Day 25 – Japan – WFD (#23 try 2)

@shelliz – You are also in Japan? I’m in Tokyo.
About Microsoft breaking Edge on my computer. The amazing thing about Windows is the wide array of hardware it runs on. Much wider than even all the various distros of Linux combined if you exclude very low end devices. (Some forms of Linux can run even on 80286 processor systems, where modern windows won’t.) Anyway that is also a weakness as it is pretty much impossible for some changes not to break thing on some computers. That is even worse when all the various kinds of software are considered. This computer is probably about 8 years old and it has a very old and limited GPU even thought the CPU is okay. It is probably changes in the graphics systems that caused the problems with Edge, Chrome and Firefox. Edge is just eh most frustrating because Microsoft pretty much forced that over the older Explorer.

The reason I think Linux is a mess is because when someone says Linux you don’t know what they mean. It could be Redhat Linux like you have experience with or Ubuntu, or Debean or OpenSuse or Gentoo or FreeBSD or … you get the idea. Even within there types there are often many releases and these are similar but not really the same. Often programs have to be released in source and recompiled by each person. Not to mention the many strange commands that are required which vary by distro. Finally Linux is highly configurable which can cause the same release to even run very differently. In general given enough resources though, Linux does work well, however it bottoms out quickly if it doesn’t have enough memory or disk space.

The Mac OS is currently a variant of FreeBSD but one has to put in some effort to actually get to a shell. The biggest problem I have with Mac OS is that it hides information. On the surface it makes it appear simpler. However sometimes it makes things harder and and twice I’ve lost disk drives without warning on Macs or good backups. I’ve lost many disk drives on other operating systems but have always been about to recover data or backup in time because warning weren’t suppressed. Apple is more about making money than supporting long term use. Also Apple hardware is way overpriced for the actual quality. The computers look nice on the outside but the internal hardware isn’t worth the price in many cases and sometimes actually subpar. You can easily get the same circuit quality with a Windows computer, but you will only pay $$ instead of $$$$$ for it.

What a rant and nothing to do with fasting! On the fasting front I ate a huge vegie salad for super last night with very light dressing and a roasted sweet potato on the side. Wondering how that will effect me today. It was probably 500 calories total but a lot of food and I was very full. A low calorie density meal.

2nd post

@ciren2 @debster251 @michelinme @bluesqueak Wow thanks for your kind comments on my English! I think posting here every day would be some good practice for my English as well! Learning from everyone here 🙂

@dykask I’m in Tokyo too! Yay! We seem to be a little bit ahead of everyone else regarding the time zone thing.

I’m wondering how do you reply to someone using the @ mark?
Until now I just copy and paste every single name and handtype the @ mark, works fine but a little bit hard to do on a mobile device.
Any tricks I’m not aware of?

Day 25 UK FD

Yesterday fine, today is full but I think I’m organised. Started with early yoga & meditation, head in a good place. Only desk day til post-holiday & tons to fit in so going to be disciplined.

FD food plan – thinking maybe carrot soup at lunchtime – less than 100 calories a portion and warming/filling. Apple or clementine with a couple of brazil nuts if needed. Vegetable chilli with tofu & peas already defrosted and waiting in fridge.

Wishing you all a good Monday x

Day 25 Pocket List

@chipmunk13
@shelliz
@dykask
@daffodil2010
@fiftyandfabulous
@snowflake56
@michelinme

Day 25 Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 FD

Firmly pressing the Reset button for a Monday FD

Day 25 Pocket List
@chipmunk13
@shelliz
@dykask
@daffodil2010
@fiftyandfabulous
@snowflake56
@michelinme
@debster251
@missybear

Together we are stronger 😊

Day 25 Melb Aust 9:50 p.m. TDEE
Day 24 FD800, Day 23 CD, Day 22 FD800

Frustrated! Hate plateaus. Weekend weigh-in had me 0.1 kg over the previous week, but I usually plateau at around 76 kg. Not much time left to get down to my 75 kg goal for the month. Well, frustration today led to a TDEE day instead of a FD800, so I’ll fast tomorrow, and try to include at least 2-3 more this week. Have to shake this plateau.

Lots happening with everyone – dentists, sciatica, TOM, weight losses and gains, computer glitches, and food advice; all good. Too far behind to comment on it all, but glad to be part of this WOL and forum.

So will start tomorrow’s pocket list early:

Day 26 Pocket List
@betsylee FD800

Day 25 Canton OH FD

@snowflake whats going on with your BP? I hope you fell better soon and hydrate!
@betsylee hang in there. I read somewhere that plateaus are an important part of weight loss ; they give your body a chance to get used to the multiple changes that are taking place on the cellular level. The human body is incredibly complex and always trying to maintain homeostasis, it therefore tries to avoid the huge swings that can occur with weight loss – think electrolyte changes, body fat, water loss etc etc. Plateaus are protective and necessary for your health. It does not mean you are not making progress, you just can’t see it on the scale. I hope that helps 🙂

@daffodil2010 I am sure you will get the permanent job! I look back and marvel at how well everything worked out for you.

Gott get back to the grindstone. Stay strong every one.

Day 25 Pocket List
@chipmunk13
@shelliz
@dykask
@daffodil2010
@michelinme
@debster251
@missybear
@emma-taylor
@basyjames

Day 25 – Manchester, England – NFD

Quick check in to say hi and remind myself to stay on track. I hope everyone is doing ok. We’re nearly at the end of March – I can’t quite believe it! Good luck to all you fasters today. Together, we can achieve anything!

Day 25, London, UK, NFD,

Well @shelliz, I can safely say, your English is sooooooo much better than my Japanese, which isn’t difficult, since I don’t speak ANY Japanese!!!!!

@songbirdme ……………… Maintenance is looking GOOD on you, congratulations, your hard work has paid off with getting the museum open…………. Finally!!!

@debster251, only one thing you can say ………………….. Good Luck!!!! It may seem harsh, but I’m tired of preaching about this WOL and getting the SAME response about starvation or even dying!!!! I’m with you on the sugar wagon, or is that off(?) you see, there was this doughnut……………………. Enough said!!!!

@emma taylor, two lunches??? I’m feeling like I missed a memo!!!!

@snowflake56, look after yourself, practise a bit of pampering and hopefully you’ll recover.

Late & quick check-in from me, I’m back to work tomorrow, so back to fasting, however, the weekend of NFDs hasn’t had the usual effect on the bouncy-bouncy scales!!!!………………… I hope I didn’t jinx that!!!!

Day 25: Gloucestershire, UK: NFD
Another beautiful day. Delivering the mail was hard work, we had a bulk mailing from the Coventry Building Society, and as it’s the only BS in the town, everyone seems to have at least one account with it! Also two lots of leaflets to work in, (just knowing everyone will throw them away) so went over time.
@songbirdme: watched your little film. It’s nice to put a face to the name. You’re looking good on 5:2, may I say?
@snowflake56: Sorry to hear about your low blood pressure causing you to feel faint. Are you drinking enough?
@shelliz: Just write the name with the @ in front and it comes up right. No need to copy and paste one name…..only the pocket list.

Day 25 London UK FD800

Weight stayed stable after yesterday’s NFD – possibly the trick is to stick to the 12 hour window for food, and not eat late at night.

In other news, my hips have finally decided to shed 1/2 inch (1.5 cm). It seems my body is moving selectively through its fat stores rather than shrinking in all directions at once. My waist was the first to go, now stable at 32.5 in (82.5 cm), then my upper thighs, which I don’t measure – but those jeans which were tight at the beginning of the month are now comfortably loose. Maybe now it’s the hip fat’s turn?

@snowflake56 – look after yourself, check with the doctor (maybe the thyroid meds need adjusting?) and definitely don’t fast.

Day26 Wellington, NZ NFD

Yesterday was more of a CD than a FD but no matter, wasn’t too bad.

Anyone not feeling well, best wishes for feeling better.

Hope everyone is tracking well.

Day 26 NFD
Day 25 FD (480cal)
Weekend NFD

Overdue check-in but Monday just escaped me. Very tired today, so will try to have plenty of water and peppermint tea to fend off the hunger that tiredness often brings!

Weekend was lovely, but overdid the food, including sugar and carbs – however I was able to stay pretty sensible alcohol wise, which I’m happy about.

Have been managing the FD’s ok (even when they’re a struggle), now to tackle the NFD’s – might be time to re-read some fast diet books, and get onto some podcasts to reaffirm the benefits (beyond weightloss). Havign said that, I’m feeling very heavy, so need to try and manage the after work feasting.

I’ve moved offices recently, and there’s an informal run club every Thursday lunchtime – up to this point only guys were attending (it’s a construction project, so ladies are unfortunately the minority) but I’ve committed to join! Went along for a bit of an intro run club run yesterday, legs a little sore today, but the group motivation was great! And will be nice to meet a few new people in the office 

Just found an ‘ABC All in the Mind’ with Michael Mosley as the guest, talking “Health in Body and Mind” – very good listen for anyone interested!

@snowflake56 thanks  I got through it…just! I’m hanging in there, just hope the fasting motivation reappears soon…!!!
@russetfox glad the tooth pain has resolved! I hate fillings…!!
@aglowworm what restraint!! I’ve been known to steal many a chip from the husband. I think I need to start channelling your mindfulness need/want mantra – well done! Bummer about the job. Sometimes the knock backs are a blessing. Time to look forward to the next opportunity – the right thing will come along!
@fiftyandfabulous what a great result for March!
@ccco are you able to share the cabbage recipe? My grandma makes the most delicious cabbage (Macedonian/Hungarian style with paprika) though it’s quite oily, should try and modify.
@shelliz amazing progress!! Keep up the good work!!

Still trying to catch up on posts, sorry for not replying to everyone!

Day 25, Rocky Mountains, US, CD

Quick check in. Busy day. Will read posts later.

Hope everyone has/had a good Monday! ⚘⚘⚘

Day 26, Japan, NFD

Yesterday I ended up with 360 kcal which is a little bit lower than planned. Was about to have some steamed chicken breast for dinner but came home at 23:00 feeling that I should not eat anything right before going to bed. So a liquid fast day in the end. Did feel some dizziness at night… Do people doing water fast feel dizzy or lack of energy? Maybe because I’m having a very long ToM…9th day today…might try it again when I hit a plateau sometime.

A friend said she wanted to lose some weight before summer and I told her about this WoL that I’m practicing, sadly she seemed not to believe that this will do any good for the body and assumed that she could never fast even a single day. That’s the same reaction that I get from my family and I do feel a little bit frustrated that no one around me really understand what I’m doing and do not want to try it for themselves.
I think I’m just going to prove with my own results. Got a little bit more motivated now hahaha. 😉

Oh and I reached my goal for March this morning! Hooray!! Hopefully I can keep up to it even after some NFDs. I’m going on a long vacation next month so a little bit worried.

It’s still so cold here in Tokyo! Wish everyone a nice spring/autumn day!

@snowflake56 Aww hope you are feeling better now! We can slow down our pace whenever we need in this WoL. And I think your English is amazing from the beginning!
@daffodil2010 Hope you can get the permanent position! I’m on contract too and will try applying later this year.
@debster251 What a coincidence… my friend did not believe in this WoL either yesterday. That made me realize how open-minded we are here in the forum!
@fiftyandfabulous congrats on reaching your goal weight! Yaay! Together we can do it!
@flourbaby hahaha that’s so sweet of you!
@gretta I admire anyone who can run…Your effort will sure pay back!

Day 26 – Japan – NFD (probably, at least water fast #23 is in)

I’m 40 hours into my WFD so it is getting close to two days. However I worked out pretty hard, 305 pushups today. So I don’t think I’ll push the fasting much more as my body probably could use some protein at this point. I should have planned better and maybe ran instead. I’m feeling good at this point.

@shelliz I think if you get a reply from @ name it is because of your settings. I don’t ever get relies. Maybe there is something I don’t know.

Day 26 – 2nd post

@fiftyandfabulous thanks for the pep talk, I really needed that. Also really appreciate how much energy you’re putting into your spiritual wellbeing. I think I need to do the same.

@ciren2 good luck for DH’s surgery. Hopefully it provides him with the relief he needs.

@debster251 that is very frustrating. Maybe point her in the direction of one of MM’s shows or books? At least if she decides to make a change she can search it out herself, when she’s good and ready?

@betsylee I second what @basyjames has said. In addition, I had found that when I have extended plateaus despite doing ‘everything right’ is when my body shape makes the biggest change, and body fat percentage starts dropping – the scales may not move, but you’ll look better, and be leaner!!

@snowflake56 that doesn’t sound good, just listen to your body, hopefully the BP regulates quickly!

@annemarilyn yes I’m in Melbourne Australia, so apart from our pacific friends in NZ, I’m in the next timezone to hit the new day 

@shelliz dizziness could be that you haven’t had enough salt and/or water, but just listen to your body. Congrats on reaching your March goal! Running is just practice – start slow with short runs, and slowly build up the stamina – you’ll be surprised at how quickly you can build up distance and speed!

@dykask wow 305 push ups, what an effort! I can imagine your chest will be a little sore tomorrow

Day 26 – Ireland 🇮🇪 – FD

2nd of a B2B and it’s going well. I am doing gentle stretching exercises specifically for sciatica then throwing in some strength and abs work, and soon, I might try to do some gentle cardio….not sure if I can go back to Jillian Michaels Level 2 yet (yeah @flourbaby, it’s a killer) but I don’t want to lose the momentum.

@debster251 and @shelliz I have had numerous rows with a friend of mine over this WOL. We now work together (she recommended me for the contract position) so I say nothing now, but daily I watch her munch on cereals and snacks, then she is always starving at lunchtime..and her weight is not good. I just stay quiet and my body shows the results 😉

So I applied for the job, closing date tomorrow 27th March, exactly 4 years to the day when I took voluntary redundancy from my high flying job in the brewing industry. I went to study horticulture which I loved, got a job in a local glasshouse. Which I initially loved. Then the bullying and intimidation from my boss caused me to walk last July. Total stress. My friend above recommended me for some work in her place, and I have been there ever since. I really enjoy it. So maybe the dates are significant 🤔

Thank for your good wishes. @snowflake56 I am not sure how long it will take to interview etc, but let’s see. I am in as good a position as any as I am already doing the job, albeit covering a maternity leave for someone who is coming back in June.

Best of luck @ciren2 with the consultant for DH’s back.

Day 26 Pocket List
@emma-taylor
@daffodil2010

Day 26, London, UK, FD

Great to be back at work and fasting after 5 days off and all of them NFDs!!!

Todays’ menu will be a tuna salad for lunch and bone broth with mushrooms & spring onions for dinner…………. It WILL be enough!!

Does anyone know how it’s possible for Sainsbury’s to sell 5 doughnuts for 50p???? Are they subsidised by the Plus size clothes manufacturers??? Maybe by the makers of refined white stuff ………… sugar or flour??? Perhaps it’s the private healthcare providers who are watching the NHS struggle & wait to scoop up the desperate amongst us???? ……………………….. I bought a pack, I ate 2, I binned the rest, I felt guilt over the waste, I felt good for stopping at 2 ………………………. I still felt bad for even handing over my hard earned 50p for something I didn’t want or need!!! I’m still re-training my old brain!!!!

And on that cheery note …………….Stay strong everyone, avoid the doughnut, bread, cake, sweetie aisles they’re traps!!!!!!

And remember, as @at says ……………………….. “If I quit now, I will soon be back to where I started. And when I started, I was desperately wishing to be where I am now”

Day 26 Melb. Aust. 11:15 p.m. CD

Today was meant to be a FD, but I needed to buy some chocolates for some friends, and yes, succumbed myself. Still stayed a CD, but not the intended FD800. Oh well! Tomorrow is another day.

@fiftyandfabulous, thanks for the encouragement re persevering through plateaus.

@basyjames, @gretta & @snowflake56, you all mentioned the shape changes that can come with plateaus – yes, you’re right. I tried on and discarded for the op shop three pairs of trousers last night, and tried on a couple of pair which have been too tight to wear, and they fit – hurrah! My hips are definitely getting smaller.

@snowflake56, sorry to read of your dizziness. I do hope the treatment you’re receiving eases the problem for you.

@daffodil2010, Good luck with the job interview

@flourbaby, I chuckled to read of your doughnut exploits, throwing away the rest once you’d had a couple. I did that recently with some hot cross buns. Here, they come in packs of six, and I just wanted the taste, so I bought a packet a week or so ago, ate two, and threw the rest immediately into the bin, before I could talk myself into freezing the rest to avoid wastefulness. Much better to satisfy the urge, then remove the remaining temptation!!!

Onward and downwards everyone!

Day 26 USA FD 800

@snowflake56 I am sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. I will keep you in my prayer and wish that everything is going to get better soon!

I reach half my goal today, another 5 lbs and I will reach my goal for the month. I will try my best to put in the work, 800 calories each day and a 2 miles jog 5 days this week.

It has been awhile since I am active daily up here. Life has caught up with me. I hope everyone is doing well on their journey!

Day 26 Pocket List
@emma-taylor
@daffodil2010
@basyjames
@ann1239 FD800

USA Day 26 WFD

Finally, getting on board today! I always read all the posts before posting and that seems to take some time for me! LOL Anyway, congratulations to all of you who have successfully reached their March goals! Just wonderful! Snowflake56, you are in my prayers and I hope you are able to get to the bottom of this quickly!

Day 26 Pocket List
@emma-taylor
@daffodil2010
@basyjames
@ann1239 FD800
@ccco WFD

Gretta, here is my cabbage recipe. It is a simple low calorie recipe with only 21 calories per cup. Since cabbage takes on the flavor of whatever it is cooked in, I use different flavor broths, so here it is:
Ingredients: 2 tbsps. broth, 1 whole onion (I use red.), 3 cloves garlic 1 tbsp. olive oil,, 4 cups broth.

1. Cut cabbage into quarters; remove hard stem.

2. In a large pot, add butter, olive oil, onion, garlic, salt, pepper, and cabbage

3. Add broth (vegetable, chicken, turkey, beef, any broth you like, and toss.

4. Bring to boil over medium high heat.

5. Simmer 15 to 20 minutes, stirring occasionally, until cabbage is tender.

Hope you like this and its simplicity! Your family recipe sounds yummy, too!

Have a wonderful and successful day today!