Hey There,

Glad to hear things are going so swimmingly Salma! Congratulations on passing that goal! It’s been really tough for me to get below 120 pounds (54 kilos).

As fate would have it, due to a schedule change and doing aerials on Saturday, I’m fasting again today. I hope this and the lower TDEE jog things a bit.

Also, I don’t count calories every day. I make up cards with my meals for the day and calorie counts and rotate them. That way I know exactly how many calories I’m having per day. I don’t claim this will work for anyone else, but it works for me. Just a thought. Happy weekends one and all!

Hey Lori,

I know the feeling about the pound coming back. That has been happening to me a lot of this week (though it hasn’t come back really–more been staying the same really–just as frustrating though when I’m really sticking to the program). Best of luck with your cat, though it sounds like he/she has you trained very well :-).

Have a great weekend!

Hi Milena

Still a great loss. How long have you been doing it? My scales have a difference of 5 lbs. This is within about 5 seconds. I do weigh myself more than once a week to see if I can eventually get a couple of days that agree with each other. I thought I would solve this problem and bought a Salter scale that does fat content, water etc. Even if this isn’t totally accurate at least it should be the weight won’t fluctuate as much in one morning weigh in. Salter is a good weight so I program in my height etc, weigh the first day and the second day it isn’t working at all. It’s on its way back. I did try it again no luck.

I must say I am often under TDEE but that is with only a little bit of mindfulness and a bit of what I fancy.

Last night I watched the sugar program and two days before had a fast day. I had a low low sweet and sour and there are nearly three teaspoons on sugar in in. So it adds around 45 calories.

Oh the pitfalls,,,,,, what a learning curve.

Salma

Well done on your weight loss.

Enjoy a glass of wine, they say it is good for you if you have a small glass and not one of those mini bucket size glasses. A friend of mine has spritzers now. This for her is a way of cutting down. It also cuts down on the calories and helps make it the longer drink.

I have kept the sugar program to look again at how they make the sweet and sour. I didn’t need the rice and I would have rather had more chicken.

Anyone with any nice easy recipes. I would love a barbecue sauce one – as low sugar as I can get. I like to include ingredients from my cupboard if I can. I just want to add a bit or variety. I might go and have a look on slimming world.

Ginette

Ginette,

I love my cat, but would sure like to reset her clock! She sleeps at the foot of our bed, but is a VERY early riser. When she is ready to get up, she jumps down and heads for a big wooden clothes wardrobe that I have in our room and starts using it as a scratching post! She knows I leap out of bed when she starts that. Right after I went to bed last night she started doing that so I sat up and threw a stuffed animal that I keep nearby at her. She took off like a shot and then was a good girl till 4AM. As the weather gets nicer, she prefers to be outside at night on the prowl, so I’ll be able to get more sleep! 😉

Hello All,

My nutritionist could tell you buckets about the evils of sugar. It’s in so many processed foods (good for those of us who have cut those down/out). In fact, he has a lecture that he does where he gets a 5 pound bag of sugar and empties maybe an eighth to a quarter of it on a plate, and then says that is the average amount of sugar most people consume in a day! Quite frightening.

I’m almost embarrassed to say that the only wines I have ever developed a taste for are meads, very sweet ports, and Japanese plum wine (did I mention I have a sweet tooth)? However, I’ve been off all of the above completely since well before 5:2 (though there is a bottle or two in the fridge (wines get better with age, don’t they ;-)?

Welcome Topsy T

I do weigh myself quite often as it is so interesting to see how weight fluctuates. I only record my weight once a week. I too can notice a change in the looseness of clothes. When I am so much overweight it is difficult for other people to notice. Hopefully someone will notice when I have lost another stone or two. I feel so much better. More in control. I enjoy the fast days as much as non fast days.

We started at roughly the same time I was 8th of January and will weigh tomorrow am. Next time I go to the doctor I shall get bloods taken and then I will have something to look back on in a few months time.

Good luck

Ginette

HTopsyT

Welcome, so you’re the gal whose trousers are going to fall down? We are soooo looking go emulate you! Wonderful! Are you measuring? Good to see you here and looking forward to hearing about your journey.

Verve Clicquot, oh you wonderful gal fastdiet, thank you for bringing up such an important subject, no matter how you spell it, Widow Clicquot invented the technique of dry champagne, we fall at her feet, imagine dry champagne, dry hence no sugar and champagne hence no calories. – yes really!!!! Otherwise known as Ambrosia, the drink of the Gods (do NOT mistake with Ambrosia custard, if you HAVE to have custard, and of course you do, make it with cream and eggs, and do at least two extra fast days before, so you can enjoy a decent portion!

Do y’all realise that one of THE MOST IMPORTANT side effects of 5:2 is that we spend less on food, hence we can afford decent wine. Losing weight, though great, is only as side effect of being able to afford GREAT food and drink Soooo FA (Foodie Alcoholics) (must be careful, this libertarian thinking could get me into trouble.)

I, on behalf of the group, promise to drink a bottle of Madame Clicquot’s invention at EVERY 20lb loss. Seems the decent thing to do! I once visited the company and bought a few bottles. Rather good! If anyone would like to join me in this pledge, I will undertake to find the cheapest price – being married to a Scot has that effect!

Strange choices today, got to court, 80 miles plus a 20 minute ferry, stayed in Dunoon a couple of hours. Met the lady who was in the other car, young guy was ovetaking her, didnt notice us on the other side of the road, minor smash, so easily could have been as fatal crash (son was very upset at the thought of losing Mum, Dad, AND the little red sports car) anyway lad pleaded guilty at the last minute, to dangerous driving, waste of a day, this lady brought new boyfriend for supposrt as she had never been in court before, boyfriend was an old friend, six degrees of separation????

Feastday, two drive through costa lattes, one slice of bread, a ton of grapes and a steak and rye bread sandwich, plus LARGE glass of red wine. soo tasty and under 1200 calories.

Milena! I love those rules! I agree with each and every one.

I had a lovely meal last night beginning with a nice glass of wine. I had a salad and a yummy, soft wheat roll slathered with butter. Then came the main course of broiled seafood. A piece of Haddock, a crab cake, 4 big shrimp and 4 huge scallops. I did give DH a couple of the scallops and a shrimp or 2. The biggest indulgence was the side of macaroni & cheese. I was over full, but very happy with my meal.

Of course the scale was up this morning what will all that food still making it’s way thru my system! Today is a half-fast which may be a bit difficult as I’ll just be sitting around the house all day. I’ll do my best!

Have a great Saturday everyone!

Hi All,

All this talk of food is making me hungry! It must be nice to have a high enough TDEE that you can actually eat like a normal person and watch the scales go down. However, I don’t mean to sound upset at all. I’m not really. Today I finally trimmed down below the 20 pound mark since starting 5:2 (well 20.2 pounds/9.2 kilos/1.4 stone). It seems like it has taken forever to get below 120 pounds, but after yesterday’s fast day I have finally done it! Yippee, hooray! I honestly can’t recall the last time I weighed this amount–though it might have been 1994-1998! Onward and downward!

Mammar, another forum recommended this TDEE calculator. I’ve been using it, though for some reason it doesn’t work well for everyone. Put in your goal weight and see what transpires. Hope this helps. Please let us know what you think of it.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/calorie-calculator/ITT-20084939

Also, regarding shopping, my nutritionist suggests to “shop the periphery of the store” as he puts it. He says all the processed food with lots of sugar and other ickys is in the middle of the store, so if you only buy what’s just inside the outer wall of the store (usually things like produce, etc.) there’s better food available. Of course, that’s not always the case (for example, olive oil–that I’ve been consuming lots of late is in the middle of the store, as is the health food section where I get my dishwashing liquid and laundry detergent), but you get the general idea. Then again, he’s opposed to chocolate–insufferable man.

Hi Mammar

Had to laugh at how long it took you. I must admit I cheacked some of the regular things I have online. My treats I like, only work out at about 250 calories so not too bad. They might not have much nutritional benefit but a great psychological one.

My son alway said he can’t bear shopping with me as I look at the labels. before it was for calorie content, now I will look at both. I don’t like shopping with him either so it suits us both. We are both doing the 5:2. I count everything, he estimates too much. I am getting him in the habit of looking at the labels and he will do sometimes, but never weighs anything. Sigh….. Luckily being a man it is easier for him to lose weight.

Well done Janeyw on your achievement. You must feel so pleased.

Milena, have a glass of whatever you like when you achieve the target you have set with my blessing.

I think we all have to set out own rules as we are all different. Any easy fast day ideas would be great as long as I don’t have to spend time in the kitchen near temptation. Even the strangest foods can seem appealing.

Since I had a bad knee injury I do my main shop online. I find that this avoids temptation. I still do small shops though. I get all of the heavy stuff delivered. As ASDA and Tesco deliver for £1 it is cheaper than driving there. I avoid being swayed by offers that way as well.

Not sure if everybody has the online delivery option. Let’s me know. In England you need to spend £25 for delivery at the shops I have mentioned. With cat food, litter and cleaning products as well as groceries that is easy.

I only have online about once a month, as I like to have to go to the shops as well.

Firehorse I am glad your cat has stopped ripping the carpet, I have to redecorate the hall this summer as my cat ripped the wallpaper when he was a kitten. I need him to grow out of that stage before I redecorate.

Salma is 1000 calories your TDEE? How difficult! mine is about 1700, very achievable. 95% on the time I eat well under that, only the occasional day I go over.

Woke my Wii up yesterday first time in well over a year and started exercising. I did brilliantly on it before but it takes me about three weeks to get into the habit. I hope that will stimulate the weight loss. Does anyone else use this method of exercising? It is great for people who aren’t used to exercising as they have lots of games that only last about 3 -5 minutes but by the time I do repeats and then a few more games it easily adds up. Wii fit counts the calories burnt too. I realise this might not be completely accurate but I set myself a calories used target to get to. This was 200 each time I used it during the week and 300 at the weekend. Then I had an overall target I wanted to reach which I remember being about 1000 and then going up higher as the weeks progressed. I remember not finishing until I reached that target and this made me do a mixture of exercises (they are more like games) to reach it.

Anyone doing HIT?

How is everyone doing this weekend?

Ginette

Hi Ginette, I got my Wii out yesterday for the first time in about 2 years. I had such trouble getting it to show on the screen, you wouldn’t believe it! I blame Spanish teles. And then I didn’t have the right batteries for the hand held thingy, and we forgot to get them when we were out today. I am looking forward to having a go when I finally get it up and running.
We are having a Chinese night, aromatic crispy duck (we have been to Iceland today) spare ribs and oven chips. With a large glass of red (not sweet so doesn’t count, in fact I don’t think Saturdays count anyway do they?)

Hi

The point of the rules is to adhere the ones that you fancy, and the ones which apply to you. If you feel like it, please add more . I think you should add that Saturday doesn’t count, Apple pie. Like that one, especially as I had to abandon my fast today, coffee out with very stressed friend, it was a two latte problem!!! She felt so much better afterwards, so worth the sacrifice (she said polishing her halo). Had rye bread with prawns, poached salmon, guacamole, peppers tomatoes, cucumber and Salad leaves. And quite a lot of mayo. Just to make sure I had some fat!!

Fasting tomorrow and Monday, got a head cold so probably a good time for back to back, as losing my sense of taste anyway.

Good day otherwise, watched James Martin, brilliant and watched the rugby, amazing!!! Well done Ireland, but brilliant play by England and France!! And Wales. Wooden spoon for Scotland, must have a full canteen by now!!! It takes grit to be a Scottish rugby supporter. Though I have NO sympathy for the two I live with.

Re cats, be strict, but give them extra hugs, my girl has just had another mini-stroke. Looking a bit doddery at the mo, last of a long line and I bred her myself. A naughty cat is a healthy cat, hope I’m yelling at her as usual very soon!

Have a grateful Sunday, travel hopefully…

Milena, sorry to hear about your girl. Give her a hug for me.

I am relieved to hear that Saturday’s don’t count, as the wheels fell off my plan today! I just picked and nibbled all day.

My cat slept in this morning….what a good girl. It was nearly 5:30! I’m afraid closing the bedroom door would not work as she would paw at the door and sing “The song of her people” until I let her in! She can be quite persistent.

Well, I won’t be happy with the number on the scale in the morning, but no one to blame but myself. It was just one of those days.

I have a mountain of laundry to tackle tomorrow. I really don’t mind that chore. Wish the sun would shine so I could wash some rugs and hang them outside. It’s going to be quite cold tomorrow.

Later!

Blummin’heck Salma, nearly fell off my chair, if you WERE a TDEE of 1000, what would that make me, short and sedentary, which is a rather nice way of describing bone idle. Probably something too low to be able to even divide by four.

Rule #7 Find a TDEE which works for you! Do your best to stay within it. When you can. Except when you can’t.

Wii sounds good, except I’m rarely alone in the house, boys would enjoy the sight of me wobbling, but would take it off me within 5 minutes to play themselves. Better than me too. Anyway son has sold the disc thingy.

Cat – Willow – has had hugs. Snuggling into OH ‘s neck at the moment. Sweet.

Hi Jayneyw, would be happy to know the fall didn’t hurt and that you were able to climb back on the wagon. You are our wee star! Very inspiring.

Amazing success too, are you far off target yet? In my dreams I would hope to get to under 130, though the TDEE at that weight seems impossible, hopefully I begin to get fit before then.

Well done all of you for dusting your Wiis off!

I am so proud. I really lost loads of weight doing just this and eating what a wanted before. I had a friend who was dieting and hopping mad because I was doing better than her and eating what I wanted.

I do however now advocate the healthier option of eating most of the time with some carefully planned treats that aren’t so calorie laden…sometimes the odd one which isn’t.

The Wii thingy is called a consul, really cheap now second hand on ebay. To weigh and monitor on there you will need a balance board. The Wii plus game again on eBay buy it now for about £6 free postage. You will also need the balance board again you can buy this on eBay second hand.

The Wii has exercises that are cleverly worked out to tone all areas. Not the boring type of toning though but as a game.

An example is pin ball:

your Mii (character you make) stands in a pinball machine, it is given a task to add up to either 15 or 20. The pins all have numbers on them. To do that you have to move your hips to hit the pins at the side and to hit the ones at the back and front you have to move your stomach out or bottom out. The clock counts down and you have a limited time to complete. As you play you get better and faster and beat the clock. It scores you every time, the competitive part makes you want to play it. It certainly tones you up and uses muscles you haven’t used in ages, it’s not even much movement so it is quite surprising.

There is the bird one where you have to bend forwards and backwards only slightly, and flap your wings to get onto the target areas, the targets are all at sea and the final aim is to reach the ship. Quite good fun and will make you look really silly.

The obstacle course is also good there are about three or four stages to this and you have to learn to avioid the obstacles, it is fun trying to master all of the levels, very addictive

There are many more games on it, I had the Wii fit plus which I think there are more games on. Ignore the Wii U as it is expensive and Wii fit u has lost some good games and only added a couple. I have both.

I will see if I can post some links to the individual games for those who have never used it.

I like that fact that it shows calories burnt and although I know that this probably isn’t completely accurate I use it as a guide. It also calculates your fit age when you first use it prepare for a shock, I think I gained about 15 years.

If you don’t use ebay I will look and see where else you can buy them. There are many exercise games available for this to play in pairs or families or if not against computer opponents.

I have

Wii Sports
Wii sports resort
Wii fit plus
Ea active

Also some others which I will need to check the names of.

Also I don’t work for Nintendo and never have!!

I like the fact that I can get do them before I get dressed. At first I did about 10 mins twice a day and then I got hooked. Eventually I just tried to do 20 mins. I put the kettle on came and did 10 mins went to make my cup of tea and then got ready for work, later in the day I came in prepared dinner while it was cooking I did another 10 mins. It is easy to do that way I had about three days off of it a week, but did it at least one day over the weekend.

Now I have to make sure that I do it as you all have yours ready to do.

Milena so sorry to hear about your cat, it is so awful when they are ill.

Janeyw well done for doing the HIT how are you finding it?

Firehorse have you got a scratching post. I spray cat nip on mine and they scratch it like crazy

Applepie you are obviously is Spain then. Well done on getting ithe Wii out. If You used to have fun with it you will again.

Salma I too have not been good today, I had it all planned, cooked a double portion yesterday and then I got a phone call to go to my stepmother Pam’s house, she had my sons dog but as she hasn’t been well I had to go up and walk it for him as he was working. She hadn’t eaten and asked me to get a Chinese curry and chips, we shared one half each. Tomorrow is another day and Next week I will be extra good to make up for it.

On leaving Pam’s to come home at 10 pm my friend called as her Dad had fallen down the stairs, he is about late eighties, she asked if I could sit with her daughter who is disabled while she went to hospital with him. She got in at 3,30am so I was home about 4. He had a CT scan and he was very lucky. The fact that he had taken a sleeping tablet about 2 hours before helped him as it meant he was less tense when he fell down the stairs. They haven’t got all the tests back yet but early indications seem good.

I’m now off to bed as it is late here, I hope not to have an adventurous Sunday.

I know I’ve rambled a bit I hope you understand my post.

This is like therapy!

Night All

Ginette

Ok last one Wii fit plus video from Nintendo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t3pfQdADxEs

Ginette are you sure you don’t work for Nintendo? haha! you have done the trick for me. I am on the point of pressing confirm to buy a Wii fit plus with balancing board! I looked on Amazon.es (Spain) but they were all coming from the UK anyway so I am buying through the UK site even though the postage cost is nearly as much as the item, no free delivery for me, oh no….

I swerved the scales this morning so can’t confirm if Saturdays count or not, but I don’t regret it, the crispy duck was to die for!

Walk along the coast planned for later, what is everyone else up to?

Oh my….green with jealousy about the mention of playing golf. I simply cannot wait until the whole weekend is consumed with walking the golf course.

I think I’ll abandon my daily weighing as it’s getting on my nerves. Up, down, up, down. I think I’ll go back to once a week or whenever I feel like it.

I have the Wii fit plus but haven’t had it turned on for years. I’m not even sure I remember how to use it. Since I started going to boot camp sessions, the only other thing I do is some running when the weather is decent. Speaking of weather, it is to be cold and windy today so that is another day I’m stuck inside. I want to go out for dinner, so that will be the only time I go out.

Boot camp tomorrow morning and then back to work. It’s a fast day, but I’m actually looking forward to it. I hope to have 2 good fast days and 1 half-fast. We’re going away next weekend to see our 12 year old grandson play in a baseball tournament. It’ll be nice to have something different to do on a weekend instead of being stuck inside.

Have a good Sunday!

Didn’t there used to be a rule which said that there are no calories in chips if you take them off someone else’s plate?

Have just worked out the calories in my lunchtime sandwiches on feast day; four slices of wholemeal bread spread with real butter, twelve slices of pastrami, two tomatoes, half an iceberg lettuce and 50g of mayonnaise = 1200 calories. OMG! I know I can eat anything, but there’s a limit. If I cut out butter and go for light mayonnaise it drops down to about 700 calories which may be better.

I notice you are all getting your Wii’s out again, that should last a few weeks before they are consigned to the cupboard again. I gave mine to a charity shop before I moved to Lakeland and I’m not tempted to get another. I may have another go at the Biggest Loser DVD and see if I can keep up for more than the usual two minutes before collapsing.

I’ve found the best thing to do on FD’s is get up, check the weather forcast, go for a long walk, come back and do some vacuuming and general cleaning, do the washing, make four portions of lentil soup for fast day teas, check out the Fast Diet forum, have a shower, lie on the sofa and go to sleep for an hour or two, read a book, watch TV & go to bed. Then do absolutely nothing on a feast day except reading and TV. Seems to work.

Last FD tomorrow and measuring day too. Only weigh myself on the 1st of the month, so a bit to go yet.

Fat Graham

I read someone that you have lost a lot of weight. Well done!

Do you have any stats on it starting weight etc and current weight?

Good for the new people on the forum. I have only been on it a few weeks myself.

It was reading good stories and also the way that people struggled that helped me out. It made me join to encourage, share and moan. Hopefully mostly the first two and not much moaning. It also creates more of an understanding about what a journey we are on. When you have been on the forum you feel we are on the journey together. First forum that I have really accessed on a regular basis.

Hopefully I am a fully fledged member now.

Ginette

to clarify Graham

rule#8 chips do not contain calories

provided they are from somone elses’s plate, provided you are not caught nicking them, provided you don’t have more than four and provided you show restraint ie salt and vinegar is fine, but you can’t count as calorie free if you dunk them in mayonaise!

or any variation on the rule you think is fair!

Like the lifestyle too. 12 slices of meat for lunch seems to be a guy thing, my son has the same!

Ginette, black pepper on strawberries is rather nice, on Saturday kitchen (why do I still watch cookery programmes??????), the Scottish sikhs did strawberries in sugar, black pepper and cinnamon.

Personally, dunked in a glass of cold sparkling wine does it for me.

Hopefully you and I will be joining the gymmies soon! I think I am too fat at the mo and unlike salma, Im not brave!!! You know you are my hero, Salma!! Hope the weekend is great for you. Tomorrow is another (fast) day. Im right behind you! Having a day watching films too, nursing my cold.

Janey, wines do get better with age, they certainly dont spoil. Though my expertise extends only to keeping bottles for a few weeks, and only then when we bring cases home from trips to France, it often takes us a couple of months to get through the 100 bottles we bring back!!!

(Really am a reformed character – being really good this year, only room for an overnight bag in the little car, and only if the bag is half full. Though seriously thinking of taking clothes I can throw away, so that I can get a couple of bottles in there).

Wont be joining you golfers, I’ve only played on links courses facing the north sea. Bracing, to say the least.

If you are fasting tomorrow, good luck, its Spring, so soon time to ditch the winter woolies.

Travel hopfully……..