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Hi,
Totally failed at fasting and low cals days. I also ended up drinking gin and munching crisps most of the night. Then today I carried on and munched away mt tiredness. Not optimistic about weight loss this week.
DragonMama, congratulations on your weight loss! It just proves that if we hang in then results will come. Good luck with the house selling.
In It To Thin It, Irish Setter’s are beautiful dogs. Very jealous. Like you I would be happy with no change in weight this week
Hi both, Have a look at this link – a very inspiring success story from a 52 dieter.
LC it is pretty predictable that those rough days and weeks are going to come from time-to-time. You have been doing so well that I am sure you will find your mojo again and get back on track. Don’t think of that bad week as failing, only as taking a short, well deserved break. After all, if you are like me – I had been on non-stop 3 year break before starting this WOE and would eat with abandon for weeks on end. The occasional bad day/week will not send me/us back to that awful state.
That being said, despite /eating/feeling so much better, I had a day yesterday when all I wanted was to eat until i was past full – Why do I want to do that when it is such an uncomfortable feeling???
Decided to make popcorn, -big volume, low calorie – I think I ate about 8 cups!!!! Just a small amount of melted butter, lots of salt. Felt so full I skipped dinner so ended up still over my TDEE, but not by much.
Lazy cat I am thrilled for you having a loss when not expecting one! I think our appetites are being reset and our stomachs have shrunk with the fasting so even when we overindulge we aren’t doing as much damage calorie wise as we did before this WOE.
Let’s continue our downward slide! We’ll toast our success with g&ts along the way.
Hi,
DragonMama, I am sorry to hear that you have a problem that sounds as if it is getting you down. I hope that it can be resolved and quickly. Sometimes a glass of wine or in my case a large gin and tonic is just what we need.
In It To Thin it, yes I think my appetite has reduced slightly. Shame about the belly! Anyway, I feel a bit more motivated to keep to 2 fast days and 3 low cal days. That gives me a bit of wriggle room at the weekend if I fancy something sweet or savory. Well that’s the plan so I will see how it goes.
Good morning, I hope that you are both okay.
Well, it has been gale force winds and now we have snow. This weather is making it difficult for me to have a proper fast or even a low cal day. Durning the cold weather I just want to eat warm comfort food and sweet food. DragonMama, the heat that you are describing sounds very nice as while I am sitting here I see the snow falling and the wind battering off my window.
Hi DragonMama,
I am sorry to hear about the large scale of the fires in your lovely country. It is awful! I will try and remember to google it later to find out more. It must be very frightening for all who are involved including the firefighters. I hope that they manage to control it and put it out.
Today (Saturday) I am planning to visit a friend who has a new cocker spaniel puppy. He looks absolutely adorable. I do love animals.
The snow has stopped for the time being but it is still very windy and freezing. So while I am in the house I am planning to make a large pot of veggie curry to freeze for meals during the week. Both healthy and hot which is just what is needed in this weather.
Hi DragonMama,
Sorry that I have not been posting recently. One of my cats has been quite poorly with a UTI. Had to get an emergency appointment at the vets resulting in an anti-inflammatory injection, antibiotic injection, anti-inflammatory medication for the next week and will be on medication to break down any crystals blocking the urethra for the rest of his life. I dread cleaning the litter tray as there has been blood through his urine since Saturday. However, the blood content appears to be reducing. My poor boy has not managed to get a minutes peace from me fussing and checking the litter tray. Needless to say, yet again I have not managed a fast. Chocolates at work are also making it difficult to fast. I keep thinking that a sugar rush is what I need due to tiredness.
Hope that you are well. I wish that I could send you some rain from Scotland.
Hey, LazyCat. You could check that on your non fast days you have more fat in your food from butter or olive oil. I’ve only been on the diet two weeks. Three days ago, day after a fast day I had such strong food cravings but decided to try eating protein and fat instead of carbs. I had fried herring and vegetables with butter on, small slice of bread and butter. It did the trick, no more carb cravings for the next two days. On my non fasting days I’m keeping off white carbs and sugars except for fruit ( apple, pear or orange) but am using olive oil and butter to cook with. I’ve not craved sugar since I started the diet, though before that I would finish a tub of ice cream, banana pancake or similar. Was persuaded to have a slice of cake at a Charity cake sale but found I couldn’t finish it. Mostly I’m not needing snacks but if I do, I’ve had nuts or a piece of cheese with an apple or carrot. Hope to keep this up. I think the fat is the real help. It seems to make me feel full even if I’ve only had salad with a bit of cheese or chicken in it. So far I’ve lost four pounds, a start on the 2-3 stone that’s got to go, though I’m more concerned about pre diabetes fasting sugar score and slightly high BP, weight is all round my midrif.
Hi Apricot,
Thanks for the tips. I previous was a low fat kind of girl but the realised that low fat foods just had added sugar. I had done okay and had lost 5lbs in 3 weeks. This week has been not so good due to worrying about my cat as UTI’s can be fatal in tom cats. Hence, not eating healthy, snacking and munching on chocolate. However, I will keep your tips in mind and get stuck into my fasts next week. Hopefully, by that time, my cat will be getting back to his usual playful self. It sounds as if you are doing really well. Please keep us updated.
Hiya all. I’ve been interested to read that so many of you are using coconut oil. I’ve never used it before, just bought a pot. Of course, in the UK where I now live it’s not as generally available or cheap as I expect it is in SA.
I looked back through the posts and saw one saying “45 degrees on the stoep this morning…” That took me back, I was born and brought up in Zimbabwe. Christmas here was 10 degrees! But in Zim t seldom goes as high as 45, you must be in the Karoo or somewhere!
Was ill with a tummy upset yesterday. I think I ate some mushrooms that were past it, thought at the time they might be dodgy but had put anchovies in so couldn’t really taste them. How stupid. Had porridge oats and yogurt in the evening, which seemed to help. So it turned into a fast day anyway, as I didn’t have more than 500 cal!
Just been reading Dr Mosley’s Blood Sugar Diet. For reducing blood sugar in type 2 or pre-diabetics (which I am) he suggests choosing from two patterns: 800 cals every day if you can do that ok for 6-8 weeks; but if that’s too low to stick to, doing the 5:2 with 800 cal on two days and controlling the cals on the other days by cutting carbs, so more veg, fats and protein but no flour, sugar, alcohol etc. Weight loss will be slower but will still happen, and providing you keep off blood sugar inducing foods your blood sugar rates will normalise. Nuts and seeds, quinoa and brown rice, lots of multicoloured veg, full fat milk and yogurt, eggs for breakfast etc., advice on these similar to 5:2 book. For pre diabetics the advice in either of his books will work, though 800 cal daily for 8 weeks will rebalance liver fat and pancreas processes more efficiently it seems.
Lazycat, hope your little pal is lots better. It’s so upsetting when your pet gets sick. My dog died last year after several old age problems, each of which sent me into a bit of a spin. And when she died my weight went up sharply, giving up two walks a day and comfort eating instead. No dog now, still miss her. She was a lanky, thin Saluki, very fast. Sadly I never got to look like her!
Hi all. No I don’t have diabetes but a slightly higher than normal range fasting blood sugar, in other words in the pre diabetic range. This means that unless I use one of these diets I have a risk of becoming diabetic. So I’m combining the use of the Fast Diet and Dr M’s new Blood Sugar diet, both of which are effective in reducing things to normal range. So fruit in moderation is fine, though I stopped using fruit juices some years ago. Tropical fruits have more sugar, though I did have a mango last week and have another waiting in the fridge 😊 I won’t be making a habit of that but they’ve been ripening since before I started the diet. In the UK tropical fruit is sold so green, it takes ages to ripen up, and I ”stopped’ the second by fridging it so I didn’t have them too close together.
Good luck weighing and measuring tomorrow.
Dragon Mama, I have friends not very far from you, at Schoenmakerskop outside PE. Yes, it’s great being near the sea, I live in a seaside town in Devon in the SouthWest of the UK. Sea swimming for about 8 months of the year from April or May. But today there’s a high wind and storm beating on the window.
Hi all,
DragonMama, thank you for your kind thoughts regarding my cat. I think that he is improving slowly. I am still keeping a very close eye on him especially his visits to the litter tray.
Apricot, I am so sorry about your dog. It is devastating to lose a pet and I totally agree with you that it does knock you off kilter a bit. I am usually quite level headed until one of my cats are ill, then I become a total neurotic crazy lady.
Well, I am back on track tomorrow. The house is now free from all unhealthy snacks and I plan to spend part of Sunday cooking healthy meals for the week ahead. Honestly, it couldn’t be any worse than last week.
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Any of you know some details about?
But Dragonmama, as you know, not everything you eat has the same effect….sugars, refined carbs😱. Etc… I’m just reading The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz, fascinating. Much of it I knew in outline from elsewhere, including Dr M, Gary Taubes and others, but the detail becomes even more interesting. I used to be a researcher, so I know about data and partial selections etc. I remember having a long discussion with my son about such things when he was at uni, including poor ethics in relation to these.
Hope you are feeling better tomorrow. 80 km is a long way and tiring for both of you (2ways too). What a way to spend Sunday!
LazyCat, how’s your patient?🐈🐈🐈
I agree about diet books, DragonMama. When I first put on weight I tried Rosemary Conley (low fat), lost very little and gave up. I tried a couple of others but found I ate more, so just left it and put up with being a bit over weight. But then it went up quite sharply as I was comfort eating and in a busy job with car travel, I put on two stone. Tried the Dukan diet (high protein, moderate fat) which worked well for me and the weight stayed off for a few years, but then I had several large life changes, moved house several times, ate all the wrong sweet and floury things and bingo! I tried 5:2 but didn’t do it well so stopped it, but then decided to have another go. I think this time it’s going to suit me, couldn’t believe the size of the salad I had yesterday on FD, taken straight from the book, with egg and cheese too. Didn’t eat any more till 1230 today and no hunger.
The difficulty I have I believe is I’m a carbo-holic! I can start a packet of cheese biscuits or peanut cookies and before I know it I’ve finished the pack. Ditto ice cream. So I started this diet with a week where I didn’t fast but cut out all carb foods, bread, biscuits etc. my appetite dropped to my surprise, although I fell and had a couple of cakes but by the start of the next week I was mostly off foods that are mainly carb. Then I started the FDs. First one not good, ended up on 750 cal. Second I missed because I’d an upset tummy after accidentally eating some off mushrooms. Third went hugely well, not least because of advice from this chat room. I get hungry in the evenings so just had an egg and light miso soup for brunch. This time it worked, no picking at ten o’clock.
I do admire all you who’ve done this for ages. For me it’s all “halo effect” at the mo, so got to get used to it as lifestyle.
Hope you enjoyed pancake day yesterday, DragonMama! And everyone else here if they fancied them. Yes I like them too, far too much! Luckily yesterday I was on the road quite a bit, driving 80 miles each way to the choir I’m in. Mostly sensible but really craved crisps/chips. I bought a large pack of those veg ones and ate the lot on the way home. Oh dear. But at least it wasn’t a fast day, though almost 2000 cals consumed, more than my estimates on any calculator. The good thing about 5:2 is that you don’t have to restrict foods really ( though the book and the site differ on that, the book says don’t calory count except on fast days).
Hi dragonmama,lazycat and apricot! glad to hear that you are all sticking to this WOE despite some significant challenges. I had a revelation about this 52 despite having read so many times on posts that this is really a lifestyle change, not a diet. On a diet if we fall off we may get discouraged and quit & go back to destructive habits. But as 52 is not a diet we can carry on after a hi cal day,even expecting there will be high calorie days where we eat more than our tdee, which we will then correct by lo cal fast days. This is what naturally slim people(like my DH) do all the time without even thinking about it. We are all learning this healthy way of controlling our wt- some of you are faster learners than me,lol.
Crazy week for me last week at work, 1 staff down so had to work longer hours,plus lost our minds in a bidding war for a 20 acre horse property along the river. Some times life is like that! No wt loss to report, but 1/2″ off my waist.
Hope your little cat is feeling better LC- that sounds like a scary condition.
DM 6 years ago I suffered a series of kidney infections, they are the worst! Generally just feel terrible, hope you are improving. I recall one of the meds, Cipro, caused me to lose my apetite for a few days-but felt so awful.
Ps we did not win the bidding war . . .
Oh shame about the bidding war. It’s so frustrating when that happens, Init…
On the contrary, I’m a beginner on all this, haven’t sorted it yet at all and have only kept myself going for two weeks by constantly reading up on all the research. But as you say, it has to become normal eating, for life. I’m trying to stay off hi carb foods at present for two months, but will have to introduce them in moderation at some point.
Whew! Nearly blew it by accident today. I decided to have smoked mackerel salad late afternoon. Having not eaten all day, I prepared it, adding in a hard boiled egg left from yesterday to avoid waste. Realised after I’d eaten the lot that I now couldn’t have a bit of yogurt later in the evening to avoid hunger pangs. Hope I get through ok on tea and water!
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