Morning/evening all

Hi Happy,

It depends on whose house you’re going to 😉

If you aren’t going to be served much in the way of things you really want to eat you won’t have a good time so it is probably a good idea to take a few things that you’ll really enjoy and offer them as a contribution to the feast 😉

I watched Mary Berry’s Christmas show last night and she made some little tarts that I really want to try. Filo pastry filled with roasted onion and squash, a small amount of savoury custard, cranberry sauce and topped with brie, then baked.
I would be tempted to omit the cranberry sauce as the squash is sweet, and it could always be served on the side.

I’m not hungry at all this morning and am going to see if I can get through to dinner without eating anything.
I’m not feeling particularly wonderful either as I think I’m getting a cold. I shall be very unhappy if I do as my NY was scuppered last time by a cold virus.

Fingers crossed it doesn’t develop into anything horrible.

Have a good one everybody 😜

It’s a nice idea P, but my food wouldn’t taste good to those who’s diets still features refined carbs and added sugar several times a day! And it’s that time of year when people practically try and force feed you mince pies, cake and chocolates. People who merrily stuff their faces over Christmas with everything on offer rarely understand that refusing to gorge oneself isn’t necessarily an act of deprivation or self-inflicted torture!

I will be travelling with kefir, yoghurt, raw nuts and seeds, cheese, ingredients for hummus, oat milk and green tea…!

Thanks for your help.
In fact I was so tired that I decided to break the fast 30 minutes ago.
I ate a fresh persimmon, 6 almonds and a few spoons of yoghurt.
Still the fast was nearly 120 hours, so that’s enough.
I can feel the body using energy to kick start my digestion.
This morning I weighed myself and yes the promised 500g per day came off, though I’m not naive enough to know it will stay off.
The next fast is for the first week of January and I will try 5 days again.
Thanks for your help and support.
Your tarts sound wonderful, Amazon, and I agree with you about the cranberry sauce as a side dish.
Wiwi Wearily.

Good to see you eating the real thing Amazon. (Vegemite 😉😉)
We had 39 deg during the day yesterday and 29 when we went to bed and when we arose this morning. 35 already today (10am). Too bl***y hot. A cool change is due tomorrow. Bring it on. High humidity and high heat are intolerable, especially at night. At least we don’t feel like eating 😊😊😊

Morning/evening all,

Happy,

It wouldn’t do for us all to like the same things, life would be so boring.

Mild and damp here this morning.

I had a really good NFD yesterday and am fasting again today.

Have a good one everybody 😜

Hi Fast Trackers And Hello World (You All know Who You ARE) 😉
Hi Wi firstly congratulations on 120 hour really is a fantastic achievement do not under value that I think if you worried or concerned about extended fasting and re-feeding you can adjust to suit yourself or simply just stop whenever you want there has been some great comments around extended fasting and Amazon nailed it for me personally in that from the family farm 3 eggs with a splash of thick heavy cream lightly scrambled with smoked salmon chopped chives fresh cracked black pepper and dollop of sour cream (full fat of course) now I have suggested many times be your own evidence before and be on your own study of one and continue to be a self-experimenter. Find what works for you that is find you’re doable and keep on keeping on. Everyone has their thing I eat bugger all fruit at any time and I have read many articles suggesting and recommending fruit or melon to start off reintroducing food into the system but that is not for me. Dr M off a 4 day fast broke his with porridge. I can live quite happily as a carnivore for the rest of my life whereas Happy is eating less and less for her own personal reasons, what I will say however is that.
a) The need to re-feed for me is not through hunger firstly and secondly
b) The first meal again for me is not that amazing and actually I feel disappointed when the fasting cycle has been broken for what I consider just an average eating experience.
I do not have a pass port and I have never left Australia in fact it was only 6 or 7 years ago that I had my first commercial flight from Adelaide to Melbourne as I recall and that experience left thinking and wondering what all the who-haa was about as in my mind this was going to be a significant and memorable moment much the same as being present at the birth of each of my 5 sons 😆 how wrong I was completely under whelmed and to be frank disappointed in the experience.
“all that has been promised about the fast is true except daily weight loss” this is very interesting to me because in general terms I average .5kg loss the longest recorded fast is 382 days and this guy averaged 0.72 pounds loss a day fascinating stuff a good read and great article here.
Enjoy
https://idmprogram.com/the-ancient-secret-of-weight-loss-fasting-part-8/

“It is easier to avoid eating than to stop eating once started”

Peace RT.

Morning/evening all,

My FD went awry yesterday, and having a cold didn’t help. I’ve already done a couple of fasts this week and am planning another one either tomorrow or Saturday so I gave in gracefully and ate sensibly.

I’m going out this evening and will try not to eat before then but when I have a cold I am always ravenous the whole time so I’ll need to be really strong.

Have a good one everybody 😜

Hi Fast Trackers and Hello World (You All know Who You ARE) 😉

1. What do you call a girl with only one leg? -ilene
2.What do you call a man with no legs or arms on your front porch? -Matt
3.What do you call a man with no legs or arms that is in your pool? -Bob
4.Why did the fish get kicked out of school? -he was caught with seaweed
5.A man got in fight with his wife when she asked what was on TV and he said dust.
6.Boys are like parking spaces, the good ones are always taken.
7.If a turtle doesn’t have a shell is it naked or homeless?
8.Why was the energizer bunny arrested? It was charged with battery.
Merry Christmas Fast Trackers Enjoy Your Day and

Have A Happy Weekend All You beautiful Losers 😆
Peace RT

Morning/evening all,

Thanks RT 😆

I went to Christmas at Kew last night which was fab. Beautiful light displays, music, some of their huge and becautiful trees lit from the ground with lights that slowly change colour, and one that was completely covered in tiny white lights. The grand finale was a laser and light show projected across the lake towards one of the huge glass houses.
They had pop-up stall selling mulled wine, mulled cider and rum punch to keep us warm on the way round and various foods on offer. We had some wine but waited to eat until afterwards when we strolled down to Kew Green and went into one of the pubs that serves really good food.There were several groups of people there celebrating Christmas, wearing party hats, exchanging gifts etc and it was a really nice atmosphere. The food was good too.

I’m aiming to fast today but visiting my niece this afternoon and I’m not sure if I’m expected to stay for dinner. If I do, I’ll fast tomorrow instead.

The virus hasn’t developed into a cold but has gone straight to my chest and I have a cough but I don’t feel unwell which is the important thing.
When I got to my friends house yesterday their two boys were on the sofas under blankets. One is just getting over a nasty cold virus and the other one is suffering with a fever and feeling very poorly. They are usually so full of energy and it was a shock to see them both so subdued, but at least they should both be fighting fit by Monday.

Hvae a good one everybody 😜🎄

OMG Happy you can cross over to the dark side 😆 the force is strong in this one
😉 Bless you Happy Merry Christmas
RT

Hi all,

Amazon your visit to Kew sounds magical! I am so pleased your lurgy departed without ruining your Christmas, obviously your immune system is working well.

I am with you on the dark side RT, I am one of Happy’s committed carnivores. I definitely eat less these days, but that is probably because I eat less of everything! I attempted 3 days straight water only this week, but only made it through two properly. Undid the excesses of last weekend away at least! I am a slow learner – it was impossible (for me) to fast whilst in the kitchen most of the day. It was healthy – making salads for the first of the family xmas lunches tomorrow (today now, just after midnight here)and nibbled on carrots, celery (thought of you Amazon!) etc, but once the fast was wrecked I caved and had a small piece of christmas cake for tea! I really need to plan fasts for days away from the kitchen!

I want to wish all the regular visitors here (as RT would say – you know who you are!) a wonderful Christmas and a peaceful and happy New Year. As our society steadily becomes more obsessed with material things and people become busier and busier chasing whatever it is they are chasing, friendship is really something to treasure. We may be cyber friends, but I believe we are still real friends. So many of you have provided just the right ‘pearl’ of wisdom at just the right moment, giving me the encouragement to follow my instincts and make fasting a permanent part of my life. So Thankyou one and all!🎄🎈🎄🎉🎄

hello everyone . just popped in to say to you all to have a brilliant Christmas .
I am still maintaining but wont be on Christmas day it is only one day after all . WELL!! maybe 2 days . I think most of you know Ross was rushed into hospital last week with a suspected heart attack BUT IT WASN@T Thank God . brought a lot of bad memories back when Jim had his . Anyway he is trying hard not to get stressed and he has been cracking jokes today and that’s him being normal . he stayed here a couple of days but I think I was spoiling him too much and he needed to get back to his own space .He lives exactly 5 mins car ride from us so if or when he needs us we will be there in 5 minute A year last month since we lost my lovely Dad and my Mams Birthday would be Christmas BUT they would want us to have a good Christmas and they will be remembered at the table too . Just remember this is A Way Of Life and not a diet AWOL . I always find IF I want to try something and try not to have it I end up binging so have a wee bit of what you fancy . Take care all of you . I haven’t been on here much but I still think of you all as special friends .

Lots of love
Wee xx

Absolutely Wee. All things in moderation.
The lives of our 5:2 mob have taken many twists and turns in the years we’ve been chatting. As Nama says,real friendships have developed as a result of this amazing forum.
I’ve not given up meat, but eat mostly fish or vegatarian these days. I think carefully about the sources of any protein (my son is a vegan) but still eat meat occasionally. This Christmas I cooked corned beef and a duck (we celebrated early) Strangely we both felt the need for fish after eating land based meat. 😊
Thanks for all your witty comments, wisdom and plain common sense. 2017 has been another good year of maintaining.
All the best for continued health. P ☺

Wee,

So glad Ross’s heart is OK. I hope you have a happy Christmas. Those you’ve lost are part of you and live on through you. Physically gone, but always with you.

Barata,

Well it’s Christmas Eve here, just enjoyed baked Camembert as a starter… it is Christmas after all…! Too full for pudding thankfully 😀

There will be bubbly tomorrow. Xmas lunch at friends. Perfect, stress-free, and a clean house to come back to!

Enjoy your day.

RT,

Christmas lunch will be a beef roast. I’ll be thinking of you 😀

Jo,

I hope everything’s OK.

Happy Christmas, one and all.

Merry Christmas all you lovely people . I am not here much but I still consider you all good friends . Have a lovely lovely day all

Wee xx

Welcome back pal and a Merry Christmas xx

Yes it is very good to see you Jojo back on the forum all the best for the festive season and 2018.
Peace RT

Hi Fast Trackers And Hello World (You All know Who You ARE) 😉
Hi Jojo there is a school of thought that suggests extreme intervention (long fast) may well be the trigger for permanent weight loss rather than intermittent fasting over time if we consider that after the 3rd day hunger is no longer a debilitating condition and you do not in fact die 😉 then be your own experiment. Fasting has a number of health benefits, including improved cardiovascular health, reduced cancer risk, gene repair, increased longevity, and dementia prevention.
“There is nothing else you can do to your body that is as powerful as fasting”
Peace RT.

Well I’ve managed to gain nothing over the festive period…so far…so I’m pleased with that. I’ve eaten well, but more mindfully than I would have done a few years ago. Can it finally be true that my eyes are NOT bigger than my stomach…? 😀

And I am now entering a period of pescatarianism… first stop this evening, kale and butter bean pie (OH is away…obviously!). (Sorry RT 😊)

Amazon,

I hope your cold clears up soon. I know there’s never a good time to have a cold…but some times are worse than others.

I find it endlessly interesting that there is so much difference and so much evidence for the pros and cons of any way of life or the composition of what in general is deemed to be a healthy diet and lifestyle.
I stumbled upon this guy Dr John McDougall who’s central food is starch yes you read correct eating ,Beans ,Corn ,Pasta ,Potatoes and Rice add to that vegetables and fruits but does not contain any animal foods or vegetable oils he has a colour picture book and a free pdf file which is here
https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/cpb/
Obviously Happy I was thinking of you immediately I do hope the “Kale and Butter bean pie” hit the spot but this is mind blowing stuff this YouTube video with a Dr Anthony Lim who is a disciple of Dr John McDougall featuring whole food and a plant based diet some extraordinary transformations is contained in this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-u4YnfcTf0
Put that up against the complete opposite here and the meat eaters rejoice
https://zerocarbzen.com/zero-carb/
And this lady Kelly Hogan Williams is just as remarkable
https://zerocarbzen.com/2015/02/26/zero-carb-interview-kelly-williams-hogan/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a6wY_HCjYU
And then we have the Ketogenic eating styles like Butter Bob and Go Keto with Casey all good stuff here.
https://www.youtube.com/user/butterbobbriggs/videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrgWwBHZYlZ9oOs5EoI7CFA

https://caseydurango.com/

Now these guys are all about getting 75/80% of their calories from fat again the complete opposite to Dr John McDougall Dr Alan Goldhamer and Dr Anthony Lim who are big on whole foods and a plant based diet who I would imagine have bugger all in common with the likes of Dr Jeff Volek and Dr Stephen Phinney and Dr Tim Noakes or Dr Eric Westman

And I haven’t even touched on the fasting guru’s as we all here know who they are and what that’s all about but 4 completely different strategies all achieving so much good I find really really interesting that’s some Thursday Thoughts.
Amazon meat free and a pescatarian diet WOW I wish you every and continued success
Enjoy your day fast trackers.
Peace RT

…………or a distant cousin of McDonald 🍔🤣🤣🤣

Morning/evening all,

It’s a lovely morning but I’ve had to cancel my walk as I’m still not feeling well. I had less than 3 hours sleep last night which hasn’t helped 🤬 so have decided to stay home and look at the sunshine from the sofa.

Anyone who still thinks eating lots of carbs/sugar and little fat is the way to go should either get back inside their cave or go to the library and do some serious research.

So there! 😉

Have a good one everybody 😜🎄

Awww Amazon I hope you feel better soon pal . I was just bragging yesterday that I haven’t had a cold since I started 5.2 / Guess what? I have an itchy throat itchy eyes runny nose and sore teeth . Jim is away to bed with a runny nose and a cough . Glad it waited until after Christmas though . Take care everyone .

Wee xx

Hi everyone,

I’m feeling much better today 🙂

I am fasting today and it is my first FD since Christmas. The urge to eat is driving me mad especially as I am not hungry but am being called by the Christmas cake, the unopened chocolates, the cheeseboard and even the cocktail cabinet.
I think it’s called withdrawal 😉

My FD food for the day is a fresh fruit salad made from apple, pear, mandarin, orange, grapes, pomegranate and leftover sanguinello juice. It is really refreshing after eating richer food for several days.

I’ve done well this past week as despite eating and drinking very well, I’ve not gone overboard. I’ve had Christmas pud, cake and mince pies but not all on the same day, and I’ve had lots of lovely meals that have been carefully planned to make the most out of what I bought without wasting anything.
There isn’t anything left that I can’t face looking at/eating again and nothing that needs to be thrown out either which is very pleasing.

I’m now on the countdown to my holiday, 6 weeks and 6 days to ensure my summer clothes fit so there will be lots of fasting going on!

Have a good one everybody 😜🎄

Happy New Year Fast Trackers
All the best for 2018
🍾🎈🎉🎊☮️☮️☮️❣️🍾🍾🌈☀️
Eat Fast & Live Longer
Peace RT