Unfair Jaye!

Unfair to send this message to another thread, and unfair to Ginette, who goes out of her way to be kind and is probably the sweetest, most caring person on this forum, which when I consider just how many sweet and caring people I have come across here, is a bloody big, but well deserved, compliment.

Hi,
I just joined today. Does anyone know if doing the 4:3 it is ok to fast Monday through Thursday and eat normally Friday through Sunday? Or do you have to do it intermittently – day on/day off?? I know Michael Mosely chose to do his fast days consecutively.
Thanks
Emily

Hi Milena

My thanks for your reply. It lessens the pain. I did read it just before going to bed but I was so upset I couldn’t reply. No it shouldn’t be on this thread.

Thank you for the compliments

Ginette

Hi Beldyboop

How good are you doing a b2b at the weekend, Sunday would be a really difficult day for me.

Hi Emily

Yes it is ok, but I would think very difficult especially on your first days. I have a day inbetween but normally fast two days a week unless I have some kind of event in the week. The last three weeks I have had this so I fasted Monday, Wednesday and Thursday.

Maybe a bit of a shock to you body all at once. But give it a go if you want to. I save nearly all of my food for the evening. I have maybe a piece of fruit in the afternoon and a meal in the evening. Is there a reason why you feel you need to do this? Maybe work?

Whatever the reason good luck and let us know how you get on.

Ginette

Hi. Emily

Welcome

Do you mean to fast for 4 days and eat normally for 3? Or did I read that wrongly.

Nothing wrong with either way, but if you are just starting, you might find 2 days fasting a week, not together, gets you into a rhythm. Only saying this as at first fasting can have a bit of a wobbly effect. Headaches, tummy aches, feeling cold, sleeplessness, all can happen, though usually short term. Particularly if you look water, and with it sodium, during the first couple of weeks.

Recognizing hunger, and obsessing about food can happen, well it does for me and I’ve been doing it a while.

Lots of folk tweak 5:2 to their own preferences, 5:2 with 2000/500 calories, TDEE and a quarter of that, back to back , alternate days, fasting Windows, water fasts.

Good luck, tell us about yourself and what you hope to achieve, and how you are getting on.

Wealth of information on the site and the book is invaluable.

Let us know how you are ge

Hi everyone!

Ginette, well done on the 2 Ibs, you must be pleased!

Emily Hi there, I think fasting mon-thurs would be tough, I suppose it’s like 3:4? I’m not sure I would keep going, I’m doing a back 2 back this weekend and it’s a bit of a challenge, yesterday was hard but today is easier, went for a run this morning, and was ok, and am going to my yoga class to night, so hopefully that will give me a good nights sleep! Can’t wait for tomorrow’s NFD. This weekend I’ve bought some new digital kitchen scales, and will be cautious on NFD’s. Am well and truly a biscuit addict, and so do my FD’s on Tue/Thus to avoid this temptation. Have bought some nuts which will be my “biscuits”, half the time my biscuit eating is mindless anyway. Have also reduced my wine intake ;-( albeit slowly since xmas, and now only do wine maybe one day of the weekend, feel quite pleased, as could have willingly sunk a ship in the amount I drunk, a couple of years ago.
I do have treats though, but try to stick to one day a week, maybe a Sunday (not today :(), a little of what you fancy..Let us know how it goes for you! best of luck.

Thanks Milena

Hi Beldyboop

Yes I use mine all the time as I could never guess the weight of things. I have nice flat ones that slide in the cupboard easily. I can also put any container on there press return to zero and so it just weighs the food.

Oh biscuits…..I have to keep them out of the house….too tempting!!

Hi Audrey

Did you enjoy your time away?

Yes sad news about Jaye leaving. It all happened on Help all ladies of a certain age thread. I’m sorry she reacted so badly and I hope she will continue doing brilliantly and wish her continued loss on her journey.

Good luck for Tuesday.

Ginette

I’ve been banned from tesco

Yesterday I was at my local tesco store buying a large bag of food for my dogs, I was in the queue for the checkout when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog,

What did she think I had an elephant? So because I’m retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her no I don’t have a dog, I was starting the dog diet again. I added that I probably shouldn’t because I had ended up in hospital last time, but I had lost over 10 kilograms before I woke up in intensive care.

I said it’s essentially the perfect diet, the way it works is you load up your pockets with dog nuggets and simply eat one or two whenever you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and so I had decided to try it again. ( I should mention that by now everyone in the queue was enthralled with my story).

Horrified she asked me if I ended up in intensive care because the food had poisoned me. I told her no, I stepped off a kerb to sniff a red setters behind and a car hit me.

I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard. So I am now banned from tesco, but you had better watch what you say to us retired people because we have all the time in the world to think of daft things to say,

Audreyg,

Funny, but I heard you were hospitalized because you kept falling off your chair trying to lick your nether regions… 🙂

Hi Audrey

I didn’t realise how much I needed a good laugh. This was brilliant – carrying all that dog food in your pockets must be heavy though.

It was really warm earlier today, the car was like a greenhouse. Blood pressures a bit higher than normal so that always makes me feel hot.

Hi Jeannie, Happy and Milena

Ginette

Hi Beldyboop

I have done b2b one accidentally and one on purpose, these aren’t what was difficult for me, it is fasting on a Sunday……this would be difficult as I have eaten with my stepmum for years on a Sunday. She would not be impressed! It is bad enough for her that I watch my food in the week. I bought some coconut and possible vanilla yoghurts yesterday from Lidl. These were lovely. I’ll check out calories etc later. I bought one of those plus size tops and it was too tight but I didn’t like it. Sleeves too short. So that will be going back.

Yes I have done this but I don’t remember what I came out at. I have been doing this for so many months now that I am pretty sure I’ve changed. The one thing that I stopped was toady for breakfast, I felt I didn’t need it, definetly didn’t want it and caved in to the you must eat breakfast brigade. Now I no longer have breakfast apart from maybe in the evening instead of dinner and not toast. I eat about 2.30 – 3.30 on a fast day, only a piece of fruit and the rest I have at 7.30 – 9 in the evening.

On NFD’s I may have a sandwich or fruit and yoghurt at lunchtime which is always as above and then I always have what I fancy with reason again on times of FDs. This is when I feel ready as I decided to listen to my body.

I eat dinner at 5pm on Sunday to fit in with everyone else and dessert about 2/3 hours later. Maybe line yesterday a yoghurt or maybe something more…….it depends what I fancy. I have learnt to listen to my body from about a month after fasting. It works for me.

I got new scales and they are so much better than the old ones, the old ones I could get on 4 times in a row and they would show a different weight. The new ones are much better.

I used to eat about 1500 but I joined Milena on FBD and cut out treats. I now hover around 1000 – 1200. Hence the quicker weight loss.

I have watched secret eaters. It is surprising and a real eye opener to see what people eat without thinking. I have to say I don’t do that now and always eat with appreciation.

I hope you reach both of your goals.

Ginette

Hi Audrey

Just been on Amazon the ones in this link are expensive £35 but the reviews are fantastic and loads of them. I read through a few reviews to make sure they come in stones as well.

There are cheaper ones on there of course. I like the coloured backlight and I can remember that I was sorry that I hadn’t seen these before mine as I would have chosen these.

If you want others post here and I’ll go search. I am in today and will probably only do a bit of housework and some exercise.

I am just going to get a cup of tea as I’m really thirsty today.

I know you are doing the same days as me. How are things going? Yes I’m pleased you lightened the mood.

Ginette

Thanks ginette

Will save up for them, mine are ok but you can go up or down by .4 of a lb each time you get on, it’s very frustrating.

Fast day going well only had liquid so far got some soup out of the freezer for later if I want it, would like to try a liquid only day so am going to see how I get on. Am drinking lots because I have been on the wii game for over an hr do am very very hot!

How is your fast day going?

Audrey

They do indeed sound very good, it is a lot of money though and that is in short supply at the minute hehe.

I will put them on my wish list till I can afford them.

I am sure I will be ok ache wise, I have been working out again for a couple of weeks now so my body is sort of used to it again , and don’t forget the jog at weekend because I certainly won’t do!

Audrey

It sounds delicious,

Whenever our daughters take us out we always end up paying, that’s kids for you hehe.

Hope you have a wonderful day.

It’s kate my daughters wedding soon so I am behaving myself till after, I still need to fit into my suit!

Have a good day

Audrey

Morning,

It’s certainly quiet on here today

I have lost 1.5 lb very happy with that

Hope everyone is ok

Audrey

Hi All

Before I answer all I need to post this link that I got from another thread. The thread was for people with diabetes – if we think we struggle you should see the struggle they have.

This is about aspartame and the studies they have done on it.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx

Extract below:

“Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners are primarily promoted to diabetics and those concerned about their weight. This despite the fact that artificial sweeteners have repeatedly been shown to produce the exact opposite effects:

Research shows that aspartame worsens insulin sensitivity to a greater degree than sugar
Artificial sweeteners have also been found to promote weight gain, in more ways than one
Over time, artificial sweeteners have also crept into a wide variety of products not directly targeting diabetics and dieters.”

It also shows studies from 1986 where a large amount of people were tested. I hope the UK newspapers highlight this. So many people drink diet drinks which contain these thinking they are helpful. It is worth reading to the end.

Ok back to this thread.

Hi Audrey

well done on your loss, it is still a good result and shows that it is easy to reverse a short term gain. Don’t underestimate how important this is for when eventually we get to maintenance.

Hi Welshy

Love your just testing one!

It was me that post was aimed at primarily, this was on the wrong thread and I don’t think I told Jaye off, I just said that she comes over a little strongly at times, this is what I thought about a comments she had directed at a relatively new poster. I also told the original poster that Jaye was well meaning and passionate about what she believed. I’m am really sorry that this was taken this way. I need to really put this to bed as it really upset me at the time and I don’t want to go back to that.

Don’t worry about the weight on there is the food in transit argument, with a couple of days all or half or it will go. You will soon return to a way that helps you cope and as you see by Audrey’s loss, it won’t be long before that is a distant memory.

Good luck for this week.

Ginette

Oh the irony. It let me post that one!

I’m finding today a little tough. It feels like my first fast again!! I’m trying to do as much as possible to keep me busy and drinking many many pints of squash (don’t like tea, coffee or plain water). Tummy is def grumbling but I’m determined to get back on track. I like to imagine that hunger is the feeling of fat melting away lol

Thanks Welshy

I know I don’t feel guilty as I had said nothing that I wouldn’t say to anyone. People who are new to the forum are at a vulnerable time as we all are when we first come on here. Like you our role is to support, encourage and commiserate. We push and pull people along as we want them to do well.

I have had some nice words of support from the forum.

Hi Audrey

Glad you are taking it easier. Also it makes us really appreciate what food we have on NFD, although I enjoy fast days as well.

Ginette

Ginette

Oooo maybe I was putting smileys in. I’ll try and remember not to do that. Thanks for the tip, it was driving me mad lol

Today started out tough and I was really hungry but it’s gotten better as its gone on. It feels so long since I fasted (last one was Wednesday). Not eaten anything today but looking forward to a small portion of bolognase without any pasta.

Already excited about hoping on sales tomorrow and finding out if today had any impact!!

xXx

Welshy

Have you tried bare naked noodles from Morrison’s a bit expensive and you need to add the taste to them. They are only 24 calories for the whole packet. Just rinse them before use. It will only really do one meal or maybe more if you put lots of things with them.

Your post seems longer so maybe smileys were the problem.

Hi Beldyboop

I lost once with a lot of Wii exercise and it really tones you up. The game I suggested to Audrey is good as you don’t need to use the balance board. I did start on on Wii fit plus but I got used to the exercises after a time and I was forever changing batteries in the balance board. This once has apparently got over 150 exercises. If you are interested I will post you a link to my other thread.

I was given two mini chocolate bars and I swear I could hear them calling out of the wrappers to me. As I am on FBD and its only two weeks to go, I must stay strong.

However, not to be beaten by the chocolate bars I have bought them home and will store them until a couple of weeks time……..I will have them eventually!

Ginette

Ginette: I haven’t tried bare naked noodles as I don’t have a morrisons bear me but next time I pass one I’m determindd to run in and buy some. I know you get them at the health food shop (name escapes me) but they seem really expensive. I’m happy without them at the mo. I actually find that by the time it gets to dinner I’m often not very hungry anyway.

My mum sent me a little chocolate bar while I had given up choc for lent. That sat in the cupboard for weeks waiting for me…then my daughter found it and I just gave it to her lol

How much have you lost of the FBD so far Hinette? I quite like doing 3FD (this month is too hectic though) but the idea of no sweet treats or drink is too much for me at the mo!

Beldy: it’s funny to think that we’ve gone from dreading stepping on the scales to looking forward to it. Although I still have that small fear the second I step on them thinking “what if I haven’t lost anything this time?” But I always have thankfully.

I’m on a NFD today but havent eaten yet mainly due the fact I have a check up at the Dr this morning (just for my birth control) and I know I’ll be weighed so I refuse to eat till after that! Every little helps right!? Lol Actually I skipped dinner the eve before my FD (tues) plus brekkie today. And I managed to get to fitsteps mon eve and back on the rowing machine this morning. It feels so good to be back in control after an indulgent lazy weekend. I’ve managed to knock off one pound already with yesterday’s FD. Actually I think it was 1.5lb but I don’t usually count the ounces. Hopefully I can shift another one or two this week before my mum arrives (don’t think I’ve lost enough for her to notice yet unfortunately)

Happy fasting to everyone who’s doing it today and well done to everyone who’s already done one

Welshy xXx

The hunger I was feeling yesterday was only due to an indulgent weekend (and a slice of cheesecake on Monday!). It eased as the day progressed. I don’t normally get very hungry at all on FD. I was just a bit out of whack after the weekend away but I’m back into my home routine now and feeling good.

Ive tried every combination of lemon water I can think of: fizzy, flat, hot, cold but I hate it. Makes me feel sick to be honest. Squash is my one thing I have to have. It gets pints of water into me that I would really struggle with otherwise. I get the no added sugar ones just to feel a little bit better. It’s awkward going out for a drink if I’m avoiding alcohol as there’s only OJ (full of sugar) or fizzy drinks (also full of sugar!). I hate the fact I don’t like water but it doesn’t quench my thirst in slightest and I have to force down every mouthful. Strange I know.

I’ve just come back from the Dr and I was worried her scale would be different to mine. And guess what, they were! But making me two pounds lighter lol I’ll stick with my scale readings but pleased it was lower rather than higher. Just enjoying a very tasty lunch of Moroccan cous cous, lots of salady bits and a small bit of goats cheese. Delish!

xXx

Hi Beldyboop

I thought it would be extremely difficult as I so enjoy certain foods that aren’t nutritionally good. So be this treats or chips I thought six weeks was such a long time.

I had also thought this before starting 5:2 but knowing that I could eat things within reason on NFDs that I wanted, helped me to take the plunge.

Anyway wanting to support Milena and also wanting to stop me have too many treats I took the plunge, knowing that it would be one of the most difficult decisions I made.

Well the first week was difficult, but it got almost as easy as 5:2. I must say Milena is the star in this as I had meals out that I couldn’t avoid. Yes I could have said no to dessert but the first one was a voucher with thirty pounds to spend and this would have left money on the voucher so I did……only a small ice cream though, the smallest they do. The second was a wedding and there was no choice of dessert so I had to go along with it. They wanted everybody to experience it and it was served in a ball of meringue. This they said symbolised their circle of love.

The third is a meal with my son, the first ever he has invited me out for, just me and him. Well the meal will be fine as it is a cavery and I shall forgo the yourkshire pudding. I am toying with the idea of dessert as they may do a fruit salad, but dessert is free. So I will have something. I can’t resist free things.

Yes I have avoided so much, I have gained – not weight but momentum……it has really kickstarted things again. To be fair I only had two weeks where I only had 1/2 a pound loss. This was over Easter and too much indulgence….as you see I am only human. I just didn’t want it to continue this way so decided to jump in with both feet.

So far I have lost on FBD 3,5,1 and 2lbs. So that was great although I was a little worried at the 5 as I didn’t want to lose that quickly. As you see a right kick in the behind and thankfully only nearly two weeks to go.

Milena is planning an absolute feast on the very next day afterwards. I shall have a fast day as normal and then some treats on the second day. I am lucky as I don’t drink and so won’t really miss alcohol.

Hi Welshy

I think Applepie may be right. I used to dink flavoured waters but found some of those higher in calories than expected, I also don’t like fizzy drinks and it was hard to get flat flavoured water. I now drink water favoured with juice and by that I mean the tiniest bit added to just turn the colour of the water. This I find more refreshing than water, this is probably in my brain….but it means I drink a lot more. I make it in a pint glass and I can get through 2 pints when exercising (but often I can have just water here from need) if I am sitting down or pottering the one with very little juice is ideal.

My tea intake remains the same although I got a bigger cup so there is definetly more fluids drank in a day.

The no added sugar ones often can have sweeteners, look at the label. Sorry I don’t want to be a wet blanket.

The health food shop is Holland and Barratt but they are expensive there. You can order them online but again this would probably work out expensive and you may have to order more than one. I bought one to try and thought it was ok, but I should have added more spices. I then bought another couple and I have eaten one with more spices – that was really nice. The last I am going to try with pesto and parmesan.

I’m glad you weighed lighter at the doctors. I hope they were pleased with that. Yes for readings that you count it is best to stick to one. I used to weigh everyday and there were many ups and downs now I weigh once a week. Maybe if I am going to the doctors I might weigh on that moving as well and also if I am going to see my health trainer.

I really hope your Mum notices. I think it depends on if you have a lot to lose as I have lost a lot of weight and only one person has noticed that my shoulders are getting narrower.

Just had a strange temptation arrive. I tub of Ben and Gerrys peanut butter ice cream. I spoke to the delivery driver who said well if it’s in your creates so consider it a freebie!! Ah well I suppose I shall have to try it in two weeks….I don’t even really like peanut butter……but I shall have try it…….I suppose Sigh… I bet it is packed full of calories!

Have a good day everybody.

Ginette