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Precious Boo
Sylvestra has posted on the FB page that she will not be posting here again although she can still read the forum. The ‘grudge from October’ comment is a mistake made here by a poster – in the US they write the date as 10:02:14 not 02:10:14 as we do, therefore she thought your date referred to October not February.
Lets hope time heals both your hurts and that the rest of us can enjoy your (both of you) company, advise and support again. x
@ Precious Boo Boo … I’m just a lurker here, need to get back into the 5:2 WOE but this time I’ll stick to TDEE on the 5 days instead of calorie reduction on those days PLUS the 2 fast days. I tried it that way at the beginning of January and made it through 14 days – then “gave up.” I also have an elliptical I purchased last fall … and have every intention of jumping on that for HIIT – for crying outloud, I only need 5 spare minutes for that but have been “unable” to “spare” those 5 minutes. AAARGH.
Re the FB vs this forum … I do believe that the “October” thing is because of your date nomenclature …
“I’ve just been reading back over the recent posts; and I noticed yours of **10.02.14** sylvestra – and I feel I have to put you right. This isn’t the ‘facebook page’ for Lloaca’s – this is the fast diet thread for ‘Ladies of a Certain Age’.”
The “10.02.14” is being mis-read as October 2, 2014, which obviously isn’t here yet, and I am quite sure you meant February 10, 2014. Yes, at that point, Sylvestra did say this is FB … but I believe she meant that this forum is like FB … obviously it is not, and when she started asking if we’d like a FB page, I thought that was a grand addition to this forum.
That being said, I enjoy reading the posts in this forum that come to me automatically via email, as well as being able to participate in the FB page. I personally believe there is plenty of room for both. And I think it’s high time to simply drop the entire subject!
Now, I just need to find me some motivation … and get back on track.
:o)
Here I am again. Would you believe I am still afraid of doing one day of fasting. I have been on the HCG diet and I only would have 700-800 cal per day. I lost 40 lbs, and have only gained 10 back, but for some reason, I am afraid to do the 500 calories. I think it is because my TDEE is 1308 and 1/4 of that is 327 calories, not 500. Am I figuring it wrong. I think 500 is too much, but I know that 327 isn’t enough. Please help me if you have encountered the same problem, or maybe it’s just me. Thanks
Hi
As an RN and a fitness nurse, I have just started recommending this plan and concept to some of my clients with great success. I think it helps to actually log your calories into a program such as spark people or fitness pal for the fast days and especially for the non fast days. It has really helped my clients to have a greater understanding of their food intake throughout their week. It also has helped them to concentrate on consuming “healthy” foods on the fast days that keep you fuller for not much calories. Hope that helps a bit.
On another thread I just wrote that many fat people seem to be in denial about the number of calories they consume and the amount of exercise they do. By ‘many people’ I meant me. I was seeing a physiotherapist this week who is helping me with arthritis and it was his comment to me that set me thinking about this. He said “Tell me the truth about how many times you did the exercises this week, not what you wished you had done or what you think I want to hear.” Said bluntly like that I actually thought very carefully before I replied.
I realised I still lie to myself about my consumption and exercise – and then I went looking at scientific papers/theories that deal with self-delusion and why we do it. Will summarise here soon, but believe me this is interesting stuff. We are kidding no one but ourselves. We are killing no one but ourselves. Self delusion is a hurdle to get over. Losing weight and being healthy is in the mind AND in the math. This week I am going to go back to square one and weigh and record every morsel, and wear my pedometer and I am going to be brutally painfully honest with myself.
The voice that says “you really really want to be fit and healthy” needs to be stronger than the impulses that makes you eat rubbish and sit on the couch.
One final word on the rift between @precious Boo Boo and @sylvestra (and I’m surprised that no one else has noticed this): it all started because of a typo! On the 10th February, when @sylvestra wrote: “This is our Facebook page”, she obviously forgot to right-click and paste the link to it (https://www.facebook.com/groups/LLOACAsWA/). She wasn’t implying that this forum was the Facebook page. Obviously, she was just informing the newbies that there is a new Facebook page available for any LOACA who has a Facebook account and might like to see the faces behind the pseudonyms and share recipes, news articles, etc, as well as a more immediate form of exchanging encouraging comments. Attitudes to Facebook are like attitudes to the 5:2 WOE – if you don’t understand how it works, you dismiss it as a fad and a dangerous practice.
Hi all, am new to this site and this diet. I have been dieting since I was 16 years old as my weight always crept back up, but on the whole managed to keep most of the excess off by counting calories when things got out of control. However, with the onset of a “certain age”, I’ve found it to be really tough to keep on top of things. I’m hoping that this new way of life will give me a new approach and that this forum will help when things get rough.
Hi
Just wanted to thank you ladies who have helped out. Ive been on the forum for about a week and have reinforced my theory that forums are a breeding ground for unpleasantness and childish gossip and arguments.
Thanks again and all the best for everyone in their efforts to get healthy, but I’ll get and give my support elsewhere.
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I had intended to use the FB page and this forum for help,support and guidance. There is a wealth of knowledge and experience in this thread. However,I won’t be visiting again.
Sylvestra has apologised for the omission of the link and you, PreciousBooBoo, do not have the good grace to accept and draw a line under it.
The fact that the FB group is a closed group means that there is more control who sees it/ has access to it and therefore, the less likely there is to be bullying or that there will be trolls.
We provide support for one another when 5:2 has proved difficult, celebrated when things have gone well and there’s the added bonus of light hearted banter.
There is nothing being said about you PreciousBooboo because the whole thing is tedious. A mountain blown up out of a molehill. It was a simple mistake – nothing more.
@carm I’m so sorry you’ve had such a disappointing experience with the forum and I can quite see how you’ve come to your decision. Please take a look at the FB group and I can assure you there’s none of this.
Really, wow, no kidding.
A lot of people are taking one side or the other, without figuring out why either person feels the way they do–please, Boo and Sylvestra, no more defensive replies.
PreciousBooBoo started this thread, I don’t know how long ago, and for months and months welcomed others and facilitated the site. I know she loved this thread and probably missed us everyday. It was part of her life. I missed her a lot. She left because of a major life event- a move to a new place. She was only gone for a few weeks and came back as almost a stranger. How many people welcomed her back? or even knew who she was?
Boo, Sylvestra wasn’t trying to undermine the thread-she just thought a FB page would be a cool idea, like another thread proposed. She wasn’t trying to hurt the thread.
L1nda- Sylvestra apologized for the omission, not for starting the FB page…not that she should, but on the other hand, some of us will feel left out.
Sylvestra, you didn’t step on PBB’s toes, you stepped on her heart, even if you didn’t mean to…
I WANT US TO ALL COME BACK !-
Applecrisp, you aren’t the only one who feels like they put their foot in it! and you never did.
sharATL , I agree with your post we are here to support each other. I have not been on facebook and probably never will. This is a great place to post. I have said some things on this thread that were hurtful, though I did not intend to hurt anyone. I know at times I am sensitive and take things to heart when I shoud not. I post on other sites mostly about TV shows that no one I know likes. They are much less personal and often people are quite “snarky”. This is and should be a kinder, gentler thread as we discuss serious issues. I am grateful to all who have given me good advice and I want to say Precious Boo Boo has been a great host. Very welcomimg to new members.
I hope this thread will continue to grow and thrive and people on FB will still come here. We all agree on one thing that this is a great WOE.
Today, I started a fast day and couldn’t finish I feel bad. I think my period is around the corner and I was starving. Oh well I’m not perfect. Has this happened to others. At about 10:30 I just couldn’t stand it anymore so tomorrow wil be another fast.
Hey, Applecrisp–I’ll be joining you in a fast day do-over tomorrow since, I, too couldn’t see this one through hungry any longer! This evening just killed me, and I succumbed to a large handful of Cheezits, amongst other things. Sigh. The rest of the day went pretty well, so I’m trying to take some solace in that. Better luck tomorrow? Let us know how it goes!
I’m around @applecrisp, just avoiding the drama. I’ve been on the ‘net long enough to stay away from it. I’m looking forward to my next fast day – not sure if I’ll do Thursday or Friday, but suspect that I may need to do ADF to lose any weight. Sucks to be me!
Glad people are back! Hi! Aria and Piper good luck on the interview. I had such a hard day yesterday, so it would have been worse if I had worked like you Loretta. Curious about the show you worked on, was it a true crime show?
What do others do when having such a hard time fasting? It was even a do over fast, both Shar and I had to fast on Tuesday. I am going to try again on Friday and just hope it goes better. Have a good day everyone and am glad there are people on this thread.
I am also fasting today – 2nd of what I hope will be 3 this week, just to try to kick a couple of pounds off my plateau! My 3rd will be Saturday (arggghhh).
I am close to that ‘next stone down’ mark on the scales, I find that and the half stone mark so encouraging to see 🙂
I feel for you loretta – but your job sounds very interesting, tell us more. 🙂
I find that I must keep plenty busy, and fast days are not so bad … and most important I must plan my meals ahead of time. I work at home, start my weekdays at 3 a.m. and don’t typically eat until maybe 10:30 in the morning. On fast days, I try to push supper out to around 6 or 6:30 (instead of 5 or 5:30) because I typically have lights out at 8 p.m. and I don’t like going to bed hungry. lol.
I am 59 and started the 5:2 in April last year. I had a few Christmas pounds to shift and wanted a new approach for motivation. I lost about 12 pounds altogether and my body shape has changed delightfully.I’m 5’6″ and reached 9 stone 6-7pounds. Since losing the weight, I fasted for one or two days for maintenance. HOWEVER, for the last week or so, I have put on 3 pounds. I am devastated! I can only presume that I’ve been eating too much on my non-fast days?? Or, maybe, the wonderful menopause is the culprit as hot flushes have gone through the roof in intensity (they’ve so far passed me by more or less) and my skin feels like a wrinkled prune. Is the increase due to water retention? Everything has been working great up to now??! I can’t increase the exercise easily due to the Chronic Fatigue that I suffer from (it’s not too bad (am getting better )but need to pace and be sensible). I can only go back to basics I suppose, continue fasting 2 days and watch the calorie intake on other days. I didn’t want to do the latter as the most wonderful thing about this approach is the lack of guilt with eating now. Can anyone offer advice please?
Hello, All, and welcome to the newest 5:2’ers! Applecrisp, did you survive yesterday? I did, but it wasn’t the strictest fast I’ve ever done…I did wind up the day with a nice glass of wine as I packed for my vacation. At the airport now, so this will be brief, and I will be offline for the next week; I just wanted to put in a few words of encouragement before I take off. Choccywoccy, that mysterious and sudden 3 lb gain definitely sounds like menopausal wonkiness! Happened to me last month, but with a 4 lb gain in 2 days!! I’ve worked to get rid of it again over the past several weeks, but my heart goes out to you…to work so hard to make that scale go down and then to see it suddenly go the wrong direction–it can be discouraging. But don’t give up! Just continue your good and healthy efforts & you’ll be back to your new low again soon. And here’s the happy news that I wanted to share as I head out of town…packing last night for this tropical vacation was so fun because I was able to bring new, SMALLER clothes along–yay! And as I looked into my closet, I pulled out a cute pair of summery, slim pants that I had bought last summer, hoping to be able to wear on a trip last June. Well, I could squeeze into them then, but it wasn’t pretty and I ended up hanging them back in the closet, never worn. Last night, I decided to pull them off the hanger and give them a try and believe it or not, they were loose! It was such a concrete, tangible payoff for my 5:2 efforts these past 6 months. I could remember wedging myself into them in my hotel room last June, looking in the mirror and peeling them off again, disheartened by my inability to lose the weight that had been following me around for the last 5 years. This 5:2 plan is the thing that finally helped me stop losing and regaining the same 7 lbs (as much as I could ever lose before giving up); I have truly turned a corner, am down 17 lbs so far and am absolutely positive that I will continue to slowly but surely lose the remaining 12 lbs that I have wanted to since having my late life baby 8 years ago. Seventeen pounds in 6 months might seem discouragingly slow to some, but I am just thrilled that the weight is gone, no matter how long it takes.
Hope my little story here offers those of you who are fasting today or later this week–not easy for me no matter how long I do it!–
encouragement to stick with it. It is so worth it. Take care, all of you determined women–I’ll check in again when I return.
Cheers!
Talk about wonkiness – was away from home for my weigh in on Saturday so did it this morning – 4.2kg heavier in 12 days. I would have noticed eating an extra 14000+ calories so some of it must be fluid retention. I did eat some yoghurt earlier in the week (and I’m lactose intolerant) so who knows. I can just keep on doing the correct thing. Had the hormones checked late last year & I wasn’t perimenopausal.
@piper, good luck with the interview – hope its a job that’s good for you & them.
Don’t worry, I’m too resilient to be defeated, but there’s a reason even my doctor thinks I’m a little challenging. I’m thinking of doing ADF for a couple of weeks.
Hi all im starting again from today as I have been ill for the last month, so my fast day today is a fresh start,
I have been keeping up with the forums but just not had the motivation to start fasting again, im finding it difficult to get through this first day back, but I know how pleased with myself I will be tomorrow.
Has anyone else found in hard to get back to fasting after time out,, or illness.
Mossend
Sorry to hear you have been unwell mossend and hope you are well on the way to recovery now.
I found when I took holidays last year and didnt fast I couldnt wait to get back for a fast day! I was lucky enough to have two cruises (only two weeks each away)and everyone knows they are floating buffets!
I am sure you will soon pick it up again 🙂
I am almost through today’s fast and am so much more positive since entering this forum yesterday for the first time and discovering that me putting on weight is not a unique experience. Thank you to those who responded! How easy it is for the guilt to return though, as soon as things don’t turn out as expected despite doing all the ‘right’ things. I shall just keep jogging along as there is no way I want to return to the old dieting yo-yo regimes.
Yippee! It will soon be supper time!! And then, breakfast tomorrow. Am already planning with eager anticipation what to have ……….(sad but true)
lol @ choccywoccy!
We all do that during the evening of a fast day. Tomorrow I will have…(insert your guilty lust foodwise here…) but I usually find when ‘tomorrow’ comes I don’t really want anything that will spoil my work of ‘yesterday’. That is not to say I don’t indulge in ‘naughty but nice’ treats, but nowhere near as often as I would have in the yo yo dieting days of the past. In fact when I and my bestie used WW, we would buy cream cakes as a treat for after the weigh in where neither of us lost more than half a pound a week.
Been doing well on my Thursday fast..but yesterday..was so hungry..I went over! It was a travel day. However, despite the fact that I went over my fast calories yesterday, I will perservere. I “feel different” after doing this for about 4 weeks now. My clothes “feel different”. My brain feels a little sharper, I have more energy. When I weigh, well, not seeing too much in that department, but we shall see what story time tells. I continue to track my food and activities using MyFitnessPal and my Fitbit. It helps, for me!
Earlybird199, I have gone over on fast days as well. I just figure I still ate very little so I don’t worry about it. I’m taking supplements from my Dr. since September and started this diet in Jan. I have noticed how much better I feel. My aches and pains have subsided, have more energy and my mood is better most days.
Today is my fast day, my last fast was hard, but I already I feel like I will persevere today. It seems every fast day is different, some easy and some are agony – though fewer and far between on this journey.
Good luck to all fasters on February 21st. (Time flies)
Hello again. I have just come home after a wonderful 5-day (4-night) holiday at beautiful Cabarita Beach, in northern NSW, but I seem to have brought back an extra 0.7 kg (1.5 lbs) in my luggage! I can’t be surprised at my weight gain, after dining out and drinking several wines every night, but I did swap my fast days to last Sunday and yesterday (Friday), instead of Monday and Thursday, in the hope of minimising my weight gain. I also walked 4 km every day along the beach and did two cliff-climb walks as well. Never mind. Back to the old routine next week and, hopefully, on the downhill road again soon. Hope you are also having a great holiday, @sharatl!
Hello all!
I am so happy to hear from all!
I am an American, but kind of shy… or maybe introverted, but my company decided to save me…. because I can’t pass an interview to save my life…I will never be able to say why I am better than someone else…cause I don’t think I am. I love you all so much! xP
Piper you sound like my nephew who is an electrical engineer, he couldn’t say he was an expert in his field and was having trouble getting a job. His mother worked in HR and said “If you’re not an expert than who is”. I was worried about him but he did find a job. Interviews are really hard for me too. Happy you still have your job.
i fasted yesterday and did much better. Tried on some old clothes that were too tight and some actually fit. For me that is the best part of a diet. In recent years i’ve hated shopping because it was so hard to find what I wanted. One thing I did notice. More things were snug around my waiste compared to my thighs/butt- has anyone noticed their body shape has changed??
Gomarg, glad you had a good vacation.
@ iwfama when you lose weight input your details into the TDEE calculator again with your new weight and your BMR and TDEE will change. Usually the calorie value goes down which is what enables you to continue losing weight.
I usually check mine once a month then adjust my fast days accordingly and eat somewhere between my BMR and TDEE on normal days (or occasionally over the top 😛 ).
Nice to see you again PBB 🙂
Water under the bridge and all that…………..
Thank you, @applecrisp. I’ve also noticed that in my 4 months on the 5:2 Fast plan I have lost most weight from the legs and butt, not so much from the hips and abdomen, but a fair bit from the waist and arms. I wonder if that is more from all the walking I’ve been doing, rather than from fasting alone? I also enjoy trying on clothes, that I haven’t worn for several years, but fit me now – I don’t care if they are out of fashion. There are still a few in my wardrobe that are a bit tight as yet. My mind is still in holiday mode. I had some wine last night that we brought back from our trip. I know I can’t become a regular drinker again and still lose weight, so I need to start getting motivated for the coming week. Fast day tomorrow!
Well a very late new poster here in this thread . me and my hot flushes say HI!!
Have not read all the posts as there are far too many to take on board and respond to as I don’t know you girls yet. but, you seem like a really nice bunch and I hope any past iffy moments have been put to bed. it is lovely to see the starter of the thread Boo Boo back and let’s get on with what the forum is about – losing weight, getting fitter and slimmer and also making and keeping some good friendships!
Hi everyone 🙂
I haven’t posted for a while, and don’t really have much to say, now that I am on maintenance (apart from, of course, welcome to all the newbies and to wish everyone the best on their downwards journey), but I did want to touch base wiith PreciousBooBoo – there is a post from me to you in the topic you set up for me, and I wondered if you has seen it?
I am finding maintenance more of a challenge than when I was aiming to lose weight – for example, I find it more difficult to resist cravings, and I overeat on most non-fast days, so still need to do 2 fasts a week to maintain my weight – which is not ideal. But given I did find losing weight pretty easy, it is probably only fair that the maintenance aspect is my real challenge!! 🙂
Best wishes to you all
Sassy 😀
Hi! Precious Boo Boo, so glad you are back. Thank you for the kind words. I agree about Dr. Mosley, he is decent and intelligent and am hppy I found this WOE. It just makes sense to me.
My adrenal fatigue is getting better. My only complaint is that my anxiety hasn’t improved as much as I had hoped. Sometimes when you are coping with an illness you become quite sensitive- which I think has happened to me. I continue to post on this thread because people are encouraging. I have gotten some really good advice. Boo you have directed me to some very good resources and inspired me to find answers on the this website and others. So now I have added a probiotic to my diet(rec’d on this site) and Biotin for healthier hair. We shall see.
I have become a big fan of You Tube tutorials. They are so varied and cover virtually any topic. So I am currently learning how to crochet. The lady who teaches it is a natural. My problem is telling my friend I don’t really need her help. it is so much easier to simply rewind.
My eating habits are getting better and am buying less at the grocery store. My sister bought me “The Dash Diet” book and cook book as it was rated #1 diet for the year. I have found some good recipes in the cookbook but the diet is scarcely different from Weight Watchers or the myriad other diets. I will always be interested in the latest diets becuase I used to be a dietian and remain interested in the reasoning behind a new craze. However my interest is decreasing.
Sassy congrats on losing the weight, I know maintaining is a struggle. As you said the losing part was easy . Good luck! Your success and others is what reminds us why we are fasting two times a week.
Hello to all 🙂
Ladies- we’re at 1000!
Applecrisp- 10yo Granddaughter spent the night and she “knit” a hairband by using some technique called finger knitting, which littlest granddaughter learned in kindergarten. I’ve been learning how to knit. U-tube is a great resource. I like Ted talks, also. Latest one that I watched was about power posing. Stand like Superman for two minutes. It’s supposed to increase confidence. Are you getting enough vitamin D?
Boo, Sassy, Gomarg,
I’ve been taking a break. On Christmas Eve, I was down to 139. I’m now about 142, but was having severe stomache/ bowel issues, so I’ve tried to sort that out by such things as more fiber, eating kefir, and like Applecrisp, using a probiotic. It seems to be helping. I also quit smoking, so at this time I’m happy to maintain. (Sassy, maintenence is always the hardest!)
I don’t snack as much and have natural fast days, but not so many scheduled days. Most of the weight I lost has been off lower belly and waist, not so much other places. I will give myself a while longer and then jump back in.
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