Morning Fast Clubbers!

Jade – Sounds like you had a really successful day. That always feels so good. Hopefully this “way of eating” will be the key you’ve been looking for.

Camille – Do you know why it needs to be warm water?

Mel – Are you fasting today?

I find my most successful FDs are the days I don’t give myself any options about what to eat. Like today, I woke up knowing I will not be eating until dinner and that will be an egg with tablespoon of spicy cheese & bacon crumbles and yogurt for “dessert”. I will have to make dinner for my hubby but I can’t have any of it.

Kitty – I’m praying for you. I hope your FD flies by in a blur of success. Getting the treats out of the house should help.

Try to remember how much better healthy foods can make you feel. As much as I love me some pancakes, they have no nutritional value and once the carb rush wears off – talk about feeling drained. Tell your MIL to bring you a green smoothie next time. Your body will thank you.

Hold tight to the Lard Baton Fasters
Jade, Kitty, Mel – Let’s kick some Kraken A$$

Thank you for all of your lovely messages of support for Sunday, they are much appreciated.I can’t run a full 13.1 miles, so will be walking some of it.

I notice on some of the other threads that they all donate their lost weight to making something, like a small elephant for example, which someone names. I wonder if it might help you all to focus on building something together and take the pressure off the personal goals.We could build a reindeer for Christmas, for example. What do you think?

Thanks Kitty. I will think of you all cheering me on when I flag.

I didn’t explain it very well kitty, but yes every lb lost could go towards the weight of perhaps a baby reindeer, the adult males look huge!I rather like the idea of a group goal as a focus.Perhaps those that want to take part can donate the lbs as they lose them and someone keeps a running total and gives monthly updates on how far the baby reindeer is growing?

I always plan the day before a FD what I am going to eat.My favourites are prawns and salad, or a piece of salmon sprinkled with chilli flakes and cooked in a foil parcel with either cooked peas or salad. Soup is a really useful when it is cool. Really simple/cheap/low calorie to make your own too and then freeze it in portions.Mind you I still miss dunking toast or crusty bread in it!

I blew my FD. I stopped to get some things for the party, not all of them made it home. :'( I thought it would be better to get them on a FD, you know; the whole “I’m not eating anything until dinner”. So much for my good intentions & strength of will.

I’m going to log it all into MFP and assess the damage.

Good job Kitty & Jade!

Oh Spring, I laughed out loud at the self-flagellation aisle of the Sabotage Supermarket (wow that is hard to type). HAHAHA me normal… I white-knuckled the wheel today driving past a Krispy Kreme. I think I almost hallucinated. I’m desperate to get a handle on my cravings and appetite, and to not constantly think about food.

Michel, try again tomorrow. Or make your goal TDEE as you plan the party. That’s a huge step for any of us. Darn that party-planning Krakzilla! One of my worst temptations is being surrounded by many potential samples of fun food.

OK, Club, let’s build some good habits, flip off Krakzilla, and start feeding that reindeer. 🙂

Hi Always, welcome to the forum! You sound just like us not that long ago. We are veteran bingers (obviously, who else joins a thread that says “hi we’re dysfunctional”) but we’re finding they happen far less often. They still happen, but more likely our FUs are just plain overeating. That’s actually progress, choosing consciously to eat instead of a mindless binge. Distinguishing hunger over appetite. Baby steps….

So 5:2 and exercise…. It’s a mind/body split until you get used to it. We are no longer afraid of hunger (right, Club??). If ignored, it often goes away, but it isn’t going to kill us in one day. At first you may feel weak, so take it easy, but eventually it’s like any other day. I jog on FDs without a problem, though I suggest you schedule exercise toward the end of the day, before dinner, so that you have a satisfying meal after. Just stay hydrated!

You can have anything you want on FDs, I’ve had a wine and pizza dinner, so protein shakes are fine if you can find one that doesn’t gobble the whole day’s calories. Or if that’s how you want to spend the 500 cals, that’s fine too but the day gets long! I honestly considered having a Krispy Kreme yesterday but for the thought I’d have only 100 cals left 🙁 not to mention a raging insulin spike a/k/a the Rise of Krakzilla. So experiment and see what suits you. This plan is so flexible, it’s just math (hat tip to Annette). I’m personally working on the psychology part so the math isn’t so hard!

Scroll through the threads here and across the board for useful tips. Everyone is encouraging and we all have a common goal, so as Kitty said a win for one is a win for all. You can always tell when I’m on a FD, I’m here several times passing the time and whining 🙂

Wow it’s Thursday already? A regular day for me, but NO BREAKFAST lest I awaken the morning beast. Thank heavens for coffee. How is everyone? xx jade

I’m working late tonight so went to get some dinner from sainsburys to break my olive fast. Picked up a multipacket of chocolate brioches, bar of white chocolate, BLT, cheese sandwich, houmous, doritoes. So far, so normal. But then ladies and gentlemen, I looked up and what should I see but Comespring hovering over me and flashing a big sign saying “Warning, warning, self-flagellation aisle”.

I PUT IT ALL DOWN AND PICKED UP A BROCCOLI, EDAMAME BEAN AND BLACK BARLEY SALAD AND SOME NECTARINES.

Thanks, Comespring.

Mcca – holy hell, that sounds harsh!! Even though there is the language barrier, that still must have been damn hard to hear. But then, if you needed a kick up the derrière, then that would certainly do it. I’m like you, in that I hide when I feel I’m failing, which is the opposite of what we should do – we are so lucky to have this support network of like minded souls and each and every one of us can identify and understand where you are coming from. Good luck for the weigh in….hope it’s not as bad as you fear.
Melb – by gum, you are certainly setting an example for us all…a huge WELL DONE for not caving in the supermarket! So many delicious goodies, but you chose the healthy options. My hero.
Spring, you have coined a brilliant term with the Self flagellation supermarket! I know we can all relate to that, why oh why must we beat ourselves up so much? You’re working hard and trying out new techniques of fasting, and I hope they are working for you.
Jade – you bodyswerved Krispy Kreme? I think we should have a parade in your honour. Amazing, well done, we are so proud!
Michel – don’t worry about the FUFD, I bet you were still under TDEE. That’s still a win! Remember when we couldn’t even do that….you have come a long way and are doing brilliantly. Pool party!! Come on, not long to go!
Annette – that salmon thing sounds lovely, I adore seafood and here in the Outer Hebrides we have it in abundance. Must increase my intake. Any more FD meal ideas?
Alwaysdieting – hello and welcome to our happy gang. Jade answered your questions very well, but I’ll add a little if I may – remember on a fast day everything that goes in your gob counts. Protein shakes, drinks, little nibbles here and there….every calorie counts. My Fitness Pal is a very good app that most of us here use to log what we eat, I’m having a love/hate relationship with it at the moment though and am only using it on fast days. Time will tell if this is a bad idea! Anyway, feel free to join in and contribute to the madness. We will have your back on the bad days, and celebrate the good days.

And me, well I did end up eating cereal at 3am on my planned B2b FDs therefore mucking it all up, but I’ve decided just to carry on like it never happened and fast today anyway. No point doing my usual “oh well I’ve FU now”. Strength!

Ah, I was doing so well…..until that blasted salted caramel cake threw itself at me. I tried, dear fasters, I tried to deflect it with the lard baton…but it was powerful and flew straight into my gob. Why oh why do well meaning people bring me such things? I mean, it’s a very kind gesture, but I have zero willpower when things are right under my nose.
Hella good cake though 😀

Hello my lovelies!!! Well, I was Kraken-fodder yesterday (well, not entirely, it was okay until about 8:30pm but after that, as some wise woman on here said, best to draw a veil on proceedings…). Still, fasting has benefits for health even if it is not helping me in losing weight and I’ll take that thanks.

Welcome Always, great to have your company – exercising 6 days a week is a great achievement!
Lovely to see you mcca – tough love indeed but maybe I’d snap out of my denial (its not just a river in Egypt apparently) and get going again if someone was equally frank with me? It will be great to have you back on board, or on the wagon, or the track or whatever metaphor we’re using at the moment… 😉

Hi Queen – keep posting no matter what happens – I get a bit spooked when everyone is too normal, makes me want to start a new thread called “But I’m a REAL binger…” 😉 I love to share in the triumphs as they are so hard won but for me there is still a massive battle going on and it helps enormously that others understand.

Way to go with the white knuckling past KK Jade (interesting initials there, Krispy Kreme or Kraken Kingdom?) and Melb I had to laugh that I inspired you to go for the healthy shopping basket – I could do with some of that myself!!! But then would that also be self-flagellaton or just encouraging myself? My problem has always been a ridiculous rebellious streak where my instinct is to do the opposite of what I’m told. Maybe I should tell myself to just get out there and chow down.

Kitty, I want to go out and get salted caramel cake, it sounds AMAZING! You should not feel bad about that lapse.

Good luck with the race annette!

Okay, now I’m using the forum to ramble rather than finish the last minute jobs and get packing. Hopefully I’ll have some reliable Wi-Fi when I’m away otherwise see you on the other side. Spring xx

Spring – I hear you my friend…..I’m so delighted for everyone when I read the posts about becoming normal, but at the same time it makes me obsess about why it’s not happening for me. Note to self – HALT does not work for me, because there is an extra category which trumps all – G for GREEDY. And even I stop and think about it before I cram that massive pice of cake in my gob, I still decide I want it because I’m greedy. Not lonely, not bored, not tired, not hungry….just want the darn cake. Honest, but true. Anyway, just wanted to wish you well on your travels. Safe trip, we are here for you on your return.

Jade – redefining normal is a very good idea…remember normal used to be 4x donuts in the car. Not snacking between meals is an achievement and you should be proud of that. Cake for dinner, ah I am the queen of that one. I’ll just have cake for dinner and not have any proper meals. Then I stay within TDEE, albeit unhealthily. I know that for the same amount of calories I could have a chicken curry or whatever, but for me it’s worth the calories.
Controlling appetite…I wish I could. And I can have the most amazing FD or TDEE day with stunning willpower, then 3am rolls around and before I know it I’m up to my nose in cake again. Seriously, I think I should just have a nosebag fitted, like a horse. Get hubby to fill it with cake now and again, I can just lie here in my bed and nosh away. Growing steadily bigger until I have to be cut out of my house by the fire brigade wielding chainsaws.

(It’s 5am UK time and I’ve just hoovered up another two pieces of that gorgeous cake. Hence so much rambling about cake. God, I love cake. On a sugar high and happy. God help me when I hit the comedown….expect maudlin self deprecating posts about how much I hate my lardy self.)

Misfit islander #2 signing off. Blessings to you all xx

Omg what is it about cake – I thought my thing was doughnuts. Well ok I guess that is fried cake. So kitty you and I are on the cake shift or effing Cake Island because here I am at 1 a.m. right beside you. Not only eating cake but feeding it to hubs. The cake must die. It is rather good though. xxx

Newsflash. I AM THE SAME WEIGHT!!!!! Ok so obviously I am both pleased (and annoyed at myself for being pleased and defining my self worth by the number on the scale, but counter balancing this with self awareness, ha ha!) and also pissed because I know what that lady said is true – I AM FATTER. So thinking about it I can only conclude that previously when I was this weight I was also exercising 3-4 times a week, that some of my muscle must have gone and been replaced by fat (as helpfully pointed out and itemized…)

And also I did check it 5 times…. the scales sometimes play mind games where they try to tease me with a really low score first time round and then I get on again immediately and it’s 6 lbs heavier…

Anyhow, after saying I was going to re-commit.. and then not re-committing.. I am now committing to re-committing…

Kitty – salted caramel anything is absolute nectar to me. I wouldn’t be able to resist that either. My problem is the big G too…

Spring & Queen – I totally get spooked when everyone is ‘normal’. I start panicking and thinking I am the only one left who has no control around food…

Always – a belated welcome! The first few weeks of fasting are HARD. Soup and protein my girl. Comfort to know it does get easier, the physical side of it anyway. Mentally I always want to eat more! 🙂

xx

Mcca, hello & as much as I hate to admit it, there have been many times ive actually be chuffed to bits to be the same weight! Do you try leaning more on your heels? I find that may make a difference with the number on the scales. I am actually dreading the next time I weigh myself as im am really trying this time (again)& if the scales are not much different I may just give up & decide that maybe I could just get used to life as a over 40’s, over weight alcoholic! Im afraid the whole muscle vs fat thing doesn’t cut it when you get on the scales & there is no drop in number, even if you do have more muscle & less fat & yes I am totally aware of difference between 1kg of fat & 1kg of muscle, but having spent many years trying to convince myself its not good, I want to be lighter not just fit.

Seriously tho, stick at it, be rest assured I am definitely not normal & food is in my every thought.

Did I just waffle a bit there? Yes, I think I did. sorry..

Mcca – you are the same weight, that is wonderful!! At least you don’t have to lose a bunch to get back to your previous weight….So this is a good place to start again! Like Always, I would be delighted if I stood on the scale after a heifer chow down. I’m currently 4lbs up and annoyed as hell about it. So rejoice that YOU GOT AWAY WITH IT!!

Spring. – enjoy your fish and chips (Scots call that a fish supper) you have worked hard for it. Almost time to go isn’t it? Enjoy!!!

Always – I agree with Jade, you’re gonna fit in here just fine. And there have been weeks where I have lost weight despite having cake only days…but I wouldn’t recommend it because it’s too easy to just get carried away into sheer gluttony. It only works if you meticulously count calories, and I don’t know about you, but that does my head in. If I’m gonna eat cake, then I want it to be uninhibited chow freedom. Not to be restricted. But then that’s my problem…you and me both Jade dear….I have no off switch when it comes to the sugary delights.

And sista Jade – there is a time in the future when we will no longer crave cake and donuts and sugary deliciousness. We will be in control, and eat mindfully and healthily. I hope and pray it happens, but until it does, I got your back.

Now where is our Michel? Hugs to you, and Melb, and Queen.
Today has been a FU day for sure, I have finished the cake but you know what? Not beating myself up. It was there, I wanted it, I had it. Salad for dinner methinks, and a non FUFD tomorrow!
Anyone else braving a FD tomorrow? Or Sunday?

Ah Michel, the sweetie kraken got you. You have always been there to pull me out of my self destructive spirals and now it’s my turn to help you – your pool party is round the corner, and you want to look good in your swimmies. You have come so far and done sooooo well…..remember your lowest ever Saturday weight not that long ago?All the sweeties are gone now and tomorrow is a new day.
Wanna fast with me tomorrow? It’ll help undo some of the damage we have done over the last few days…..
Sometimes the lard baton is no match for the Great Sugar Kraken.

Do you know, I think this forum (and its only been 2 days) is far more inspiring than any blooming – PT / Challenge / Pills / Diets / etc than I have ever been involved with as you all seem honest about how bloody hard it is & how ashamed / annoyed we get after indulgence.
So, WOOOOOO BLOODY WHOOOOO I managed a FD 420 cals according to mfp, while I may gloat & do a happy dance to myself, the FD isn’t so much the issue (although I did think about food constantly) its today that will kill me as I will be so pleased with yesterdays efforts, that I will want to ‘reward’ myself & binge later today. I did think about 2 days FD but I haven’t got that will power yet, it will be enough for me not to have a cheeky wine (well, it is Saturday)
Do you feel more ’empowered’ having a few FD together? Theres no way I could try the 18 / 6 jade, htf did you manage that? I’d need to be locked in a padded cell to manage 6 days FD.
So, happy weekend to you all, I’ve been to the gym so that gives me a pass for choc cake right? ha..
PS, I am far too busy to count calories or macros, get fed up using my phone to input into MFP. Its hard enough to not revolve my day around food, let alone spend precious time putting it all into a app. That’s my excuse anyway..

Annette – best of luck tomorrow in the HM! Keep tossing us the pearls of wisdom, there is no denying the math.

I am still managing no breakfast but yesterday was a bit snacky. On a weekend trip now so the scales can’t find me. 🙂

Always, congrats on nailing the FD! I wouldn’t try 2 in a row, and I can promise everyone I have never done 6 HA. 18:6 is basically skipping breakfast. so an 18-hr fasting window from dinner to lunch the next day. I’m not too strict about it, the numbers don’t magically do anything, I.e. no one can eat like like wild boar for 6 hrs and lose weight. I’m trying to see if it will help control my appetite. It does help a lot to skip breakfast. I am with you on MFP, it was making me obsessive. The scales will let me know in a few days….

Michel you are in the party zone. Aim for control but have fun, 5:2 is a way of life but not your life. One week and you’re easily back on track.

Happy weekend all – coffee hour here on Misfit Island EDT mmmmm. xx

Just wrote a huge post and lost it, grr.
So hi everyone, hope you’re all well. Congrats on successful fasting to Always.
Decided to fast tomorrow instead. In an M.E. Slump and need more nourishment than 500 calories can offer…..
Enjoy the weekend.

Jade, skipping breakfast is supposed to be the worst thing, do you do that most days? Do you not get hungry mid morning? (sorry for the questions)
Only ‘rewarded’ myself with 2 glasses of wine & 6 biscuits, which I know is still not being very good, but usually I’d finish the bottle & the packet!
Annette, you are exactly right, but easier said than done eh? is this your first HM? Enjoy, it is addictive

It was a brutal run. Very hot with wall to wall sunshine and no breeze-grim. I got round in 1 piece uninjured and wasn’t last! I was also 12 minutes faster than I thought I might be, so very pleased.

I ate my own body weight in jelly beans and had a sports drink along the way. When we finished I drank the pint of milk, attempted a pain chocolat, but really couldn’t face anything else. I have managed the rest of the pain chocolat, a banana and some pringles. Hopefully I will feel better(splitting headache) after the roast dinner that will be followed by ice cream.

I earned 1,500 calories on that hard,hot and brutal run/walk. A tube of pringles is 1000 calories…where is the justice? Very sore abdominal muscles, fully expecting to wake up and find a 6 pack!

Congratulations annette!!! Hope you are not too sore in the morning and can enjoy basking in sense of achievement!

Always yes we are all told never skip breakfast blah blah blah but we are also told don’t eat fat, don’t eat carbs, don’t eat sugar, do eat fat, do eat carbs, eat six meals a day, don’t eat after 8pm, don’t mix carbs and protein, always have protein with a meal, don’t exercise on an empty stomach, do exercise on an empty stomach etc etc etc.

Horses for courses. It would be logically impossible to do everything we are told as so much of it is contradictory, and I can’t help noticing that all this advice doesn’t seem to be helping with the obesity crisis! You have to find what works for you. For me, I have found it easiest to skip breakfast and lunch on weekdays regardless of whether fasting or not. Far easier for me to eat nothing than to eat a small amount. Other people find they cannot function without breakfast. We are all different, part of this process is about us learning to listen to our bodies and find this stuff out.

Hi Fast Club!

Well I like nothing more than to be predictable… after my surprise ‘same weight’ weigh in, I then congratulated myself with 2 days of non-MFP recorded eating. 1st day was kind of fine, we had a dinner party and I was pretty pleased with how I ate (kind of ‘normally’). 2nd day fell off the rails and day 3 was about a 700 cal FD so I was expecting to be the same or heavier… I am 0.8lbs DOWN!!! WHOO-HOO! Just got to rein in the impulse to have a ‘reward’ binge day today (yes Always – I completely know what that is!). Thanks for all the encouragement everyone! Really appreciate it.

Congratulations Annette! What an achievement! But how scary just how few cals that burns?!?!?!?

Always – leaning on your heels to make the scales lighter – believe me, I do every trick in the book to get a favorable weigh in too! 🙂

Jade – are you doing 5:2 AND also 18:6 or just 18:6? I agree re missing breakfast – for me it’s a trigger, but impossible for me the day after a fast, so I was wondering if you are doing both fasting + 18:6, how you are managing with missing breakfast the day after a fast day?

Kitty – 4lbs is achievable. You can drop that in about 2 weeks. I find once the gain is north of about 6 it starts to feel insurmountable (when it gets to 7, forget it!!!) 🙂 And re your cake, at least you ENJOYED it. I so often eat stuff and don’t enjoy it at all. I’m sure the Normal Eating book would applaud you enjoying the food rather than shoving it down and not tasting it.

Michel – I’ve so often been in that post-sugar-binge place… your blood sugar is so low and you are so full of self-loathing the only thing that makes sense is to self-medicate with more sugar…. Really it is OK, you’ve done it, it WILL happen again but you WILL be ok and pick yourself up and carry on. I’ve been doing this for nearly a year now and as a sugar-addicted binger I can tell you that 5:2 is the only thing I have ever stuck to for more than a month. I truly believe it helps. Don’t get me wrong, I can still go on a massive sugar-bender but they are less massive than they used to be, and no longer daily, which is a big help 🙂