to fit into this view of what’s happening.

As for bras, YAY for you! And you may or may not be aware of the advice to always buy bras based on wearing them at the least snug adjustment. That way they’ll stay with you as you tighten up the rib area and also as the elastic begins to relax over the course of washings.

Take good care of your body while you push it. Is there any info on the fitness threads about how to appropriately adjust IF eating in preparation for and after events like your 10K? I wonder if there’s a way to address a question to Dr. Mosley???? Such taxing physical load surely needs to be properly supported, but how….. DEFINITELY out of my experience but protein must be important. And don’t athletes carbo-load before events? Problematical for those of us with the weight issues athletes typically DON’T have but what is the *constructive* contribution of simple carbs to high demands on muscles? Is there some sports medicine forum that might address such questions?

Oh god, I’m wordy this morning!

I did pretty well on my 3rd FD yesterday. I think I’ll try it again next week.

I was very cool with it all day but before bed I was *really* hungry and I thought it would prevent me from being able to relax enough to sleep because it kept intruding into my reading. I got some veggies from the fridge — pureéd root veggies that had roasted with some pork belly. Yummy but not especially naughty so that was good and I was glad they were left over. But no sooner had I enjoyed them than I was back in the fridge. Also finished a generous hunk of goat cheese.

Happily, that did it and it was probably within 500 calories so no big damage done.

I’ve been relaxing a decent amount on food days and including more food than I usually plan. I like that this 3rd FD could compensate for that and allow some relaxation and more flexibility. I’ll see how this goes.

I would like to learn more about how a healthy normal body and metabolism signal a legitimate need for food and types of food. Hope that can happen over time.

Welcome FastCanadian- Victoria is beautiful! It is actually the only place in Canada I have ever been to and I feel so lucky to have experienced it. My son is extremely interested in the University of Victoria. That would be a great place to spend 4 years for him.

Wishing you all the success in your fasting and weight loss journey- this is a great site for support and ideas and lots of laughs!!

Yes, FastCandian- I’m in Califirnia– Santa Cruz is where I live. It is about 1 1/2 hr south of SF on the coast. Beautiful spot to live in- I am very grateful since I spent a lot of my growing up years in Chicago! Hard for my son to find somewhere to go after growing up here!! He is thinking San Diego or Victoria.

I am really hoping one day to go out to our beaches in bathing suit again- I really hate wearing them now!! I am fantasizing about clothes shopping once this weight is gone. I have lost 8 lbs so far and my goal is 14 more. I am anticipating that the closer I get to my goal weight the harder the fat will be to lose. At least that’s how it’s been for me every other time I’ve tried to lose this weight.

Best of luck to you!!

Hi all

Hi Fast-canadian welcome! Victorian sounds awesome! and CaliB, I can only dream of beaches like Santa Cruz..sounds like things are going well for you both, this is such a nice thread.
Chubster, thanks for knee guru 😉 you’re a star, and also your other tips, will get back on the salads now its warmer.

I’m also sure there are classes which are sensitive to joint issues, especially yoga, they do have more remedial/restorative classes, if you look around, mine is like that, and I’m so happy when she says, ‘ok, let’s start by lying down’ result!, last night I’m sure there was a moment when we were all asleep. Her theory is that we spend most of our lives rushing from pillar to post, and it’s good to slow down, and focus on small movements a couple of times a week, she also does about 30 mins of meditation, which I try to do at home, she does it in a very accessible way, not remotely spiritual (nothing wrong with that) but is suits me.
Annette, from what I know muscles tend to hold on to water after exercise, to keep the body hydrated, so don’t worry, you’re doing a fab job!. I’ve been known to put on 8 Ibs! (you heard right) after a Latin class :-0 not great fun, but it’s the clothes that are the real teller, and caspersmum points out about getting the average weight over the week. Peaks and troughs 😉

Exercise and FD’s does cause some conflicts, I don’t think it matters exercising on FD’s, as long as not weights, but I have a feeling the problem with me is ‘over-compensation’ when I used to run (before knee gate) I often thought ‘yo, I’ve just ran whatever mileage, why don’t I have a croissant etc’ as we know this all adds up, and it really is 70% food and 30% exercise, so a bit disappointing really, but I’m still trying to work it out, basically you’d need to be doing 2-3 hrs exercise a day Madonna-style, to justify more calories. I think for me exercise is for the Endorphin rush, and staying fit (emotionally as well) inside, plus I love dance, walking and hoola hooping, wish I could roller skate!..

Didn’t have a good week (stress at work) so starting fresh on Tues, and will do a ‘double day’ Tues/Wed, find this good, as by the time the 2nd day has kicked in, not so hungry, the best part is breakfast on the 3rd day. I’ve made a list with CAN, CAN….instead of all my Can’t talk last week. So it’s The Can Can way of life
‘Blueberries, sure! “Greek yoghurt’ of course, “omelette, fine!…saving a huge and collosal glass of wine for Sats (which we know could also mean Fri)

Hi to Karen, Jade-have you finished the marking? Spring, and everyone else.

Tango

Hi Jade- Georgia sounds amazing to me!! Before living in Chi town I lived in Memphis but I’ve always wanted to go to GA–I love the south and miss it!! Southerners are the best!! You all get misrepresented in the media but I know the true Southerners and I think you guys are awesome!

I have noticed the after workout weight gain too/ as much as 7 lbs for me but I never understood it- thx for the info!!

Chubs– I am now dreaming of roasted veggies and beans!! Yum!!

Annette- I am losing weight but my clothes are not looser yet!
Hmmm… You are the opposite- too bad we can’t merge together and have a little of both!

FastC– I sometimes forget about the fact that I also started this for good health — I get lost in the weight loss piece. Great to put my mind back to the big picture!

Tango- love the idea about slowing down and incorporating some meditation/quiet time in the day– that’s where real body/mind/spirit reguvenation happens!! Lying down in yoga is my favorite part of the class!!

Darn it I lost a whole post 😡 I had not quite finished it (so didn’t do the careful “copy before submit”) when I was overcome by the urge to go online shoe shopping🤑! Chubs, I blame that all on you 😂 but I was not buying those Nikes, just doing some Sperry “thrift store” browsing on eBay. I’ve put in a bid, at the cost of my brilliant musings here. Ah well.
In summary, I had thanked CaliB for liking southerners despite our quite-well-earned bad rep. Also I had quite a rant about the value of sharing my weight control ideas with the masses, much along the lines of casting pearls before swine. Suffice to say it’s obvious to anyone around me that I stopped eating 3 squares/day long ago and, as a result, stopped ballooning in size. Lather, rinse, repeat…or be fat. Easy choice, not so easy to carry out but them is the breaks esp at post-menopausal age. There, a mini rant just for you all! No charge!
I must get my head out of my wine coma and go garden now because another party is in the offing tonight. Must shoo those cobwebs away in order to start building new ones 👍 Good grief these weekends are not for the faint of heart! But all for a good cause and good friends, so I’m there. ♥️ Cheers and good luck in the continued battles, islanders! 🌴🌴🌴xxx

Yes, Chubs I have heard about muscle weighing more but I am just not sure what to believe and I have no doubt that there is lots we have yet to learn. The information from the running magazines is about not over doing the carb loading or the energy drinks and to make sure that you consume protein. My son and I always drink a pint of milk after a race, which helps us feel so much better and helps with muscle recovery too. We have a meal of pasta the night before a race, always the same dish and usual portion as well.

I have thought for quite sometime that exercise had very little impact on weight loss.The calories burned in the 10K were only 728 based on my height and weight from the watch I wear when I run.I actually consumed more than double that after the run!

So the plan is to do x2 FD(just have lunch at mid day) and to keep a careful eye on what I consume on the other days. I am currently waging a battle on biscuits(the biscuits are winning) at work, so aim for 5 days biscuit free this week.

Good Luck everyone with the coming week.

Hear hear, Chubs! I just took my cobwebs out for a walk with the pups. Only racked up 4000 steps but it’s better than zero steps 👍 and all because of our little challenge, because trust me I feel like taking my feet and bashing myself in the head with them. Red wine OY VEY….but don’t anyone get the idea that I think wine is bad because I am simply a cheap date on that score and intend to keep partying until my last breath. Baby steps everyone – they will get us there! 🐢 Wherever there is, it’s better than Fat City (unless you mean Metairie La!) ⚜🌴xx ps perfect grammar Chubs 💯😍