Well done, PH, on getting through FD. Some days are a real struggle, while others fly by without any trouble at all. But, you’ve proved that you can do it so BRING IT ON!!! Hope your back feels better after physio xx
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Thanks for passing on the good wishes from GG and delighted to hear that the venue for the WTF tour fits the bill so well. Ye will all have a fantastic time, I’m sure π Yes, I can relax now….about everything except 5:2!!! Boy, have I let loose over the last two days; alot of damage to be repaired!! π
I have to admit I get frustrated with needing to be so careful about FDs and TDEE in order to lose anything at all and it seems to take longer to lose very little. If I slacken at all, the weight goes on straight away. I know I will never get to 6:1 with the way I chose to eat. However, I am much happier with my weight and how I look than I was a year ago. I also believe my health is benefitting from this wol. And…..the best thing is having the company of all you beautiful people on the AD thread. π π
Hi CG:
I really admire the encouragement you give to those trying to succeed with 5:2!
I think you have been successful, too.
If you want to lose more weight than you have, you now have a great starting point. If you have neither gained nor lost weight since Easter, AND if any time along the way you have kept track of the calories you have been eating, you now know your TDEE (regardless of what any calculator might say). All you have to do is eat to your TDEE for five days, and 25% of your TDEE for two, and your weight loss will resume.
If you have read some of my posts, you know 5:2 was an ‘accidental’ weight loss diet, spawned from a ‘life extension’ TV program. It works on the old tried and true calorie reduction theory (eat less than you use) and has been proven safe and effective as a weight loss diet (research listed in my thread). So you need not worry about any ‘non researched’ problems with it.
There is no weight loss benefit associated with feast/famine conduct.
The less you eat, the more you lose (or, the more you eat, the less you lose).
Good Luck!
CG you are such an inspiration for others it is such a shame you are frustrated. ???
I am wondering why you want to lose more weight? Is it for health reasons, or just because the suggested weight for your height says you are still overweight. I am a firm believer that if we are feeling healthy at a reasonable weight when we get older then that is what our body is telling us is right for us. Maybe if has just had enough of losing weight and just wants to get on with life. Getting fit, which is what you are doing actually makes more muscle. Maybe you are converting fat to muscle, which weighs more , and are still losing fat..getting fitter is MUCH more important than losing more weight at your size….
We have these great expectations that we need to be what the experts say. Who knows if they are right about that and that there should not be different figures for each stage of our life…instead of a one size fits all ages version.
.. Are you happy with your body image at the moment? You sure look great and don’t look overweight!! Does your doctor think you need to lose more weight? Are you able to do the things you want to do in life without too much effort? If you suddenly get sick at the weight you are now, at least you have the ability now to ride out an illness if you find yourself unable to eat.
Remember. If you get too skinny you get more wrinkles!!! ??????.
Maybe it is time to just coast along for a while maintaining with no expectations and enjoy life as it is! ??????????????????????
Hi CG:
The answer comes with your comment “I am consciously eating UP to my TDEE. . .” I would suggest that whatever you think your TDEE is, if you are eating up to it, and doing two diet days each week and not losing weight, then what you think your TDEE is, is wrong – too high. It is so simple, but so hard to do, but TDEE means the number of calories you need to eat to neither gain nor lose weight. If you eat to your TDEE five days, and eat less for two days, you have to lose weight.
If you have followed my posts, you have seen me say that one of the hardest things dieters must understand is how few calories their body needs to operate each day. Until one comes to grips with that fact, they cannot accept the fact that they have to eat much less than they used to eat, or want to eat, just to stay at the same weight. They have to eat even less to lose weight.
I am a ‘non typical’ dieter with 5:2 – I have no weight loss goal. I used it to lose 40 pounds in 2013 and 2014. In 2015 I decided to see if I could maintain the loss, even though I could stand to lose many more pounds to be ‘average weight’. With trial and error, I have managed to maintain my 40 pound loss in 2015. After the holidays, I will continue with 5:2 to lose some more weight.
For various reasons, I know quite a bit about 5:2 and how it works. I agree with you that it is an exceptional weight loss diet, worthy of being followed. I am on this site just to try to help newbies keep on keeping on (as Samm used to say) and enjoy its benefits. I admire your ‘stick to it ness’ and am sure you will ultimately reach your goal. And if you are happy where you are now, that is OK, too.
Good Luck!
Hi all. I did go off on a tangent in the above post. rEally should have included everyone. . I do really think that we should not be trying to be supermodels!! Too much trouble at our stage in life. Life is for living. Some of us still have a long way to go before Before will be at a healthy weight and look at the older members of the forum in awe of what you have achieved. Most of you have already shed a great deal of unhealthy weight and are reaping the benefits of a new lighter body. And living life to the fullest without any health ramifications…..
FIT.. DANCING the night away , weddings, reunions…CG exercising, mowing, feeding Lexie, tractor work, Gyps.. Off on the bike for weeks camping enjoying life, Sj . Galavanting around with OH all over the place. GG, off to Sydney, reunions, partying, checking out our venue. Not sure where you are on this journey Doggy and UP but love your input also. . Keep enjoying life to the fullest and giving us invaluable support and encouragement and one day we will also be like you gals… and AUSSIE DETERMINATION will be around for years to come celebrating life together…….??????ββ€οΈβ??ββ€οΈβ????
GG thanks for phoning CG with messages. Looking forward to you being back on line.
Sorry CG. Our posts crossed. Respect the fact that you really WANT to lose more weight and in that case.. GO FOR IT,!!! You will do it because you have so much Aussie Determination. And to the rest of you.. The same sentiments. Sorry for rambling on about thoughts on the matter. Had a friend who lost so much weight she actually could not fight her final illness and died as a result of too much dieting. So just brought back memories. I’ll pull my head in in the future.. PH
Hello all lots been happening while I’ve been busy – work, then hairdressers then sewing & then pruning roses. First time on the computer now.
CG it’s interesting isn’t it re the *$%%^# plateaus. I noticed the day we went out to dinner I was thinking of the kilo or so I’d have to lose afterwards. I’d had a bad eating day already & then didn’t hold back when we went out to dinner at all. And blow me down I think I was 70.2 that morning & next day I was 70.1 or similar. So…work that one out!!! Sometimes we try so hard & watch every morsel as you say and don’t lose, or we eat just a little bit over and wham we’ve put on a LOT. No rhyme or reason sometimes. However…..my answer is Mmm do I want to be on a diet every day for the rest of my life, cos that’s what it will take for me to maintain? And my answer is NO. So my only solution is 5:2. My loss is now very slow but you can’t take away the 13 kilo loss that I’ve had and maintained from me!! Can’t take away your 25 kilos either!!! I totally understand your frustration but think along these lines:
You lost lots of weight in the beginning so are you doing anything differently? What have you changed? Are you being too strict or not strict enough? Have you been through a whole pile of stress and recovery? YES you have. Have you been on lots of meds? Yes you have. Is your body still settling down & readjusting? Yes I think for you it is. So my dear give it time and it will give you the weight loss you so dearly long for……eventually!! You’ve had splendid success with your op & your body is working so hard to restore your full health & strength I think it’s saying….Hey CG I can’t do any more for you just at the moment. XXX
PH so glad you got through your FD. I too had a hard day but just managed to stay good! Went for my hot choc early & that did the trick…oh & went just a little over cos I had a square of Lindt choc.
Back to my sewing now & the next outfit. Really paid yesterday for my dressmaking…my back & neck in particular were killing me (bending over the table cutting out). Much better today thank goodness…survived on panadol osteos & gave myself 1/2 the afternoon off reading a book & sitting quite still. Couldn’t get into the osteopath as he’s not taking any new clients till next year bummer. Going back to the dr tomorrow to see the results of my spinal x-ray before I go to see my physio. Could be both osteo arthritis & osteoporosis contributing to the problem.
Well the rain has just started so that’s enjoyable for today. Sunshine until now. Have a good day all. sj XXXX
TODAY’S TIP:
Forgot to mention I was reading on the 5:2 Facebook forum about an interesting tip: Lots of people on there who had trouble sleeping say that they have for a long time been having a teaspoon of honey before they go to bed (20 cals I gather) & it works for them. Worth a try for some of you???? XX
Hi, just a quick note. CG, I have never counted my TDEE ever and when I am consistently losing well, I am sure I am eating less, so I definitely wouldn’t be trying to eat up to anything!
As I have said before, I think 5/2 works
1. Because over a week we are eating less calories when it is averaged out an
2. Because 2 fast days is sustainable.
I don’t think there is any magic other than that. If you aren’t hungry, don’t eat!
Thank the stars I have a window to post.
SIMCOELUV- Thank you for your acknowledgement to CG… who keeps the team very highly motivated. As does all the members of AUSSIE DETERMINATION.
I have always found it difficult to eat up to my TDEE ….gave up trying in the 1st 3mths of 5:2. Yes I lost 10kgs BUT now have hit this plateau that has lasted for 3mths despite sticking to the basic fundamentals of the plan. No matter how much or more to the point HOW LITTLE I EAT there is no movement. Like CG I feel the same way. I zig zag from 75kgs to my lowest of 70kgs. Again I ask “If I am eating less … then why am I not losing?! I am determine and will not ever give up on my AUSSIE DETERMINATION…..BUT…. IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING….this is not a diet! IT is a sustainable WOL and an education into the benefits of healthy eating…….GO GAL
CG why don’t you go back to what you did that worked & try it for a few weeks? Worth a try surely? And I wonder how much your gall bladder plays a part in the struggle too? Was one of the other changes that you made along the way switching from LF to HF or normal foods eg dairy? I think I posted something that encouraged you down that road. Is it worth changing back for a while just to see…but you may not want to do that now I suspect!
I’d say above all CG don’t let it become a diet of numbers. I don’t count my TDEE on food days, just try to be careful & if I choose a treat or similar I try to cut back on other things to balance the books. It’s funny though cos you’re now far more active & doing way more exercise…you’d reckon it would be just dropping off!
Just hang in there fearless leader! and try a few things. See what will work for you. sj XXXX
Haven’t done much sewing today so better get back to it. One thing after another keeps stalling me. Focus girl focus!
Hi All!
Very interesting debate…we all seem to be at the same stage more or less and it is frustrating! Yet, we are all committed to keeping on because we know it is doing us good whatever the scales say. I agree that somewhere along the way our bodies have changed and the so the goalposts have moved. In other words, the amount of cals we need to lose weight now is less than when we started. Maintaining is now more like the dieting we did in the beginning. This is what I find hard to accept….my mind wants to eat like I did at the start of 5:2 and when I was losing; it doesn’t want to accept that if I want to keep losing I have to eat even less now π . So, I have a choice to make: eat like I used to and use the two fast days to maintain, or eat less and fast for two days (with less than 500 cals) and I’ll start to lose again. It depends on which I want more! Either way, I am not giving up on this wol and you gang, that’s for sure!! π
CG, GG, SJ, UP, Gyps and PH – you are all such fantastic people and have experienced success and frustration, challenges and triumphs and all these stories are so helpful to everyone who logs on here. The good humour, encouragement and support more than compensate for the hiccoughs along the way! So let’s keep on truckin’ and we’ll be the healthiest we’ve been in years….beautiful on the inside as well as the outside!! π
Ok, now for my confession……I totally binged yesterday: bread, cheese, biscuits, chocolate etc…..a real blow-out! So today, I’m paying for it – indigestion and bloating π Also nearly 2kg up on the scales!!!! FD needed in a big way!!!!!
Hope you all find what works for you and looking forward to hearing about it all xxxxxx
Well another very interesting day comes to a close. Deep and meaningful discussions about the adventures of 5.2….. Had a good session in the pool, then found a great new pair of swimmers at Be Me . My second set of swimmers stretched out of proportion today and so won’t see another wear. . ?????? Then off to Masters and found some lovely mauve and white pots of colour for the garden. Salvias..2.00 per pot and some colourful yellow somethings ????..so my breezeway will look colourful for Christmas..???. Tomorrow another day. Off to the pool at 8am, followed by doctors visit..then to Pain Management physio appointment. What a lot of time I would have if It weren’t for medical appointments and exercise. Then tomorrow night I have a Hall Committee meeting. The treasurer has resigned and it is the annual general meeting. Just got a call from the secretary making sure that I knew about the meeting and was going…methinks maybe a little arm twisting is on the way to take the treasurers job. Not sure how I feel about that. It is one of the few village halls that has not been taken over by the council and is still managed by the local community and I joined the committee when we moved here almost 3 years ago to get involved with the local people and do my bit for the village. I guess will wait and see….have a great PC day tomorrow. Nite Nite ????
Well hek yes what an interesting day eh? Fit are you up yet? It’s 9pm here but of course it’s already past midnight over east here. Google tells me it’s 1.03pm in the afternoon in where you are. How strange it all is. I know that when we Skype our son he’s getting the kids ready for bed or having dinner & we’ve just had breakfast or part way through the morning. Tis very weird when we travel over there cos it takes 24 – 30 hours depending on your stops but you still land on the same day. Then on the way back you lose a day….boom…gone!
Fit you know that with 5:2 that 2 kg will be gone in no time don’t you. I’m being careful this week as I’m still aiming for 68 something sometime soon. Is it gonna be this week? Lots of rain today & tomorrow I gather then the sun will be back. sj XX
Only herbal teas for me tonight…no hot choc. Aren’t I being good!
Hi SJ! Yes, 1.15pm here at the moment. I’m fasting today so just had one black coffee and lots of water so far. I’ll be going soon to my sister’s (the one with dementia) with another sister to help sort out her Christmas list. She has a fixation about shopping for presents and in the past has bought hundreds of euros worth of unwanted and useless items. She keeps ringing my sister about getting more presents so we are hoping to get a proper list done and maybe find homes for all the items she has bought in the past which are stashed away in her cupboards. Hopefully, that will stop her going on and on about it!
You are doing really well on 5:2, polish that halo!! Imagine getting into the 68s!!! Woohoo! π We have a storm warning in place again here for the second week in a row….very wild and wet here but not that cold….strange weather! Time zones can be hard to get your head around but isn’t it marvellous that we can stay in touch across the globe and find friends and like-minded people wherever we are xxxx
Fit you’ll just have to avoid the coffee and cake afterwards! My mum had dementia for many years so have been where you’re at with your sister. It’s a hard road at times but wonderful that she has 2 sisters to look out for her and all so close! It’s something I worry about at times as both my mum and grandma had it. I keep up with my music and learning new pieces to keep the brain active!
Hope you’re having a lovely day. Been nice to chat. Stay strong Fit and stick to your plan. Kick those kilos to the kerb. Sj xx
Hi Fit – just bulk in transit – there are times when only a senakot will do!!! lol!
I think I am also at the same stage – though had a Christmas fair this weekend which meant a 250 mile round trip and a day standing – both days! Wears me out! And an antiques fair this weekend, but just 5 miles away – bliss, though the standing is hard!
So I’ve managed to combine rubbish food with missing meals, and managed to not gain and not lose – trying a couple of days fasting so that I am ready to do it all again, then determined to get 10lbs off before Christmas – I think I need a bigger otherwise I think I may be this weight forever more – though as its loads less than this time last year, I’m thinking we all be being just a little hard on ourselves!
Have a good week, hope the weather is ok for you Fit, rain rain rain here, and its turned really cold – acutally typicall November Scottish weather, just glad I’m not out much between now and Christmas!!!
travel hopefully all
SJ – the weather is so wild that we decided not to go out for coffee and cake, so that suited me! We brought some cake with us but I had none!!! How’s that for matching your halo? π We found enough presents already there for everyone on my sister’s list and we have wrapped and labelled them all!! If she unwraps them and mixes them up (like she did last year!), I think I’ll strangle her!! We can’t put them out of sight or she’ll forget they’ve been done and start ringing us up about doing her shopping again!!! You can’t win! Good on ya for keeping the grey cells ticking over!!
Milena – managed without the senakot if ya know what I mean! π Sounds like you have earned a good rest after all that standing – it’s very hard on the system. Orange weather warning here with gusts of over 100km expected…..eek!
Hi all, I have been quiet for a while due to lots happening. On Friday 13th my younger son got engaged so that’s one good thing on that awful day. Now I have a wedding outfit to plan for. They want to get married next year so I have time to lose some more weight. My fd yesterday went OK as I was busy.
My husband got an excellent report from his cancer specialist, the cancer has all gone!
On a lighter note, I found a sewing machine I think will tick all my boxes, a Janome S5. Hoping to try one tomorrow.
Hotter weather coming, ugh.
Mornin’ CG! Lovely to hear you back in such good form; you’re never down for long!! Your positivity shines through no matter what! Yes, my sister lives alone but has lots of home help visits during the day, as well as siblings on a regular basis. Thankfully, she never tries to cook or use any appliances or go outside so she is safe and secure. Have a wonderful day….you deserve it. I’m sure you’ll look lovely; you are a very stylish lady. Meanwhile I’m dressing more and more like an onion with so many layers against the horrible weather outside. I’m just coming to the end of my FD and feeling very pleased with how it has gone. I made crab cakes with fresh crab meat and had a big salad with them – yummmmmm! π
Noots – good to hear from you. That’s wonderful news about your OH – so happy for you. And now, you can look forward to your son’s wedding with a light heart too….brilliant! Hope the sewing machine works out well for you xx
Good morning team. I hope soon that my internet problems will soon be over. OPTUS is sending out a new modem….. so please keep fingers and toes crossed. Until then I will post when opportunity presents itself.
It does seem that each of us is going through a lull with our losses. Maybe with summer approaching we will see some change.
Throughout the past 12mths we have all had wonderful results with 5:2. We, using our ever strong AUSSIE DETERMINATION have not let a negitive response stop us. Maybe we need to twick our bodies back into the right mode….whether it be changing our exercise or adding or subtracting the foods we eat. I certainly do not have the time or inclination to do the numbers game.
Some happiness on the scales this morning…..74kgs.
OH and I are going on a date tonight…out to dinner at our favorite Italian resturant. So another chance to dress up.
CG- thinking of you with your consultation with the DR today.
Keep busy as you all are with sewing, celebrating engagements, caring for loved ones. Do not forget to look after you and have that special ME time when you need it.
YOU CAN DO THIS……SO BRING IT ON…..WE ARE AUSSIE DETERMINATIN!!!!!!…..love…GO GALxxxxxxx
Good morning team. I hope soon that my internet problems will soon be over. OPTUS is sending out a new modem….. so please keep fingers and toes crossed. Until then I will post when opportunity presents itself.
It does seem that each of us is going through a lull with our losses. Maybe with summer approaching we will see some change.
Throughout the past 12mths we have all had wonderful results with 5:2. We, using our ever strong AUSSIE DETERMINATION have not let a negitive response stop us. Maybe we need to twick our bodies back into the right mode….whether it be changing our exercise or adding or subtracting the foods we eat. I certainly do not have the time or inclination to do the numbers game.
Some happiness on the scales this morning…..74kgs.
OH and I are going on a date tonight…out to dinner at our favorite Italian resturant. So another chance to dress up.
CG- thinking of you with your consultation with the DR today.
Keep busy as you all are with sewing, celebrating engagements, caring for loved ones. Do not forget to look after you and have that special ME time when you need it.
YOU CAN DO THIS……SO BRING IT ON…..WE ARE AUSSIE DETERMINATION!!!!!!…..love…GO GALxxxxxxx
Hello.everyone. This is one very bruised and battered doggy here. Last night I managed to trip over a carpet in the lounge room and fell heavily. I was lucky, however, as I was very close to a table and could have easily hit my head on it and concussed myself. My ribs are really painful on one side. I dont think I’ve fractured any but if the pain persists will go to the doctor. It’s very badly timed as I have my nephew with a friend from the UK coming to stay for a few days. My nephew is very easy going and always mucks in to help so it shouldn’t be too difficult. So I’m going to be MIA for the rest of the week. I’m not going to have a FD while they are here as its all in the too hard basket.
XX Dawg
Poor Doggy! π Sounds like your nephew might even be able to look after you, instead of the other way round! Take care – I damaged my ribs lately too and they were very sore even though they weren’t broken or fractured. They also took a long time to heal, so please take care and be patient.
GG – really hope your internet gets sorted soon; it’s lovely to hear from you. Xxxx
OH poor Doggie look after yourself. I did similar a few weeks ago (tripped on the electric blanket cord while making the bed) & fell just between the bed & the dresser…oh so close. But just a skun elbow & knee for me so nothing like sore ribs which can be nasty. So take care & breathe not too deeply & try not to sneeze/cough as it’s not pleasant. Head to the dr if you need to. Does your knee seem to have come through OK?
Morning all a busy morning on the forum today. CG so glad you’re back to your positive self. GG great to see you posting & good news re a new modem at last! Got everything crossed for you. Enjoy your dinner date & the dressing up especially!
Noots an engagement and an excellent report from the cancer specialist…a GREAT week for you! And you’ve found the sewing machine you want. ENJOY!!
CG all the best with your appointment & go knock them out with your lovely outfit!
Well I’m getting very boring here. Off to more sewing & then a dr’s app’t too to get the results of my spinal x-rays re the pain. Might just have to book a massage this week as my physio really isn’t getting me very far, or else I try a different physio. Have a fun day eating ANY foods you want but with portion control and controlled treats too. suejen XXXX
The guests have taken themselves off for a walk on th beach. My nephew’s friend is a very nice young man. Well mannered and with a good sense of humour. Pepper is overexcited with all the extra people around to Make a fuss of him.
CG I pleased that the surgery is going to happen before Christmas. Is there someone who can come in and help you with your animals while you are recuperating? Yes I too,am concern about bushfires this season. We’ve had very little rain. I’m OK with spiders as long as they stay out of my bedroom I’m terrified of snakes though. We live so close to the bush so they are out and about. I always tell my grandchildren to keep their eyes peeled as they love it lie in the sun on the bush paths. The snakes that is !
I’m off to cook up some bolognaise that we are having with pasta tonight.
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