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  • The croissants are the very best in the world, made by a local baker who happens to be French. To think that used to have one twice a week to celebrate a FD! How bonkers was that??????

    It was the first time that I had worked out each meal for the day, so I knew exactly what I did or rather didn’t have to spare. The new challenge is that I have meals provided at work, so need to make careful choices at work and then at home. I also need to make sure that I give myself smaller portions to myself as I am rather smaller than my young men.

    That is a great analogy-money in the bank. Might just steal that!

    Afternoon Clubbers!

    Just finished my 2 egg veggie omelette w/ a little sausage and 2 T low cal cheese. Very tasty & filling.
    So why am I sitting here and all I can think about is something sweet. I’m so craving today, yesterday was fine. This is when I start thinking about my next treat/binge. Delayed Gratification. I can’t have it today, so when can I and what will it be. I don’t dream in pieces, I dream in boxes. I don’t just see it, I also smell & taste it.
    So the question becomes: how do I control the thoughts/images ruining thru my head? How do I focus on negatives after a binge instead of the orgasmic beginning. I can hear the standard reply “just don’t think about it” or distract yourself. Neither is very helpful at the moment.
    Since starting this post; I’ve done some dishes, 2 loads of laundry, cleaned up cat throw-up (that helped for awhile) and read an article.
    Maybe I should pull out a hypnosis CD, at least I would be focusing on something besides food.

    I’m committed to using MFP to track my consumption and stay in TDEE and No Snacking!

    Saw this on another thread:
    “May the fast be with you”.

    Hi michel, good work on the omelette!

    I agree simply saying “don’t think about it” or worse “eat some nuts and a carrot Instead” is really of no help for me when I am craving.

    When I have been most successful at battling cravings it has been to imagine eating the food in all its detail rather than trying to stop myself thinking about it. Then I tell myself I have already eaten whatever it is I am craving.

    I am pretty sure I read a study recently where people who imagined eating chocolate ate less than those who tried to stop themselves thinking about it, because they have already got a lot of the “sensory” pleasure they would have from the real thing.

    So my advice would be to accept you are not going to eat it but to imagine eating it over and over and over again it as much detail as you can. Just don’t let yourself get into the car and buy anything!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33690211
    Voila! By Michael Moseley himself in fact

    Melb: Thanks so much for the suggestion and the article. I will give it a read and pray it works.

    OH is in the kitchen “snacking” on chips & hummus. Grrrr! At least it’s not sweet!

    Stay strong & fast on!

    OMG, the cat vomit — dog poop here, which is also a great appetite depressant.

    Unfortunately, I found that only after I got home. I confess, I had my doughnut in the car. I wanted that lusty business one more time. (It wasn’t “the” doughnut, but close enough.) However, after about 3 bites, the thrill was over, and I mushed the rest up in the bag and it’s now in the garbage with yesterday’s dog hair πŸ™‚ Yum! Thank heavens for pets to distract us from ourselves.

    So I’m tagging myself for 250 cals. Told myself in the car “you know you’re going to have to tell them.” HA, but as much as I’ve been mentally drooling about it, I’m glad I had it and enjoyed it without turning into a lunatic. Subconsciously I think I was doing that chocolate experiment! And now the hole in my appetite’s heart seems to have closed. Back to no snacking or eating alone, because by no means do I consider myself cured!!

    Strength and big hugs to you all for being here this weekend!
    xx jade

    Amazing job throwing that doughnut away jade!! And nice work with the dog hair!!!

    I’m heading to bed now after a lovely but exhausting weekend with friends staying -lots of food but none of it secret- and I finally got round to weighing myself, 1kilo down never to be regained!
    Tick tick tick tick boom! <- the sound of our success!
    Fast day tomorrow, go team!

    Jade: Wow! Who have you become? Only eating half? Crazy good job! That is what “normal” people can do.

    Melb: Congrats on not secretly eating. For me that would be a huge accomplishment.

    I tried “mentally eating” my donuts. I guess it worked; I have been able to forget them for s couple of hours.

    I got hungry & had a 200 cal snack; hummus, mini peppers & 1/2 serving of chips. Shared w/ hubby, so not in secret and not just because I wanted to eat “something”.

    Stay strong & keep the “fast”!

    Michel, hear hear for a healthy snack with the OH! If we can act normal and be mindful at the same time, these things we see as deviations from our stated goals are kept in their place as no big deal. They lack the power they once had.

    I was rereading your post about the food pusher at work. Shocked to admit I’ve done that with hubs, just to keep from eating the food myself. Yikes. I wonder if your guy at work was doing the same? Or maybe he’s just a manipulative a**hole. Congrats for pushing back.

    Yay, MelB! Kick that kilo out the door and slam it shut. Nicely done, and with company no less — now you’re all stoked and ready to kick another one to the curb!

    So just to be clear about my doughnut escapade, I don’t recommend it, in fact I feel a little dumb for driving 10 miles for a doughnut that wasn’t all that great. But I feel good that the doughnut was NOT all that great. I mean, it was delicious, but not like sex-in-the-car delicious. I guess that’s progress? Anyway, playing with matches is dangerous, and I could’ve just been lucky today. (But TAKE THAT, doughnut kraken, you lose this round.)

    xx jade

    Feeling Pleased πŸ™‚
    Thanks to the support of the Fast Club, I had my 1st full weekend at TDEE. I managed to enter all my food in MFP, no cheats. Huge success. Fingers crossed; this may be the 1st weekend I don’t gain all my losses from last week back. Really tired of the roller coaster.

    I will be taking up the lard baton tomorrow for a FD.

    Good luck to those fasting before me on the other side of the pond. Watch out for kraken; they are sneaky.

    Wow! Well done Fast Friends. Very very proud of you all.
    Now that you have tried the donut and found that it wasn’t all that great, it will have far less of a ‘pull’ next time. Well done on stopping after a few bites and then throwing it away Jade.
    Melb100 well done with the weight loss despite visitors and no secret eating-huge achievement.
    MichellMB well done with such a huge success.

    Onwards and downwards fast friends……

    Another hour to go until lunchtime … I almost caved and went out to buy one of those devilish pecan maple plaits, but saw this thread open in my tabs and hardened my resolve. Green tea and an imaginary pastry it is!

    We are mightier than the kraken!

    Melb: Good job! Way to stay the course & lose a little more. I told ya they were sneaky.

    Danish pastry pecan plait= 424 calories.
    Well done you!

    Wow! Way to save a FD

    I love them too. But it would have been a very long FD!

    If it has flaky pastry then it has loads of butter, so loads of calories.

    LOL imaginary pastries all around on this fast day! Thanks for the laugh, Mel – you’re right Annette, I wish I’d had those calories for something else. Thinking “small treats” for the rest of my nonFDs. Happy Monday and a great start to the week everyone. xxx

    And of course there are 9 million doughnuts here at school today. AND a free lunch. Did I get transferred to Texas or something?? I’m not used to all these workplace kraken. Holding onto vivid images of Fast Club walking past pastries….thanks for the strength – we can do it. xx

    Morning Clubbers!

    Best Mon weight in 6 weeks! Woot! Thanks Annette, you’re “just don’t do it” attitude strengthens my resolve.

    Spent yesterday slowly eating donuts & ice cream (mentally that is). So far no cravings today.

    Jade: You have my sympathies. It does sound like one of my days.
    My tricks: Don’t be around them alone and keep telling yourself “DONUTS WILL NOT GET ME WHERE I WANT TO GO”.
    Besides it won’t be good after the first 2 bites and Not Worth the calories.

    You are stronger than the donut kraken!

    You can do it Jade!! For some reason I am imagining the centre of those doughnuts filled with yesterday’s dog hair and they suddenly sound less appealing.

    I have a different work issue at the moment which is that I am working in a room by myself all day, hence no one to see me scoff, and the vending machine/ pastry shop is so close… pretty sure I would not have put on half of this weight if I had shared an office and known people were watching!

    But ho hum, such is life. Too late to change the past – time to work on changing the future instead! It’s almost 4:30 here and I have got through on coffee and green tea, only a little while longer to go……. courgetti and some kind of delicious salad for tea…..

    Ok clubbers, I have strength to spare today (for some crazy reason) so I’m sending some out to you guys.

    Your health (weight loss) is much more important than the food that is tempting you.

    TODAY IS A FD- walk away from the table and move all food to a inaccessible place….

    You can do this!
    Stay strong & committed!

    A delicious meal of courgetti, green beans and red pesto, PLUS salad of olives, feta, seeds, tomato, spinach, peppers, spring onion and puy lentils (and garlic bread to keep him upstairs happy). Fruit pie for him and sugar free jelly for me with some berries and WE ARE WINNING. Not just a fast day but a fast day filled with health and deliciousness.

    Hope you are all having a good day my fasters!

    Melb that dinner sounds scrumptious! Well planned and executed πŸ™‚

    Michel, thanks for the extra strength – I felt it! Just skipped the lunch rather than be kraken bait. A nice plus was not logging anything into MFP.

    Light dinner of beef and roasted veggies, sooo delicious, and $$ left for some yogurt before bedtime. I supose that’s a snack but I have to triage my own rules a bit on a FD. I’m being careful to include protein, whether snack or meal. As tasty as that doughnut was yesterday, I felt so unbalanced afterward I wanted to go bite a cow.

    What champs we are to land on Monday without a caboose of weekend excess. My weigh in was the best Monday so far, too. Ha, something about “weekend” slipped by me when I was adding up 5:2, which as Annette pointed out is 7 whole days. Smh. Still I somehow lost weight, but now I actually feel better. (I’m pretty sure she is a wizard. We’ve NEVER been this disciplined.) Keep strong Fast Club, we can do this one week at a time.
    xxxxx jade

    Great job Clubbers!
    I’m super impressed with your ability to “walk by” today’s temptations.

    I also managed a successful fast day. I sailed through my team meeting at lunch, with only a wistful look at the garlic bread.

    Tomorrow’s going to be my hard day. I have breakfast, lunch and birthday cake! I thought about calling in sick, just to avoid all the Kraken. I think fasting would be easier than trying to control and stay in TDEE.

    Here’s to a successful fast day!

    Hey that mental eating really works. The mental doughnut I had tonight was better than the one I had yesterday.
    Annnnd…I just ran over the post-dinner kraken with my bicycle. I’m going to miss summer ….
    We’re on fire this week – stay strong for Tuesday! xx

    Jade: Great job! Way to kick some serious kraken butt. You are gonna rock Saturdays weigh in.

    All calories count towards TDEE! Stay mindful!

    I’m NOT a breakfast eater…….I will stay in my TDEE!

    Hey sounds like the Fast Club is turning into a bunch of Normal People! Well done to everyone’s successes.

    Unfortunately I have been reading my updates in between mouthfuls of .. well .. basically whatever I can find, in quantity…. Seriously off the Fast or Normal Waggon

    Anyhow am fasting today and have re-done my TDEE after all this Annette-inspired ‘Maths For Weight Loss’ (title of your new book I have decided, Annette!).

    Mcca: Good to hear from you! Plenty of room here in the wagon. Good luck on your FD today.

    The breakfast is all gone and I managed to avoid having any. Woot! 1 kraken down, 2 to go. Motivated by this morning’s weigh in, looking good for Sat.

    So far the imaginary eating is working. After a couple of really good donuts, I start to imagine the greasy/slick feel you get w/ an old, cold Krispy Kreme. Kind of turns my stomach.

    Good luck to us all…….feel the Fast Force!

    Yay, Michel – slay that dragon, you have the power! Glad it was a fine time at the scale this morning. You are blazing this week. Your tag on the previous post reminded me to log my calcium chew – but still just 439 yesterday. Whew.

    Hey mcca, I’m just pretending to be normal. It’s confusing! FDs I get, but those other 5 days are weird. I feel robotic, checking with MFP to see if I’m hungry or not (because I can always eat). But if I don’t check, I will usually exceed tdee. Every day. NOT normal.

    The one-by-one approach to cutting bad habits does work, though in fits and starts. When I cut out snacking between meals, I overate at meals–such as by adding a doughnut, which didn’t taste nearly as good surrounded by real food. Not to be deterred, I ate one by itself, Sunday, but felt unbalanced (because my insulin resistance had lowered?). I wanted to either jump in a sugar lake or have a porterhouse as an antidote, but MFP said “well NOW you have to eat a light dinner, hahaha.” So I was whiny and actually mad AT THE DOUGHNUT for not being so orgasmic that a light dinner was an acceptable penance. But the real progress was that it wasn’t orgasmic, so I guess I’m no longer a doughnut perv? That has to be a step toward normal.

    Good luck with your FD. You can do it! Right, “Maths for Weight Loss” what could be easier? And when Annette says it’s not food, it’s habits, I think she is onto something more important even than calories.
    xxx jade

    Brilliant everyone!
    Oh the irony, I am rubbish at maths and wish I was a wizard!

    Just see what you can achieve when you put your mind to it?

    It struck me that it isn’t food that makes us fat, but habits. Change the habits and lose weight, provided that we each stay below our TDEE. The way you guys are going you will all have to redo your TDEE at the weekend to keep pace with the shrinkage!

    I am really looking forward to see what the scales and the tape measure shows you all on Saturday. Glad to hear that you are feeling much better without the snacks too. Losing weight isn’t magic is it? It is just maths.

    yeah, she is a wizard πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

    All right. I confess, I am a wizard and as such I already know that you will be pleased with this weeks little experiment.

    Can’t wait ti hear all about it!

    I was doing so good and then……
    So, I did a drive by on the lunch. I took a look and left w/ nothing. Went back to my desk and imagined eating chips & salsa. I waited for everyone to go thru the line, giving me time to decide exactly what I wanted. It all worked great until I went back in & there was a big box of still warm chocolate chip cookies that had just been delivered. Needless to say I was eating before any logical thoughts had even been formed. I could have eaten more, no one was around, but I did manage to eventually stop.
    I also had a nice light salad with tomatoes, 1/4 C chicken and about 1/4 C alvacado. And on the bright side, I was able to pass on the taco shell, the chips & salsa, the tortilla, the cheese and the dressing. MFP says I’m already close to TDEE.

    I’m hoping if I imagine eating the cake over & over, I will be able to skip having any. Keep your fingers crossed.

    Hope everyone is doing better than I am.

    No drama and don’t panic. You did stop before your TDEE, so well done.

    Lets look on the positive. You did stop. Well done you. Lesson learned and move on.

    Tomorrow is another day with a new TDEE. Just got to wait until then now…..

    Michel are you sure you didn’t overcharge yourself for those cookies? it doesn’t seem possible that you were close to tdee. But…better than any short-term calorie count is that you stopped! Seriously awesome – you thought about it and stopped. You regained control. Darn kraken, no fair shooting us with warm cookies.

    Yep, tomorrow is another day and we’re getting better at this each week. I can’t believe how normal we’re all acting. I managed tdee today, no huge temptations around. If I had to engage the warm cookie (or heaven forbid, warm KK) kraken, it would be a lot harder. xx jade

    Seriously y’all, do you remember just a few short weeks ago everyone high-fiving me for eating just two Krispy Kremes? HA. Similar stories all over back then. Now we’re walking past pastry windows, putting down cookies, choosing hummus and yogurt and sugar-free jellies. Naturally we’re still annoyed with ourselves for not being perfect, but the change is happening. I am telling you, it’s wizardry straight out of Hogwarts.
    xx

    My spell is working….

    Another fast day today… SUPER tired and finding it a bit hard to concentrate at work but have faced the vending machine kraken and come out with a diet coke.

    I also changed my work pc password a few days ago to something relevant (like “no bingeing” but obviously not that as who knows what experts hackers you all are…). It seems to be making me more accountable and less likely to fall into one of those blank binge states where you conveniently forget all your knowledge and motivation. Much harder to eat those delicious pastries and then at the same time type “no bingeing” (or whatever the password.). Might be worth a try for those who also struggle at work.

    Got the idea from this article
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mauricio-estrella/how-a-password-changed-my-life_b_5567161.html

    I suspect that diet coke isn’t helping with the lack of concentration or the tiredness either.It may not have sugar in it, but it will have sweeteners which will also keep you searching for sweet things to satisfy the craving. Try drinking water instead, you will feel better and the cravings will subside making it easier to cope with any food cravings. These canned drinks are full of chemicals too. Best avoided.

    Hopping on that fast train…. I can hear the Slavonic March in my head. It’s tough living on just calories burned, WTF I need to be 8 feet tall.

    Great tip on the password idea, Melb. I’ve sometimes been profane at the irritation of it all, though must admit, it DID feel good typing FU2@sshole every time. But I’m sure a positive message will be more helpful πŸ™‚ Something like “Bikinis&P@aris”? Hey and nice job dodging that vending machine kraken. I agree DCs aren’t health food, but I haven’t been able to let go of my crystal light, just yet. I hate even saying that with a wizard in our midst, no doubt the world supply of artificial sugar will soon vanish. πŸ™‚

    Good luck today, everyone! This has been an eye opener – needless to say I’ve spent way too little time up to this point with our pal TDEE. xx jade

    Thanks Annette – one step at a time, is my motto! There are times in a girl’s life when water sadly does not cut it! Diet coke is my emergency, last-ditch kraken defense, maybe one a month if that. I agree not ideal but certainly better than delicious pastries!! πŸ™‚

    Good luck and fierce resolve to all the fasters!

    ps Annette if I come in to work next week to find the Diet Coke mysteriously absent from the vending machine then I will know who to blame….. πŸ™‚

    Morning Fasters!

    Yesterday was a huge FU. I had an incident at work that resulted in a mini explosion and left me extremely wound up for the rest of the day. Tasmanian Devil comes to mind. I was a little out of control & so was my eating.

    I’m fasting with y’all today and I will be in control.
    Let’s do this!

    Morning Michel!

    Ah, the tasmanian devil, it comes to us all one day. Good to gets yours over and done with and back on the horse. My sister turned up unexpectedly last night and we went out for food to a place that it turned out ONLY served ginormous cheese boards (I swear, I did not know in advance!!!) (The smoked cheese and rhubarb chutney was particularly good). Hence today’s repentance fast.

    I am at 4 o’cock peak snack time but fending it off valiantly. I am going straight from work to my sign language class this evening so I may well get through the whole day without eating at all – wouldn’t that be a turn up!!

    We can so do this!

    Hello all Bingers

    I too find the non fast days the problem. Fast days are written in stone and achievable. When you have to choose what to eat and try to keep within your TDEE when there is so many tempting things our there is difficult. Feeling sorry for myself as going to my son’s for tea and cake tonight and am worrying how I will resist eating too much. I know his wife will have gone to a lot of trouble. Am keeping telling myself I am not a dustbin. Lol

    Topsy

    Topsy I am about to go to my class so I hand you the baton of resistance. I am sure a white lie about upset stomach will be perfectly acceptable and hopefully not questioned too much! Good luck and stay strong!! m x

    Melb: Not eating all day would be huge. I’ve managed only 300 cal before (all protein) but I’ve never tried going to bed totally empty.

    Topsy: Welcome! I agree with you, sometimes NFDs are harder than FDs. This is not supposed to be a diet, but for some of us “normal” eating always exceeds TDEE.

    Holding fast to the lard baton. So far I’ve used it to beat off both the cookie & the cake kraken. Darn things were hiding in the kitchen waiting for me. Screw them–I’m fasting!

    TopsT Just bear in mind that cake might be around 600 calories for a slice, that might help you just to have one piece which would be the calorie equivalent of a chicken Korma with rice. Well, that way of thinking has helped me anyway. Cake will keep and you don’t have to eat it. You could explain to your daughter in law that you are cutting down and wonderful though her cake is, you can only have 1 piece. Then next time, she will provide less. Either way, you are not responsible for eating it all. You are not a dustbin and I am sure that your health is more important than cake.

    I find that I compare what 1 thing is to another and that helps me chose how to spend those calories, for example, cake versus curry. I think that it takes practice and although I am getting better, it is quite an education. As this is a way of life and if I am going to maintain the weight/size when I reach my personal target, then I am going to have to make these choices anyway, so best start now. Sad, but true.

    If I could remove these fizzy cans of chemicals that keep us searching for the next sugar hit(whether they are diet or not) I would. They are keeping us hooked. Ditch the Crystal Light Jade, have you seen what is in it?

    It is really hard when something happens that upsets and angers…leading to a lot of consumption that is never enjoyed. I am finding that it is getting less and less, although I have yet to find the perfect solution that doesn’t involve food. I think that I am more aware that scoffing in a rage doesn’t make me feel any better. I used to think it did, but when I don’t even savor the food as it goes in….all quite a waste when I have inhaled a million calories and I am still upset/angry.

    I am still searching for a solution. My slender friend cannot eat when upset. How weird is that?

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