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  • Hello Fast Friends,
    Goodness lots to think about.Jean, rest and get well.
    My big news is that although my weight has stayed the same and so have all of my measurements, except one. My waist is one inch smaller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I have had one fast day this week and although it started well, it went down hill in the evening. I suspect that this inch loss might have more to do with interval training at the gym (run for 20 minutes at an easy pace and then run faster for a lap then rest and repeat 4 times. This week it was 2 laps and I thought I was going to collapse!)
    I am on holiday from work now. So two very strict fast days next week with a swim on each to see if I can get the weight on the move too.I have 5 hours of Ceroc this evening to look forward to, although I can’t see me still on the dance floor at 1 am, but who knows? Long run planned in the sun tomorrow too.

    1″ Annette off your waist really good news…….. Enjoy your night dancing, it’s sounds as a very heavy week ahead..not a holiday!

    X

    Jean, sure hope your cold passes soon. don’t you hate it when the scales go the wrong direction?? even when you know the reason for it. I had one of those weeks too. my weight had gone up about a lb. so I was really careful, a strict fast day and guess what, went up two more lbs. πŸ™ guess I’m paying for my candy gulping day. πŸ™‚ here’s to a much better week.

    Annette, and inch gone!!!! that’s great! sounds like your workouts are really paying off. since I’m about 5 hrs behind you here in the U.S. I’m sure you are on the dance floor having a great time. at least I hope so.

    take care my friends. Phyllis

    Hello, hello! I was away for the weekend, spending time in sunny Dorset eating and drinking lots! It was my mother’s in low 80 th birthday so big family celebration πŸ™‚ funny though I lost a stone and a half since I seen most of the last time nobody mention my weight, everybody was commenting on how “well” I looked hahaha. I was highly disappointed as a dress I was planning to wear was too big on me and had to change my outfit!!! πŸ˜€ how horrible! πŸ˜‰ I’ve made my mind and going to start business management with accounting this Sept, so common girls choose your modules and do it with me so you can support my poor English studies as well as my weight loss πŸ™‚ going to fast tomorrow as I really feel like I need a good detox after eating and drinking like it was going to be my last weekend alive

    Well done, Annette!!! And you too, Issu!!

    I’m coming out of my recent slump & have dropped some gained inches & pounds. Sadly, it’s not coming off as fast as I had hoped or as fast as it usually does….. HOWEVER, I’ve had an amazing week at the gym. It was spring break here so lots of people were gone. This is a busy time of year for my husband, so we stayed put. My kids went camping with my parents for part of the time & the rest we did quick day trips places for fun. Not looking forward to school starting next week!!!

    Anyway, with several people out at the gym we had a new instructor for barre. And I loved her!!! She did different things & they really, really helped & refocused me. I taught 2 classes at the gym this week for an instructor & it has me considering getting certified to teach….

    My degree is in musical theatre. I was a singer/actor/dancer in my past life. I loved every minute of it!!! When I married my husband I gave up my career (I was really burned out on working nights in the theatre, never seeing sunsets & having my days free when so many of my friends worked, etc!!) & moved back to my hometown (also my husband’s hometown but we didn’t know each other growing up!). I had family, but no job, no friends, & no theatre. My performance life came to a halt. I tell all of this because this is when I began gaining weight. Although it was very subtle & I got back down to my “happy” weight right before I got pregnant with my first child. Since then I’ve been up & down, at one point 40 pounds too heavy. {oh my}

    My love for the gym does have me considering getting certified to teach classes. My youngest will start school in the fall. And though I’ve loathed people asking what I will do once she starts school, I now am considering this. So we shall see!!!!!

    Oh my…sorry I rambled, y’all!!!! Tomorrow is a fast day for me. And I’m hoping I’m not as irritable as I have been my last few fast days!!!! Grr!!!! Happy fasting, friends!!

    mommabear, getting certified to teach at the gym seems like a lovely idea, especially since it sounds like something you really enjoy πŸ™‚

    Go for it mommabear! Job in fitness industry will keep you focused and active, gym is a great place to meet new people so be ready to be busy making nee friends!!! πŸ™‚ happy fasting tomorrow, I will think about you when I will get hungry! πŸ˜‰ xx

    Issu, I love my gym friends!!!! We’re like family!! In fact, one of my gym friends is moving several states away. We’re all so sad!! We’ve had several going away parties for her. My husband said yesterday, “She hasn’t moved yet?!?! Good grief! Y’all have been having going away parties for a month!” Ha!!! So true!!!

    Haha Mommabear! That’s no brainer then, You will love your new career. I know what you mean by people ask what you going to do when your youngster will start school. I get constant question when I’m going back to work, even thou my little one is 7 months only. I don’t like talking about my self employment as everybody seems to have a lot of questions then πŸ™‚ once I’m standing on my 2 feet I will be able to answer some of them, but not ready to talk about it yet. Good luck to you on your new adventures, it will be great start to new you!

    oh, issu, bless your heart, having to change because your outfit was too big. πŸ˜‰ good for you!!! good luck with your studies, I think you will have some company, and you all will do great!

    Mommabear, glad you have escaped your slump!! congrats!! sounds like the fitness instructor job would be right up your street! and being a dancer you are made for it! sorry your friend is leaving and you are having to endure all those going away parties. LOL. I loved your ramble!!

    hi franfit, good to ‘see’ you.

    good fasting all. Phyllis

    I have just started and was wondering how much exercise we need to do each day

    Hi Debbie,
    You don’t need to do anything at all, BUT if you increase your physical activity then you will build muscle which burns calories even when you are sitting still. Another point to consider is that if you do more exercise than you are now, you will tone your body and look slimmer.Exercise is only moving more, so walking up stairs rather than using the lift, getting off the bus a stop earlier will all help.Walking is fabulous exercise and you will get fitter and faster the more that you do and less weight that you carry. There is no need to become a gym bunny.I gave up my car a couple of years ago and as I live in a city I can walk.
    I walk and from work= 1.5 hours x 5 days a week=7.5 hours
    I work term time, so when I am on holiday(and it’s warmer) I swim twice a week for 20 lengths and walk there and back(1 hour walking in total). I love dancing so try and go once a week and dance Ceroc for 2 hours.
    My son(24 and 6 ft) runs with me(53 and 5 ft 1). We have ran 3 rather slow half marathons and are now training for a 10K(6 miles)but in order to get faster we are currently doing interval training on the treadmill and lifting a few weights twice a week for about an hour in total.
    I am NOT sporty at all. I just wanted to run/walk/stagger round out local half to see if I could at 52, unfit and overweight.Dancing is my bliss and walking is just what I do to get around. The gym bit is all rather new, so we shall see how that goes.Sorry for the ramble, but is that any help at all?

    I am still thrilled with the inch loss and had a try on of skirts just to check, but I will need to lose a little more to breathe, never mind sit down!Danced for 4 hours and it was great fun, long run abandoned after the afternoon of gardening yesterday,which has given me a sore back…and I am very tired.
    issu. They will all have noticed and all be talking you being much slimmer. I had a lot of ‘you look well’ comments…and quite a few folk never mentioned a word. Upsetting, but they do eventually get round to commenting. I think that it takes 14 lb for anyone to notice the loss, and even then, folk are often so wrapped up in themselves that it takes ages for them to actually say something to your face.So WELL DONE and how thrilling that the planned outfit was too big. Bask in the glow of your fantastic achievement.It is fantastic.
    Jean I hope that you are feeling better.Phyllis, remember this is a marathon and not a sprint.
    mommabear All sounds very exciting. Have you thought of doing some performing as well? Why not see if there are any local productions that you might enjoy?

    Debbie welcome! I don’t really exercise, I walk daily with my dog and my little monkey, and do it mainly because the dog needs exercise πŸ˜€ I jog 2 x week but I started not long ago, and to be honest with you is was side effect of my time spend on this forum πŸ™‚ everybody here put me to shame with their daily exercise routines, walking, swimming,digging gardens, running marathons, sky diving πŸ˜‰ good luck Debbie!

    Oh, mommabear, I’m so envious of your theatre career.

    As a teen I longed to go to drama school, but my school convinced me that it would get me nowhere. Because I wasn’t pretty enough, and worse, because of my voice! It was deep and husky and could be described as a “booze and fags” voice (with the British meaning of “fags”, i.e. cigarettes). Disconcerting and somehow indecent in a fat, bespectacled, little 14-year-old. I wasn’t even allowed to read the lesson at morning prayers, let alone take part in any drama, and on several occasions was taken to one side by teachers and advised “to see a doctor about my throat”.

    Happily, I got plenty of chances to do theatre in adulthood. I happened to hit uni, where I went to study modern languages as a mature student, at a time when there was some very strong drama going on and I was lucky enough to get some great roles. Even on my college reference, they describe me as “an actress of great personality and power”. I went on to join a fringe theatre group after being talent-spotted at a drama workshop, but got fed up with “profit-sharing” when profits amounted – if we were lucky – to Β£5 a head for weeks of rehearsal and a week of performances. I’ve only auditioned twice in my life and passed both, one of them for a highly reputable London drama school that has turned out some well-known names, but no way could I raise the fees. Plus the fact by then I was pushing 40. No regrets, though. I love my work as a freelance translator specialising in arts and media. Translation is a job where age is a distinct advantage and given reasonable health many people continue into their 80s and even 90s. I know I didn’t really start to hit my stride until I turned 60.

    And the voice? I still have it and consider it one of my best features. I’m told I sound a lot like the wonderful Judi Dench and I’d love to believe that’s true.I wonder if any of HER teachers told her to get her throat fixed.

    Your idea of qualifying as a gym instructor sounds great and well worth pursuing. My husband is in the process of doing something very similar, although his subject is Chi Gong/Tai Chi. He started Tai Chi classes as a beginner two years ago, but turned out to be a “natural” and was soon asked by the instructor to coach other beginners in the class, and before long to deputise for her occasionally. He is continuing to practise and is now regularly teaching Chi Gong – a gentler form of exercise – for a charitable organisation, but in order to be allowed to teach in the public, lifelong-learning sector, he must take a formal qualification. He’s now two thirds of the way through. Quite an interesting household with two (very) mature students. Him with his educational theory, me with my art history MA.

    It seems like I’m as good at rambling as you are. But one of the delights of the 5:2 forum is finding common ground with other posters that isn’t necessarily to do with fighting the flab. Have a great weekend.

    Annette I was posting a very long post to you when they decide to switch if off for few hours grrr. Cutting long story short, you better keep trying on those skirts regularly otherwise you may find them too big very soon. I seriously felt robbed of opportunity to wear my dress, as I only had it on once! πŸ™‚ talking about people not saying straight about my weight, well I keep putting few kg then getting active- lose few act. So I think there were just polite. I felt great myself, proud and confident which doesn’t happen too often. Keep on dancing! I use to dance a lot when I was a kid, but passion stayed with me for life. Have a great Sunday!

    Mommabear how is your fast going? Zero kcal for me so far, feeling good to have a break from constant munching… πŸ™‚ Hermaj you are true wonder woman! So many talents! Xx

    Mommabear, go for it , it sounds so good and if you enjoy the gym, it has to be you…

    Hi Debbie, nice to have you on board with us..

    Issu.. Shame about the dress, get the sewing machine out! But nice you are going down in size!

    Glad on your thoughts Phyllis, people match people, it gives you encouragement.

    Cold still hanging about, a bit better yesterday then back last night and bad again today. A lovely Mothers Day treat yesterday, (nightmare for fasting but ignore it) daughter was up at 6.30am to make me and Hubby a lovely English high tea..everything home made, white and brown bread made first then made into finger sandwiches, ham, turkey and egg and cress, quiche. Lovely cakes, paverlova with fresh cream and strawberries, butterfly buns, scones with cream and strawberries, almond tarts. A lovely bottle of wine.
    I thought it was such a lovely thought, and time consuming…it was really lovely, she said have a day off the fasting. We have been thoughtful eating today!

    I have three new dresses which I have altered down twice since July last year, I have today altered them down for the third time! They have worked well and when the sun decides to come out I will be ready!
    X

    Jean, if I only could saw I would do it! I grown up in Era of disposable cloths, they don’t teach you how to saw anymore πŸ™ thank goodness for eBay! Reading about your tea made me hungry! That is a great effort, fair play to your daughter! I wouldn’t dream of fasting with that feast on the table myself πŸ™‚ I have homemade thai green curry cooked for me tonight, zero noodles will come and play today πŸ™‚ hope my hubby is not stuck at work to long, I could do with eating Wright now! πŸ™‚ xxx

    Debbie, welcome!!

    Hermaj, we are kindred spirits!! Ha! How wonderful! A shame that you were discouraged because of your voice. While reading that I too thought of Judi Dench and her wonderful husky voice. It’s such a trademark!!! I have quite a sense of humor & a rapier wit and always wanted to play the comedic sidekicks. I was always cast in the ingenue role…not that I’m complaining at all…but my best friend & biggest rival in college productions was always trying to avoid the sidekick role yet we were always cast as ingenue & sidekick. I guess we always want what we don’t have!! Ha! And I love that you’re a translator!! How awesome. I love languages & had to study many different ones when I studied opera. I’ve always been fascinated by them. My dad, brother, & I speak French – although they speak it almost fluently but I don’t get the opportunity to use it much, so much of it is lost! I know some Spanish & Italian as well but have been considering brushing up on my French again!!!

    I still sing, in church & with my family as we all play different instruments, etc. There’s a city choral group here that is wonderful. I used to sing with them until the weekly practice night interfered with another commitment. Before I had my kids, I was asked to teach drama at a private school here. I enjoyed it & loved teaching. I was even asked to teach at the university here as well. But the babies kept coming & the hours weren’t conducive to a Momma’s schedule.

    Oh my…. Enough rambling!!!!

    Issu, my fast day is going ok. I tried something different today & made a smoothie, packed with fruit & protein. I usually don’t have sugar on a fast day, but there is a smidge in my protein powder. Oh well! I’m at 391 calories for the day. Right now I feel good…but it’s only 2:40 in the afternoon. Ha!!! I’ve been getting so irritable about 7 at night. We’ll see how I do today. Hope you are getting on well!! With the time difference you may be finished with yours!

    Well done, annette, an inch off the waist is a major achievement.

    I agree, issu, it is annoying when people tell you you’re “looking well” when you have been working your butt off to lose weight. At least it’s not like it is, or at least used to be, in Spain. While living and working there I lost a lot of weight and was getting close to optimum. Imagine my dismay when people told me “EstΓ‘s mΓ‘s gorda” – you’re fatter! It was actually meant as a compliment, since in that society plumpness equated with prosperity and beauty.
    I hope you enjoyed your Thai green curry, a big favourite of mine too. Recently when I went to make our usual green fish curry, I found I was out of the green sauce so used the red and it was every bit as good.

    mommabear, I got to play a couple of comic roles too and got very good at prat-falling. Another thing we have in common – teaching. I got a post-grad qualification to teach French and Spanish and, would you believe, beginners’ Latin, which I did for a total of nearly 5 years. Hope you get through the rest of your fast day without too much grief.

    issu, I’ve just seen your sweet post about my “many talents”. Thank you.
    Sure, there are a small number of things I’m good at, but a whole lot more simple things at which I’m complete rubbish: I’m discalculic (the mathematical equivalent of dyslexic), I can’t drive, I can’t sew or do any sort of work demanding manual skills, I’m very clumsy (the buzz word for that is now dyspraxic) I’m also terribly, terribly shy and refuse to go to parties. So, a bit of a mess really, but a happy mess with some lovely family and friends right across the age range.

    What an interesting bunch of ladies! I wish we could all meet and have a good chat.

    I ate rather a lot of sticky toffee pudding and ice cream and then there was the wine and chocolates for Mothers Day…all after the roast. I had a dreadful nights sleep and just keep eating so no fasting for me today.Back is still sore from the gardening but now there are some little vegetables in along with some lettuce.I have this rather romantic vision of popping out to the garden to cut my lettuce for the fast day in a couple of months time.

    Off for a wander round the charity shops to see what there might be for my summer wardrobe and then have a look at the real shops.
    Have a lovely day everyone.

    Hi, just popping in to wish everyone a great week! Phyllis

    Cup of coffee and good old chat would be great, I agree Annette πŸ™‚ How did a shopping trip go? @Hermaj my curry was lush! Hubby made his own paste and I was gobsmacked how easy it is to make. Will be on the menu regularly now I think! I make my own teriyaki sauce, masala paste, pesto and green curry will also never come from the jar anymore. Even my 7 months old loved it ( minus the chilli of course) cooking is a one thing I’m good at, and since my better half said we eat too much meat I experiment lots with fresh, healthy food. I know he secretly misses good old potatoes and mush sometimes πŸ™‚ I had second fast today, I desperately try too go back to my weight I achieved before the big weekend. Two days in the row are tough I was physically hungry by 3 pm, and had to eat at 4 but it worked out great, as I could go for a run just after putting little man to bed. It was sunny and warm, so I couldn’t resist. I’m looking forward tomorrow… Will start my day with poached egg, or two πŸ™‚

    Hi Phyllis! πŸ™‚

    Mommabear how did smoothie experiment worked out? I thought I try 2 consecutive days and gosh it was harder then I would imagine πŸ™‚ not in a rush to do it again! πŸ™‚ xxx

    Oh, I agree, Annette & issu!! What fun it would be to meet in “real life” & have a chat. I imagine we could all sit and talk over coffee…& possibly get kicked out of some quaint little coffee shop for being too noisy!! I imagine lots of boisterous laughter…but perhaps that’s just my imagination….. πŸ˜‰ Instead, I’ll curl up with coffee & my iPad as I rock on my deck & watch my kids swing in the backyard.

    A rainy day has cleared into a beautiful, sunny afternoon. Earlier I was shoveling dirt into my garden (filling sinkholes from winter erosion!!), listening to thunder & then the bottom fell out! (That’s Southern slang for the heavens opened & it started pouring.) I had just filled the last hole & was putting up the wheelbarrow. Hopefully soon I can start planting. Although storms are predicted the next few days…

    Issu, my smoothie worked well. I don’t think I was quite as hungry. Although I had saved some calories & had some grapes & a slice of parmesan while the family was chowing down on dinner. But this morning I was absolutely exhausted & really struggled at the gym during barre class. Does anyone else struggle with exhaustion the day after a fast?

    And issu, you’re a better woman than I to fast consecutive days. Have mercy! I can’t do it!!

    Enough time sitting. My 4 year old is obsessed with picking flowers. She’s been constantly sniffing my beautiful hyacinths & is now picking leaves off a flowering bush…she’s going to pick it bald! Ha!

    I tried 2 consecutive days and failed all except one. I found it really really hard.
    Shopping trip was spent with a friend having coffee, rather than looking for clothes.Planning a fast day tomorrow and Thursday.

    Ha mommabear. I think that it would be a very noisy coffee with lots of laughter. I always go to bed much earlier on a fast day as I am more tired. I don’t think that I am more tired after a fast day, but I am certainly more hungry as the day wears on. How is the hyacinth? Bald?
    I am defending the vegetables from slugs, not sure who is going to win. But with my new cloches, they are safe from caterpillars as the butterflies cannot lay their eggs on the leaves.I bought lettuce from the garden centre only to discover that I could my more for much less in the supermarket as a ‘living salad’ for the windowsill. I am going to get some to put in the garden and see what happens.
    Summer dresses(perfect for ceroc) that were a little loose, I can’t do up around the bust, until that inch goes.So frustrating.
    Fasting today.

    Hello from sunny Wales! πŸ™‚

    I had a busy day/ but not productive at all ( do you know that type of day? ) very frustrating! Had a chat with my boss, about possibility of returning to work- which only left me want to bang some heads together. I had to ask questions for 2 hours, just so I could get one clear answer!!! basically I’ve been told that either I’m coming back on full time or there is no work for me, but because i work for big company they can say it straight, so took lots of persistence on my behalf to get to those two options.

    I also been ‘horrible’ to them, and said that in that case, I don’t know if I coming back, or when πŸ˜› have to give them 2 weeks notice, so still have 4 months to think about it (even thou I wont get payed)left them in the pickle, coz boss was sure I’ll come back before the summer, when business really needs me…

    Made appointment with the accountant today, guess what I’m doing this evening? Starring at the books, working out what is coming in, what out. yeah! πŸ˜‰

    ok rumble over!

    my plan was to fast 2 days, have a normal day two more fast and weekend off- i don’t like to fast on the weekends. But I don’t think I am made for it πŸ˜€ like to challenge myself, but that is hardcore even for me. I was pleased with myself for sticking to it, for whole 2 days anyway, and I did manage to drop back to weight before the weekend (+ half a pound, but who counts halves anyway? πŸ˜‰ )

    Annette you need to leave jar with beer (lager) in the garden, slugs and snails love it, and go there. They don’t like gravel so maybe put some around your veg? slug pallets? and dont worry about the dresses, they will be loose in no time πŸ™‚

    mommabear… my 4 (well almost 5 now) picked anything which was in my garden last year. This year he is into growing everything himself, so that stage wont stay for ages.

    don’t have a plan what to cook today, so better head off to the kitchen before hungry men comes in πŸ˜‰

    ps. Annette don’t read, as you are fasting today πŸ˜‰ for lunch I had lovely veg in tom sauce left over from last night. I thought: gonna have a pasta with it, even that I had plenty on my plate. I didn’t eat the pasta at the end, but why on earth if anything is in the sauce my brain is screaming CARBS! don’t have a problem with skipping carbs when i have (meat+veg, salad, or soup) so whats wrong with the sauce?

    ok gonna go now! xxxx

    Oh. Y’all. You won’t believe this!!!! It’s going to sound made up, but it’s not!! This morning at the gym I was talking with our instructor about my teaching for her last week while she was gone. She said I need to get certified & she’ll start using me as a sub for other classes…& give me my own classes this fall!!! I was like, WHAT?!? I hadn’t said a word to anyone about my thoughts except you guys! Ha!!! Then out of the blue today she said that. She wants me to look into it all & get back with her. I didn’t even know that she is the coordinator of all the instructors!! She sets the times, classes, etc.

    And get this….one time she’s considering for me to teach this fall is the VERY class time that my friend & I have wanted all along!! It’s right after school starts for our kids & there’s never been a class at that time. Can you believe it???

    I’m happy dancing. And speaking of dancing, Annette…last night I watched a YouTube video of ceroc. I loved it!!! You go, girl!!!! So fun!!

    Issu, speaking of food…I had lunch with a friend today at a quaint little cafe. I usually have soup & salad there for under 500 calories. I’m fasting tomorrow & fasted dinner last night. So I splurged & had half a panini of mozzarella, marinara, & tomatoes. Oh my. Soooo good. It was only 370 calories for the half. Not bad!

    Hi Mommabear,

    What Great News, go for it girl….starting in the fall and fits in with school times. It’s always a nightmare to find a job what fits in with the children, no child care.

    The panini sounds good too…

    Good Luck to your new adventure.
    Jean x

    Short, fat lady -not THAT fat anymore, just pleasantly plump – jumps up and down punching the air at mommabear’s great news. A bit of telepathy going on between you and the instructor, I suspect.
    BTW, I had to smile at her saying you need to get “certified”. On this side of the Atlantic getting certified means someone has sent for the men in white coats to come and take you to a place of safety. Something I’ve escaped so far, although there have been moments…

    Mommabear that’s absolutely fantastic news!!!! dancing with you!!!!! πŸ˜€

    You are obviously good at it and she could see a potential, so grab occasion with both hands and get your ass in gear πŸ˜‰ get all the papers ready asap, and go, go, go!!!!!

    I came to realization yesterday I may postpone my dream about self employment, and go back to work for 2 more years. Will do my uni course never mind what! Working full time, be a mum, and a student will be difficult, but looking at the numbers depressed me last night. We would struggle financially big time, and I would add a big pressure on myself. Stress doesn’t do much good to my self steam ( packet of chocolate buttons gone again last night!) I’m not sure if I have what it takes, to start business quite this moment, and really don’t want to scrape my pockets to put food on the table, dress my children, and constantly worry about it. I like my job, doesn’t pay a fortune and I’m not learning much… but i think I need to concentrate on one thing at the time. β€œTake up one idea. Make that one idea your life – think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success.” 2 years… I’m going to fill it with study and working on self believe, am I giving up ladies?

    fasting today…

    of I go to make myself feel better and have a mug of (black) coffee! I actually enjoy it now πŸ˜€

    have a good day!

    mommabear big hip hip hooray to you again! πŸ™‚ your story made me smile, so go out there and show them what you made of! xxx

    issu,

    It’s great that you are determined to do a uni course. Do choose a subject that interests you and that you know you’ll enjoy, and not necessarily one that will get you a better job.

    We had the case in our family of my nephew who was bullied by his parents into enrolling for a science-based degree when he was definitely – like me – a humanities person, simply because it would do more for the Gross Domestic Product, i.e. he would get a better job and probably reflect better on them. My husband has suggested, tongue in cheek, that they were afraid he would end up like me, i.e. an arty-farty who prefers happiness to having loads of money and isn’t interested in flaunting status or possessions. Just as well when one is freelance! The poor kid dropped out halfway through the first term. The last straw came when someone stole his beloved mountain bike.

    I’d say postpone any final decision on how and where you want to work and at what, until you are at least part of the way through your degree. I say that because during the course what you are learning may lead you towards a completely new area of interest, which might then lead to a different career, self-employed or as an employee.

    Good luck, anyway. It won’t necessarily be easy. There are still times during my current MA course that I wish I was stacking shelves in Sainsbury’s instead of bending my brain, but I’m still hanging on in there and most of the time loving it. As I’m sure you will too.

    Annette: I happened upon your post weeks ago and was inspired and carried on, so I quickly left this page feeling good for the whole day. It never left me and I wanted to re-read it, but good gracious, I couldn’t find it and forgot WHERE this was posted.

    This morning, while researching Fast Diet recipes for dinner inspirations, I FOUND YOU AGAIN! Now, I’m pasting this on my computer for days I need pick-me-ups.

    Thank you for your positive view and re-enforcing my belief that this program does work. I haven’t lost 23 lbs. yet, but 14 lbs. is good even though I’ve been on it since last March. I know my rate of weight loss is due to not worked out in a year, but eventually, I know I’ll pick up my workout routines where I left off and my progress will pick up a bit of speed.

    Take care.

    hermaj I had a VERY GOOD thinking session last few days, and I realized that I love working with people, and that what I was always good at. I work good in the team and always end up leading it at the end, so business management would be great, I’m looking forward it. Accounting… well I don’t think I would do it for living, but my own household would benefit for sure- so that I’m doing for myself. Beauty of this course is that as you said I can end up working somewhere fascinating. Council, charity, banking, even care so I keep my mind open. as for self employment- I would love to not have a boss πŸ˜€ but… I’m not sure if I am self disciplined enough ( i have lots of busy but not productive days:)), I can sell myself time to time, but doing it on daily basic scares the hell out of me. And in order to achieve in business, you have to do it all the time. Maybe I just didn’t come across anything I believe 100% yet? my business plan wasn’t fascinating either, something I know works, but i would not roll over with happiness doing anyway πŸ˜€ so i stick to what I know I’m good at, and better myself. following Einsteins advice: β€œYou have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.”

    Hello all! I just finished reading the entire thread (took me awhile!) and wanted to stop being a lurker and join in. I originally started the 5:2 for lent and this is the fourth week I have really done it. I am down about four pounds and have not done measurements yet because I am bad at math but can tell things might start fitting a little better. Nothing super dramatic though. I am positive that this is going to last me far past Easter and will in fact become a way of life. I really just love how I feel.

    Now that I have read the whole thread I feel like I have a group of fast friends and it is fun to check in on your progress πŸ™‚ I will say though you all have me dreading Christmas a little bit that seemed like a rough time.

    I do have a question I have been able to stick to this because I basically eat the same thing every fast day :

    Grapefruit for breakfast – 84 calories
    California roll for lunch – 274 calories
    Miracle noodles with fat free/low sodium chicken broth and mushrooms, tomatoes,bacon and basil for dinner – 100 calories
    458 calories

    Plus every fast day I “neg” my calories by burning the amount that I eat on the elliptical. So far it is going well and I am managing but I worry I might need a bit more variety, are there any go tos that you all use?

    Thank you Annette for starting the thread and for all you who share your stories and struggles. It is super inspiring!

    Hi Thatgirl! Welcome, welcome, welcome! πŸ™‚

    there is no rules other then eat 500 kcal on your fasting day, and know you TDEE.i would say if you getting tired of eating same thing on your fast, have a look how you can replace it (eg. carrots instead grapefruit/ soup for lunch, and a banana for dinner) but… do it on you normal day! πŸ™‚ decide what you going to have on next fast day and stick to it. There is nothing wrong by eating same thing thou, lots of people find it easiest way, and if works for you then you don’t have to change it. Well done on your achievements, you should be proud of yourself, and don’t worry about Christmas… We all have to survive Easter first πŸ˜€

    issu,

    Maybe I’ve missed it but it seems as though you have already decided on your degree subject. Am I right? Or, of course,if you are going to do an OU degree, I think you can make it up of a variety of modules of your own choice. Is that what you are going to do?

    You say you don’t have enough self-discipline to be your own boss. I am the laziest person on the planet BUT I never miss a deadline. Not because I’m virtuous, but because I’m paranoid. I always think if I miss a deadline, the client will tell everyone else so I’ll never work again. Or if it’s for a uni assignment, I feel sure I’ll be sent to the head of department and politely asked to leave. So maybe you could choose a job where there are deadlines to be met. You’ll find that you have to meet deadlines during your degree course, so that will be good practice.

    I am a night owl and find it difficult to wake up before 10 a.m. (which was fatal when I was employed by others), and when I do I feel so bad it’s a choice of suicide or murder! But I work very well in the evening. So if a job is due for delivery at, say, 9 a.m. on Tuesday, the client has it by 9 p.m. latest on Monday evening.

    It’s easy now that everything is sent electronically. Back in the day when you had to deliver hard copy, some poor couriers sent to pick stuff up from me were frightened out of their wits by the dishevelled witch in a dressing gown who answered the front door.

    ahhh! I forgot to share with you that my progress in fasting inspired both my sister and my mum! Both have a great success in they weight loss, and very happy with the way they feel, and progress. I was actually gobsmacked when my mum joined the forces as I would never expect her to be on any diet (she was slim all her life, till she hit menopause and put good few stones on then) She told me today that in a week she lost 2 pounds and was very proud of herself! πŸ™‚ sister doing EOD as she only had 4 pounds to loose, and like me hates to count calories on her off days. She is almost there- planning to do 5:2/6:1 as a maintenance program. I’m happy that at least family is on my side, and they are being supportive and will not question my way of living in the future. I’m raising glass of water to that (sorry is my fasting day and i used all my calories today πŸ˜‰ )

    hermaj I am totally with you, dead lines is the way to go! πŸ™‚ when i was translating I never missed a day. Worked nights sometimes, to catch up on the days I’ve chose to sun bath on the beach instead working (it happened to be a hot summer) but I always got there on time. My postman comes around at 9 am and he thinks I live in my dressing gown πŸ˜€ Yes, I’ve chosen business and management already, and not only for the money bit. I know I can find a job which will suit me just fine, not necessarily in office environment. I am dead excited, and can wait for September, so many modules I can choose from!!!!! πŸ™‚

    I am relived in the way I am going back to work. My original plan was to work for myself (just so I can escape routine) but then my dear friend just popped question why don’t you go to Uni? (he actually suggested I come and work with him in the council πŸ™‚ ) before I looked at education in UK I needed to do my A levels again, as my didn’t count then. But now law changed and my education is transferable and Open Uni doesn’t need it anyway I though ‘this is my chance’.

    I feel that starting a business was my way of trying to better myself, but now I have better picture of how I can achieve it. I may not stay in the job for whole 2 years, I will actively look for something else. But uni gives me something to focus on now.

    freelance work sound like lots of fun! not too easy to come across thou πŸ™‚
    I have a great hobby- I make my own organic beauty products. Soaps/ body lotions/lip balms/ bath bombs. I can only support my hobby and try to make it a business with income to pay for needed licence (so I can sell it to public) I never had an idea of how, I can make it big enough to earn a decent living, but I’m sure I will learn new tricks at Uni. If I don’t return to work now, I will have to do something else, and fast to make money, as you say, is sad when one is only working for money. I feel good, even that I had to admit to the fact that my business plan sucks, and is unrealistic πŸ˜€ one more lesson learned, better sooner then later I suppose! πŸ™‚ xxx

    Hello @etherial!

    welcome! sorry that we are completely out of topic at the moment πŸ™‚
    You are right that Annette is truly inspiring woman! Where is she today I wonder? ;)probably defending the vegetables from slugs (is never ending job that is πŸ™‚ ) or of dancing again! πŸ™‚ have a good day, and don’t be shy to change the topic to it’s original πŸ˜€ xxx

    Oh hermaj, I LOVED your enthusiasm for me. And your fist bumping dance. Ha. In the US we don’t necessarily say “certified” to mean crazy, we say “certifiable”. Ha!!!! Means the same thing!! So yes….me getting certified might just mean certifiable. Ha!

    Today was a fast day for me. I started the day just fine…but then my Dad (who recently started playing tennis again) wanted to meet to play a couple sets of tennis. Afterwards I was famished. I started with my 500 calories but that quickly doubled. So while I stayed under my BMR, I ended the day at about 1000 calories. {sigh}

    I’m not too upset with myself. It’s almost my time of the month!!! Normally I’d throw in an extra fast day…but since I’ll soon be hormonal I think I’ll let it slide this week. Hope everyone else is doing better than I!! Happy fasting tomorrow for all you Thursday fasters.

    Hey Annette, I’m sure you’ve tried it. But I’ve been told cornmeal helps with slugs. That’s a big issue here as well, but so far I haven’t had any issues in my garden at this house.

    I turn my back for a day….and miss all these posts!
    mommabear Congratulations on the new job. It sounds perfect for you and the family.
    hermajtomomi Great advice re the uni course for issu.I completely agree. I loved the description of you punching the air after mommabears great job news too.
    Welcome Thatgirl For me what I eat on a fast day depends on how warm it is. I am a soup girl when it’s chilly, and salad with prawns or grilled salmon when it’s warmer.I generally eat the same thing largely because I don’t have to think about it what I am going to eat and can make sure that I always have the food in the house.It must have taken you ages to read the whole thread, that’s commitment.As issu says, don’t worry about Christmas, we have Easter to get through first!
    etherial Welcome.Thank you for your lovely comments, but I am rather baffled that anyone would find me inspirational.I did indeed lose 23 lb and 23 inches, put on 10lb over December and now find myself with a total loss of 15 lb BUT 24 inches!I can only assume that the inch loss is a combination of more muscle from more running and now the gym sessions(trying to get faster running)but also more visceral fat disappearing from fasting.I wonder if my current weight is a result of more muscle from more training/running. So I am going to focus on inch loss and try not to get fed up when the scales are not budging.Well done on your loss of 14 lb. It is a fantastic achievement and no matter that it has taken a while. I do believe that a slow weight loss is a good thing, it takes time to change attitude to food and for me, fasting has made me rethink my relationship with food and the quantities that I thought were reasonable.I am delighted with my change in body shape, fitness and new wardrobe(mainly from charity shops).
    I shall have to catch up with everyone else later, off out now.

    Part 2…
    issu, I was clearing out the food cupboards and tidying up through the rain in the morning, out in the garden all afternoon and at the gym in the evening.It seems a waste of beer/lager but slug pellets are working so far.
    It sounds as if you have a great plan for the course and for the immediate future. Are you going to study with the OU? We ate an awful lot of pasta when a deadline was due, there were tears(mine) and the boys just rolled their eyes and patiently proof read my essays or sorted out any IT issues/panics etc.I meet some really interesting eclectic folk via the OU at tutorials and they often made me think about something in a completely different way, which was inspiring and often fun.My big advice would be menu plan like your life depends on it, organize a place away from the family where you can work/dream/panic and talk to the family about what it will mean for them. I don’t think that it is easy living with a student, who is also trying to combine work and family life with studying.It is hard, but I don’t regret it for a moment. I learned so much about me and just what I could achieve, which I never thought possible.Just don’t expect to do all that you do now when you study. For me ironing is something that I rarely do now. I can spend the time more productively on other things.

    mommabear Don’t stress about the fast day, life happens. I was going to do today, but family commitments mean that it makes far more sense to shunt it to Saturday.I am not sure what cornmeal is but I shall see if the net will clarify that for me.

    hermajtomoni you write so beautifully that I can ‘see’ what you are describing. A joy.

    Well done to all those fasting today. I am having salad for lunch, convinced that there might be some sun under the cloud……then out to the garden centre to buy tomatoes and cucumbers to grow-never tried those before, more strawberry plants and anything else that looks fun to have a go at growing.

    issu,

    If anyone knows what she’s talking about on the subject of studying with the OU and keeping everything else afloat, it’s annette, who has been there and done it all. I agree with every word she says.

    Unless you yourself are IT-savvy, it is so useful, indeed essential, to have a friendly neighbourhood tekky, who is also a good proofreader – in annette’s case her sons, in mine my Other Half – to help you sort out computer problems and read your essays before you submit them.

    She’s also right about not being able to do as many chores as you did pre-study. I’m convinced that I went to uni in the first place to get out of the housework!
    And doing post-grad means I have the excuse to do even less of it. I’m a good cook, I keep the laundry up to date, the loo clean and food shopping well-organised – with help from hubby – , but the rest…? Didn’t someone once say that if you didn’t dust for a year you ceased to notice it?

    Last question. You’ve told us English isn’t your first language. I’d love to know what is.

    annette, thank you for your kind words about my writing. They actually brought a lump to my throat. You’re no mean writer yourself, BTW.

    hermajtomomi,

    I think that it was Quentin Crisp who said ‘after a year without dusting, it doesn’t get any worse’.
    I am glad that my comments pleased you. Thank you for your kind comments.

    I do also believe that housework will expand to fill your time and I would always rather be out in the garden!I do an awful lot of looking and thinking with a cup of tea. Now that some of the crops are planted, there is not an awful lot left for me to do outside, so I shall have to turn my attention inside.

    The advantages of studying over the winter are that the weather is often poor. I have struggled to study for exams or finish essays when the weather is glorious. Although I have sat out in the garden with books on my lap, there has been very little reading or retention when I have. Note taking is possible, but not much else.

    (Sigh) I should be somewhere else chatting about the diet…I suppose that subject’s long gone.

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