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  • Well done, Nina, and yes, the overall monthly downward trend is what we all want, good luck to you. I feel the same about my fast days (although still eat at 7pm because I just NEEEEEED it, lol

    Aud x

    @ nina6 Well done on your weight loss 🙂
    Have just read right through this thread and like Sylvestra have some misgivings.
    We have all probably tried just about every diet going, lost some weight, found things either too restrictive or just plain boring, given up and then regained the weight we had lost plus some!
    I don’t think of 5:2 as a diet but a new way of life. Apart from my husband I didn’t tell anyone I was IF for about 6 months, even though I was socialising with most of our friends and family frequently. Apparently my holiday photos caused people to notice.
    The joy of 5:2 is its flexibility.
    On normal days when I inadvertently missed a meal and became close to 500 cals for the day I changed that to my fast day. I only ever did 5:2 until I plateaued after about five months. I never had any trouble eating my correct TDEE and sometimes more on normal days.
    I only tell you this because I find this way sustainable and feel you are very restrictive and your body will go into ‘starvation mode’.
    There is nothing wrong with having a SMALL chocolate bar occasionally (I have had my share of NY cheesecake over the months :p )it would be unrealistic to think you could avoid it with small children around.
    Don’t think of this as a FAST (speedy) diet think of it as a way of life with fasting involved and happily a weight loss too :).
    Your Mum 😛

    Goodmorning! Well, I must admit first time I read your posts (sylvestra and Lindy) I had mixed feelings (teenager syndrome, have to get over it, I am nearly 40…). Then I stopped to think and yes, you are right. I am overexcited and maybe doing the wrong thing here, or at least the same thing that brought me where I am in the first place. I may be pushing myself a little too much here. So let me describe exactly what I intend to do and I really need your opinion after you read this: I was thinking it would be nice to have some good results in the beginning, and then take it slowly, that’s why I chose to go with 4:3. So I was thinking of doing 3 days of total fast (Monday, Wed and Thurs or maybe Friday) and eat around 1600 cals the rest of the days (that’s about my TDEE) without worrying too much if I go a bit over it (cause what really upsets me is having to count calories, I would really love to eat freely on the remaining 4 days but I DO have the common sense to know that I have to be somewhere around the 1600 (plus minus 150 maybe?) and all those years have taught me how to do that without counting rigidly). So what do you think? Is that still wrong? Cause I see many people do that here but they are not critisized (English is not my first language, i wish I could choose a milder word here). And then, after maybe a month, regroup and go with 5:2 and take it real slow (but by then I wont feel depressed by not having any clothes to wear-I already feel better- and I will have all the patience in the world to wait and do the 5:2 as originally conceived). So please tell me your opinion. And Lindy you do sound like my mum but I love my mum so it’s alright. And now that I said “mum” I remember that she is visiting me 15-24 February and I don’t know what to do (I don’t think she would approve of any of this!). xxx

    Hi @nina6 What you are suggesting sounds ok but remember it is NOT a rigid diet. We all want to lose weight as fast as possible but we have to do it in a healthy way and in a way that fits in with out lifestyle and is sustainable. If you make this too rigid it will not be sustainable.

    As someone else said – this is a marathon, not a sprint. it isn’t a quick fix it’s a complete change to your way of eating.

    Total fasting on 3 days is quite difficult especially to start with and it might be better to do 5:2 until your body is used to fasting then go to 4:3. Also at the beginning it is sometimes easier to have one or two small meals on the fast days, again so you get used to less food. A complete fast is maybe a bit too much the first week.

    Can I also just say that our mothers very often don’t approve of the things we do but at the age of 40, I think you are old enough to decide for yourself. If she really doesn’t approve and if it helps to keep the peace – have three small meals (totalling 500 cals) on the fast days she is with you. It won’t make any difference to your overall loss in the long run.

    xx

    I did it the other way around and used 5:2 to start my journey. Once I stalled and didn’t lose weight for a couple of weeks then I went up to 4:3 but only for one week as my clothes were so much looser that although it seemed no weight had disappeared, inches had. This is as motivating as losing weight!
    I guessed your age – and your youthful enthusiasm is wonderful – and yes as Sylvestra says you are old enough to make your own decisions. Everyone does this fasting business in their own way, what suits one may not suit another, and it has to fit YOUR life for it to work for you.
    If she doesn’t approve what will she do?
    Need your mother know you are fasting? I still only tell my mother what I want her to know – she is 89 and a worrier so we protect her from lots of things by keeping her ignorant 😛
    Have a fast day on the day before she arrives, then one day during her stay skip breakfast and have 2 small meals with her – just tell her because she has been with you, you have eaten far more than usual and are not terribly hungry today. Then distract her with the children.
    Now you have three Mums watching out for you!

    I (used to) hate when my mother would ask me “so how’s your weight doing?”. Now I’m waiting 4 it! Lol. I’m just glad I’m feeling more energetic and focused. B4 I kind of lost track of keeping myself trim. It had gone way too far. U r supposed to do something when the scale goes up-not just ignore it! Glad I’m being accountable and sticking to my set fast days! Weigh in on tues is coming up-have to do tax prep all weekend so I know ill be keeping busy!
    xxx

    Just popping into to say Nina, and hope things are still going well for you

    Aud x

    Hi Aud! I appreciate the interest! I am ok, went off track for 3-4 days (not much though), I am right back on:) I ll let you know as soon as I find the time to write a proper post! xxx

    Hi Nina, off-track is fine, most folk consider this to be a life thing rather than a fad diet ::shudders::

    Take care whilst Real Life has you by the throat
    Aud x

    Hey all,
    I could do with a diet buddy too, my friend who agreed to join me is not exactly taking it very seriously. I am working so hard at this. My daughter has started too but she only needs to lose one stone compared to my five. Help!

    Hey Aud and girls! Thanks for reminding me I should not be beating myself up for falling off the truck! Well I didn’t actually fall off the truck big time, I just haven’t fasted for a couple of weeks. I weighed myself today and I am 73 kilos (I have lost 2 kilos since I first started). Today I bought a notebook and think that I should write down my progress every day and not leave everything to chance like I did when I first started. I strongly believe that this is a sound approach to weight loss. My parents sre visiting so I am not sure when my first fast day will be. I think it will be either Friday or Tuesday. I’ll let you know. Jojo and anyone who would like to contact me (it’s useful, I have had loads of support and help from Hondakawi with whom I speak through e-mail) my e mail is: antoniatra@gmail.com xxx

    Hi all! Fell off the truck for a little while, not big time-I was very careful just didn’t fast, it’s hard when parents are visiting. I am back on since last Friday. I would feel better if I wrote here again when I have completed at least 2 weeks of IF, so hopefully you’ll hear from me in about a week. How is everyone else doing? Please inspire me! xxx

    Hi Nina. I’m 157 tall, put lots of weight when I moved to uk, have been depressed few to many times, have 2 young children at home so there is few things in common. But I don’t know if is just me or I read wrongly between the lines but my alarm bells are ringing… I also have lost few years of my life due to eating disorders. Anorexia for many years then bulimia when I tried hard to get out of that trap. And it may sounds strange coming out of someone who does ADF (I don’t want to count calories as I know my past and don’t want to be obsessed with food) having to think about diet only one day and switching the thinking next day is the way I protect myself too) so there is my advice. Plan your meals ahead. I cook my “fast food” 🙂 day before when I’m full to make sure is healthy and nutritious, if I’m on the go I’ll make a wrap or salad to go. On my normal day I eat whatever the rest of family is having and whatever I fancy, chocolate too- but I care a lot of what my family eats. IF helped with my depression a lot ( having my youngest one did wonders too as my recent low was over 2 miscarriages) it gives me energy and sense of achievement. But depriving yourself of food makes lots of damage you can’t repair sometimes and gets you VERY LOW indeed. I just hope you are Very excited in the beginnings… like sylvestra said ( hello again ;)) your weight loss will settle down at some point. Even doing ADF I can see it clearly myself. Don’t get discouraged but don’t be silly either. Best of luck I hope you will take it in positive way.

    Lost 20 lbs since I started on new years eve! Just stick with it kids! The weeks are gonna go by anyways-might as well be fasting and maybe get a surprise on the scale! Good luck to all just starting and re-starts!!

    Hi all! As promised, I am back! I am on my third week now (ends on Thursday, tomorrow it’s my second fast for the third week. I have been doing 4:3 for the first two weeks but I said I would take it as it comes, so if I can’t do 4:3 for one week, I do 5:2. I am very happy, barely feel like I am on a diet. I read all the posts in this forum almost every day, and this has been a great help!

    xx

    Have you picked any favorite recipes yet Nina?

    Hi SAMM, what do you mean? On fast days I don’t need any recipes since I do water fast (it’s easier for me). On non fast days, I cook as normally for my family but I usually eat a very small portion of that food accompanied by a lot of green peppers, mushrooms tomatoes and egg whites.

    I foolishly decided to do a free,day yesterday (I wanted to spend one day not thinking of what I eat), turns out I ate too many fries and my stomach was full and hurting until I went to bed, so it has become smaller after 3 weeks on this WOE. Today is a fast day, so is Tuesday and Thursday. I will post my weight here on Friday (end of my fourth week).

    How is everyone else doing? xxx

    Fourth week is over and I am down to 67,7 kilos, that is a total loss of 6 kilos in the past 4 weeks and a total of 7,3 kilos since I first started ( end of January), including my little (15 days!!!) break after the first 10 days. Btw no one has noticed but I do notice! I am very happy with this diet, I don’t feel like I am on a diet at all! Fast days can be hard when you are home all day, but I try not to! xxx

    Glad to hear this Nina6 happy for you.
    I struggled this week becauseof a new schedule. I basically need a better lunch bag to take to work. I was trying for 4:3 , but accomplished 5:2 . I got in 35 minutes of jumprope and 45 minutes of jumping jacks. Looking forward to lifting sunday.
    I feel the same way about 5:2 not feeling like other diets. It has made me concise of how I eat on non fasting days.

    Im finding my happiness week to week isnt on the scale as much as my own approval getting through fast days as planned. Im trying to add fish and red beans to my diet, on fasting days, because they are lacking in my diet when not fasting. I seem to do well when things go as planned. Reading previous posts the chocolate bar got my attention. I used not crave chocolate or sweets, but others keep it stocked in the cubbard. I make up some tiny plastic bags with a dark chocolate and yogurt covered raisen, and a coffee bean covered with dark too. Its not much , but is just enough to pass on desserts. I typically don’t have it on fast days , but If im famished early on a fast day. I’ll start my morning with approx 50-75 calories of chewable vitamins, follow with the chocolates. Cross my fingers hoping it doesnt trigger more appetite. After about 4 months I began to realize that some days are better with a bitter coffee drink. I make my own with a chocolate flavored vitamin drink, add no fat milk and add instant coffee.
    it’s bitter. However on days scheduled for fasting if im hungry very early. I switch to the protein shake instead of food. That way im still getting carbs, fats, proteins in the right measures, and vitamins and minerals. I add ice to it periodically . While that puts off my hunger pangs most of a day. I know from its my experience that I will zero will power. So I go to bed early on 500 calorie shake days.

    Hi SAMM, thank you for your messages and the support! I do the same with 4:3, aim at it and if not convenient I do 5:2. This week (my week starts on Fridays) I haven’t fasted yet, first fast day tomorrow, second on Wednesday so no time for 4:3 (unless I do two consecutive days Wednesday and Thursday, but since I do water fasts I don’t think it’s safe… )However, I am considering doing 20:4 on Thursday or do a 500 cals fast. We will see. For me the hard part is not on fast days but on non fast days since I don’t like recording my calories but I do count them in my mind and that frustrates me and I end up usually with about 100-150 cals above my TDEE. But I am trying to fix this, I love the freedom of making your own adjustments in this diet:) I have also bought the fast exercise book, haven’t opened it yet, I seriously don’t have time to exercise but I definitely need to so I have to do smth about it (opening the book would be a good start:)) xxx

    After adjusting to 4:3 with adequate nutrition fast days. It became easier for me to chose some weekly meals. These meals were always the same in calories so is easier to count in my head. I make a salad that simulates spaghetti or lasagna in flavor without starchy ingredients. More for family cooking duty since I don’t cook for them on fasting days. I can fix them spaghetti and I eat the vegetti. After counting it out many times i just do it without thinking. Another tip is I don’t get calories from my drinks. This made keeping track of my intake to 3 meals instead of 9 or 10 to keep in mind. This led to my habit. I moved fish and beans to fasting days. Leaving only 3 meals a week to count out. I like to eat oatmeal after fasting its very easy to count and can be flavored in sooooooo many ways. Which leaves only 6 meals to freely choose and count. As time marched on I settled on eating at an all i can eat buffet on Sunday’s a my only feast day. It’s about 1400 calories as I start with a plate with a lot of low calorie vegetables, a second of fruits, skip the starches , and eat a small steak and lobster. I do exercise withing two hours doing lifting and jumping rope or jumping jacks. It helps me feel stronger on weeks I lift, or at least use an exercise ball to do core exercise and dance video.
    This leaves five meals to freely choose. I started coming around to the cell phone calorie counting apps just using it on those five meals. This is when those cook book and menu apps help me make good choices.
    I made a decision to always chose fish when eating out. Just a personal decision to simplify eating out choices, and by skipping the breads I usually don’t struggle with my TDEE when out.

    I go through periods when it’s just easier to open a can of mixed vegtables for 150 calories and get the full feeling for a few hours. Or store bought protein shakes these are easy to count in my head. After reading your post nina6 it reminds me how easy it is maintain my obesity, go over TDEE, or sacrifice flavors or adequate nutrition. I’m glad I’m on a forum this year. Best wishes!

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