reversing type 2 diabetes & the fastday lifestyle

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Speedy

3:09 am
21 Sep 13
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USA, it’s very interesting what you are doing.
I was wondering, are you planning to take a multi vit and minerals?
Just personally, I’d always include an apple! The old saying about ‘an apple a day keeps the doctor away’ I think has some good basis. I read recently they contain something that protects your heart and help with sugar regulation. http://www.webmd.com/heart/news/20110412/apple-good-for-your-heart

I’m just into the night after my third FAST day (I have just water and tea) so will have breakfast at noon tomorrow. Really, hunger is not a problem at all; just habit of eating at certain times and triggers (tv programmes lol!) and the fun and interest that eating brings to my day.

wiltldnrUSA

1:51 pm
21 Sep 13
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Speedy

funny u talked about apples

i eat half on fastday & up2 2 on nonfastdays

i never core them i eat everything except the stem

lately i have been putting apples in a chopper w/ egg and oatmeal & nuts & ricotta sour cream and the seasoning

making what i call apple pie pancakes (still experimenting also with grinding air popcorn) 😀

u might like that mayb u’ll come up w/ something better

definitely vitamin & minerals

couscous has a great point w/ low gi/gl 2

the habit part is so true w/tv 🙂

thanks 4 the link will look @ it

wiltldnrUSA

1:58 pm
21 Sep 13
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Couscous

lol

did research the 70% i was probably tired

but thanks again 4 thinking about low gi/gl

i have chart of low glicymic index foods

that will help in these 11days 😀

Ruthi

10:36 pm
21 Sep 13
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USA I think you are over-analysing. Lots of people go 11 days not eating at all when ill with no noticeable ill-effects.

If I were you I’d eat good quality meat and fish, a handful of nuts/seeds (for essential oils) and a handful of berries and MOUNTAINS of leafy veg. You might find it easier, rather than trying to divi it up into tiny meals to just eat once a day. That way you wouldn’t need to bother with 500cal days, you’d be doing a mini fast every day – rather like Ramadan.

30 years ago, I got to know the UK’s first allergist – a clever and kind man. He, and his whole family only ate once a day. They were all very fit and healthy. I’m not sure its how cave man would have eaten, though. Hunter-gatherers would presumably have nibbled on the leaves and berries as they went along to save carrying too much.

wiltldnrUSA

11:52 pm
21 Sep 13
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Ruthi

actually no

i’m looking @ this as

nonfastdays 2 meals a day

fastday 1 meal a day

just researching the most healthiest & downloading free cooking ebooks from my public library i can loan them 4
21 days

this is a normal procedure since doing fastdays

i’m aware of the religious 40 day fastdays

in fact i don’t know where i read it
but they r not all thin

in fact dr mosley has a very old poem of a faster in 1207.

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/fasting-a-poem-by-jelaluddin-rumi/

ur menu is what i have been doing
however,
it’s always nice 2 come out w/ cool flavors thus research 😀

thanks

wiltldnrUSA

8:27 pm
23 Sep 13
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started 😀

schedule 4
11 days

800 *11 days = 8800 cals
8800-950-800-500-900-800-900-800-900-800-950-500 = 0cals

DAY 1 (allowed 950 cals 10 more days 2 go 🙂 )

still not hungry even though it is a reversaltype2 nonfastday

decided 2 have all @ 6pm 1 1/2 more hours 2 go 🙂

Eggs, fried, no fat added 3 small egg(s) 160
bacon uncured thin 4 thin slice 108
Collards, fresh, cooked (no salt or fat added) 2 cup 67

2 make a tomato soup

flaxmilk unsweetenned ½ cup 12
Tomato sauce no salt 2 cup 140

snack after
Hummus ½ cup 218
Cabbage, green, raw 1 cup, chopped 22
Almonds, unroasted 8 almond 55
apple freezedried fugi 1 bag kirkland ¾ cup, sliced 35
Fruit juice bar, frozen, stevia 2 bar (1.75 fl oz) 48
jello pudding sugar free 1 cup 60

Your Menu Total 925 cals (lower yay)

NUTRITION

this covers all except

+α-Linolenic Acid (g)***1.1 g 0.6 g Under
+ Potassium 4700 mg 3296 mg Under
+ Magnesium 320 mg 311 mg Under
+ Zinc 8 mg 7 mg Under
+ Vitamin D 15 µg 10 µg Under
+ Thiamin1.1 mg 0.7 mg Under

i think my supplements will cover the deficiency
some i don’t know what they do
back 2 researching

happy fastdays & nonfastdays 2 all

any type2’ers that would like 2 do this 2?

wiltldnrUSA

10:53 pm
23 Sep 13
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oops forgot carbs & dietary fiber

+ Carbohydrate (g)***
130 g
141 g
OK

+ Dietary Fiber
21 g
30 g
OK

wiltldnrUSA

11:46 pm
24 Sep 13
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DAY 2
9 more days 2 go 🙂 )

well i have leftover cals from yesterday because i was not hungry

still made sure it was nutritious

LUNCH

Kale, fresh, cooked (no salt or fat added) 1¼ cup 46
Olive oil 2 teaspoon 80
meatless Morningstar Farms® Meal Starters Grillers® Recipe Crumbles™ 1 cup 160
Garlic, raw ½ clove 2

DINNER
Lentil soup madras 2 cups 300

SNACKS
Almonds, unroasted 8 almond 55
apple freezedried fugi 1 bag kirkland ¾ cup, sliced 35
Cheese, cottage, fat free, dry curd 1 cup, dry type 104
jello pudding sugar free 1 cup 60

Your Menu Total 842

( been searching 4 a complete meal w/ all the nutrition but low cal seems 2 b impossible so must make up in supplements)

NUTRITION
this covers all except

Carbohydrate (g)***130 g 111 g Under
Dietary Fiber 21 g 42 g OK
Calcium 1200 mg 827 mg Under
Potassium 4700 mg 2376 mg Under
Magnesium 320 mg 245 mg Under
Selenium 55 µg 34 µg Under
Vitamin B6 1.5 mg 1.0 mg Under
Vitamin D 15 µg 3 µg Under
Vitamin E 15 mg AT 9 mg AT Under
Folate 400 µg DFE 337 µg DFE Under
Niacin 14 mg 7 mg Under
Choline 425 mg 298 mg Under

otherwise no bad feelings not hungry

i think it’s easier 4 us fasters 2 do this regimen
our bodies & minds r used 2 this lifestyle

have not weighed myself only after the 11 days will 😀

still no type2’ers?

happy fastdays & nonfastdays 2 all♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪

Ruthi

6:42 am
25 Sep 13
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Jello? Every day? Presumably with sweeteners in it?

wiltldnrUSA

6:58 am
25 Sep 13
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hi ruthi

up way late can’t sleep

yep it has xylitol a natural sweetner my dr said that
all the other artificial sweeteners can’t have except stevia & the above

it’s gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

Ruthi

7:39 am
25 Sep 13
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Yuk!

There’s natural and there’s natural. It may have been made from nI can’t find the reference now, but ALL sweet things, ‘natural’ or otherwise provoke an insulin response. The result in the longer term is/can be insulin resistance and then T2D.

Xylitol is about as natural as cocaine. here’s what I found about how it is manufactured “Xylitol is a molecular cousin to sugar and is derived from the crushed fibers of sugar cane […birch wood or corn…] using a multi-step chemical reaction that involves the use of sulfuric acid, calcium oxide, phosphoric acid and active charcoal. The end product is a a bleached, powdery blend of sugar alcohols that taste sweet on the tongue but are not absorbed by the body.”

wiltldnrUSA

7:56 am
25 Sep 13
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah 🙁

i get my Xylitol from the amish here in pa usa
no grocery store

they do not use

chemicals or even machinery everything is organic
it is what they have always use instead of sugar

??????????????

& stevia is a plant

Ruthi

4:05 pm
25 Sep 13
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So how do they get the Xylitol out of the source material? Do they have some secret process? Because there ain’t no organic Xylitol on the market anywhere else that I can find. I assume that if you are buying it direct from the Amish they are principled enough not to be kidding you with sleight of hand descriptions,

As for Stevia, have you tried it? Its revolting! Even the Stevia extract (Truvia in the UK) has a really off aftertaste.

And they are still sweeteners, they still mess with your brain, and your pancreas, even if they don’t give you cancer (but apparently they might in large doses).

Don’t get me wrong, I have been known to eat junk food (although not on a daily basis any more). I just don’t kid myself its nutritious.

wiltldnrUSA

4:19 pm
25 Sep 13
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ruthi

u got me thinking very hard

“And they are still sweeteners, they still mess with your brain, and your pancreas”

i will not use any sweeteners on these 11 days

by the way there isn’t any aftertaste 4 stevia 4 me

but saccharin % NutraSweet ugh ugh yuk

hope that did not sabotage my goal 🙁

i really appreciate u as a sounding board 🙂

keep being one

2day is the fastday i have not gotten near my scale dying 2
but will stick 2 after the 11 days

happy nonfastdays & fastdays ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪

wiltldnrUSA

6:42 pm
25 Sep 13
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ruthi & all 🙂

still have not eaten probably @ 7pm
will post late tonight

ruthi found a good replacement

for a sweetner healthy 2 😀

going 2 try this mixture on my revnonfastday

coconut fresh figs cocoa powder flax milk

Glycemic Load of Dried Figs 11

Getting enough calcium
eat more broccoli♥, bok choy♥, collard greens♥,
kale♥, mustard greens, turnip greens, and okra.
Dried figs♥, dried beans♥, almonds♥, and fish
with edible bones♥ such as sardines and
canned salmon♥ are also sources of calcium.

http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/articles/nutrition-and-meal-planning/calories_the_key_to_weight_control/all/

Getting enough iron

should make sure their diet
is rich in low-fat cuts of meat and poultry,
low-sugar fortified cereals, dried beans♥,
dried fruit♥, and green, leafy vegetables♥.
Vegetarians should be aware that the body
will absorb more iron from plant sources of iron if
the iron-containing food is eaten along with a food
that is high in vitamin C. ♥

http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/articles/nutrition-and-meal-planning/calories_the_key_to_weight_control/all/

( i have always been drinking lemon juice
w/ allot of water no sweetener 😉 ruthi

especially after seeing that documentary w/ dr mosley in it
about deficiencies

Diet and Disease FIRST BROADCAST: 11 Sep 2008 BBC Four
The lengths doctors go to to uncover connections between what we eat and what we die from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdZBxRx5xfc

coconut♥

The results suggest the beneficial
effect of inclusion of coconut fiber in the diet
A high intake of dietary fiber, particularly
of the soluble type

http://www.journalofdiabetology.org/Pages/Releases/PDFFiles/TENTHISSUE/Com-6-JOD-12-008.pdf

cocoa powder♥

Polyphenol-Rich Cocoa and Chocolate: Potential Role in the Prevention of Diabetes

http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-61779-803-0_24

happy nonfastdays & fastdays ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪

wiltldnrUSA

9:11 pm
25 Sep 13
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DAY 3
8 more days 2 go 🙂 )

FASTDAY 500 CALS

DINNER (earlier 5:30pm 🙂 hungry!!!!!!!!!!) 😀

Clams Minced 1 cup, drained 88
Garlic, raw 1 clove 4
kelp noodles (choppered 2 rice size) 1 cup 12
Olive oil 1 teaspoon 40
Spinach, fresh, cooked (no salt or fat added) 1 cup 41

AFTER DINNER SNACKS

apple freezedried fugi 1 bag kirkland ¾ cup, sliced 35
Cheese, cottage, fat free, dry curd 1 cup, 104
String cheese, part skim 50 calorie 1 stick 50
pistachio no salt 40 nut 120

Your Menu Total 495

still♪♪♪♪♪♪♪I FEEEEEEEEEEEL♪♪♪♪♪♪♪GOOOOOOOOOD♪♪♪♪♪♪♪nanananananana♪♪♪♪♪♪♪

happy nonfastdays & fastdays ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪

Couscous

12:02 pm
26 Sep 13
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Hi USA, am watching your progress on this.
Good Luck.

wiltldnrUSA

3:15 pm
26 Sep 13
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Couscous

thanks

still feeling good

really want 2 c how much i weigh

but it is about the reversing 😀

how r u doing one ur 6/1?

Couscous

9:01 pm
26 Sep 13
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Hi USA, no I am still 5:2 having fallen off the wagon and got back on again. Have lost between 4-5 lb in last 2 weeks to help get me back on track. Re the chocolate issue. I looked up some research following your comments. Lots out there but it seems that 70% may be the magic no re health benefits. Problem I have with the possible benefits are that with all the other research to impact in a positive way on internal health does chocolate become part of or instead of other dietary regimes. As you have said and many know some foods interact in different ways when combined. I still follow K.I.S.S. only because I am fairly lucky with my health.
Good luck with your prog.

wiltldnrUSA

11:51 pm
26 Sep 13
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DAY 4
7 more days 2 go 🙂 )

second vegetarian day

i’m becoming a flexitarian 😀

i’m really really surprised i’m not hungry
i wonder why?
i keep accumulating calories
could have had over 1000 cals 2day

but NOT

i forgot 2 say all during this i drink lemon juice water

no sweetener
just feel it will protect me better than tea or coffee

luckily i had soup leftover did not feel like cooking

DINNER

Lentil soup 2 cups 300

SNACKS

apple freezedried fugi 1 bag kirkland ¾ cup, sliced 35
Cracker, black rice 10 cracker 115
String cheese, part skim 50 calorie 3 stick 150

Your Menu Total 600

i might add later on with snacks por a teaspoon of olive oil
2
kick in the mediterranean part

certainly have room 4 more but my body is not hungry 😀

if any one wants the list

nutrition wise i will b happy 2 copy paste it

or @ the end of it all whatever kind of report

still♪♪♪♪♪♪♪
I FEEEEEEEEEEEL♪♪♪♪♪♪♪GOOOOOOOOOD♪♪♪♪♪♪♪nanananananana♪♪♪♪♪♪♪

happy nonfastdays & fastdays ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪ & now the 4/2/1’s 😉

wiltldnrUSA

12:05 am
27 Sep 13
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Couscous,

i can tell ur a 6/1ner

u lost 4-5 lbs just like that

that is fantastic

it’s like u r the maestro &
ur body the orchestra

u tell it what to do & it listens

so so cool

again u will achieve that 6/1 elite status soon 😉

concerning the chocolate i’m just going 2 use cocoa powder unsweetenned
4 now after the reversal & do more research

thanks 4 being my cheering sounding-board & again will never

mind the constructive criticism

did u c the dr’s new bbc video not horizon?
where he is in a corset
he is super thin again a 6/1er

goodnight enjoy ur chocolate button right 😉

Ruthi

8:10 am
27 Sep 13
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USA on a slightly different tack, are you on any other medication? Other than metformin, I mean.

wiltldnrUSA

5:14 pm
27 Sep 13
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Ruthi

how r u? 🙂

how r u doing in this FDL (fastdaylifestyle)?

tell me
the where what & how & feel?

yes, i take high blood pressure meds & for cholesterol niacin since i won’t take statins (made my liver look like an alcoholic’s & i don’t drink ugh meds ugh)

my dad who was a super healthy skinny person who had very high blood pressure silent heart attacks & unusually high cholesterol
congestive heart etc……

looked @ me & said i’m sorry that i gave u

some of my rotten genes 2 u 🙁

i miss him & my mom who was super healthy slim 2
he was always in2 bicycling vegetarian in great shape
both never drank never smoked
a very painful leukemia got her ugh 🙁

just goes 2 show when u die u die

still, got 2 keep healthy

can’t have those fatalistic give up thoughts

have u seen dr michael’s video on (i’m going 2 watch it tonight)

The Truth About Vitamins

Vitamins without doubt are vital to our health.
And it remains possible that high dose vitamin
supplements will one day be proven to protect
against illnesses like heart disease and cancer.
But so far, definitive evidence for these claims
remains largely elusive. And as we discover more
about some vitamins, it is increasingly clear that
in large doses they can have unexpected,
and sometimes dangerous consequences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i7gPyDZZv4

wish u w/ all of my heart ♥ that u r fine & happy!

Ruthi

8:15 pm
27 Sep 13
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Well, this week I haven’t fasted. I’m staying with my daughter in the south of France because she just had a baby. She lost a lot of blood and is very anaemic, so I am busily encouraging her to eat well, and watching me fast would worry her.

I’ll watch the vitamin programme – it doesn’t seem to be barred here, although lots of UK programmes are. My french isn’t good enough for stand-up comedy!

I read somewhere that beta-blockers increase the risk of type 2 diabetes. Not ideal given your family history!

wiltldnrUSA

8:44 pm
27 Sep 13
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ruthi,

congrats!!!!!!!!! on the grandchild
boy or girl?

good health 2 ur daughter

▄† NOW WHAT! MORE CURVE BALLS! ▄† UGH ≠≠≠≠≠UGH≠≠≠≠≠ UGH≠≠≠≠≠

▄† beta blockers & type2! ▄† (the symbol of my tomb 🙁 )

oh well i’ll just keep on trucking & enjoy life 😀

no matter how many ▲▲▲▲▲▲ 2 climb 😀

here is a link 2 full length movies for free romantic/ holiday etc….

hope it works (i know in the us i can’t watch ur uk programs
but utube 2 the rescue yay 🙂 ) it must be political or greed

u both enjoy

https://www.google.com/search?q=full+hallmark+movies+to+watch+on+youtube+for+free&num=100&lr=lang_en&newwindow=1&hl=en&gl=us&qscrl=1&tbs=lr:lang_1en,dur:l&tbm=vid&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=SulFUsL6AYGN2gXY54CQDA&ved=0CB8QpwUoAw&biw=1241&bih=590&dpr=1

à tout à l’heure (see you later) where near in the south of france in nice or marseilles?

Ruthi

10:25 pm
27 Sep 13
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Boy, Hugo. He’s not my first grandchild, but her first and its all a bit of a shock. I am honoured to be allowed to help! Hugo is absolutely fine, and she will be in time.

We are in Pau, in the foothills of the Pyrenees. A lovely town, and really nice friendly people – so different to the Parisians.

wiltldnrUSA

10:47 pm
27 Sep 13
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ruthi,

u must be so proud of ur daughter & hugo

the pyrenees that’s basque they speak isn’t it?

never been there
heard they r nice & their food is delicious

i speak french fluently
lived in paris

understand ur feelings

i was translating 4 someone on why the attitude???????????

& this french parisian said “that by the time we might be friendly or nice there already gone” w/ a big smile on his face
what a ◎ ugh

so is hugo going 2 be bilingual is ur daughter 2 🙂

have a restful time w/ ur family

& wish ur daughter allot of peaceful healing surrounded by her loving family

bon appetit it’s time 2 eat 🙂 ♨

will post after dinner♨

wiltldnrUSA

2:45 am
28 Sep 13
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DAY 5
6 more days 2 go 🙂 )

i can’t believe i’m becoming a vegetarian
this is the 3rd veggieday 😀

being this low in calories maybe ur tummy craves vegetables not meat. weird weird weird

it’s getting way 2 easy not 2 eat carrying over allot of cals

force myself 2 eat this dinner still have not eaten snacks

again drink unsweetened lemon juice water all day

this was the best soup i have ever made
never thought of adding lentils 2 a vegetable soup
it ads more proteins 2 but taste is better

that us gov site i use ★(it’s on my profile click name)★ when u click ur nutrition of the day
& c something missing u really start changing ur recipes ★(it let’s u build recipes)★ so that u add more nutritional ingredients 2 compensate cooooooooooool 😀

i wander what other beans out there r higher nutritionally

DINNER♨

Vegetable soup, home recipe w/lentils 4 cup 640

Almonds, unroasted 8 almond 55
apple freezedried fugi 1 bag kirkland ¾ cup, sliced 35
Fig, dried, uncooked unsweetenned 1 fig 21
String cheese, part skim 50 calorie 3 stick 150

Your Menu Total 901 cals

Carbohydrate (g)115 g
Dietary Fiber 35 g

again so curious 2 ∞ (infinity symbol)
have not weighed myself still ugh ∞
the mantra in my head only after the 11 days will 😀

▶☞☞ r there really no type2diab′ers out there? ☜☜◀

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happy nonfastdays & fastdays♬♫♬♫♥♬♥♫♬♥♫♬♥♫♬♬♫♬♫♥♬♥♫♬♥♫♬♥♫♬

& now the 4/2/1′s &♬♫♬♫♬♬♫♬♫♥♬♥♫♬♥♫♬♥♫♬ &
ønonfastdays/5feastdays/2fastdays-200cals♬♫♬♫♬ 0/5/2-200’ers

ChrissieinBrittany

6:40 am
28 Sep 13
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Hi usa!

I’ve been a veggie for about two years now (I don’t eat fish either – fish is dead animal too dammit! Never have understood veggies who eat fish). Loads of receipes on ‘Marmiton’ like this one…. http://www.marmiton.org/recettes/recette_soupe-potiron-coco-gingembre_38780.aspx
Enjoy and great respect to you for taking the veggie route.

rockyromero

7:49 am
28 Sep 13
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@chrissieinbrittany
“I don’t eat fish either – fish is dead animal too dammit! Never have understood veggies who eat fish). ”

I don’t eat animals that have parents, either.

Fish, mostly salmon and tuna, I will eat. They have bad parents and are more socially acceptable, with lots of protein.

Enjoy.

➰

ChrissieinBrittany

7:55 am
28 Sep 13
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If you say so dear! Have a nice day!!!

wiltldnrUSA

2:38 pm
28 Sep 13
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ruthi,

concerning 10 yr follow up
changed it 2 this topic

how r u all doing?

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

i must have been tired or was researching/reading 2 much it was i thought it was the other way around oops (must have copy pasted wrong link)
went back & found the abstract

i like it better not as much gobbledygook ;D

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa0806470#t=abstract

i’m 2 tired 2 try to find the study where it is the diet ugh

i didn’t watch the video yet on vitamins
by dr mosley (always re-post 4 newbies have 2 get in2 that habit 😀 )

The Truth About Vitamins
Vitamins without doubt are vital to our health.
And it remains possible that high dose vitamin
supplements will one day be proven to protect
against illnesses like heart disease and cancer.
But so far, definitive evidence for these claims
remains largely elusive. And as we discover more
about some vitamins, it is increasingly clear that
in large doses they can have unexpected,
and sometimes dangerous consequences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i7gPyDZZv4

hugs2u

wiltldnrUSA

4:10 pm
28 Sep 13
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ChrissieinBrittany,

bretonnaise right? from the best food in france

alsacien/ne r u a chef?

merci merci merci 4

http://www.marmiton.org/

don’t have pumkin but butternut squash

http://www.marmiton.org/recettes/recette_soupe-potiron-coco-gingembre_38780.aspx

i like allot of garlic & spices

don’t use allot of salt starting 2 csalt due 2 dr

went 2 ur profile / no profile 🙁

please keep giving me ideas very appreciated

i have tried tried tried 2 go veg

somehow that is all my body wants vegetables

supeeeere etrange weird

who knows i might go carnivorous months from now

the respect is 4 u & only u it is a very courageux/se stance
i know it is a very respectful deep personal belief

what happened 2 yrs ago 4 u 2 change 2 a veggieater

when where what how why etc… ? 🙂

also the same questions 4 the fastday lifestyle

what r the french colloquially calling it this way of living?

concerning fish: my 2 religious vegetarian friend

said “if jesus/god supplied them, then, i will eat them”

he doesn’t eat any other animal that has been supplied in the bible 😀

so qui sui’ge?

veg/carn/flex?

a tout alors & merci encore une autre fois

vive la vie!!!!

ChrissieinBrittany

4:38 pm
28 Sep 13
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I’m sure that butternut squash will do perfectly! I’ve just picked a huge one in the veggie patch for roasting tomorrow.

I don’t know how to do all the gubbins on the site so I haven’t done a profile but I’m 45, mum of three teenagers living in central Brittany, France since 1999. Before that I lived in the UK for five years where my French husband learned to speak English. Before that I had another life as a croupier in the south of France.
Always had to watch my weight – not fair; skinny brother, tall, willowy mother.
I’ve done ww on and off for years and finally lost the weight on my own (with my wii for company). It’s been creeping back on though and, like a lot of us here, I saw the documentary on 5:2 and have been 5:2ing since July. Have some great days and some horrendous ones. Haven’t weighed in because I don’t want to be disappointed. Sometimes clothes feel looser and sometimes not. It may be working. I’ll have to set a date to get on those scales!
Nothing particular happened to make me go veggie . I just realised I didn’t like the idea of killing animals for food when we can get all we need from other sources.I don’t see a burger or a chicken wing anymore, I just see a dead animal. It’s only my very humble, personal opinion and I don’t push it on anyone (and I’m not asking for anyone’s opinion). Certainly not here in France! It’s a very ‘meaty’ country and a lot of people think I’m nuts! Imagine if I tell them I fast twice a week too!!!
No I’m not a chef and we call ourselves Les Bretons. I’m an honorary one;)
Bye for now!
Chrissie.

wiltldnrUSA

5:10 pm
28 Sep 13
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Les Bretons. the an honorary one;)

so i guess that means the fdl (fastdaylifestyle) is not going french & their name 4 it is ingonito 😉

wish u success in the fdl♬♬♬♬♬

ChrissieinBrittany

5:22 pm
28 Sep 13
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I can’t see it catching on here but you never know!

wiltldnrUSA

5:26 pm
28 Sep 13
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they r probably dukaneesers 😀

wiltldnrUSA

5:30 pm
28 Sep 13
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found it

Le régime fast de Michael Mosley (6 janvier 2014)

it’s coming soon

http://www.amazon.fr/r%C3%A9gime-fast-Michael-Mosley/dp/2848996625/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1380389260&sr=1-1&keywords=dietetique+mosley

well i’m going 2 go make that butternut

merci encore

wiltldnrUSA

8:56 pm
28 Sep 13
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DAY 6

5 more days 2 go 🙂 )

this is the 4th veggieday 😀

i’m going the vegetarian way still AMAAAZING!

cals carrying over over over

HUNGRIER 2DAY

going 2 eat earlier 2night going 2 bed earlier

did not sleep well last night 🙁

figure i add more wholegrain 2day

LUNCH

butternut squash 1 cup, sliced 125
veg broth nosalt ½ cup 10

DINNER

Lima beans casserole 2 cup 420

SNACKS

cheese Light Garlic & Herb thelaughingcow　4 wedge 140
Crackers, Black Rice Sesame mini round 　　　BAG　 224
Fig, dried, uncooked unsweetenned 　　1 fig 21
apple freezedried fugi 1 bag kirkland ¾ cup, sliced 35

Your Menu Total 975 cals

NUTRITION

Whole Grains
11½ oz.

Protein (% Calories)***
69% Calories

Carbohydrate (g)***
207 g

Dietary Fiber
29 g

still fine not weak yay

hope i 🙁 sleep ｚｚｚｚｚ better 2night 😀

happy nonfastdays & fastdays OR any other combination ;D ♬♪♬♪♬♪♬♪☆♬♪♬♪ goodnight ♬♪♬♪♬♪♬♪sweethearts♬♪♬♪♬♪♬♪♥♥♥♥♥♥

rockyromero

10:03 pm
28 Sep 13
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@chrissieinbrittany
“It’s a very ‘meaty’ country and a lot of people think I’m nuts! Imagine if I tell them I fast twice a week too!!!”

It’s a meaty country here in the USA also.

I suspect that eating behaviors will change due to the success of fasting. Diets and exercise alone have not worked, while a fasting lifestyle, in all the different variations, will succeed.

We see the success here.

Glad that we could connect.

Heureux que nous pourrions connecter.

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Speedy

3:08 pm
29 Sep 13
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I’m following your project with great interest USA! You’re doing great 🙂

What are you planning to do to check what effect this has had on you? Is it a question of comparing your (average?) blood sugar readings with before or is there another way?
Sorry if this is a stupid question!

wiltldnrUSA

4:50 pm
29 Sep 13
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hi,

speedy

it is never stupid, by asking a question, ur intelligent 🙂

since my insurance is out it is @ it’s limit 4 this yr
concerning blood tests

i have 2 figure the cost/ research the least expensive accurate reliable test & then
find out if i reversed it yay

i will post results & what test 2 do (i’m no dr or even have a medical/science brain but have always loved science so i guess i’m a right brain girl loving the left brain sigh 🙂 )

now i know that the men took 11 days & women took 2 months ugh

i figured since my body has been fasting b4 & is used 2 this

i’ll do the 11 days. i hope it works if not i guess i’ll start all over again ugh & do the 2 months ugh ugh ugh 4 women

i mean this is my second try

because the 1st time i had the stomach flue so had 2 stop

this time seems 2 be good however c way b low

maybe adf way more cals during day who knows ?????

did u c their research?

BIG SHOUT OUT OF THANKS THANKS 2 COUCOUS 😀

4 posting the research

i’ll post it again & there’s a video which i could not watch because i’m a yankee 🙂

4 uk posters

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-food-hospital/4od

Reversing Type 2 Diabetes

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm

then lastnight! i woke up in the middle of the night
sweating (no longer have hot flashes) & weak.

went & drank a glass of flaxmilk & pistachios seem 2 help
will count the cals 4 2day

now i don’t know if it was the dried unsalted edamame (green soy beans) i ate 4 a snack earlier no gmo all natural
however, i found out it came from china. lately some of their citizens
do not have a great reputation of being concerned about safety for anyone’s health 🙁

don’t think i will eat that 4 now
shoot they were delish

so i don’t know it could be my body is resisting this experiment

also i have not had any eggs but i think i will get some

& maybe some uncured bacon 4 fat (sorry vegetarians) or NOT more olive oil
avocados who knows???????????

last night through a curve-ball &

scared the living days out of me!

still stil still will continue

any suggestions?

by the way what about u

how r u?

wiltldnrUSA

5:09 pm
29 Sep 13
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speedy

sorry 🙁

forgot u did read the report

Ruthi

5:17 pm
29 Sep 13
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If you want to watch some seriously depressing TV go to Youtube and find ‘The men who made us fat’ and ‘The men who made us thin’. The only thing is they were made before fasting was thought of as mainstream, so we can all hope that beats the statistics on other slimming regimes.

rockyromero

5:23 pm
29 Sep 13
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@ruthi
“If you want to watch some seriously depressing TV ”

No – not this year.

Could you sum it up for us?

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wiltldnrUSA

5:51 pm
29 Sep 13
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ruthi did u c all b low?

don’t know if i want 2 get depressed but it sounds like a good thing 2 view 2 make an informed decision

thought i would post what u were talking about

still have not

seen dr mosley’s

The Truth About Vitamins

Vitamins without doubt are vital to our health.
And it remains possible that high dose vitamin
supplements will one day be proven to protect
against illnesses like heart disease and cancer.
But so far, definitive evidence for these claims
remains largely elusive. And as we discover more
about some vitamins, it is increasingly clear that
in large doses they can have unexpected,
and sometimes dangerous consequences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i7gPyDZZv4

The Men Who Made Us Fat ”Episode 1/3”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6nGlLUBkOQ

The Men Who Made Us Fat ”Episode 2/3”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owekbSp7wU0

The Men Who Made Us Fat ”Episode 3/3”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlQHXkOUjeI

2ND PART

The Men Who Made Us Thin Episode One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-_LoAm_etU

The Men Who Made Us Thin Ep 2 HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltVHDWD5CUM

The Men Who Made Us Thin Episode Three

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERrd8cEtwBk

The Men Who Made Us Thin Episode Four

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1uaHTh7iVs

Speedy

6:21 pm
29 Sep 13
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I think in years to come our current eating habits will be looked at in a similar way to smoking in the 40s and 50s – when they thought it cleared your chest and drs would offer you a smoke!

I saw The Men Who Made Us Fat and things that stuck in my mind were:
– Politicians deciding to believe ‘science’ that said Fat was the baddie not sugar. The reports that found sugar was the real culprit were quietly shelved.
And the chap who pushed Fructose corn syrup rather than real sugar when sugar prices rose and the ‘uncertainty’ about how HFCS is used in our bodies. It’s processed very different than proper sugar in our bodies. Voices that doubted that fat was the baddie – such as Atkins for an example – were poo pooed.

– Supersizing started by a chap after he saw McD’s customers eating every last crumb of their chips and that bigger servings bring more profit than they cost to produce.

– How marketing has really mucked up the whole food market by cleverly misleading so that Low Fat usually equals high sugar!!! And so people who thought they were making healthy choices according to current science, simply were not.

Even now, the old mantras are still so prevalent so if you say you are fasting just for 24 hours people nearly faint with horror! Dieticians still say eat every few hours 🙁 Even though fasting is a very old tradition.
If you read the Diabetes forums you can see how many people are having to research for themselves what they should and should not eat.

I know none of this is new but somehow it helps me to get it all in order in my mind to write it out 🙂

rockyromero

7:21 pm
29 Sep 13
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@speedy
“I think in years to come our current eating habits will be looked at in a similar way to smoking in the 40s and 50s ”

This has already proven to be true.

“I know none of this is new but somehow it helps me to get it all in order in my mind to write it out ”

Some of this is new & thanks for clearing this up more.

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rockyromero

7:50 pm
29 Sep 13
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How about combining:

World’s most dangerous food destinations with great food?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2013/09/28/most-dangerous-food-destinations/2883369/

There’s something to be said about people’s fascination with treating food as a diversion rather than fuel.

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Ruthi

9:02 pm
29 Sep 13
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I watched most of ‘The men who made us….’ a while back, but not recently. But the general gist was that the big companies have more influence on governments than honest doctors and researchers.

Vitamins wasn’t a great surprise, and rather disappointingly only looked at A, C and E. It wasn’t really anything new. Vit C doesn’t prevent colds, but does shorten them, Vit E doesn’t cure heart disease (but no research on prevention), high dose vit A supplements seem to cause osteoporosis and liver disease (but natural Vit A doesn’t.

I read recently that people who take vitamin pills live longer, but without reading the original research I can’t take a view on whether, if you are destined to live longer you are more likely to take vitamins, or they actually make a difference. It annoys the hell out of me that so much research is flawed, or limited in its usefulness because the simple questions haven’t been asked!