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Feeling virtuous. Even went into Mc Donald’s today and only bought a cup of tea! It was the only place I could find!
Yes, I think you have the idea of the widow makers, now Fit! Either big branches or even the whole tree as they are shallow rooted and a big wind can pull a tree down.
SueJen, it is absolutely impossible for me to only eat one slice of raisin toast. Completely understandable!
GG, good to have you back.
CG, your posts are starting to sound like your old self. A good sign!
Lotus, that is impressive. Well done! About 100 years ago when I was a student I lived in a college room on the south side and bought myself a blue bedspread and made blue curtains. I was miserable. The next year I asked for a sunny room and bought a bright yellow chenille bedspread and made yellow curtains. I was so much happier! To this day, I cannot live in dark houses. Grey days make me feel awful.
Yum, that is awful about your grandfather. They do deserve their name.
Taco, that is a horrible feeling when you do that. Never mind, there is always tomorrow!
Doggie, I have had 3 nights in a row with wine and to not have it today was hard. It is such a nice way to wind down but it is worth it to limit it to certain times for me, so I hope you notice the difference.
Funny about 5/2. 3 of us in the house fast on the same days but my daughter can’t do what my husband and I do, which is have our first small amount of food at lunchtime and then a larger meal at around 7. She has to eat much earlier and prefers to have a main meal for the first meal, so she tends to eat different things that suit her. It is good that it is flexible enough to organise it to suit the individual. My daughter normally eats breakfast as soon as she wakes so fasting was a big change for her, but she manages well. We just don’t eat our meals together on fast days.
GG π , still thinking of you and CG – stay strong, follow the Dr’s orders and get well soon, Gypsy- stay warm and safe, Suejen, I know exactly what you mean, I have the same problem; once I taste something, I get addicted and polish off everything off! – at least you stopped at 2! I would have kept going π
Great news Taco! The greatest proof is our own transformation. Isn’t that wonderful when it happens? Well done, and if you are “back in the saddle” today, focus on the positive transformation, and don’t give your body negative feedback like “i am no good because I overeat all the time” or “I can’t stick to nmmy determination”, also, dont listen well meaning friends or family when they say things like, “eat it, it’s only a small thing” or “enjoy, life is short”. Not saying that you do any of the above, but these have been my traps each time i have failed.
We fast because we choose to. Our bodies and minds are strong enough to cope. We can eat, but not overeat, but tomorrow.
Funny story – my MIL commented this morning, on fast days you always look tired at night, so don’t fast, it could not be healthy. My response, after many years of defensiveness and trying to explain my actions was different this time – yes, I do get tired at night after a fast, but that’s natural and will not make me keel over and die. In fact, it’s natural for anyone feel tired at night!
CG, you are amazing! I don’t know how you managed to be as active as you are when you had all that back pain. You will knock that 4 kg’s off in no time once things get back on track and no matter how much we dislike losing some of our hard earned loss, it is totally worth it in the long run!
People have noticed that I have lost but it doesn’t garner much comment and never any negativity. I certainly don’t understand why people would be like that. I guess you are stuck with mother’s in law etc but other negative people are not needed in your life. Lotus, clearly some people have their own issues, and we just need to accept it and let it wash over us. Good on you for speaking up and not letting yourself be sabotaged. As you say, CG, most people don’t even know I am eating differentlyβ¦I refuse to say “dieting”, it is just a WOL. It is only on this forum that I focus on it and think about it which it is so great to have this group.
I am at the point where I don’t need the group so much for dieting advice, I imagine most of us are in the same position now, but wouldn’t leave it for other reasons and also I wonder how successful I would have been without it. I would have still lost I think because once you are seeing the losses it self perpetuates but the advice on here has been invaluable and certainly made it more fun.
So after fasting yesterday, I am still not back to my lowest. I need at least another week or 2 but I will get there.
xx
Hi everyone. Once again lots to read and I’m not sure if I’ve taken it all in. Lotus thanks for the links, I’m going to have a squizz after this. Yes colours do matter. Our daughter married a Swiss and lived in Switzerland for a few years. Of course it’s beautiful but she missed the lovely bright Aussie sunshine and found the constant dull long winter days very depressing. Thankfully they moved back here. interestingly enough in Sweden where the winters are long they change the curtains and lounge suite coverings etc in the winter just to liven the place up and give them a change of scenery. Lotus do give us some feedback on your diet tweaking. It would be great if you could come off your meds. GG good to have you back. CG good that you are feeling better each day. Good luck with losing that extra weight. I seem to have been stuck on 67 Kilos for ages and ages. I found my FD difficult yesterday after being MIA for about 10 days. I went over the 500 calories by about 80. CG I think it was you who put us onto the Jarrah choc drink. It’s very yummy and is probably the reason I over did it but I really felt I needed a hot drink after dinner. Suegen I’m already thinking my wine free week is dead in the water. We’ve been invited to a happy hour this arvo. Can’t see me having a glass of soft drink while others are quaffing some vino! Oh the best laid plans of mice and men.
XX Dawg
Morning all. Well CG you have woken up with aussie determination haven’t you! Less pain makes such a difference doesn’t it. Because you’re not moving much yet + meds CG you may not lose it that quickly do you think? With what your bod has been through I think you should be excited about any loss that comes your way! Not trying to be discouraging just realistic. Wow re your compliment too – must have floated on air for the rest of the day!
Taco I too convinced an old friend into getting her book out & actually reading it/starting 5:2. She said her family had sat her down months ago & said she needs to lose weight – they don’t want to lose her early (their Dad died many years ago). When she saw me at church (here on holidays) she asked me about the weight loss, asked how you do it etc etc. When we parted she said Wow this has been so great. I actually feel like I might be able to do something about it now. GO 5:2!! We’re going to try and keep in touch.
Have a great day all. Busy day ahead with playing the organ for a singalong at our old folks home this morning & dentist this afternoon. suejen XX
Dawg – happy to give any feedback on my tweak π This morning, I lost about 500 gms but that could just be watre, so will officially weigh on on Friday. I thought I would feel famished this morning, but not really, had a good breakfast (typical Aussie big brekky, except didn’t feel like toast). Usually my stomach feels a bit “ginger” after an FD, but not today, so I take that as a good sign. Plan to again full fast from Wed night to Friday morn. See how it goes π
On my mother-in-law, I can say without bias that she has some personality issues and has been diagnosed as having some extent of narcissistic personality disorder. It does not bother me much, now that we know for sure where her comments are coming from, but it definitely bothered me in the early days/years of our marriage, especially as she lives with us. so for me, this WOL has also been a learning journey on truly expressing myself and my choices (whether to eat or not), without being defensive or angry, or reactive. Anyhow, not whingeing at all, as I feel for her, she is otherwise an active, generous lady. Sharing it here as I understand that many of us are struggling with the fact of having people with their own issues in our environment. For them, and for us, it is a learning curve.
I read this a few days back, and it has really helped me cope better –
http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/15-things-narcissists-dont.html
http://www.lifehack.org/articles/productivity/13-ways-successful-people-deal-with-toxic-people.html
Hi again. This is for anyone who drinks Jarrah hot Chocolate. There is a warning that says it contains Phenynalanine. I’ve just Googled it and it does come with some warnings for people with certain medical conditions. Too much info to put here but I suggest you read it. Two of the conditions are sleep disorder and depression. I didn’t sleep well last night so will not be having it after 6 pm again.
CG re your recuperation and periods of hairbrush to lie on the couch. Do you enjoy audiobooks? I love them as I’m able to download them onto my iPad and listen while I’m sewing or whatever. Another fun thing is an App called Elevate. It’s some brain exercise stuff. I’ve been using it for a while to help me keep good brain function. The only annoying thing is the occasional American accent. Apologies to the Yanks but I do find the accent annoying.
Yes and we have widow makers in Tassie too. Some gum trees can drop huge branches on perfectly calm still days.
XX Dawg.
Afternoon Determinators!. After 15 days of being in a house with no scales…. I am now going to break into much hooting and whistling……..I weigh 69.8kgs YES YES YES!!!!!!! really did think my scales were having serious senior moments as I have not used them BUT its TRUE….. took 4 goes for me to believe them.
Starting weight was 83kgs….. GOAL weight 68kgs …..Not long to go now.
This is what being part of AUSSIE DETERMINATION and 5:2 did for me and ….and all of you.
OH YES …WE CAN DO THIS……hugs GO GAL XXXXXXX
So many good posts!!! You’re so right Up, the support and interest of fellow ADers is what we keep coming back for and as CG said, the occasional recipe hint or ‘lightbulb’ moment. Am over diet talk so don’t say anything about 5:2 unless it is appropriate so this is where I can do so naturally. As we have said over and over, the WOL is so accommodating that we don’t have to make ourselves look weight obsessed or others feel bad. We just move sideways and do it another day.
Dawg still wondering how you managed to type hairbrush for forced bed rest LOL.
GG truly an inspiration. Way to go.
Lotus I’m guessing that your MIL is probably a bit overweight. The usual reason for that sort of comment. Good on you for not taking offence.
Haven’t weighed in for a few weeks, wanting a surprise. As long as it’s a good one!!! Found FD really hard yesterday between OH home and really cold I had to cave in during the afternoon and had a small tin of salmon with salt and freshly ground pepper (only 54 cals) to get me over the hump. Also ate a smallish apple after dinner (50 cals) so my total was 473 cals.
Have a lovely afternoon everyone. Must have a bit of rain on the horizon for W.A. as it is quite warmish. One can only hope. YYxx
G’day,
Hope I can join you here for some support.
Just started 5:2 today after watching last nights SBS program. Been thinking about it for a while and today’s the day. Judging by these posts Aussie Determination is paying off……..hope mine will too……tried ’em all over the years and this is my last hurrah……..
Wow what a busy day today!! GG fab news for you & can believe you standing on the scales 4 times to make sure. Well done & with all that stress as well. 5:2 has looked after you hasn’t it.
4sure (good idea Lotus) welcome. You’ll get all the support you need here. And you’re like most of us – we’ve tried everything else & now we’re 5:2ers for life, because this WOL (way of life or WOE way of eating) really does work. We’re proving it every day.
YY you did way better than me. After my 2 extra raisin toasts I also had a home-made muffin & then my hot choc. I need to learn to head to something like a tin of salmon too – that’s a good move & plenty of protein to fill you up. I’d say more like 800 in the end. Need to stop making excuses for myself re the cold weather…I can still make good choices.
Lotus heading back now to read your post about dealing with toxic people & the like. Thanks – could be very handy. You do well to cope with a narcissistic personality at such close quarters.
And CG I’m with you on the “been eating way too much bread” statement. I do tend to head in that direction over winter (hence raisin toast last night X 2) but I need to change that. Been a lovely day today & 3 more to come I gather – loving the sunshine. sj xxx
CG I have a cup of fairly milky coffee between 9 – 10 and then try to hang out with just black tea or water drinks til 2:30 – 3. Usually manage without too much hassle, especially if I go out. Takes my mind off eating π
So 70 coffee, 23 La Zuppa mug of soup, 280 W.Watchers pumpkin and ricotta cannelloni. This means I can play around by adding extra veg to dinner and usually an apple after dinner because it keeps my stomach feeling full for sleep. Yesterday as I said I caved and had a tin of John West salmon in spring water that comes in at 54 cals so I didn’t do an extra veg. Of course extra no cal drinks help during the day too. Boring I know but at least I don’t have to worry or think about going over and the WW’s is tasty. Sometimes I do vary it with the Bird’s Eye steamed fish over green veg if I get too bored.
Probably more information than you were really wanting CG but may give the newbie 4sure a bit of an idea. Welcome by the way.
SJ love raisin bread, just bread really, have to watch it too. YY xx
Hi All – wow, so much to catch up on!
GG – so good to have you back and with a loss too!! Amazing! What precious memories you have gathered to treasure for the future. I had a similar experience with my dad and I’m so grateful when I look back that I had that wonderful opportunity to care for him when he needed it most.
Lotus – our research guru! Thank you for all the great and informative links. Also, you are an absolute saint, living with your MIL and showing her such understanding. Of course, knowing what causes her to behave as she does helps you cope with her, but I still think you’re a gem!
CG – love your stubbornness – don’t change it! You set your eye on the goal, make a plan and just get on with it!! I know you will take care not to push things too much and I admire your style! Woohoo on the compliments in your trackies too!! π
Up – I agree that we all know how to live this wol now, but there are always new ideas that can come in handy and most of all, the camaraderie is what makes the difference in keeping going. I think I would have given up long ago if it weren’t for everyone’s encouragement on this thread. I am struggling at the moment but not giving up because I have read about others struggling too and how they keep going and so I don’t want to let myself and the group down – I’m tapping into that famous aussie determination and pushing on until I come out the other side.
Taco – sorry to hear about the illness in the family – sending you best thoughts and wishes. Great to get such compliments and being an inspiration to others, well done!
Dawg – enjoy your happy hour!! Get back on the horse tomorrow!! π Was your ‘hairbrush’ typo before or after happy hour??? Gave me a good laugh trying to figure out was this some other aussie jargon that I didn’t know! π
YY – fantastic FD plan – you’ve got a winning formula, must try to follow your example.
4sure – delighted to have you with us, best of luck with 5:2 and stay with this marvellous gang on the AD thread.
SJ – have been avoiding bread too and went off it completely for many months because I couldn’t just cut back. Now I’m slowly allowing myself one slice of wholegrain bread a few times a week on nonFDs but not entirely sure that’s a good idea. When I go to France on Thursday, that will be the end of bread anyway, because it’s all baguettes and croissants over there and I’m not going to even sniff them if I can help it!!
I’ll probably post later on tonight and then I’ll be out of touch for quite some time…..I might manage to check in briefly once or twice a week for the next month. I’m hoping I won’t go off the rails and I need you guys to keep me on track!
Big hello to everyone else – well done on all the success stories, compliments and achievements.
Night night CG and Fit have a wonderful holiday in France – I envy you. France is our first love & we want to go back one more time. But with a son in the USA it’s a bit tricky. They were going to meet us there this year but then no 3 was on the way – and due in 3 days at the most! We won’t get to meet him/her till early next year. It’s so expensive from here & we went just last year.
Fit I might have to do as you did and simply avoid bread. I’ve been heading for it more & more as the cold weather hits, so seeing I can’t seem to control the amount maybe none is the way to go. Or as you do one or twice a week.
Confession – I bought a pack of licorice mini logs today & I’ve eaten at last 1/2 or 2/3 of the packet. Oh my…might need to do 3 FD’s this week to balance it all out. Should not do that again. I have been avoiding them in the supermarket for months but today they got me!! Oh well that must mean that I’ve missed quite a few packets in the between times. See you all tomorrow sj XXX
Oh my! So many posts π I’ll try and catch up later today π CG hope you are feeling stronger on a daily basis:)
Lotus – I got to read your post and LOL! I loved your response to the MIL π very witty, I can just imagine her face, We have one of those in our family too π Lol. Also thanks for the warnings , I have fallen victim to those strategies ‘eat, it’s just a little’ or ‘oh! Aren’t you eating?’
Report on yesterday’s fast : great till dinner time! I caved in at 7:30 π yesterday was awful for me, long and a tad stressful – normal work stuff nothing important, just one of those days – no excuse – just my bad!
Thursday is another day.
Well, this will be my last post for a few days. I’m hoping to get my head into the right space for fasting again, as the last week has been a bit of a write-off! Never mind, I’m sure I’ll find a new rhythm to my days and my eating.
CG – I hope you keep improving in health and healing. π
SJ – I’ll raise a glass (or two!) to you when I’m in Normandy. Maybe the reunion after next could be in France?! π
Lotus – I send my OH to the bakery because I don’t think I could be trusted if I set foot inside the door and as for the pastries……mmmmm, sinful! π
Big shout out to YY, Up, Gypsy, Taco, GG, Dawg, FB and all our newbies……keep up the good work! Au revoir, mes amis!
Have a fab time, Fit!
CG, as always you are right. The whole idea of 5 2 is that 5 days a week we can eat normally so that means that if you are out, you can have whatever someone is foisting upon you, if you want, or not. This is the whole point. Normal eating is generally healthy but with the occasional treat!
In fact, I think it could be fun, you could appear to eat whatever but still be losing weight!
If anybody tries to make you break a fast day however, then they are no true friend!
For me, I am being pretty sensible most of the time on non fast days so that I feel no guilt whatsoever when I am socialising with others and just do what everyone else is doing. I noticed at the 60th I went to on Saturday night, that a lot of women were being careful around the birthday cake etc whereas I cheerfully dug in. That is the whole idea. It only works because we don’t have to be miserably denying ourselves all the time.
SueJen, I wouldn’t worry about the bullets! I normally don’t have a sweet tooth and rarely make impulse purchases and certainly never hide the evidence but for some bizarre reason I did the other day and was sprung!
In fact, I should have taken it as a sign that the small chocolate bar (cadbury’s fruit and nut) I added to my groceries nearly got left behind when the express checkout cashier didn’t notice it as it had slipped down somewhere and was hard to see. I hadn’t noticed either until the man in line behind me said to the cashier “Don’t forget the most important item!”
So I went back to the car and rather than leave rubbish in the car, I put the wrapper in my handbag. I forgot about it and went out that night with a different handbag. My husband and I arrived home to find that while my daughter was asleep, the dog had sniffed out the wrapper, got it out without seeming to have disturbed the bag in any other way, ripped up the wrapper and distributed it around the floor in high obvious places! I had to laugh and explain that I hadn’t really been trying to hide it. I had just eaten it immediately because I had a craving!
But why did it have to happen the only time I did something completely out of character?
Yum, I will be having the bird’s eye steamed fish tomorrow on FD but tonight we are having bolognaise on mashed pumpkin. I actually prefer it to pasta! Last night was salmon and salad, but with berries and frozen yoghurt. We don’t normally have dessert but I was missing the abundance of berries we ate while in the U.S so treated ourselves.
What cute come I have come back to π
UpT – lol at your chocolate -gate π scandal!!
CG – loved you strategic eating posts… So true and i for one am going to implement them, but for me, I going to eat something only if I want it… Want to kick the habit of finishing whatever’s put on my plate…
Taco I hope today got better for you…
SJ – I have my training wheels on with regards to high cal foods like cake etc ) easy to overdo for me, and then one thing leads to another…but when I get my full license to eat… Watch out world lol π
Fit have a great holiday!!
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