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  • Hi P,

    Well I’m hoping for a sugar-free today, first day since the 23rd! I sent most of the Xmas cake home with the guests, and I’ve covered the remainder so I don’t have to look at it. It’s brandy-sozzled, so doesn’t need eating up in a hurry anyway…

    And yes, although not all of the cats like turkey, I reckon our ginger tabby has probably eaten as much of it as I have! I keep telling him this is a once a year treat only, and he’s not to get used to it… I suspect however that he’s either not listening or I’ve overestimated his grasp of the English language πŸ™‚

    I’ve also hit my trigger point, so will be fasting at some point this week. I’m determined to start 2016 in my maintenance range.

    Back on home soil and only 1 kg heavier, which can’t be bad. Hopefully it will disappear in the next week or two (or with my luck and weird metabolism before next Christmas). The old bod went into automatic dinner-only mode after eating cake on our first full day and feeling as sick as a pig. Dinner consisted of packet soup and a slice of toast.

    Holland was lovely. Great people, beautiful architecture, excellent driving behaviour, which unfortunately means Him Indoors only has me to shout at. Have no fear. I shout right back. One complaint about things Dutch, though. What museums tell you on their website about opening hours doesn’t always reflect reality. One closed an hour earlier than stipulated so we missed it – after an unpleasant exchange of views with probably the ONLY nasty woman in the whole of the Netherlands who was behind the desk. Another, devoted to the Dutch contingent of the Pilgrim Fathers which I really wanted to see, didn’t open at all.

    This carry-on was more than compensated by the wonderful Indonesian restaurant where we spent our last evening before leaving for home. It being Christmas, they were only offering their set festive menu. I mentioned to the charming (and very dishy) waiter about my shellfish problems and he duly informed the kitchen, where they very kindly made a few tweaks and even a couple of replacements so that I didn’t have to deal with any unwelcome critters.

    Got home to find some bugger had managed to get hold of my debit card details and apparently bet it on the geegees. Hint for anyone banking with NatWest. Go to their Web Chat page – as far as I can see it’s not accessible via the bank’s home page, but you can get straight to it via Google. They are very helpful and efficient. I shall have my money back by 10 a.m. tomorrow.

    So glad everyon’s had a good time, and stayed reasonably sylph-like. It can be done. I’m now 3/4 of the way up my wriggle-range (ie 3lbs heavier) and determined not to let it stick, so shall do a serious 4:3 this week and try to sort it fast (pun intended)

    We ate three Christmas dinners, in 3 different combinations of company, over 3 days.
    Thoroughly enjoyable, but my big mistake was the trifle. I normally consider trifle an abomination, but came across a grown up one suggested by St Nigel (Slater) and having made it for the first gathering, (which I hosted,) then made more to contribute to both the others, (which I didn’t). It consists of sponge, Baileys Irish Cream, coffe, mascarpone, double cream, toasted hazelnuts and chocolate: it is indescribably good and as calorific as anything you have ever eaten; I have eaten 4 bowlsful in 3 days (apart from the scrapings while making) and frankly wouldn’t care now if I never looked it in the face again. Hence the 3lbs and the lack of worrying about it: I. Know exactly where it came from, and it wasn’t the beef, the turkey, the gammon or the veg!!

    A reflection on what very over-privileged people we are: had a text this morning from a friend who was going to cook our last festive dinner on Weds, to say she has a dreadful infection and needs to postpone indefinitely. Very concerned about her – she finished chemo treatment not too long ago – but both DH and I actually relieved at not having to eat another big, delicious dinner. Bit sad, that!

    Love and best wishes to all for an abstemious rest of this week (how did those Tudors feast for 12 days straight?) and a happy, healthy, slim new year.

    Hermaj – sorry about you debit card problem. It may not be someone physically entering your home, but – quite apart from the money – it a must feel just as intrusive. Glad the bank are doing the decent thing, but it must be horrible. Thinking of you……

    Lovely to hear all the similar Christmas experiences (except, of course, for your plastic theft, Herm πŸ˜•).
    I think we can all be proud of how aware we are. Have fun, but stay in control.
    I had several conversations with ladies staying in the same hotel over Christmas. There approach, and they are both slim, had the same wary approachwe use. We were all being fed too much, and picking and choosing which to eat. Others, sadly obese, kept heading back for more. It is not hard to see why they are so overweight. It was also interesting to note who walked the stairs and who caught the lift! P

    Hi Purple and all

    Happy New year aka Hogmanay. πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸ·πŸ·πŸ·

    Glad you had your white Christmas. We are in Shepparton Victoria where it was 38 C at 7 pm tonight. I just kept remembering what it was like to travel in this sort of heat (100F) when we were kids. Wet towels around our necks with Windows wide open as we drove along.

    Cheers, Bay

    Hi Bay and all,

    It’s not yet 2016 here yet, but Happy New Year to those of you ahead of me!

    I don’t envy you your 38 C. It was only 5 C here today though and forecast cooler for the next few days. Somewhere in between would suit!

    I must admit that, despite best intentions, I haven’t done a 500 cal fast this week. I’ve had one 24 hour fast with a light meal…and two glasses of wine (whoops πŸ™‚ ). And one 24 hour fast (today) to be followed by homemade curry, dhal and flatbread (oh, and a few glasses of wine πŸ™‚ ). This morning I was 60.2, so it seems unlikely that I’ll be strictly in my maintenance range tomorrow. I can’t get very worked up about 200g though!

    Belated Happy New Year (Hogmanay) Maintainers.
    Still travelling, still within wriggle room, still trying any strange food or drink I can find. 😊
    I made venison burgers for us last night. Delicious! Interestingly, Mr P finds if he eats Cullen Sink, fish soup, his blood sugar responds very well. The things you learn from travel!
    Back to the heat next week. 😦 P

    Happy new year everyone! Still in holiday mode here so only checking in intermittently. Pleased to hear everyone is doing well in spite of the temptations!

    Hi fellow fasters

    I take it as a good sign that posting on here has become intermittent. We have celebrated well through the festive season with friends and family, and then we travelled for a while.

    Confession time. I fasted yesterday for the first time since 1 December. It was a black coffee and water day until fish and salad for dinner. The fast was a huge success and a great motivator for continuing with two fasts a week through Summer.

    I spent the day washing floors and up and down the ladder picking apricots and cooking them. Around 12 kg so far, for freezing and giving some away. This year I netted the trees a week earlier and the cockies were hugely frustrated, giving vent to screeches all over the neighbourhood. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

    While indulging in sugar and floury foodstuffs through the festive season, I had put on 2 kg. I am aiming to lose that by 25 January which is my second anniversary on 5:2. Easy come easy go, I say.

    Hope you’re all going well

    Cheers, Bay 🌞🌞

    Happy

    I love the heat, although 38 C is too hot to do things. What I can’t cope with are short days and no sunshine. Next week we are having all our days over 30C and we cope because we cool down every evening, sometimes we cool down to 8 C and that means sleeping is easy.
    Hope all is well with you and the chooks. πŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒ

    Cheers, Bay

    Hi Bay,

    Good to hear from you!

    I think I’m sinking into depression…the constant rain…the near permanent twilight…the short days… Although the evenings are drawing out now – 16.30 now!! And we’re forecast a cold snap next week. Great, that’ll make a change, frozen water πŸ™‚

    I’ve just completed my second fast of 2016, as I gained a bit over the festive period too. Like you though I’m pretty relaxed about it. When I slip over 60kg now I just convert to imperial. Hey presto, under 9st7 sounds better than over 60kg πŸ™‚

    Did you really not leave ANY apricots for the cockies…?!

    Hi Happy

    Just a few apricots that they could peck through the net. I lost about 1 kg of fruit to the possum who ripped the net and ate half of each ripe fruit in one part of the tree. So picky! They must all have such an acute sense of smell.

    I looked back over my two years on 5:2, and the lightest weight and smallest waist I’ve sustained was for the year July 2014 to July 2015. Since then, I have gradually meandered up the scale and widened around the middle. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰ So now a serious assault on both waist and weight with strict 5:2 and minimal carbs. I eat lots of vegetables and don’t count vegetables in my carbs, except for the starchy ones.

    For Christmas we gave each other Fitbit Charge HR. I love my plum coloured one and it urges me on to 20,000 steps a day. Call me shallow, but it plays mind games with me, and I respond by walking more. It has also meant that I sleep better.

    Cheers, Bay ⛳️⛳️

    Happy, Sending you lots of sunshine. πŸŒžπŸŒžπŸŒžπŸŒžβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈ Bay

    Hi ladies,
    Like you Happy I am fed up with the rain and dark, BUT glad to report after a wonderful holiday back in November which ran into December, which once I was in my stride ran into Christmas and New Year,- I have only put on 2 lb. I did manage a number of part fasts in December, and tried to eat mindfully most of the time.
    I have started in ernest again this week and have had two good fast days -it’s a great feeling to get back to the discipline of fasting.
    You ladies may remember, back in November we had a burglary, and you kindly steered me away from the bread bin. -Well I won’t dwell on the horrors of it, but the positive is our insurance company have been great -I can’t fault them. Instead of replacing all of my bits, I decided to have one corker of a ring, so I am now looking forward to the delivery of a bit of sparkle I didn’t imagine I would ever own ! Please don’t get me wrong I would pay anything to get my own bits and pieces back, but that’s not going to happen, – so this cloud has a platinum and diamond lining 😊😊😊 Goosey x

    I like your thinking Goosey! I did a similar thing myself a few years back. A dear friend was burgled and lost all her beautiful jewellery so converted her insurance payout into 1 or 2 good pieces she wore all the time. Smart lady I thought to myself. And then I heard the story of someone else who’d been burgled and burglars found a very precious watch hidden in a packet of laundry powder. When I heard that story I thought I’m crazy having all these bits and pieces of jewellery around and so had all my significant rings (engagement, eternity) remodelled to include all the stones from my other rings. I wear these every day. Reduces the risk.

    Bay where do you live? We’re inadelaide and have been having really hot weather but doesn’t cool down at night. One night it was 24 degrees overnight. That’s what does my head in. If you can sleep at night it’s not so bad.

    Happy I know what you mean about the short days. We lived I southern England for a while and what I couldn’t cope with was finishing work at 4.30pm and when I came out it was already dusk!

    Sounds as though everyone is doing very well with maintenance. I’m also doing OK, getting back below trigger point very quickly and fairly painlessly! Love it!

    Well yesterday’s fast, the second of 2016, did the trick. Very happy to report that I’ve reverted from imperial to metric today. 59kg this morning πŸ™‚ I think this calls for another slice of Christmas cake…!

    I’m liking the thinking on one good piece of jewellery, and I think you can rightly look forward to it Goosey after the trauma of the burglary and your losses.

    I have things I wear every day, but only one truly expensive piece of jewellery. But that one piece had me from the moment I tried it on. That was 15 years ago mow, but I shan’t mind if OH never buys me another piece of jewellery.

    Hello all, happy new year, and may all your maintenance be successful. I can report 3lbs gained, 2.5 lost – but since I’d given myself extra wriggle room before Christmas, I’m now smack in the middle of maintenance range, so a happy bunny. Oddly, though, having worked hard pre Christmas to make that happen, I’ve noticed in the last few days an ‘oh sod it, just eat it’ attitude, which I shall have to address if I’m not to reverse all the above!

    Like you, Happy, the constant murk , cloud cover and waking up in the dark are beginning to get to me – perhaps that explains the ‘oh, sod it’ – but not sure the promise// threat of possible snow next week helps a lot – I’m a wimp about icy underfoot. At least the slighter later dusk is now beginning to be noticeable – when it’s not dark just because it’s raining. Normally at this time of year the first snowdrops fill me with hope: this year there are daffodils already in bloom half a mile up the road, which confuses me somewhat. I hope you’ll be feeling better soon -SAD is just horrible.

    Love the prospect of your beautiful ring, Goosey – minute description required when you get it, please. I definitely agree that the safest place for lovely things is on their owner – as long as you don’t take it off to wash your hands! I have a beautiful gold and amethyst bracelet which was my grandmother’s – have hardly ever worn it in 58 years, as I’m terrified of losing it, and it also feels a bit ‘special’ for every day. But I’ve recently decided that (even assuming I may live to a ripe old age) there aren’t enough years left to keep things for ‘best’ so I’ve done the sensible thing and had a safety chain fitted, and now have the pleasure of wearing it – and remembering her – every day.
    I guess 5:2 has been partly responsible for my learning that lesson, as I have worked my way down the clothes sizes. The ‘everyday’ new stuff I’ve bought has had a reasonable amount of wear between re-fits, but I’ve given away some really nice things worn only very few times because my ‘best’ occasions came round more slowly than I lost weight. (Not that I’m complaining, you understand – just using it as a learning experience…)

    Keep fasting, gang: SH types, do it while it’s easy; NH ers, do it because Spring can’t be far behind..

    Hi Fast,

    I am also a wimp on ice, since falling flat on my back and cracking the back of my head squarely on a pavement a few years ago. I’m fine in the hills with winter boots and crampons, but not on roads and pavements with normal shoes.

    Have you come across spiky cleats? They’re like snow chains for your feet, and fit on any shoe.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Petzl-Spiky-Plus-Anti-slip-Over-Shoe/dp/B000YB8SDQ

    http://www.spiky.com

    Hi gang
    I danced around in snow falling softly from the skies yesterday. Pure magic! We didn’t even attempt to walk the streets of Glasgow, even though they were salted, early yesterday as there was a thick layer of ice everywhere.
    I had to replace my old trusty travel boots as I kept slipping on wet paving and cobblestones. Their grip had worn smooth. I have deep respect for walking on ice or mud. No way do I want to fall.
    Back to sunlight next week. 🌞 P

    A quick hello all round before I embark on a working weekend. Hopefully, I’ll be able to compensate with a midweek skive within the next week or so.

    Fast, I’m glad you’re a happy bunny but totally sympathise with the “oh, sod it” state of mind. My attitude precisely when I went for my annual eye test yesterday and had to choose new frames for my upgraded reading and computer glasses. I found the perfect pair but gulped a bit when I saw they were designed by Gucci. Whoops! I thought. But then I thought, sod it! I’ve had a relatively good year workwise, and anyway the Simply Health Cash Plan will pick up half the bill…

    I’ve already got shot of the Christmas flab, which only amounted to a kilo and am back to a strict 5:2 regime which I’ve now completed for this week. However, Hismaj happened to wander into Lidl where the post-Christmas sale included Stollen (a weakness you and I share, I think) at Β£1.19 a throw. He bought two. What is a girl to do? Apart from ignore them or at best get him to hide them after we’ve each had a slice. Or worst case, tuck in and have a couple of extra FDs over the next couple of weeks.

    Goosey, what a great idea to treat yourself to something lovely and luxurious with some of your insurance money. It set me thinking what I would do with a similar sum – which I imagine is quite generous. Possibly not jewellery. Having said that, there are only two things in the world I’m acquisitive about – books and earrings. I have at least 60 pairs, but my preference is for silver (even oru wedding rings are silver) and semi-precious stones, e.g. lapis lazuli, malachite, but above all amber, not always inexpensive but definitely not in the diamond league. I might just treat myself to a special pair or two.

    I think I would use most of the dosh to put towards a few intercontinental trips to the US and Down Under to visit Purple and other Aussie mates, with up-grades to 1st class or at least business class. So far, I’ve only ever flown cattle-class, which is fine and dandy within Europe and in the UK, e.g. Glasgow and back, but long haul isn’t brilliant if the flight is full.

    On my very first Transatlantic flight, London to Boston, I was seated next to a large lady, very pleasant and good-natured, but a) her very large bum took about a third of my seat and b) she had terminal halitosis. As a result, I crossed the Pond sitting at an angle of 45 degrees. Fortunately, we had booked aisle seats. The following day I had stomach pains, but it didn’t take too long to work out that these were not internal, but almost certainly muscular after flying tilted across the Atlantic. Even at my very fattest I always fitted neatly in an aircraft seat. My porkiness ran from back to front.

    Winter blues don’t bother me. I’m more likely to get depressed in summer when I find I’m not as upbeat as one is supposed to feel when the sun is shining. I can’t stand the heat, especially in London, find beaches boring and I’ve got the wrong sort of skin to tan comfortably.

    I’m with you all when it comes to ice. I’m dyspraxic enough to begin with without having to deal with ice underfoot. Happy, do the cleats really work? I got some slightly similar ones from Amazon a year or two ago and sent them straight back as they clearly weren’t going to do the job. The ones you have given a link for look much more promising.

    Purple, I’ve never been in Glasgow in the winter but I’ve often imagined it would be horrendous trying to walk up and down the steeply-sloping streets when they were iced over. When we lived in Zurich – also hilly in places – the city council cleared the streets of snow daily. They didn’t bother about the pavements, though. The thinking seems to have been to make sure that the Gnomes in their posh cars could swan around in comfort, while proles – like me – could break their necks for all they cared.

    Have a good weekend, ladies. and Bon Voyage, Purple and Mr P.

    Oh, the sheer wickedness of stollen-buying husbands…! Ours (stollen, not husband) is stashed in the freezer, along with the remains of the Christmas cake and ice cream, and I think I might have been saved from myself, in the form of a hulking great huge-appetited, triathlon-performing, much-loved nephew who has invited himself and his new fiancΓ©e to stay next weekend. That should sort it..

    The Gucci specs sound fantastic, hermaj: go for it! Interesting discussion starting here, I think, about individual variations on luxury of choice, and ‘how would I spend a windfall?’ fantasies . What are other people’s?

    For me, yes – with you: def books ( keep trying to tell bank manager that money spent on books isn’t real money) and yes, too, to silver earrings (never wear gold, except for Grandma’s bracelet, q v) – lost count of pairs. But not Amber, for me – black / white / grey / red / pink / purple is my preferred spectrum. I find eBay a useful source – one much-admired pair cost me 50p! – but if someone can be persuaded to lash out for birthdays and Christmas, I can think of nothing better than a sack full of earrings and book /kindle tokens!

    Other than that, small luxuries include expensive (therefore low sugar!) chocolate; proper coffee beans;a decent haircut (otherwise I tun into a Maggie T / Brillo pad lookalike); and I confess to regular shellac manicures – a real extravagance, which I justify because I can no longer cut my own nails, and you can’t ask a professional just to do that, now, can you? It goes without saying that I’d like to give children and grandchildren enough to get them started, but not enough to mean they wouldn’t need to work for it. First class train travel would be wonderful if money were no object, and there are so many places I’d love to see but probably never will – but on the whole I find as I get older that the big house / fast car sort of thoughts leave me cold. If I’m honest, the best fantasy of all would be simply knowing there was enough safely stowed to be able to live more or less as we do, with perhaps a few extra holidays /,theatre trips / etc thrown in, but nothing hugely luxurious, without ever having to think again about how much month might be left at the end of the money!

    There must be some more creative thinkers out there. Come on – entertain us with your longings…

    Hi Fast,

    OK, things on my wish list (after helping out family, paying off mortgage, etc!)… A borehole/ improved private water supply… Replace all the plastic windows with wooden sash windows… Buy some land and manage it for wildlife… OH would open an animal shelter… Perhaps a day at a spa once a month (me, not OH!)…

    Like you though, I’m happy with where I am and would just be happy to know that we can continue to live where, and as, we are.

    I’m sure I’d think of more to spend on if I won the lottery, but it wouldn’t be sports cars and yachts!

    Hermaj- to be honest I wouldn’t have bought jewellery if cash had been an option. The replacement value of my jewellery in any jewellery of my choice, was the option. It did feel VERY extravagant! 😳 I don’t think I could have done it otherwise.
    The thing was when faced with an identical engagement ring in the jewellers both OH and I got a lump in our throats, it wasn’t my ring it was never going to replace it, so we left, regrouped and decided on a totally new start. As we are now both grey ( well white really) we decided on a pair of matching platinum wedding rings and a diamond engagement ring, mine had been a ruby.
    Fast- Windfalls, a couple of years ago I had an unexpected inheritance, it sat in the bank being a burden for a while! Should I just nibble away at it, or as I would never have such a lump sum again, buy something big ? – I never felt I deserved it, and the person who left it to me had led a fairly frugal life.
    In the end we bought a static caravan in Northumberland for the use of all of the family, they pay the annual fee and we split the bills so it isn’t a an ongoing burden for us, win win. We all say we wish the person who left me the money had done it years ago she would have just loved it!
    Sorry, that turned into a ramble😊 Goosey x

    Brilliant, Goosey!! Mine would be a flat in Hay on Wye, so we could all spend unlimited time in the bookshops.

    And I had guessed the insurance company’s condition s : bo oth because they rarely just splash the cash, and because I couldn’t imagine that if they did,nous want to take it straight to a jeweller’s

    The best thing to come out of it is the realisation that you still want to commit to a pair of lovely new wedding rings. Congratulations!

    btw, Goosey, I was lucky enough to get an engagement ring and a posh new wedding ring on our 40th anniversary (too skint for the former, and had a very modest version of the latter, 40 years earlier). Both currently sitting in the safe as now (8 years later) so big on me that I can’t safely wear them! (One can be smallened easily, the other will have to be remodelled at vast cost. ) so currently alternating between no rings at all, new ones plus a smaller one in front to keep them on (actually very uncomfortable) and a plain silver ring which has nothing to do with anything, just happens to fit that finger, and cost Β£15!!! Talk about ‘full circle’!

    Fast,

    If you get that flat in Hay, I hope you get a spare room! There’ll be a queue of us wanting to visit Hay…sorry, you!

    First come, first served, Happy, and all very welcome – but since chances are either sub-minimal or fatter than all of us put together pre 5:2 (depending on how you like your metaphors) I wouldn’t waste valuable fantasy time on it! X

    Well, just so long as you bear it in mind…! We had a long weekend there a few years ago. My lasting memory is carrying armfuls of books round various stores before collapsing exhausted and happy in local hostelries…

    We fell in love with Hay in 1987, just before the first Festival, and have been every year since, for part or all, until a couple of years ago.i used to spend a chunk of my annual leave on it. Haven’t been to Festival for the last couple of years – it got too costly in terms of both money and energy – but I miss it dreadfully. We still try to go a couple of times a year in non- Fest times, when it’s quieter (and cheaper!) – it’s just about day-trip-able from here. I recommend the Blue Boar, and the sheep’s milk ice cream at Shepherd’s – but you won’t get inside the door of other in Festival week – another reason to go at other times! If ever I get my flat,( with patio or balcony big enough to sit and read, but not to require maintenance) you’ll be a welcome guest! And on reflection, the silver earrings can drop one place down the list…this is the one for the big win…

    Hi Hermaj
    Lovely reading your travel stories. Sorry about the debit card. i still haven’t begun learning Spanish which I think I asked about a year ago. Another thing for my todo list. 😏

    Carol
    I live in Canberra and most nights we have a cool breeze. Dry inland heat in the day. We are watering the garden. I’m not good in humid climates or in dark rainy days that go on and on. I would be depressed if I lived in such a climate. It was 34 C today and will be tomorrow and Tuesday. I think we drop to 16 C tonight.

    I’ve picked all the apricots except a few left for the parrots. About 25 kg in total. The nets are off the tree. Most apricots have been poached in a little water, and then frozen. I made a gluten free apricot cake for OH to have with cream. Yummy.

    I’m fasting tomorrow Monday. Back in the 5:2 groove of Monday’s and Thursday’s. Darn Autocorrect put in the apostrophes and I can’t be bothered retyping. 😬😬

    Cheers, all. Bay 😎😎

    Goosey, Sorry about the burglary. Good news re the jewellery.

    Fast, Happy, lovely stories about what to do with a windfall. Apart from helping our kids, and travelling in business class, I’m not sure what I would do. I feel very privileged to have the life we lead. We began with nothing, and by dint of sheer hard work and the good fortune of health, and the luck to be in this country at this time, we lead a very good life. We travel each year. I am grateful for our good fortune.

    When I tell the grandkids that we began life without a washing machine or refrigerator or telephone or television, they cannot believe it. They know we poor things didn’t have computers or mobile phones, but that we lived in a tiny house half the size of theirs, and with no mod cons is hard for them to believe.

    Cheers, Bay β˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈπŸŒžπŸŒžπŸŒžπŸŒžπŸŒž

    Hermaj,

    The spikys do work on flat slippery surfaces, giving you more purchase than a normal shoe. So good for pavements and patios. I’ve got the petzl ones, not needed them for a couple of winters, but they might be making an appearance this week if the forecast is correct.

    Bay, I’m pleased you’ve turned out so well-adjusted…considering the deprivations of your early life!

    Haha, Happy

    Sorry but I am really grateful for the good fortune of genes and health and good luck, and the upbringing that taught me that nothing is given to you in this life. You make your life and your future. I spent the better part of the 70s growing our own fruit and vegetables, making our own bread, yogurt, making kids clothes, and generally trying to live sugar free. It seems to me it was all easier when we were younger. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰.

    So, I don’t tell the kids how grateful they should be. I just give thanks. Do I sound smug? I feel the opposite. Very fortunate to have my family and friends. After all, they put up with a lot. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰.

    Another very hot day here. I shall be fed up with the heat by the end of the week. 😎😎😎. At night we are having a Sherlock fest. Christmas present of all three series.

    Cheers, Bay πŸŒžπŸŒžπŸŒžπŸŒžβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈβ˜€οΈ For you Happy.

    RIP David Bowie. Part of our collective youth gone.Back during his androgynous period I had a lovely female colleague who was proud of the fact that her kids boasted that their mum looked like Bowie, which she most definitely did.

    Thanks for the info about the spikys, Happy. I’ll give them serious thought. Sod’s law, though. I’ll buy some and then not use them for the next five years.

    Bay, I’m with you on gratitude for good genes, good health and good luck. I do envy your ability and skill at making stuff yourself, though. I’m pretty good on the cooking front, but never having had a garden since I left the parental home – couldn’t do that fast enough – I’ve never grown fruit or veg, and any kid would look better wearing a bin-liner than anything made by me.

    And I never, ever tell kids how grateful they should be. Some people make it sound like it’s the kids’ own fault that they didn’t have to experience the gizmo-free world in which we grew up.

    Hermaj,

    I grew up listening to ’70s David Bowie, courtesy of an older brother, and saw him live in the ’80s. A sad day indeed, but a life well lived!

    The local news last night featured tributes from a few fans. One middle-aged lady, a bit portly and with a moon face, explained that she’d loved him to the extent that she’d even shaved her eyebrows when he did…only hers had never grown back! Ah, that explains the slightly surprised expression…. I couldn’t help but laugh πŸ™‚

    I remember suddenly feeling old when George Harrison died. Now the rock stars, who were only a couple of years older than me, are dropping off like flies. I don’t subscribe to the “hope I die before I get old” idea. 😯 P

    Neither do I, Purple. I’m growing old disgracefully and hoping to get worse. πŸ™‚

    I’m sure your earlier years were not filled with sex, drugs and r & r, P?

    Agree Purple but think hermaj has worked it out – not at risk because we’re just more clean living lol!

    Doing a good job there Herm!
    Never done drugs, Barata. As for the other two… P πŸ˜€

    Barata – ‘fraid I ticked all the above boxes at one stage or another. Nothing heavy or permanently damaging though. πŸ™‚

    I’m convinced a misspent youth makes it difficult for one to morph into an oldie of the traditional kind. A bad attitude can keep you young, although I know from experience it can get you into all sorts of trouble. The “mustn’t grumble” philosophy doesn’t hack it.

    I saw a women of 104 interviewed on a TV documentary. She was still right on the ball and writing a weekly column for a left-leaning magazine, which she dictated to a young man who word-processed it for her. Asked what kept her going and had enabled her to live to a ripe old age, she replied “Anger!” In the same programme viewers were introduced to a friend of hers who made it to 107. Also politically active, only months before her death she received a standing ovation after delivering a powerful speech to that year’s Labour Party Conference.

    It’s difficult to believe too many of these ladies misbehaved. I may be wrong, though.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26654759

    This image, by the way, is a false media perception of women over 55!!! Maybe it would have applied back in the 1940 and 50s. See how 40- or 50-something mums are portrayed in the films of the period. The Beeb and other offenders should take a look at some of the absolute stunners on this forum, still in there pitching and looking terrific, partly due to their/our healthy lifestyle, no doubt.

    Morning all, Happy New Year, how’s everyone on the MC today? Having a good chuckle reading the current page of posts. We’re back home now and I haven’t fasted since I sought your advice from Spain. Sounds like a confession.

    Sunday is one of my traditional FDs so last night I defrosted some fast day fare in readiness. I arrived home 800gms lighter than when I left and have woken today still under 60kgs. I understand now what some of you were saying before Christmas about it being hard to motivate yourselves to fast when your weight is good. I don’t want to lose any more weight but I know how easy it would be for the weight to slip back on when I’m not looking. We did a lot of hilly walking on our trip and that made a huge difference. It can’t take long for the relative inactivity of a daily 5km walk on flat ground to catch up with me.

    Having been such a rigid adherent to twice weekly fasting, I feel a bit guilty even considering not fasting today. So I’m having my almond milk coffee just in case. Partial fast maybe….

    Indecisive in Perth.

    Brilliant result thin! As you say a partial fast might be a good compromise for today. I found when I got back from holidays and not doing as much walking the weight piled on fairly quickly so we need to remain vigilante.

    I’m off to Brisbane today to babysit the grandkids for two weeks and will be doing lots of hilly walking so not anticipating problems!

    Thanks Carol, good sound advice. Have fun in Brisbane and enjoy the grandies. How old are they?

    They’re young enough to wear me out Thin! Seven and a half and almost 4.

    Hi Thin

    Congratulations on a wonderful result from your trip. You have been incredibly disciplined over the six weeks. You should feel very proud of yourself. πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰

    OTOH I have found that as soon as I get complacent, I put on weight. I am fasting today and will be doing ADF this week. I want to reinstate regular fasting as my healthy habit.

    Good luck with whatever works for you. I will be watching with interest and lots of support.

    Cheers, Bay πŸ™‚

    Have fun Carol.

    Hi Bay and thanks! I don’t feel I can really claim much credit for self-discipline although I noted that I do now think about whether it’s worth it instead of shovelling food in and instantly regretting it. The main reason for the slight loss was the huge increase in activity. Our next trip won’t be so active so it’ll be a better test of my self-discipline. The anxiety and whinging about that will begin soon. Stand by.

    Anyway, 3pm and the fast is going OK today. I felt I needed to do it just to remain vigilant as you and Carol have both indicated. If I could get away with one a week, that’d be a bonus. Thanks for being there.

    Hi everyone,

    Good to see the thread back in business. It had gone worryingly quiet. Isn’t it wonderful when, like thinatlast, you come back from a holiday a little bit lighter, or maybe just the same or no more than a tiny bit heavier?

    For me, that’s the most miraculous thing about 5:2. Despite the endless plateaux, despite being stuck at about 5 kilos above the weight I’d like to be – although some kind friends whose opinion I respect have suggested that I am at my natural weight and can’t do much about it – I have not regained a single one of the 14 kilos it has taken me nearly 3 years to lose. Apart, that is, from the odd post-holiday kilo which only takes a few days of careful consumption to get rid of.

    BTW, I’m currently reading Lionel Shriver’s “Big Brother”, whose eponymous hero, once a fit, slender, handsome guy, who resorted to mind-boggling comfort eating when his life took a series of downturns, has a weight problem which makes any of ours pale into insignificance. I’ve now got to the place where, with the support of his sister, he is on an extreme fast and has lost nearly 40 lbs, with still a long, long way to go. Please don’t tell me how it ends.

    Welcome back and happy new year, Thin! Well done on the food control, too. You must be very proud of yourself. The old adage, slightly changed, you can have your holiday and enjoy it too, works with just a bit of self control, doesn’t it?
    After unpacking and washing the winter gear, we are off over your way on Thursday, but straight to Freo for lunch and then heading off down south. Too little time for a catchup this time, unfortunately.
    Cheers everyone…off to bed. P

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