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  • This sounds like a very good thread to join, though to be honest I’ve only read the first page and this one.

    I started the 5:2 diet just after Christmas because I had watched the Horizon programme after skipping through BBC iPlayer looking for something to watch, then got the books and decided to have a go. Unfortunately I used a BMI calculator on the Internet which said that my TDEE was 2900 calories a day and quite often I went over that by a couple of hundred calories, sometimes to about 3600 calories. Like an idiot I then gave it up after about two weeks because I wasn’t losing any weight.

    I’ve since decided to start again, mainly because I went to the doctors about some hip and knee pain while out walking and he told me it was the onset of Arthritis due to me being too heavy and my joints can’t cope with it and a stomach pain which is due to me giving myself a hernia bending down to put on my socks. I’ve therefore used the calculator on this site which tells me my TDEE is just slightly over 2400 calories a day (53 years of age, 5′ 6″ tall, male, 21 stones, does bugger all).

    I’m going to do the 4:3 for a few months to see how I get on and also do either 10 minutes HIT before breakfast or go for a walk after breakfast on my non fast days. I need to lose 9st (126lbs/277kg/441000kcals) which I’m hoping will take less than 2 years. Fast days will be Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

    Today is my first fast day, I’ve had nothing since 7.00pm last night and it seems to be going well with no hunger pangs though I am drinking loads of decaff coffee and I have a tin of grapefruit segments (32 calories) held in reserve just in case. I’m only going to weigh myself on the first of the month, so hopefully I’ll have better results by the 1st April rather than weighing myself every week like I did last time.

    Keep with it, Graham! I will add an s to your name and think of you as FastGraham.

    Fasttrackers, have I told you lately that I love you? Because I do. Been reading and lurking lately, but keeping up with reading. Have not had the mental energy to post, but wanted to give Graham a big boost! xoxo

    Welcome Graham. You can do it, and you’ve come to the right place for support. Lots of successful losers here. Do you think you’ll be able to cope with 4:3 straight away?
    Good luck 🙂

    Ply Smiley

    Ply, wee and Smiffy,
    How you doing ladies, just checking you are Ok

    You’ll need to change your name in the future FatGraham as your new body won’t go with the name ☺

    Good luck with it, you have a great and sensible plan. I’m at the beginning of my fasting journey too and doing 4:3 for the first time this week. I’ve found this third fast tough going so well done to you for looking to do it regularly.

    Thanks Amazon, Jojo, and all, I am fine, just a lot going on. It has been a very full winter, but all is looking up for spring!

    Hello all

    Jojo – yes, I’m still here and doing quite well. Sticking to the 1200 calories on non-fast days so far as possible, which has been most days.. Another good fast yesterday and I’m not weighing again until after my next fast on Monday. We are going to a dinner party tomorrow evening, so will enjoy a few glasses of wine. That’s the fantastic thing about this WOL – we can enjoy a social occasion without feeling deprived or guilty and just get back on with it the next day.

    Hi Graham, and SlimMeDown. Amazon is right Graham – you could be starting off being unnecessarily hard on yourself. Weight comes off quickly when you first start this way of eating, particularly when there is quite a lot to lose, and men tend to lose weight far more quickly than women in any event. Don’t give up everything you enjoy. Do stick with this thread though. We’re all in the same boat and we all keep each other afloat with inspiration, motivation and good humour.

    RT – I thought about you the other day when I heard your song on the radio :

    ‘Keep on keeping on’ everyone.

    Smiffy x

    Zzzzz

    Zs are my fasting strategy today!

    Hi going to do my first fast on Monday – really like the 2 lb a week thought 🙂

    Well, today is a fast day and I’m starting to feel very hungry now, so I may have to open that tin of grapefruit. I went up to the village shop earlier to get some money out, but fortunately I didn’t have to go in as I may have succumbed to the cake shelf which is just inside the door.

    Next FD is Monday, so I’ll see how I feel on Tuesday whether I want to fast on Wednesday as well. Seems a lot of people on here think that 4:3 and ADF are difficult to start with, so I’ll see if I can do it before dropping onto 5:2.

    What are you having to eat today Graham aside from grapefruit?

    Fasting IS difficult to start with. People tend to get through the first day full of good intention and determination, and cope with the next one too, but a couple of weeks in, it can become more difficult before the body (and the mind) get used to it. 4:3 and ADF are both achievable but not easy to maintain long term, even for an experienced faster.

    Happy Friday everyone

    Good luck Graham, the good thing is even if you’re feeling hungry today, just keep telling yourself to keep going and then tomorrow you can have something nice for breakfast. Whether you fancy it in the morning or not is by the by, it will give you determination to get through the evening.

    If you’ve for calories left try having something filling like soup. Or if not then each time you feel like raiding the fridge, just log in here, either the comments from others will keep you motivated or your can share your cravings and by the time you’ve typed it up the feeling will have passed.

    I’m only 5 weeks in and like many others I’m starting to look forward the fast days and enjoy the feeling.

    Not a fast day for me but I like to keep Fridays about 1000 calories so semi fast day. Back to hula hooping now that the bruises have gone. Trying to do 10 minutes X 3 times a day. Apparently it’s quite a good fat burner.

    My plan to replace the fizzy drinks with water getting better, I’ve kept a water bottle beside me all day and got through 3 full bottles so far. I am determined to make this a good habit.

    Looking forward to a lovely curry tomorrow night. We treated ourself one day last month and i stuck to a chicken tikka starter and still managed to stay within TDeE for the day.

    Not so sure about Sunday as Mother’s Day here and my folks coming for dinner and tea. But I’ve told them we’re going for a long walk in between.

    Have a lovely evening.

    CW

    Morning all 😀

    Welcome to the new contributors.

    FatGraham (FG from now if you don’t mind 😀 ) I think you miscalculated your kg as 126 lb = 57kg not 277 kg (which would equal 609 lb btw) 😆 😀 . There are several of us on this thread who are looking to lose similar amounts and some here who HAVE lost that or similar amounts.

    Even though I have often done 4:3 I still find it difficult. I can occasionally manage a B2B which I need to start going back to once every couple of weeks now to get back on my track.

    A busy weekend this weekend with an opportunity to get in at least ONE semi-FD tomorrow and it depends how I go today (busy wise) as to whether today will end up a semi-FD too. I find it easier to do two semi-FD’s plus two FD’s a week than 3 FD’s.

    It’s almost 6am and I have to get moving now, will check back in later. Happy fasting/non-fasting days/nights one and all 😀

    Hi Comespring and others

    Hang in there. As Jojo says, the weight eventually comes off if you stick with intermittent fasting.

    As an experiment of one, why not try to go without any sugar or grains for a month. For many of us, it is harder to fast after a day of eating that includes carbs and sweet foods, than after a day without any carbs and sugars.

    You will know very quickly if this is going to shift you off the plateau. The good part is that once you start losing, your body seems to crave less. You are not giving up sweet foods and grains forever, just for the trial to see its impact. 😉

    Keep on keepin on!

    Cheers, Bay 🙂

    PS. I lost my 17 kgs of weight through 5:2 and by giving up all sugars and grains, and all white foods. I ate lots of vegetables and lean protein. And drank lots of water. Best of all I lost three clothes sizes. 😉

    I never once did 4:3 or ADF or 24 hour fasts during my weight loss, as I didn’t want to jeopardise my commitment to fast for health reasons.

    Cheers, Bay 🙂

    Welcome FG, SlimMeDown and Dollysue,
    Please take it easy in your first three months as fasting can have horrible sugar withdrawal symptoms which include irritability and headaches. I barely survived my first three months, it was hell for me and my family and co workers. But once out of the other side life is good.
    I recommend 4 pints of water per day to detox and vegetable soup( preferably home made). I also suggest you wear a pedometer and do a minimum 10,000 steps daily. I now average 20,000 and feel really good. The fresh air alone gives you a feel good factor. See if you have local walking groups as walk/talk is less of a chore.
    Good Luck new friends. This group have lost over 1000 pounds, please contribute.
    I am aiming for three stone over the next 6 months which I believe to be realistic.

    Hi this is my second day of fasting. I am fasting Wed and Fridays. It is already 1:40 and I am planning to walk with a friend. I sure enjoyed reading everyones posts. I am going to stick to 5:2, and monitor my calorie intake. I want this to become a life style for me. two pounds per week would be awesome!

    Welcome the newcomers,

    Newcomers – I think it’s best to stick to a long plan goal! This is the nicest online forum I’ve beento. No kidding! I belong to quiet a few others, not to lose weight and the support here is very genuine.

    My 2nd FD – I am on 5:2! Yesterday I prepared my total 500cal so I would not get desperate looking for what to eat. I had coffee w/ almond milk, small lunch and rest of the food for dinner. Because I made quinoa and chicken I believe kept my hunger under control. I made sure to drink lots of water as well.
    I feel surprising pretty good! I never thought I was gone be able to to a fast ever. Many times I was starving soon after food.

    Jojo and the others its very nice of you to share your experiences here! I can’t imagine what those three months were. But we are here sharing the good and the bad and to learn.

    Be well everyone

    Welcome Sarah,
    Tell us your story. Good Luck with your journey.

    Hi dolly sue I’m going to start my first fast day Monday to, I’ve been doing it on and off since Xmas lost track the last few weeks had a weekend away in London 2 weeks ago but want to get back into it now. I would like to loose 2 pound a week got a wedding in Greece in September and would like to loose about 2 stone for that. Let me know how your first week goes Hun and I will let you know to. I’m goin to weigh next Friday. Goin to enjoy few lagers tomorrow for the rugby. Come on wales!.

    I know the oldies here already know this, but for newbies, I second Bay’s approach.

    13-14kg lost, and maintained since last June, with 5:2 max (no ADF, no 4:3), but low/ no processed carb/ sugar.

    I know I didn’t have as much to lose as some, but still, I think the tortoise wins the race…

    Hi all. Just thought I’d let you all know about the 10 calorie low fat jelly u can get in asdas it’s a good snack with A bit of fruit to snack on to curb hunger on a fast day. That’s what I be stocking up on when I get back onit next week .

    Well done, Weebil

    Great to reach your goal. Pat yourself on the back and prepare to maintain. 😉 To keep on top of it, most of us have worked out that we need to weigh ourselves every day to judge how much food we can safely take in that day.

    I have been maintaining for eight months.
    Either by staying on 5:2 and eating all foods in correct portion size, OR
    doing 6:1 and having no sugar grain combo foods.

    Cheers, Bay 🙂

    Hi Bryn.

    Unfortunately there will be very little nutritional value in that jelly. It will contain artificial sweetener which most of us avoid, and probably artificial flavouring too.
    Most of us are doing 5:2 for the health benefits as well as weight loss, so are trying to ensure we eat a healthy diet.

    Hi again,
    I made it through my second day with eggs – protien drink – and a chicken salad for a total of 520 calories. I too do not eat any gulten, dairy, or sugar and try to stay away from processed foods. Although my down fall is porkrinds. I have some cheese maybe once a week. I am 5foot 2 and weigh 117.2 My goal is to be 112.8 and stay there for life. I am in this for the long run. I am the turtle. But I will be happy if I weigh 115.2 next week and by April 1st 112.8.
    I sure enjoy reading about how everyone is doing,
    Bay.. I am looking forward to maintaining my weight, I am glad you are here to give advice because maintance is an unknown territory.

    Thanks Aussie Oma, you are correct, I multiplied the 126lbs by 2.2 instead of dividing it.

    Think I’ll do as you all suggest and do 5:2, cutting down on the bread and white rice which seems to be the staple of all my meals. Yesterday was very hard when it got to evening and I’m not sure I could do that three times a week, though I’m sure I should be able to do it with at least three normal days inbetween.

    Hi Graham and welcome. I only do 4:3 if I have had a lot of socializing and need to correct the damage. I find it too hard otherwize. Fast days do get easier, especially when you realize you just have to keep busy or distracted. And keep telling yourself, you can have it tomorrow! 9 times out of 10 you wont still want it!

    Well done Sarah, you are on the fastracking train! Even with a relatively small amount to lose, you still need to be motivated and determined. Easier to make excuses and delay if you think “its not much”.

    Congratulations Weebil, that was quick! Well done. Listen to the maintainers like Bayleaf and Purple, they really know what they are doing.

    To all the newbies, Jojo and SAMM have lost 70lbs each!! You can learn so much from them. Not everything will relate perfectly to your situation, but you will be inspired by their sheer determination. Plus learn so much from them. Just keep reading and posting.

    We ate out last night and I overindulged, so fasting today. So far so good, stir fry chicken from the 5:2 book tonight, dished mine up then added some hokkien noodles for the slim people I live with. We are going to see the 2nd Marigold Hotel movie tonight, I cant wait. Have seen the first one 3 times, so many funny lines. I thought I might eat my dinner afterwards (10pm)and make do with some fruit or carrot sticks thru the movie, but husband is worried I will embarress him by crunching loudly! Thats not going to stop me though! I know if I eat first I will be famished again afterwards and probably in a very relaxed state of mind after watching the movie, so it would be too tempting to have a late “snack” which could undo the whole fast day.

    Morning Nama,
    I saw Best Marigold Hotel last night and though it was great, much better than the first one which I fell asleep in because I was bored.
    Morning Bryn and welcome again. I am going to my first ever Rugby match at Wembly in March, to sing with the Rock Choir and Pixie Lott, hope I enjoy it. I agree 5:2 is better in the first three months, the longer you fast the easier it gets. I honestly think I could do it everyday now with ease. However ADF is the maximum promoted by Dr M and he has investigated the fasting WOL scientifically. Tortoise or fast track – each to their own, just keep on it, keep motivated. Posting on here does help, it’s our 24 hour per day help line and gym partner, for free. Most importantly keep moving, ditch old habits one at a time, change and embrace it. Compliments will come and boost your resolve. I have gone from size 24 to 16 and love it. I am a normal size person again, it really makes life good, next step a slim size person. Good Luck!
    I am staying with a good friend who has prepared nothing but diet meals, love her to bits. Of course she has lost three stone herself so understands us.
    Another friend is undergoing surgery today, the dreaded ‘C’ word so I am feeling very on edge, she is only 50 and has suffered terribly this last six months. Spare her a good thought today, DJ has had a difficult life both with men and family yet remains one of the kindest most thoughtful people I know. She deserves a break.

    Weebil,
    So sorry, forgot to say well done, 59 kg, dream weight. Hope you enjoyed the food festival.
    Hats off to you.
    Stay with us, we need to see that you can maintain it, it gives those still on the way down hope.

    Morning/evening all.

    A sunny but cold morning and I’m going out for a nice long brisk walk, and see how many steps I can do. It’s a B2B fasting weekend as I’ve come to realise that I’ve not got over that “it’s the weekend I’ll have some of everything” mindset just yet and I need to work on it.

    I saw Second Best Marigold Hotel a week ago and really enjoyed it.
    I have a huge list of films I want to see, and I’ve probably missed half of them despite receivng an email from the Odeon every week containing the listings!

    Have a good day/evening everyone 🙂

    Hi all , I have completed 3 weeks of 5:2 and lost 4lb , I’m currently 140lb and want to be 126lb , I would be happy to lose 1lb a week but this week I didn’t lose anything, I excersize 2 gym sessions this week and lots of walking ( no car) disappointed at no weight or inches lost ……… Need inspiration and tips to stick at it, I found my last fast day very hard, very hungry, huge headache ….. Questioning ‘ why am I doing this???’

    What do you eat on non fasting days? I’m sticking to my tdee around 1850 , mostly healthy food but not always …….any tips would be appreciated before I give in 🙂

    Cheers for Weebil!
    Wonderful to reach goal even when you thought you couldn’t .

    I like the 19/5 too! JoJo particularly when on calorie restriction. Though I see a variant for 19/5 that haven’t had much experience with it yet. For me looking at addition health benefits big and small.
    Where rather than 19/5 at the same every day. It’s more of a 5 hour window of eating.
    With that say on Monday.
    Mon 8am-1pm
    22hours non calorie.
    Tues 3pm-8pm

    Seems the more we know about the natural DNA repair mode , that the non calorie window may have a role. My understanding is it’s after most everything from digestion has left the blood. I’m still reading on the subject. Still trying determin what will be my best approach to maintenance after I’ve reached goal. I know I will still want to get into the DNA repair mode as often as possibleand still live life deIciously. Without the issues of 23/1 one meal a day. I have an expectation for myself to have a complete understanding of the DNA repair mode and the foods that help cell division happen correctly in the first place. Wish I knew about much early in my life , but amm glad to be doing it now non the less. Currently I observe 3 occurrences a week of 27 hours of non calorie intake. Exact times are Based on my work schedule. Has nothing to do my fat loss goals but the seem to coincide. I figure why not?

    Only 45 minutes to go and ican have the Saturday morning 500 cals of oat bran with berries and walnuts.
    🙂
    Just saying I seem to do better sleeping on an empty stomach than trying to work on an empty stomach.

    Evening all.

    Loved the movie, highly recommend it, very entertaining and very clever script. I could even have enjoyed it more than the first, so unusual with a sequel!

    Teresa, do NOT give up! Just be patient. You can see with what you have lost already, it works! Just keep reading all you can and find what suits you best. You can eat anything within your calorie limits, but most of us prefer to choose healthy options for obvious reasons, plus you usually get more food for your calorie. You know why you are doing it. Ordinary ‘calorie restriction every day’ diets dont work for long, they are too hard and impossible to maintain. Fasting gets easier and easier, you get your ‘dieting’ done then forget it for a few days. On non fasting days stay within your calorie allowances and try to eat as healthily as possible. Your tastes will change, cravings for rubbish diminish significantly. Keep reading and posting, the support on this thread is invaluable. Good luck.
    ps your headache probably due to insufficient extra water/salt. They disappear as your body gets used to fasting, but remember to drink lots of water, or miso soup really helps. Amazon just cuts to the chase and has some salt, that will do the trick.

    I have just enjoyed my stir fry (10.45pm) so can go to bed with something in my tum. I find it impossible to sleep when hungry. Just ask any newborn!

    Cheers all x

    Hiya everyone

    sorry \I haven’t been around as much . There has been a lot going on family wise and we are due to go visit middle son in the afternoon and eldest and his wife coming here later . OH has had 2 hospital appointments and had to go to youngest sons a couple of times . 5.2 is going great and have now lost 5st 3 pounds in total (3 pounds) that is 3 and a half stone on 5.2 since July (49 pounds).

    I bought new tops from Asda yesterday size 14 . I keep thinking everything must be big made lol .
    Went to M&S factory outlet yesterday . The girls all know me there and were asking what I had done and to explain 5.2 . They knew me when I was 22/24 .

    dad is slowing down a lot . Not surprising at 97 but it still is really upsetting .

    I don’t cut out my Ice Cream but I only have it now and again . I try to do low carb as much as possible but I still have my grapes . people say you can’t loose weight when you are old … WELL!!! you can 🙂 . Age is just a number .

    I am with Amazon here in the fact that I don’t do without anything I really like . If I did I wouldn’t be here long and I wouldn’t loose weight . I still have what I like but in smaller portions and not every day.

    I record everything I eat every day . I like to keep track all the time .

    I started 5.2 because so many of my family have/had Alzheimer’s and I wanted to ward that off as long as I could . I also have RA and asthma . I just cannot believe the difference in my RA .it is amazing . I was hoping the weight would come off too and that has also been amazing .
    I love being on this journey with all of you lovely people

    Wee xx

    oops should have said 5 stone 3 in total (73 pounds) ..but 3 stone 7 pounds (49 pounds )off from July on 5.2

    Afternoon all.

    I had a lovely walk round Kew Gardens with a view to walking back home along the towpath, but it was too cold on a FD having had nothing to eat yet.
    I went to the shops and came away with nothing more damaging than some daffodils, which was not far short of a miracle considering my growling stomach and the smell of the bakery products.
    I was going to have a coffee in my local Costa but realised that I was a bit short on willpower so came home rather than succumb to anything edible at the counter.
    I spent 15 minutes polishing my halo when I got home 😉 and have now settled down to watch an afternoon and evening of sport on TV, rugby followed by tennis.

    Someone on here (may have been this thread, can’t remember) mentioned Birds Eye fish in lemon which I thought sounded nice, so I think I may try the following for fast days:

    Breakfast: 1 tin grapefruit (32 cals)

    Lunch: 3 large egg omelette (240 cals)

    Tea: 1 x 150g chargrilled fish in lemon (115 cals)
    100g new potatoes (76 cals)
    100g broccoli (38 cals)

    Total = 501 cals (leaves 99 cals to play with, just in case)

    I think I’m also going to do my fast days ever fourth day instead of say Mondays and Thursdays, that way I get three full days between each fast day and I can go for a long walk on the middle day.

    Any comments would be appreciated.

    Samm, What are the benefits of 19/5 please? Do you do your 19/5 on consecutive days ie. Monday 8am to 1pm, Tuesday 3pm to 8pm, Wednesday 8am to 1pm etc. or do you have a gap inbetween?

    Hello FG,
    How are you cooking omelette, in butter, have you added this in?

    19/5 is great but may be a bit tough to start. You need to be an experienced faster or very hard core determined, personally I love it but I am addressing a hip problem, inflammation so I am hoping my body will repair itself naturally. I don’t eat breakfast, soup for lunch( without) potatoes or bread or cream, dinner is usually fish and salad or stir fry. Buy fresh fish, cheaper, better quality – trust me! I know about healthy options and processed food.
    What you need to know is that chemicals and toxins in cheap and processed food slow down the bodies digestive system. Please read about ‘clean food’. The sooner you get sugar and carbs out of your diet the better progress you will make. More importantly you will feel energised and therefore be more likely to do more walking.

    Try zero noodles in a stir fry instead of pasta or rice, less calories and very filling.
    Double portion 8 calories. Miso soup is brilliant for anytime snack and will relieve fasting headaches.
    I have just had two bowls of curried veg soup, lentils and veg, delicious. Yum, yum
    Keep fasting, keep moving

    Jojo

    Graham, might I suggest a two egg omelette with 80 calories of vegetables.
    Also, I’m sure you’ll cope with only two days between fasts as you won’t feel any hungrier the day after a fast than usual.
    If you live in a village, which I think you mentioned in a previous post, and fresh fish, fruit and vegetables are more difficult to come by then frozen/tinned will be fine.
    You’ve got a lot of weight to lose, and it will come off quickly at first, so you can use this time to get used to fasting 2 days per week and working out how long you can cope with not eating. I don’t eat until the evening on my FDs as I like to save all my calories for a decent sized meal, but others like to have a small breakfast and/or lunch. It is very flexible so you can take your time and work out what is best for you.
    Once you’ve been fasting for a few weeks, you can start to experiment with extra fast days, 19/5 etc.
    Take it slowly 🙂

    Hi FG

    I’ll start by saying .I’m not an expert. I just started doing intermittent fasting in 2013 alone. And in 2014 liked it enough to make it a longterm lifestyle.

    so in the beginning i believe it best to build up the confidence that this is something that can be tolerated . Only then move to any other variants of Intermittent fasting. Near the three month mark.

    Many times I failed the 5:2 in the beginning . But kept trying . Found trying on monday Wednesday and Friday . Helped me get in a succesful 5:2 week without having to give up weekends.

    as far a benefits of 19/5. Its more to the point of what are health risks of eating only 1 meal everyday at the same time. I read an article about a study that determined that eating all calories in a 4.5 window had no known health risks. My apologies I can’tfind the article or study. It was in 2006.
    Many folks struggling with eating too find that eating in an 8th window helps them from grazing .
    personally I believe in eating either 2 or 3 meals instead grazing. Unless it something like aspargus.

    further there are other benefits to fasting. I’m hooked on keeping up on them reading as much as possible.
    one is the dna repair mode. It is a naturally occurring function of being mamal. For me I want to make my meal planning less about grazing and more about putting as many health benefits into a ten week menu and the take a planned break for two weeks to focus on muscle strengthening.

    I want to get into that dna repair mode as often as possible. Coincidentally 19.5/4.5 is much the same discipline on a regular basis. Basically 19/5 is a conditioning .

    It occurred to me after one of jojo’s posts the 4.5 hour eating window doesn’t have to occure exactly the same time everyday. By sliding the early one day and then sliding hours late the following day a 26 hour non calorie window could open up 2-3 times a week. While observing tdee everyday.

    where as my current fasting regimen is geared for fat loss. I still have two 27hr fasts and 1 36 hour semi fast. I’ll probably tweak the semi fast to fit both my work schedule and the long dna repair mode.

    I believe there may be perfect amount of time per individual to get into dna repair mode and stay only as long as to create other health issues. But i strongly believe it will be more important as to how often the dna repair mode occurs as opposed to the quality.

    researching other factors like what types of should have been last ingested prior to the mode and afterwards to best return to optimal dietary requirments.
    AND of course enjoy it. Because if it’s not enjoyable I’ll never stick to it.

    the reason i belive dna repair mode is crucial to extending longevity . Is that when avoid all other risks of death. Accidental, preventable, and age related. There is still cancer. It is also age related . In that on the cellular level we can only make so many copies of our dna before the errors become too numerous. Those errors become cancer.

    so after about a year of being accustomed to fasting I was less intrested in how food tastes as long as im not getting hunger pangs. Thinking on how do I use the intermittent fasting to also accomplish the other benefits too so that im not only lowering my body fat ratio, but also adding a health benefit each time I put something in my mouth.
    More tha just the macro nutrition of fats, carbs, and protein. More than the micro nutrition of vitamins and minerals. But to include if doable nutriceuticals and the dna repair mode. To also exercise daily and detox from time to time. For me after two years the 19/5 discipline helps to go further when trying for extended fasting.

    so just to be clear if someone said this stuff to me when I was first starting intermittent fasting I tell em to go jump in lake. But over time is more doable than before. As the 19/5 has no known health risks.

    Hi Jojo, the eggs will be fried in one calorie olive oil spray (about five sprays) which apparently also contains water and alcohol. I’ll have a look at the fresh fish option (there is a van that comes round the park one day a week so I may order from them; the Supermarket counter stuff appears to have been frozen, though I don’t know if that makes a difference) and I’ll buy some of the miso soups too. I’ve found a recipe online for lentil soup that I can do in the pressure cooker, so I’ll have a go at that as well (serves 4, 225 cals each; eat one serving, freeze the other three). I can’t find zero noodles, I’m in the UK, can I get them here?

    Thanks Samm, I’ll stick to 5:2 as you suggest for the time being instead of doing the 19/5 because I think I wouldn’t be able to cope with it. I’ll leave it till I’ve been on the fast diet for a few months and I’ve got used to it.

    My doctor, where I used to live, made the mistake of telling me in my 20’s that if I didn’t lose weight I’ll never see 30 and the same for 40 and 50, which I didn’t believe as I was still alive at 30, 40 & 50, whereas if she had said ‘if you don’t lose weight you’ll get cancer or have a stroke’ I’d have slimmed down there and then. No one tells you these things when you are young. That’s why I’m trying to loose weight now, not so much because I want to look good but because I don’t want cancer / diabetes / stroke / heart disease / early onset dementia or loose the use of my knees.

    Graham, you can buy Zero noodles in Boots and Holland&Barrett. Or you can order them online from Boots.com and designate which branch to collect them from. You can also buy them online from Amazon (not me 😉 )

    Graham can I suggest when you buy the zero noodles to try just the one packet at first . Some love them and some hate them . I could not swallow them . But as I said some love them so they are well worth a try pal

    Wee xx

    Fasting is great doable start FG.
    the way dr Mosely puts it forth you can lose fat consistently with or without exercise.

    as ive slimmed down my exercise is becoming more and more doable. Is why I’ve focused on strength training as opposed to cardio. The stronger I get. The more I’m able to do the exercises.

    Its well known that even obese peoples can live o to their 90 when they exercise Regulaly. Fat becomes more deadly as a risk factor the older we get.. as the visceral fat thst surrounds the organs start making it difficult for the organs to function optimally.
    Is why i like dr Mosely videos

    eat, fast, Live longer
    and
    the truth about exercise.

    invitations to do what is doable.

    Had a look on Amazon and the Zero Noodles are £36.00 for 20 cartons, which I think is a bit much to pay if I don’t like them and have to throw them away. Has anyone tried the Eat Water variety? What about their pasta, is this any good?

    What is 19/2? I’ve bought the fast diet book and the recipes are really good 🙂 I use some of them on non fast days !

    NaMA thank you for your words of encouragement ….. I will keep going and use this forum ….. Especially when I’m struggling it’s great to have access to this

    19/5 means only eating in a 5 hour window for example between 1pm and 6pm, and fasting for the other 19 hours.

    Posting from the cheesecake factory!
    Above tdee today enjoying the fact that it’s not the end of my fasting lifestyle.

    Don’t eat it all SAMM 😉

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