HappyNow, I have the toastrack, too, with a couple of size G or H very droopy things hanging off of it! Not a good look without serious foundation garment help!

Auriga, I really enjoyed reading ‘The Big Fat Surprise’, hope you do, too 🙂

I had a good PT appointment today and took care of some business I’ve been avoiding, good to get it out of the way, temperatures here soared to 91F (33C), rather uncomfortable walking around the city. Because of my business I actually work a skirt outfit (black knit pencil skirt, dark grey knit top, long black/white/grey polka-dot scarf tied at high-hip level as a belt, long slim black cardigan, black flats), hair up in a bun, white topaz studs and small hair clips with gray ‘pearls’ and marcasites. Very elegant for me who is usually in jeans and a braid. Carried my gym clothes and paperwork in a black ‘leather’ tote, wallet and make-up in a bright periwinkle bag, bright lipstick too for a pop of color. I am still getting used to the way I look now. People are so heavy any more that I feel like a member of a privileged, elite club. Managed ~ 9,500 steps. Treated myself to lunch, but could only eat about half of it. I think it was just too hot out to eat much, even a salad.

Started listening to ‘Fat Chance: Beating the Odds Against Sugar, Processed Food, Obesity, and Disease’ on audiobook while knitting on the train. It seems like more of a polemic than some of the books I’ve been reading, but still interesting. There was a ‘Time’ magazine in the waiting room with a cover story on how the whole low-fat thing was a big mistake. It seems like the word is finally getting out. I’m just a little worried that people are going to start feeling like nothing is safe to eat or that no dietary advice can be trusted. Actually I don’t think there is a whole lot of dietary advice that can be trusted, you have to really pay close attention to sort out the good from the bad in the nutrient wars. It seems like the best thing is to pay attention to how your own body reacts to foods and ways of eating.

Happy maintaining, everyone!

Happynow,
I also have a very ribby chest, but, hey, I can live with that to fit into my small clothes. JIP seems to be the only one who has maintained her breasts!
PVE

Dear PVE, Unlike you I broke my 24 hour fast with a 420 calorie high protein (feta and olive oil) meal. I actually slept like a log, so in that respect I had no problems. But, and as I said, I didn’t enjoy it and doubt I will attemp it again. My fast days are always 16/8, in fact my usual routine is 16/8, I rarely eat after 7pm and almost never start eating before 1pm, that seems to suit me and I’m hopeful it gives me all the health benefits of fasting. I have to say that, like you, I was very peckish yesterday and for the first time in as long as i can remember, I chose a pizza for lunch out with friends and washed it down with beer, and thoroughly enjoyed it, so I’ve probably undone all the good of the fast! I so admire Augira, she’s showing true grit, I think if one can manage the 24 hour fast that marvellous and good luck to her and I’m glad I did it (once) ha ha.

Dear PVE, I’ve maintained my large bust, as I believe has FranFit. I wore a figure hugging short Moschino brightly patterned navy and white floral design dress to lunch yesterday and received many complements. I’ve always been top heavy and still am, although my boobs are smaller now, so are my hips, so I’m still top-heavy. I love my boobs more now that they sit nicely in my bras and no longer spill out over the top of my bras and my clothes. I’ve lost all my back fat and that’s the change I’m most happy with. Yes, I’m very contented with my new body :-))
P.S: Omitted to say that the beautiful Moschino dress, is a very generous cast-off from a friend who is a hell of a lot richer than me!

Auriga, 7 am is not too bad. 5 am is! Enjoy the book.
I just added my day’s food into fitbit and it is WAY less than they say I should have (600 spare cal even with including dinner) Can’t be right. I’m sure I’ve eaten plenty. I don’t like the way it assumes you eat processed foods. Very hard to find the fresh items:(
I’m like you, Happynow, “pancakes draped over a toastrack” URHHGGG! Lucky you, Elaine!! Maybe I was never meant to be buxom.
PVE

HappyNow, I love your posts, witty, intellegent, informative , so glad you’re writing on this link. Pancakes over a toast rack ha ha love it! My daughter used to describe my bras as “over the shoulder, bolder holders”, tells u all u need to know!
I totally agree with your point of view and your insightful observation, that all other animals manage their diets without any “expert advice”. Unfortunately, the animals that don’t fair so well are the ones in locked up in factories being force-fed by humans, for humans…

Dear Augira, Interesting to hear that your bust has increased, it backs up the theory that one only loses fat on this diet and as I’ve said before, I’ve demonstrated this with my new bioanalytical scales. I wasn’t at my heaviest when I first used them being 10.4 (65.3kgs) when my fat reading was 33.2% (normal 25.1-30%), this week at 9.3 (58.5kgs) my fat reading was 26.5% within normal range and 6.7% lower. My muscle mass has increase by 2.9% without my making any particular effort. Honestly fasting really is a win win regime. Loving this forum. Well done to you on your second 24 hour fast, you did inspire us all. HappyNow gave us all a good laugh this morning with her “pancakes draped over a toast rack” remark! What a nice way to start the day, with a large smile.

Just finished our dinner Auriga.
I read your message as we ate. My husband is (as Jane Austen would say )
“exceedingly distracted” by all your posts! The pork was ok but by far and away the best was cauliflower rice!
Grate a cauliflower, saute an onion and garlic, add a little stock and the cauliflower. Steam for about 7 minutes. Served with baked red capsicum, fennel, carrot and zucchini. Fabulous non fast meal. Fitbit said I was still in calorie deficit so it seemed reasonable to have a second glass of wine and some strawberries and REAL CREAM for desert. Woah!
Don’t worry. I’ll fast again tomorrow:)
Have a good day western hemisphere buddies.
PVE 🙂

Mmmm….pancakes moulded into melons. I don’t think we are taking this seriously any more 😉 😉
Dave and Mimi will probably never visit again!
Such a laugh sharing fasts with this mob.
Better get to bed to prepare for a busy fast day tomorrow.
g’night all
PVE (giggle, giggle)

Precisely Elaine.
Michael M talked about this.
Tow of our grandmothers, who had lived through WW1 and 2 and the Depression lived to 97. They cooked all their own food, what was in season. They both cooked deserts. And one drank alcohol. They were also very active. Walking miles.
I find on this WOE I am increasingly searching back to the older recipes. The simple, but flavoursome home made ones.
We have indeed come full circle. And noone’s making a buck out of it (except book sales!)
PVwo

Would any of us feel it is acceptable to say to a neighbour “you’ve put on too much weight”. I was really embarrassed just now when my lovely, but extremely overweight, neighbour said to me “you’ve lost too much weight”, I was really lost for words because I didn’t want to draw attention to her obesity with a reply, so I mumbled something about only having lost a little bit, and she immediately came back with but you didn’t have any to lose in the first place! Perhaps I should feel flattered but somehow I don’t:…

Well when obese is the new normal, I’m afraid you will look painfully thin and insubstantial by comparison…!

It’s an interesting point about the acceptability of commenting on weight loss. As you say, totally unacceptable the other way round.

I have also been told not to lose anymore weight and have been asked, now I’ve lost weight, if I’m going to start eating normally again!

Hi Auriga

I’m not normally on this thread as I haven’t reached your heady heights of maintenance. But I’ve just read the above thread and I wanted to congratulate you on your disappearing asthma!

That is incredible and a huge vote of confidence for the FAST DIET – WEIGH TO GO! as we say on the LOACA thread.

BooBooxx

Elainefriend, envy will cause people to do and say some strange things… and she probably isn’t even aware that she envies you, sad to say.

Auriga, good luck at your appointment — at least they should be impressed that your asthma has disappeared with your fasting and weight loss! But watch out for that envy factor — if the nurse is still huge, she will probably love to find fault with whatever you did to lose the weight.

I hate to say it, but it’s true. People really feel so hopeless about their weight that they’re not even trying any more and can’t believe that they could share in our success. At least that’s been my experience with most people around here. Most of the people who’ve shown any interest in how I achieved my weight loss have been normal-weight health practitioners. Now, when I was overweight, if I knew someone who lost 40 pounds and looked great, I would have been dying to find out how they did it so that I could do it, too! But I’ve found that people with that attitude are few and far between. A couple of friends were inspired by my weight loss to lose some weight themselves, each in their own way. Most people in this part of the States seem to think that fasting is crazy, extreme, or just not do-able. It’s really weird. The only people I know doing IF are online here. If I wasn’t a knowledgeable person with a strong personality people around here would probably be trying to tell me that fasting is unhealthy.

Auriga:

Congratulations!

I am interested in the disappearance of your asthma.

Did you also change your diet in any way with 5:2 – eat more of this, less of that?

Franfit there’s a Facebook group called “5:2 Fasting (in America)” that is adding people every day. If you’re wanting in on conversations with people in the States you should look that group up and join. Just today I saw postings from 3 new people who are embarking on their first fast. One poor lady said she has to lose 200 lbs, I really hope she can stick with this as that must be horrible. We have another lady who’s lost over 100 lbs since May 2013 on 5:2. Good stuff…

Dave

(and no I wasn’t frightened off from here, although its hard to relate to all the boob talk as only a consumer and not a provider 🙂 )

PVE, no worries, there’s room enough in both places!

Morning all,

Didn’t get a chance to catch up last night as was too busy, then too tired.

Great news on the asthma Auriga. I’ve been a (mild) sufferer since my 20s, but did have some bad attacks at university, so know what it’s like. I also have allergic rhinitis (hay fever, but dust etc will also set it off), but not sensitized at all so far this year.

Hi Dave, glad your back! Men can be both pancake consumers and providers you know?! And I’m sure there must be some moobs amongst the 5:2ers….

Anyway, have decided not to do a 6:1 this week but just stick with 16:8. Am 59.7 this morning, so hovering around 60 for last few days. Although I perceive that I could lose more fat from leg and bum area, evidence from clothes shopping is that I’m now in size 8 trousers, which is clearly not a fat size. And I don’t want to lose any more from my ribcage, (or I’ll be covering up again to hide the toastrack). I’ve always got 5:2/6:1 in reserve if/when I gain a bit!

Well.another day at work beckons. I do envy my retired maintenance buddies (esp those in Greece!), but remind myself that will be me one day. And hopefully maintaining a healthy weight with intermittent fasting will maximize my chances of a long, healthy and happy retirement.

Ha ha Elaine. Fascinating how different cultures treat body shape, isn’t it?
Happy, your size 8 sounds wonderful and think of Audry Hepburn and her lovely flat chest! Talking of which, I am going to a fancy dress, so dug out an old suit (tight fitting) and it is too loose! That’s the problem with fitted clothes, they have to fit! Have a happy day at work.
I sort of fell off the perch today…:( After the 24 hour run on Monday, I had decided I would only be really strict once a week, so after having homemade veg soup this morning, I had ONE SMALL CHICKEN SANDWICH with friends when I was out and will just eat the rest of the cauliflower rice and veg tonight. But I have walked, very fast, 7 1/2 km according to FITbit and burned 1300 cal, so not all is lost and I am a happy bunny.
Off walking to meet the fella at the station.
Signing off,
PVE 😉

Dear Augira, I bet FranFit knows the answer. But if as you say, your Asthma is way improve, that’s a big battle won. Good luck with figuring out the perimeters of the bloods, you’d think a nurse would know!

Dear Auriga, Sorry I’ve been making typos on your name every time I post, like you I’m not very nimble typing on my Iphone. I will have a look at that site. Glad you’re feeling less worried about the blood results. My posts won’t be quite so frequent as I have family staying with me for the next nine days. I will still keep in touch though. Have a lovely evening:-)