Day 9 – USA (Illinois) – NFD

Maintaining, 158.8 this morning despite having a wonderful BBQ rib dinner with a friend last evening. Going to do a very CD today with fewer carbs and sugars than yesterday, although it did seem right at TDEE.

Onward and downward, all!

Hello day 9? Minneapolis nfd
Passed through Portage WI on our way to here, so waved as I know one of our group live there. Two tired teddies arrived last night – no way will I catch up on posts but hope you are all doing well. Remember you don’t fail if you don’t give up, you can reset anytime and you will get to goal. It is not a race, it is no ones journey but ours, we are all individuals and we find our own path x

@strawberriesandcream I know my limitations… a couple of drinks would turn into a bit more. Same reason I do 0 kcal on my FDs… I have no will power. So until I get to target weight, I shall forego it (or crash badly, like I did on Bank Holiday Monday).

@onahealthyhigh thank you for the welcoming. Still a lot of catching up with reading the posts I missed.

Day 9 Oregon USA FD
Yesterday went badly, had to go into Portland and then met a girlfriend for happy hour.
Today is FD and I’m looking forward to it.

Day 9, USA, Missouri Ozarks, NFD

Maintaining below goal weight of 145.

Hello all, pretty day here. I am going to do something SO exciting I can hardly breathe ! Poison the thistles in the upper corral.. Yippee….
Nah, seriously, I so enjoy working outdoors it will be fun.

Doing great with the food/exercise/water – don’t even give it much thought anymore as it is just part of my lifestyle. Had a Greek yogurt, strawberry, blueberry, vanilla almond milk smoothie for breakfast, it was yummy.

Wishing everybody well.

Day 9, Germany, NFD

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Hello from ABQ–I was finally able to do a proper fast day yesterday. Went a little over 800 calories but considering how bad I’ve been this month, it was a success. My Tuesday FD went south at dinner time (2500!). I’ve had a migraine and insomnia all week and so that makes it difficult to stick to a tough diet like this one–I need that sugar rush to feel ‘better’ I guess. It’s also why I’ve been stuck at 155 since the end of May. I’m going to try to keep to two FDs a week for the rest of June, and then in July try a 3xB2B. Maybe.

Hang in there, everyone.

Day 9 – SW WA USA – FD

Going for a FD. Saving most of my calories for the evening meal with a friend; probably Mexican food.

@at – I’m sorry your knee is still acting up. Have you got a good chiropractor? I had an injury that started with improper footwear during a 2 mi. walk a year ago. One thing led to another, turned into a tracking issue with my right knee, left foot compensating as I limped & causing soft tissue damage in my left heel. I went through the wrong chiropractor, a physiotherapist (that did some good) but things flared back up. For a few months now I’ve been under the care of a wonderful chiro who deals with extremeties. He’s been able to get to the root of things and works through the body from top to bottom. I’m feeling so much better. Just a thought for you.

@keetseel – what is ABQ?

@lindasue – I look forward to being able to say as you do: “Doing great with the food/exercise/water – don’t even give ite much thought anymore as it is part of my lifestyle.”

Hi Rainbow:

I don’t know what you mean by insulin resistance ‘happens’ in the presence of fats, not sugars.

The fact is eating carbs, which are all sugars by definition, and especially eating processed carbs like sugar, pasta, bread, etc., causes insulin resistance. The heart attack on plate is not a perfectly cooked, fat rimmed steak with butter on top, it is a doughnut. Eating fats prevents insulin resistance and reverses insulin resistance over time for those suffering from it. The same is not as true for eating protein, which can help cause insulin resistance and make you feel ill to boot if you eat too much of it (over 30 to 35% of calories from protein per day over time).

Science has confirmed the low fat diet, or high carb diet, whichever way you want to say it, has been the cause of the obesity epidemic.

Don’t worry about lowering your base metabolism, If you do worry, you don’t want to be on a weight loss diet because losing weight causes your metabolism to go down. That is because the body needs fewer calories to carry itself around and pump blood throughout the excess fat (one pound of fat has about 6-7 miles of capillaries that the heart has to pump blood through).

There are no known negative side effects of a lower metabolism, so worrying about it going down is a waste of time. But, as I say, if you don’t want your metabolism to go down for some reason, don’t diet. And if you want it to speed up, gain as much weight as possible.

Good Luck!

simcoeluv, this link will help you to understand a little more about how metabolism works: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/metabolism/art-20046508?pg=1

Changing your base metabolism, which is largely determined by your genes is not an easy thing to do. As long as you exercise enough to build muscle (even walking is a weight bearing exercise) and don’t starve yourself for long periods of time, it shouldn’t be a worry. If dieting caused your metabolism to slow down a great deal, then after losing a lot of weight, it would be quickly regained when going back to eating normally. People regain weight after dieting if they overeat, like they were probably doing before and which caused the initial weight gain. So habits have to change to normal eating, but you don’t have to be on a restricted diet to maintain weight loss.

Day 9 California USA NFD
Yesterday was a fasting day. I am down to 148.8 this morning, a 1.4 pound loss since June 1st and a 7 pound loss since I started the 5:2 way of eating on May 10th. I need to be mindful of what I eat on NFD and stop eating at night when reading or watching TV. I think that’s the key to losing more quickly.

Day 9–MA, USA–FD
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Feeling back in the groove of fasting, and feeling better about myself, too. Whenever I get off track, I need to just remind myself of how much better I feel physically and mentally when I stick to this WOL. As usual, the challenge will be staying controlled tomorrow and Sunday, which will be NFDs.

Happy weekend, everyone!

Day 9 – uk 🇬🇧- NFD

Life is v busy at the mo but despite plenty of temptation yesterday’s FD went well. Today’s NFD has ended with Friday Fizz – a fantastic feeling!!! Will certainly test this WOL – appear to be maintaining May’s goal weight at the mo. Have a fab weekend everyone 😊

Day 10 Shanghai China – NFD

Heavy rain today. Was sunny all week when I was at work.

Am reading Jason Fung’s book – The Complete Guide to Fasting – and finding it informative and inspirational.

I am now going to search for the Brewdog beer on taobao (which is the Chinese on-line market that sells everything). I have already ordered some magnesium to take at night. So, thanks to the sharers on this list for reading, drinking and other tips. My other fave take-away from you guys is http://www.olivemagazine.com/recipes/healthy/

Wishing you all a happy weekend!

Day 10 and 11, Germany, NFD

@strawberriesandcream I’ll keep my fingers crossed and hope the property viewing today goes well.

@at I’ll have a look at the dancers on youtube

@okeydokey have fun at the wedding and on your holiday

Day 10/NFD/Melbourne Australia

Bigbooty, your example of a sugar based donut to measure glucose wouldn’t be a good test because the donut contains both sugar and very likely saturated fat. Hard candy would increase my blood glucose levels for at least 2, probably 3 hours. The cheese would take more like 5 or 6 hours to see an increase because it takes longer to move through the gastrointestinal tract. We see a similar effect with diabetic patients that eat a high carb/high fat meal, like pastas with cheese or cream sauces. They use an appropriate amount of insulin to compensate for the high carbs which brings blood glucose to a normal level within a couple hours but then 5 or 6 hours later they see unexpected high blood glucose numbers after the insulin is finished working.

Day10 UK NFD

Just catching up on posts to keep focussed on what I eat over the next week or so. Was doing ok until last night, some friends have come down for the weekend as it’s the “boys” birthday. The boys are my hubby and his best friend who celebrate their birthdays one day apart. So it’s 57 today and tomorrow for the boys. Funnily enough the girls, of this equation also have birthdays a day apart.

So last night was a pub meal where as usual in the locals round here everything came with chips, at least I drove so only had a couple of drinks later. I had good intentions of not eating the chips but I was starving and they were too good. Tonight is out to another local pub where the food is nicer with a better choice, unfortunately it’s a taxi job so the wine will start early. Pocket winos I’m determined not to let the side down!
@okeydokey. Have a lovely day today at your nieces wedding 👰. Your whole family have worked so closely together and have been a great support to many on here. Dance, enjoy a few martinis and enjoy the food!

@fatrabbit, once again you’re losing that weight. I started here in February over 17 stones which Is where I think you roughly started, I’m down to just about 15 now and I remember your posts about being determined to get under 200 lbs which is my next big milestone. So every time it gets hard or I know I’m falling behind (see first para!) I think about your journey. You’ve got at least one person holding onto your coat tails as well as holding onto the wagon.

Enjoy the day everyone, bit dank and dismal here in Mid Wales but cottage is full with friends and sundry dogs, what’s not to like.

Day 10, London UK, FD,

Yesterday was so busy that I didn’t break my fast until 6pm, by which time I thought I could just settle for another FD, however, evening snacking put paid to that dream and ended the day as 20:4 below TDEE but not exactly the best choices…………. Cake anybody???

I’m thinking of trying the BSD 800cals this week just to see how it compares to ADF which I find suits my lifestyle. Time to experiment I think!!!!

@mia139, @fatrabbit, overeating is all in the mind, we just got used to it and had stretched our tummys without a second thought; could you have ever imagined eating a ‘normal’ portion and being satisfied??? The 1st couple of times I ate out since starting this WOL, I ate as I used to …………………. And suffered the foggy brain, night sweats; leg cramps and ‘I really AM about to pop!!’ feeling ………………….. Lesson well and truly learnt!!! I find it difficult to leave (waste) food and the portion sizes in restaurants are enormous, but I have to put myself 1st whether I offend anyone by saying ‘NO thanks’ or don’t finish every morsel of food on offer!! As you say @mia, no time for regrets and angst – I watched the Horizon programme on 5:2 when 1st broadcast many moons ago, where would I be now, if I’d pulled my finger out then and there and actually done it?????

@okeydokey, thanks for the shout-out, felt like a hug!! Enjoy the wedding, sample the goodies if you must…… then dance the extra calories away (watch the leg!!).

@Strawberriesandcream, I could hear your sigh of relief all the way here in London…………. Well done, you’re on a roll now!!! I’m with you on the sciency stuff, I have no need to check glucose levels etc. but I do listen to my body, and slowly I’m learning what it likes and doesn’t like, which is soooo different to what my brain & my dragon like (refined carbs!!) Are you still an ‘adaptable perfectionist’ I took that on board in Feb because ‘All or Nothing’ was me to a tee!! Did you ever think you would be drinking wine in moderation? I never understood what a wine bottle stopper was for (LOL) …..…… until now!!! Honestly? I have ploughed through an entire bottle of wine since starting this WOL, after all, old habits die hard, and it was just that ……. a habit!!! The 1st glass dimmed my resolve, then it was just a slippery slope until I upturned the bottle to shake out the last few drops!!!! No more, .…. now everything in moderation, I reckon I’d keel over on more than 2 medium glasses of shiraz now; alcohol tolerance goes down just as quickly as it went up!!!!

@bigviking ……….Way to go!!!!! You’re B2B-ing like a pro!!!!

Reading everyone’s post s today has stiffened my resolve, nothing harder than fasting at home on a lazy day!!!! I hope you’re all doing well and holding fast!!!! Onward & downward people!!!!!

Day 10 Belfast NFD
Eating to a 16:8 regime but sadly pocket winos, my resolve has gone kaput. Never mind, beck on the wagon on Sunday.
@Kirsnia when my boys left home I redecorated their rooms. Now when they return home, they call them the B&B rooms (bed and breakfast), although I would have difficulty in letting them out cos they’re still full of their rubbish!
@strawberriesandcream I totally agree. What a total mess our country has become.
@at I took your advice even before I read it! Bought an extra bottle of wine just in case and it happened to open itself! Lol! Life’s too short not to celebrate the sunshine, BBQ and a wonderful view in the Glens of Antrim. I don’t think your ballet programme was screened over here but it sounds amazing.
@okeydokey enjoy the wedding. Hope you’ve e a lovely outfit to wear! Enjoy every minute!
@fatrabbit I salute your tenacity!
@saffy420 and PashaW – great progress. Very well done.
A wet and very windy night passed and now the sun has come out. Am donning my walking boots for a big walk on the cliffs to despatch some of those calories! Have a good day everyone.

Day 10…..Florida…..FD

It feels so nice to wake up and know I don’t have to rush around and head to work. IT feels like, I haven’t had a Sat. off in ages! I have much to do though. Our termite inspection is next week, so I have to finish going through my closet. The floor in there is a complete mess, as clothes become to big, the donation pile has spread, so we our now not seeing the actual floor except for the path in and out. The husband also suggested, that I think about reducing the number of shoes I own as well.
Hello, my name is Michelle and I am a shoe hoarder…..
Then my herbs are done trying, so I need to remove the stems and get them crushed for future use. Finally, laundry, laundry and more laundry!
Days off sure would be perfect if I didn’t have so much to do!

@strawberries and cream, thank you for updating the spread sheet for me. I’ll have all the info for you in a couple hours.

Oh, now the real reason I’m here! FD today, at home, hopefully with so much to do, I will NOT be tempted. I’m making basta zucchini for dinner, which I’m looking forward too. Yesterday, I did eat tons of junk! Chips, 2 donuts and tons of soda! But still using MFP, which seems to help more then I thought it would!

Okay well I’m off! As I’m watching a momma bunny and her babies eating out of the garden. Last year, when momma was just a youngin, we save her from drowning in our pool, nursed her back to health. Although, we released her back into the wilderness when she was strong enough. So, she now lives in our yard. Well this spring she brought her babies to show us! Cutest little things! So, I set up a little garden for them to eat out of. Our big garden, we protect, so they don’t venture into it but they are having such a nice time grazing and playing chase! It’s so fun to watch! I’m easily getting side tracked from what I must do!

How much time and practice do you think it takes to become a expert at Kung-fu fighting?

Akron Oh, day 10 & 11 will be nfd for me. I hope everyone has a great weekend, keep the faith and make it all awesome.
Onward and downward buddies!!

CalifD,

Fair call on the glazed donut. However fat in and of itself produces a very small insulin response compared to carbohydrates and protein. Happy to be pointed to journal articles indicating otherwise. In the example you put forward Im not sure you are comparing apples with apples and are confounding two different responses. You mention that you see a delayed blood glucose response of several hours when fat is ingested. I suppose the circulation of triglycerides could see a modest increase in glucose? The ingestion of exogenous fats I find hard to believe would increase glucose and an insulin response?

You mention that you see this response in diabetic patients. Im assuming T1D? Under certain conditions this would make sense. The fat intake would slow down the absorption of glucose and if the diabetic were to have injected insulin this is typically short lived, perhaps 2-4 hours? The glucose could, because of the concomitant fat intake, take 4-5 hours to digest by which time the injected insulin would have abated just as the ingested carbs were being turned into glucose. In a normal non diabetic person I cant see why the ingestion of fats would cause a delayed glucose response?

Day 10 – USA (Illinois) – NFD

Maintaining under goal of 160 this morning. Still just under 25 BMI. Very happy that I can treat myself to a few things and still maintain. Wine with supper tonight, POCKET WINOS UNITE!

I have found out another retired teacher and Curves friend who I loaned my book to has lost 20 pounds! Yeah for her! A mutual friend told me, but I have not seen her yet. She seemed especially interested in “how I did it” myself.

Onward and downward!