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Morning Sylvia!
How are you today?
Thanks for the reassurance.
I have a background in science, and like to understand things. Unfortunately I don’t know enough about human physiology to make sense of my data!
Each time I have done a 6:1 (since stopping 5:2) I have lost at least 1lb. I just don’t understand how it happens though so it worries me!
Re: eating more. I have got half a chocolate pecan pie in the freezer. Trouble is, it won’t be 7000 calories and I’ll feel really sick before I’m even quarter way through it…! Oh well…
Anyway, this appears to confirm what I found previously (I can’t maintain on 16:8 and 6:1). I can do 16:8 and the odd longer fast (20 hours plus) and not lose more weight though. So I guess that’s the future for me!
PVE.
Re: Elaine’s preparations for our Greek sojourn… I fear Elaine may have come over all weak again at the thought! She will probably need a lie down, either in bed with a coffee or on the beach in stylish new swimwear!
My recent ‘cold’ didn’t progress as I would have expected previously and seemed quite mild and short lived. Fingers crossed your super enhanced immune system shakes yours off!
Love the idea of a MC “conference”… Also it’s a bit of an idea for a follow up to Dr M’s original programme… that with an update on the science developments / findings…
Ha ha re image of an Highlander… mmmm well hate to spoil your image there.. but am really from Englandshire and drifted North.. at one point there were bets on how far North I would go.. but seem to have settled in Easter Ross..
I also count my hill running as HIIT.. I think the key is really pushing yourself to get really out of breath.. and then once there to ramp it down but keep going.. am finding that when I started to ramp it down and recover I needed to walk.. but now I can just slow to a jog of small steps but keeping the tempo almost the same.. Also my muscle recovery is vastly better.. from aching the next day to not at all now.
Re the Vit D.. I really noticed a difference as in winter we have very very little light / short days and the Vit D really really helps with the SAD thing.. I read somewhere that anyone north of Watford should routinely up their intake of Vit D.. PVE it’s really interesting that you are being advised to supplement with Vit D despite living somewhere so gloriously sunny..
Hi iwb12
Ah the Highlands. .love ’em. They’re in my blood!
A friend is part of a dementia study and the results indicated advantages in Vit D. I hadn’t realised I was low but took it as insurance. My recent blood tests showed a marked improvement to normal. As one of Scottish heritage I am very prone to skin cancer so have always covered up. Anglo Celts living in Aust have the highest skin cancer rate in the world 🙁 P
Well, you’ve either all been abducted by aliens or are just bobbing along, happily maintaining, with nothing to report….
So after the shock of dropping 1kg after a 6:1, I’ve worked hard to eat plenty over the last two days… I haven’t denied my hunger, have even eaten chocolate, and am now well into a bottle of wine! Tomorrow is my official weigh in, and 3 days from fast so should be a true weight.
I’ve had an update from Dad. He thinks he may have plateaud (it’s been one week!). We discussed food on a fast day. I’ve suggested that the wine and cheesecake might be hindering weight loss… He says it’s only a small slice of cheesecake… I know (because I gave him the recipe) that it’s a small slice of ginger biscuits with butter, topped with cream cheese, double cream, condensed milk and lime. Where’s the harm in that…?!
Ha! Greetings Extra Terrestrial! We already knew you were from outer space…
Well I must say it is a fine, and easy, cheesecake recipe… which is why I introduced my Dad to it!
He’s a widower, but was already a capable cook, and just needs a bit of reassurance/confidence to introduce new recipes to his repertoire. He now merrily makes cheesecake and freezes ‘individual’ portions. Mum would have known about the calories, but he’s a real novice…
He’s lost over a stone on 5:2 so far and feels better. He’s not normal BMI yet (27 from 29). But if he only ever maintained this he’d still be 1 stone lighter, and healthier for it…
Anyway, he wants to lose another half stone. He says he’s eaten the cheesecake from the freezer so, as long as he doesn’t make more, maybe he can break through that plateau!
Hi Auriga
I love that John Denver song. Hope your move goes smoothly. I have indeed been abducted by aliens and this is my last post for some time. I have had a warning about too much close work being bad for my eyes. Last time this happened I was 12 yo. And was being warned off reading too much and sewing and knitting. I need to go play golf and do a lot of outdoors stuff to counteract the loss of long sight.
I just wanted to say thank you for making me laugh, and for making maintenance easier than I thought. For the heck of it, I did 4:3 this week and shook off that last kg that was my goal. For two days now I have sat at 60 kg neat, so I proudly claim the weight. I have reached my goal. 🙂 I have control over my eating. We ate Thai food last night and I didn’t have any rice. Had a lager 🙂 came home for some mango sorbet.
Since 25 January 2014 I have lost a total of 17 kg (= 37 lb) and 19 cm off my waist. Looking forward to having a figure this coming Summer. 🙂 🙂
Look after your alien selves. See you in a while. Bay 🙂
Sorry Bay has had to leave us, temporarily I hope. Great news on reaching her goal and joining the 60 and under club. In honour, and because I also love Thai food!, I am cooking chicken green curry this evening.
My weight this morning was unchanged so, for me at least, 6:1 is the new 5:2! Went out today in my new size 8 skirt. Very odd. I kept thinking perhaps I should have bought size 10, but then realized it was only because I was aware of it at my waist (and not hanging off hips)!
I am now finding that I bang my hip bones a lot. I used to regularly just push things with my hips (shopping trolleys etc) but need to stop that as it hurts!
Also have been trying to rub my thighs together when I walk, but can’t! Sore sweaty thighs used to be a feature of hot summers. No more!
Elaine. Re: PVE cooking, me gardening. I’m up for it! Outside is my favourite place to be. So I’ll be more than happy to grow the veg. Although I hope you also like flowers and wildlife. I should warn you that, despite my tender years (!), I am very traditional and cottage garden is my style. Is there a Greek equivalent?
Hi Auriga,
Well I think a quiet maintenance thread speaks volumes for successful maintenance!
Since you began this thread at the end of May, it’s notable that there have been no crises or drama, no weight gain to report. Everyone has found what suits and has been happily maintaining.
I have always thought anyway that this thread tends to be quieter at weekends than during the week. I’ve got more time, but the retirees have got less!
Auriga,
Love the description of your garden. So exotic. I can’t really imagine it!
When choosing plants for my garden, being hardy to -16 is a fairly standard requirement! Last year I think -8 was our lowest, and not prolonged, but it can be significantly colder.
The thought of citrus from my own garden….! I know when we’ve holidayed in Greece, the fresh orange is a million miles from what you get in the UK.
Which reminds me, our tomatoes have started ripening. I only buy vine-ripened anyway, but really, there’s no comparison. For anyone that has only ever even eaten supermarket tomatoes… you don’t really know what a tomato tastes like!
Hello Everyone .
At the moment i am struggling to keep up with everything.
This is what PTSD does to you ( it F###### Awful ) Sorry . But it really does get to me sometimes , Bloody Active service grrrr
Anyway , as i am opening my heart to all you nice people , I can also tell you that there is no cure for PTSD as sufferd by thousands of ex service personnel , all we can do is learn to “COPE” with it. So that is what i do
Please dont think badly of me . I am a genuine 5:2 er
And i will continue to read all your fantastic comments and stories
At the moment i just cant cope with posting , I hope you all understand
I will try and keep up with the other thread as well but i wont be posting much on there too ( My progress exciting thread)
I think you are all a truly fantastic bunch of Ladies, and I know you will be here for me at anytime
If any of you do wish to contact me on a personell level i would love to hear from you
No phone number this time lol
but you can send me a freind request on Facebook to Kenneth Livesey
Love you all xxx
Ken
Hi Ken,
No.one judges you here. And you have nothing to apologise for. You post when you want to, and not because you think we expect it.
I’m sorry you’re suffering at the moment. I can’t even begin to imagine… and I do have quite an active imagination!
I hope, if you are reading the thread, that we are able to divert/distract/amuse/frustrate you for a while at least!
Fingers crossed you’ll be fully back with us soon. Good work on maintaining, despite being in a dark place.
Oh wow.. what a lot to keep up with..
Ken .. my thoughts are with you.. and I hope suceed in banishing the demons and am super impressed you have maintained despite the demons.
Bayleaf .. Take care of your eyesight..
Happy.. yummy sun ripened home grown tomatoes..
Had a lovely rather indulgent weekend.. and looking forward to my fast tomorrow ..Monday.. It always makes me feel renewed.
Take care everyone.
Thanks for the wishes, Sylvia. I did drop off for a few hours. Fasting today, so hopefully the cold will be shaken off.
Despite an indulgent weekend….lots of socialising, but also lots of long walks along the beaches in the sun, I still weighed 58.6 this morning. Had a late breakfast and lunch yesterday (no refined carbs, just wonderfully tasty veg and protein, but plenty of wine) Had blue cheese and gf biscuits and a glass of red when we arrived home instead of dinner. I NEED the fast today!
I have referred a new poster to this thread. Might be good for Happy to explain your eating regime. I made a botch of it:( Sleep well my UK mates, and Happy Monday Elaine and Bay (in abscentia) P
Great that this thread features tales of overindulgent weekends as part of weight maintenance. You can have your cake and eat it, just not necessarily every day and/or such big slices as previously!
Talking of cake, I’ve been looking at paleo diet recipes. They avoid wheat flour, using almond flour, chestnut flour etc. And.also no refined sugar, things like raw honey instead. Suddenly sugar and plain flour don’t seem very appealing! It will be interesting to see if they are similarly addictive/moreish, despite the undefined ingredients? I guess at least they will be healthier!
Well Auriga, if I’m not mistaken, this is the big week?! It will be a relief to finish packing, get moved in….and then start unpacking!
Hi PVE. Re explaining 16:8, I’ll be happy to, but it got me thinking.
Re: maintenance regimes.
Some people maintain on 6:1, some on 5:2, some with 16:8 eating. From reading the LOACA thread, Boo suggests that most LOACAs have to do more than 6:1 just to maintain.
Re: weight loss.
A lot of people on the forum are not actually doing 5:2 by the book in the first place.
I know the 5:2 overseers will be collating all the data they can from these threads (the tracker is for data capture, so will be as much for them as for us!).
It will be interesting to see break downs by gender and age (and maybe also by how overweight people are/ medical conditions etc).
Can the difference in effort required for women really all come down to pre and post menopause?
Hi Sylvia
All the best with the move. It will all be over soon (like childbirth) and remember my motto…once you are out of the old one and the boxes have been dropped off at the new, the job’s done! You don’t have to unpack until you need to find something 😉 You can do that anytime, or never! All the best, mate.
Hey Happy
I agree re women and hormones. It still does all come down to calories in, calories out. If we slow down as we age, so does our need for the extra kilojoules. Also, as you say, there seem to be a lot of people who have not read the books/seen the doco/ understood the simplicity of this WOE. It must work to reduce to your ideal healthy weight if you eat less than your body requires and it certainly seems to be a healthy long term WOL giving your body a good rest to heal least once or twice a week.
I’ve got a big month ahead, with a series of house guests. Have spent today washing and buying in preparation. Also getting eyes checked as I had another retina scare in the weekend- I think Bayleaf jinxed me 🙁 If I drop off the thread, it might be too much on my plate (not food), lack of private time or my eyes. I will try to read this thread, but mightn’t get to answer.
Elaine,Iwillbe, Ken, Tim and, hopefully JIP again soon, and all those I have left off, will have to do the heavy lifting with you.
Less than minimal fast almost over…hey, it’s b****y freezing here today, had to have some soup at 2. Cheers all, P
Auri, we are pigeon pairs (also 63 and 64). It does take a concerted effort, but as we know, well worth it. There are stats on how fast metabolisms operate at different ages, but it simply means, as you say, we need a lot less food as we age. Learning how much we had overeaten for years was probably the biggest revelation, along with learning that we are capable of going all day without food.
Life changing stuff! P
Hi yes fine up here.. bit breezy now but sunny again.. had a fair amount of rain overnight but it had stopped by 11 this morning.. so apart from feeling rather autumnal yes am safe and sound.. (also living half way up a mountain means we are ummm well drained. I think other bits of Scotland got it worse than us.. Elgin as usual flooded.. To be honest I’ve seen worse… I remember one particularly big storm.. I could here this odd clanking sound comming from the burn.. on closer inspection it was boulders (big boulders) being thrown around….. and on some occassions the wind has sounded like a Banshee .. really screaming .. which it wasn’t last night..
So most of the way through my fast today.. not eaten anything since last night.. and went for a lovely run at lunchtime.. sound of running water, wind in the trees, dashing clouds and bright sunshine. Got further than last week.. so feeling generally chuffed and that all is well..
Auriga hope your move goes as smoothly as possible.. it’s always stressful and is really one of those life events..
PVE .. all the best for your preparations and hope the retina scare is only a scare..
take care everyone out there.
Auriga
Hi Auriga and PVE. Interesting to have your thoughts on weight loss. I know some older ladies who are convinced the menopause makes weight loss impossible, and many women who think it is automatically easier for men (at any age). I.guess if you are successful there is always someone to say ah well, it’s easier for you because….
Anyway, weight today steady 1kg under where I was pre last week’s fast. Been feeling out of sorts today and decided on a slice of chocolate pecan pie from the freezer. It was a sickly sugary slice of pie that left me feeling queasy and bloated. I didn’t enjoy it but ate it! That’s how grumpy I was. Suffice it to say it did not improve my mood!
Anyway, hope you are all OK. I will be back tomorrow when normal sunny service will be resumed.
Hi there Maintenance Buddies
I decided to give myself a treat and read the thread twice a week. Great to see the big move is here, Auriga. May you go well. 🙂
Purple, I hope the retina is ok. 🙂 Bay
From experimenting I know that I have to continue with 5:2 for life. I totally support you in saying that Michael Mosleys book must be read to understand what 5:2 is trying to achieve. I like my fast days and look forward to them.
The only two ways that I can continue to lose weight are either to go for 4:3 or to ban all sugars, starches, alcohol and processed food from all days in the week. I prefer 4:3 and have easily given away processed food and wheat.
Your friend in absentia, Bay 🙂
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