hi all.

i have the book but i am on holiday and it is not! there will be weeks before i can see it, lol.

so, you eat normally (in my case slightly low carb) then for 2 days you don’t, right? you eat 25% of basal cals. no sugar, no high GI stuff? the normal things?

i have been reading a lot of jason fung recently and it all makes a load of sense. i did atkins but i didn’t lose at all! over 9 weeks because you have to eat up to 1800 with a 1500 lowest, and it was too much! also you spend your entire life counting weighing measuring in the kitchen and have no social life at all. it’s really just a corporation now to sell products. bob would roll his eyes.

i am on some meds and in fact that is why i am doing this, as they lowered my metabolism and made me insulin resistant and and caused a 40 pound weight gain over the last year or so (no, i didn’t eat or move differently… its a bummer) so i thought this was a gentle way of veering into fung’s world. it certainly doesn’t sound too hard (she says now!)

what sort of results are people getting? if you do 4:3 will you lose more? a pound a week after not eating for two of those days barely at all seems not very much???

is the idea that fasting doesn’t lower your metabolism cos you are chopping and changing so much? cos i know most diets that go under about 17/1800cals say ‘you mustn’t eat less or you’ll go into starvation mode and never lose it cos your metabolism will slow down’ hence why WW etc don’t work. i have done so many diets and they worked but they got harder and harder, i had to eat less and less to lose. in the end i had to stop as it was making me ill.

at this point i feel desperate.

so… can you help me please?
sorry for so many questions, i just wanna get on the sofa with a cuppa and consider with facts at my hands.then go for it (i hope)

all the best, moi

hi there

re, ”There is so much information out there and it can be so confusing. I feel a person should start with the basics, do them properly and give them a couple of months to work before trying anything else. As for your metabolism, it is what it is and you really can’t change it much by what or how much you eat. So why worry about it?”

like a weight off my shoulders. he atkins crew are obsessed with slowing your metabolism, claiming its why WW doesn’t work etc…stating the meds i must take have ruined my metabolism irreversibly- scared me to death.

turns out its a load of whiney bull-‘crop!’

i could just hug ya

”if you are putting on weight you are eating more than you need to and probably eating the wrong foods as well.”

i think i explained i gained weight because of my now former meds. it was not ‘an excuse’
i ate 1500 and ran, too.
the meds alter your hormonal and brain chemistry and slow down the metabolism and make you insulin resistant. sadly.
its why over 3/4 of the patients who have to take these drugs are obese.

and starvation mode has for 30 years been explained to me as not eating for 4 hours or more or eating lower than 1500 calories daily will make your fight or flight mode kick in and the body hang onto all the fat it can. so thank you for that correction.

i did a 5 month supervised fast before. it was great. i lost 56 pounds and kept them off for so far 9 years.

cheers

a nutritional advisor from atkins told me mustn’t skip any of y three meals cos my metabolism would slow and i would go into starvation mode and be able to eat less and less its why i stopped.also cos its like a sect. and nobody sustains atkins ever cos its totally anti social.
and you spend most of your time in the kitchen! lol
it turns out to be the focal point of your like not a life enhancing part of the way to lose weight. thats why i think 5 ,2 or 4 ,3 will be better for me. cos i do actually have a life! as i am sure you do.
are you female

i hope lots of people read that because it’s a much under considered point. it is the answer to the question, will i pull this off for life, or will it be a quick fix?

i have heard water fasting cures migraines and i have them about 75% my life. i have one now. day 3 or 4. typically they have me in agony in bed with the lights off vomiting for 8-10 days. i would like water fasting to cure me of that and my chronic constipation please!

I am desperate to get say a months fasts done so i can stop feeling quite as unwell and scared!

xx

my god. culpable. and on a public forum where there are impressionable people. FDA approved?

see? i could have been influenced by you on here, come off my life saving meds, and lost the weight and my life. that is one of the worst things about forums.
scary.