Morning PBB and co.
I have just reread your reply and as much as I would like to think about this blinking weight increase but
A pound of muscle would weigh the same as a pound of fat and the same as a pound of feathers but they look difference, I would like to think mine is muscle LOL. Going out walking all day today. Speak later keep fasting, I am today. JIP

PVE, I do know how you feel, I came back from Tenerife on the 4th Feb this year and within 36 hours I had food poison the only good thing was all the weight I put on on the all inclusive 10 day holiday came off as quick as it went on. LOL. Hope you are better soon.

Hi PBB. I had more rum left in the bottle than I thought, so no I did not get to finish off the bottle or I would have had one hell of a hangover! So it’s back down the garage for another week or two. I think I will wait until I get to goal now I have to lose 2+1/2 lb. so I will keep to this.
I am fasting today I have been very good I have been walking,
I don’t know if anyone knows South Wales I live about 20 miles from the City of Cardiff I had bus to it and walked across the new water barrage that crosses to the town of Penarth started out from home at 10.40 and got home at 5.40 other than stopping for a large skinny cappuccino and a look around the shopping area. Walked almost 16000 steps 6.34 miles
I had chocolate flavoured Whey 90 calories before starting out
1/2 a banana ( shared with hubby)
1/2. Tin of chopped tin tomatoes
WW yoghurt
One carrot.
May have another cappuccino ( skinny of course ) later.
I am going to have be more careful,
I said on here somewhere that 100 grams of cantaloupe Mellon was 19 calories and I had a whole melon for 19 calories when the whole melon weighed 500 grams just 19 calories per 100 grams
Thank God it was only melon. LOL. JIP

Hello Ladies,
It’s a cold but sunny Thursday morning here in remote rural Australia.
I’m about to embark on my third fast day so did a ceremonial weigh-in first thing and I might have lost nearly 1kg but my scales are definitely dodgy so I take it with a pinch of salt. I bought the scales a couple of years ago for my husband to use when weighing calves – we have cattle and during calving he rides around the farm on his motorbike and any new calves are caught, tagged and weighed. The scales turned out not to be suitable, the display was not bright enough to read outside (while hanging onto a usually struggling calf and keeping an eye on Mum to make sure she’s not getting too ‘anxious’) so he took the bathroom scales and left me these dodgy ones.
PBB – my first fast day at work was very busy so I can see Thursday fasting should be ok and I might even come to like feeling empty if what I read is to be believed. Monday fast day is a day at home so I decided to join the Red Cross afternoon card players and try to play Five Hundred – I haven’t played cards for decades, I have a lot to learn. Some of the card players seem to enjoy themselves but others are very serious. If I survive the cards I just have to dodge the afternoon tea, well just the cake and biscuits.
VM

Hello!
Goodness today feels very, very good! 🙂
I got back from the hospital a couple of hours ago.
Though I can’t say it was a nice experience especially the anaesthetic, the staff were great and the operation was successful this time and the bleep bleep stone is completely gone. And gone to be analysed.

Thank you so much to everyone who wished me well. I really appreciate it.
Boy I had worked myself up into a state and had been feeling frightened these last 3 months. It’s understandable I think, human but futile.

Sobering to see my risk colour in the days order of work as pink when all but one other were green. But with a bit of application, 5:2 + low carbs, maybe I can still get back into that green-ish zone. At least away from the 50’s bmi zone.

Came home feeling really, really well. Much better than last time. The JJ stent they had left in before between my kidney and bladder is out now and it feels great.

Going to have a bit of a sleep now! Just thought I’d pop in and say hello 🙂 … and thanks for the support PBB and many other kind people. xx

Thintoart: sorry to say I have joined you on the naughty step. Have had a very rough week….no time to post and avoiding the thread per eating what was convenient and not usually diet worthy. Have no idea how much damage I have done…..never like to weigh until I have made up my mind to get back on straight and narrow. Company leaves tomorrow, so my excuses go with them.

Hi everyone. I’ve been on 5:2 for 4 weeks now. Lost 4 lbs. week 1, 2 lbs. week 2, 0 lbs. week 3, and tomorrow is weigh-day. Just a note that people might find interesting: I looked at all my vitamins, herbs, supplements, fiber etc. and added up all the calories. Some don’t have any, but some do. It appears that I’m taking about 190 calories worth per day! I was shocked! When I multiplied that times 365 and divided it by 3,500 (calories in a pound), it seems that’s 20 lbs. per year! Needless to say, I’m going to start cutting out a lot of them!

Lori

Hi PBB! Well, as you said I really didn’t have any choice so I’m
not sure it was brave and I shed a lot of fearful tears and took out shares in RR – but if I am allowed to suggest a name (is that allowed?)
What about Stone Gone?

Would be appropriate in many other situations! 🙂

Hi all- sorry a long one!
Well done, Speedy. SO pleased it was a success! Now be kind to yourself while you recuperate. Your new comment just came in…Stone Gone is cute. I like it. Congratulations.

Precious, I only had one dose of ACV to totally cure the food poisoning. My husband believes it strips the enamel off your teeth if you use it regularly. I don’t think he has an opinion on candida (but I’m sure he’d come up with one if asked!).

Lori,we both take lots of vitamins (me for arthritis, simply to last all day- Vit B-, to be happy- magnesium- etc). My very opinionated scientist husband did do a calculation re these and came up with a much lower calorie count than yours. If it was that high we would not have lost the masses of weight we have.

Violet May, KMart in Australia sell really cheap modern scales that do all the calculations Precious mentions. They are very accurate too.
Re daily calorie needs. Now that I am only 60kg (132.2 lbs, 9.4 stone) my scales now tell me my needs are 1540 cals per day. That means only 385 calories on fast days. This is very important to remember when the weight has dropped. We really do need to keep recalculating and watching our total intake on normal days. It is pointless to keep eating 2000 cal every normal day and expect to keep the weight off if you should only have 1500. That is nearly 2500 calories too much in a week even if you are doing fast days properly. Hopefully doing fast days helps you to reset your appetite, rethink your food choices and embrace the new life you have given yourself. YOU ARE IN CONTROL. According to Michael’s research, your body will still gain the health benefits of fasting (allowing cells to heal) but you won’t lose weight if you overeat every other day. This is not just a weight loss eating program, it is a healthy lifestyle. The spinoff is learning to take charge of your own health.
Eat less, choose wisely and weigh often to maintain control.

Lastly, remember, one glass of water weighs 250gm (1/2 pound)so 4 glasses before I weigh myself would add a kilo. Your weight WILL fluctuate massively with the normal daily activities unrelated to fasting. Keep the faith. You can do it!

My body fat still reads as 32%, yet I am skinny with bones showing and my waist measurement is 1/2 my height..lost 10.6″ in a year. I don’t think I’ll ever get to 30% body fat. C’est la vie!

I love the way we talk from all over the world. When my little mates in the UK get online in the evening, I am being woken up by the bling of my phone letting me know about the new posts. What a tiny world we live in.
Cheers to all,
PVE

Anto58, I tried this calculation in centimeters first and got 50%, which seems like way too much, then tried it in inches and got 19.5%, which seems like too little for a 57 year old woman with a BMI of 20.4, it doesn’t seem like my body fat % would go below 20% unless I was *way* thinner. Most of my fat is in my belly and boobs (hip size 2 sizes smaller than dress (bust) size and 3 sizes smaller than waist size), which don’t seem to come into the equation anywhere. What do you think? Does the equation work for apple-shaped people, too?

Franfit, apologies should have made it clear measurements were in inches. With a BMI of 20, I wouldn’t be surprised that you come out with such a low body fat percentage, though I can see what you mean about the formula not taking account of apple shapes. What the book says is: for most people the test is within 2 percentage points of the “real thing”. The exceptions are where someone is either very very fit, where it can overestimate the fat percentage by 3-5 percentage points or where they have a low BMI but are not fit, in which case it can underestimate by an equivalent amount. Hope this helps.

Anto58, that’s me, low BMI but not fit, also carry most of my fat above the hips, so I would bet it underestimates for me by about 5% at least. Am only able to get a little bit fit because of medical problems, so I keep working at it, slowly. At least I can walk a whole lot more than I could a few months ago — so maybe most of what fitness I do have is in my calves, lol. Still it’s a very interesting equation.

Hi PreciousBooBoo and all the other LOACA’s, the LOACA Lurker is still here … still lurking! I’m still reading the posts on this thread when I can, but I’m going through a really busy phase at the moment and am chasing my tail. Also, I’m not doing very well on the FD front, so have taken to lurking even deeper into the shadows ;o)

Despite that, I try to keep up with this thread and am loving so many of the humourous characters on here.

I’ll be back but, in the meantime, keeeep fasting!

Good morning and PVE,
I thought you may like this poem and even if you have seen it some may not have.
When I Am Old. I love it. JIP

When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat that doesn’t go, and doesn’t suit me,
And I shall spend my pension
on brandy and summer gloves
And satin sandals,
and say we’ve no money for butter.
I shall sit down on the pavement when I am tired,
And gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells,
And run my stick along the public railings,
And make up for the sobriety of my youth.
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
And pick the flowers in other people’s gardens,
And learn to spit.
You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat,
And eat three pounds of sausages at a go,
Or only bread and pickle for a week,
And hoard pens and pencils and beer mats
and things in boxes.
But now we must have clothes that keep us dry,
And pay our rent and not swear in the street,
And set a good example for the children.
We will have friends to dinner and read the papers.
But maybe I ought to practise a little now?
So people who know me
are not too shocked and surprised,
When suddenly I am old
and start to wear purple!

Jenny Joseph

Love that poem 🙂

Me too. Thanks, JIP, for the reminder of what is already a favourite. It’s up there with Philip Larkin’s ‘This Be the Verse’, which I won’t quote from in polite company, but with which I totally identify with. Here’s a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rjRYSfCJvM

Larkin was invited, but refused, to take up the appointment of Poet Laureate. I wonder whether it was because he knew he couldn’t have resisted reciting it to the other Hermaj, the one at Buck House. 🙂

Just to prove that he didn’t just write rude poems (and that I’m not a total philistine!) here are links to two more, each very beautiful and very moving:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xghnqo_philip-larkin-an-arundel-tomb_creation

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjyjje_philip-larkin-the-whitsun-weddings_creation

Enjoy!

Thank you so much PBB!
I would like to thank my dog, my anaesthetist, my urologist but special warm thanks to my friends and supporters on here who gave me courage! 🙂

And huge congratulations to Piper, who is very deserving of that hard won award!

xx

and about speeches, good grief! Once I was posting late at night and told Nika something like ‘Sorry to here about you dad’. I was mortified, which is a total overreaction. No big deal. 🙂

Hi piper, I think this 139 and 138 is like a chain around our necks, I want to see my scales say those magic numbers too but they seems to be off the scales. LOL. we can do this together with a little help from our friends which is another song. Cannot for the life of me think who sang it. Keeeeep fassssssting. JIP

If the Candida support helps you in any way then I’m happy to help – it’s worth a shot and you’re right it’s not too expensive to use even on a long term basis. I think you may be right in that mine had taken a real hold, I’ve read loads about it (and sounds like you have too) even to the point of downloading a book about it on kindle and it was the book that said about what can eliminate candida from the body. It recommended Pau D’arco and capriylic acid and both are in the CS supplement (plus a few other things which must help). The book also said to keep away from sugar, fermented products, wine and mushrooms because they feed the candida and keep it thriving in the body. Must admit like you I love my wine and drink it a few times a week and I also love mushrooms. Don’t eat much bread/cheese though and whilst taking the tablets I didn’t stop eating and drinking what I enjoyed and the thrush still went. I’m convinced in my case it was connected in some way to my menstrual cycle and always appeared about the week before and lasted about 1-2 weeks so at it’s worst I wasn’t free of it for much of the month really. Touch wood I only get the odd flare up of it where as before it was every month, I start taking the CS straight away and it usually goes within a week or so. If you get some I’d give it a couple of months to give it them a chance to work and see how you go, maybe if it helps you’ll just need to take them ‘as and when’. Let me know how you go with them anyway (they have got damn good reviews on Amazon so they must be working for alot of people), I’ll keep my fingers crossed anyway.
Karen