@coda, doesn’t mean I am not losing the plot though…
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@coda, doesn’t mean I am not losing the plot though…
Day 10: Gloucestershire, UK: NFD….who would guess?
I can’t believe how kind you all have been after my post from yesterday. Thank you ALL of you, my dear fasting friends.
Coda: I won’t go away but, as GoldenSun suggests….I’ll just post NFD….desparately hoping to get re-motivated before even more weight piles on. Maybe the winter just depresses me.
PamelaV: I don’t weigh every day…in fact I’m scared to weigh at all lately!!
Pissupoosa: Sorry to hear you are also struggling….yes, let’s hold hands.
Thank you again….at least 15 of you said such kind and helpful things. I only wish I could live up to it. xx
Day 10 (2nd post)– Colorado, USA — FD
Weight is up just a tiny smidge after enjoying so much food on Sat, Sun & Mon. No worries, it will drop off quickly now that I’m back on my intermittent fasting.
Part of the beauty of 5:2, I know it works quite well and it’s so easy to catch any upward movement on the scale by getting right back onto my FDs! I truly believe that this WOL is the answer to no more yo-yoing of my weight.
I am just several pounds away from reaching my goa. With daily check-ins on the scale, I will set a top cap number, when I approach it, simply add a FD immediately. This WOL will make maintenance possible. I also see it as a way to enjoy my holidays or vacations, then come home & easily return to goal…. At least, that’s how I’m envisioning it! 😀
Plus, today actually feels good doing liquids & letting my stomach/ intestines rest again. At the very outset of 5:2, I never would’ve guessed I’d look forward to my Fast Days, but I certainly do now!
Day 10, NYC, NFD…
FD went more easily than expected. Down a little bit from vacation…but boy it came back on so quickly!!
Scrambled eggs on a small corn tortilla for breakfast, and some nuts here and there. Dinner will be sausage and spaghetti squash. Must find a reasonable, small lunch to stay in TDEE.
College son went back to school on Sunday. Yesterday he sent me a photo of his t-shirt drawer, which he had organized in the KonMari method. This kid barely has a sliver of carpet showing in his room. Major achievement!!!!
Ciren…one step at a time.
Ciren– I’ve so enjoyed reading your progress in these Challenges over the months. And you’ve always amazed me with your strength (delivering for Royal Post has got to be such a physically demanding job!) while also keeping to your FDs.
Stay away from the scales for now, if you must. But don’t stay away from this thread! You’ve got so many of us cheering you on here. We’d miss you & we’re not giving up on you bouncing back!
Across the ocean internet ((Hugs)) to you!
@Ciren 2 Glad to see your post. I’m sure the winter can depress you. I can be a bit that way myself – there are days when I just want to pull the duvet over my head. I find it helps if you just put your jacket on and get outside even for only 20 minutes. Daylight and fresh air can be a terrific tonic – even on a drab cloudy day.
My son suffers a little from depression in the winter and last year I bought him one of those lamps. He sits in front of it each morning while he’s having his breakfast and morning coffee and he finds that just 20 minutes of that light helps him to feel better during the day.
PS. There’s nothing wrong with an NFD day. 😊
K-Lo– that’s awesome your son is so organized! Great habits to start young!
I didn’t pitch much of my clothes on my first closet & dresser round of KonMari. I’m getting close to goal weight & didn’t want to discard items I’m nearly able to fit into again. But I followed her method of organizing & folding. Had never seen that before! (Good youtube videos for additional pointers.)
My Dh was so impressed with my tidy dresser, he asked for some guidance. Ended up with boxes of his clothes to donate to Salvation Army & he now keeps his drawers KonMaried. I was shocked he made the effort. Looks fantastic! And he’s kept it up for 8 months now.
Day 10 SW WA USA NFD
Had a good FD yesterday even though I was home due to weather. Planning to make today a 16:8.
Somehow I missed the “Woosh” people are referring to. I thought I was reading every post. Can someone direct me to the link?
Peli – if you haven’t read the FastDiet Book yet, you might do so. It is encouraging. I’m also reading Dr. Fung’s Guide to Fasting – it really encouraged me yesterday.
Speaking of encouraging – thank you to all who contribute to make this such a “you can do it” forum! Ciren – stay with us. I so came to appreciate you as I joined here in November. Sometimes it’s our time to give; sometimes to receive.
Day 10 Portugal FD
At this point in my FD I am struggling. On my second b2b fast and can’t wait until dinner! I will weigh myself tomorrow am for first time in ages. I have been putting it off but I feel I want to get into habit of daily weighing so that I don’t get into this position again!
I did a fitness blender 37 minute workout this am which felt good – mixture of HIIT and strength.
Happy Margo, my son is quite ADD and has trouble with organization. This drawer may be a major breakthrough….or it maybe something he did to amuse himself and will never do it again. We shall see. For me, I have found that one thing leads to another. I will certainly take the full six months to get through my house.
My dresser remains “tidy” and I km’d my pantry. Wow! WOrking on the front closet. Hubby is resisting the folding but he is getting rid of stuff.
Day 10 – Cumbria UK – FD
Well maybe what they say about starving a cold works – I am starting to feel a bit more human now……..my nasty sore throat/cold is feeling a bit better and my hamstring/Baker’s Cyst injury is also feeling less painful but I do miss my exercise of walking and yoga……
Today is my second B2B FD in a row – yesterday was no breakfast, 500cal lunch and water or tea with a splash of skimmed milk until supper tonight – planning a 500cal chicken and vegetable soup this evening and continuing on water and tea until tomorrow sometime – will see how I feel.
Feeling back on track after the weekend where I went a AWOL with drink and food – no alcohol intake planned this week until the weekend
@ciren2 – so glad to see that you have posted today – keep the faith and you will find your way back x
This WOL is amazing – we all find variations that work for us and help us get back on track – Have you thought of trying some 16:8 days??? they might be a good compromise until you feel you can tackle a FD
@happymargo – you are doing so well – I’m with you – after some over indulging a FD feels so good
@erika45 – some distraction therapy will help keep you on track this evening – keep the faith and you will get there
@back2thefuture – glad you are on the road to recovery
For all those on a FD or a B2B FDs – we can do this – holding hands across the globe
@bert1802 – Your statement is spot on for our WOL “This isn’t a competition to lose weight but a challenge to change our thought process on food.”
Georgia/USA/Day10/NFD:
I had a great day Monday. My fast days go much easier when I stay busy. Work was super busy and I held off on my meals until supper time. Stopped by subway on the way home and enjoyed a 6″ and a bag of sun chips. Still under my TDEE for my fast days. I often think when my friends who are struggling with weight issues of how I felt before I committed to this WOL. If I had committed sooner, I could have saved myself some serious stress. But, such is life! Have a great Tuesday everyone!
Day 10- Ireland -FD
Hi all, this is my first proper log in. Started a new job so have been feeling very stressed. Bit low today, last weigh was 27 Dec and this morning I was up almost 3lbs. So I really need to get on track on stop the numbers going up. My first goal is 6lbs hoping to have this gone by beginning of March. I don’t want to be unrealistic. Have 320 kcals left for dinner tonight. I haven’t caught up on all of the thread but I’m glad I joined, you all seem like a great group. Thanks for reading ☺
New York/USA day 10: NFD
@ciren2 – so happy to see you posted back to us. I meant to be helpful when I said don’t weigh yourself every day, but you mentioned above that you actually don’t weigh yourself every day – so I’ll just say, didn’t mean to sound so advice-y when i didn’t have the full story. so — just, hang in there. We know how hard this is and how much it’s composed of two steps forward, one-and-a-half steps back, until we finally get to where we’re going. so hang in there.
@bigbooty — thanks for the encouragement. It means a lot to struggle and then to hear someone say something hopeful. 🙂
@quebecoise — I’m so with you — on my last fast day I cheated (well, anyway, cheated according to the rules I set for myself) and had a small glass of wine.. because, like you, I find it a way of keeping my morale up. 🙂 I feel civilized, and so was happy to see I’m not the only one with that perspective on the odd glass of wine. Or the not so odd.
@bert1802 — (from your entry now on p. 18) — very wise words. Keep your thoughts coming. they are very much appreciated.
@walden410 — I struggle with perfectionism too, and really resonated with your statement that celebrating good but not perfect attempts in this WOL (finally figured out what that acronym meant and I’m so pleased with myself!!) are things to be celebrated. yay us!
@lisa.alma — aww, it’s hard when you’re having a hard day. pat yourself on the back for these two huge achievements: 1) you’re still in the game, still with us, and 20 — and this is very big — you’re being honest. Being honest is, for me, a difficult thing with food. So: tell yourself some very nice things, and be kind to yourself, not only do you deserve it, but we all deserve it. Affirm how much energy and time and hope you’ve put into this and that it’s not easy. Bert said something on p. 18 about not expecting to be fantastic at something right off the bat. And for some efforts, it might take up to a few months (and years) to even really understand what is needed to start to make progress towards a complicated goal. And make no mistake, losing weight in this culture of plenty and sugar and tempting ads is complicated and tricky. When I look back at my first riding lessons earlier (five months ago) I have to laugh. I really didn’t even understand what my instructor was saying to me, much less know how to execute her instructions, much less how to execute her instructions with speed and accuracy and sensitivity… etc. And now I look back and realize — oh, that’s what she meant! Or, That’s why the horse wasn’t ‘cooperating’ with my “cues” — they were contradictory and vague. so of course she didn’t know what to do when I used my legs/reins/body position/heels to tell her things — I had to get my act together, and it took a long time — several months, actually. So — many things take a LONG TIME to put together so that they work, and work smoothly. You have to give them time. Be patient with yourself the way you would be patient with someone you loved well.
My FD yesterday was not so successful. Meant to stick to 500 calories, but when all was said and done, it was closer to 1000.
Then, later that night, I thought, well, shoot. A year ago, if I’d been able to stick to 1000 calories in one day I would have blown myself away in being impressed. So, even when my fast day doesn’t go exactly as planned, I’m telling myself: progress. It’s a journey. You’re learning about yourself. And 1000 calories is still a success.
Anyway, great to read and see how everyone is doing.
@annemarilyn WHOOSH
http://100down.org/the-whoosh-effect/
@uptipp – I may be slightly based but I think this is just a great group too!
@Ciren remember there is no pressure – relax and……exhale!
Day 11 , Melbourne Aust. NFD, still 86.6 kg yay!!!!!!!!
Yesterday I kept to my plan of lots of fluids, ate not that fantastically but stayed under TDEE, few snacks were my downfall but what I did snack on I cut my usual portions by a LOT, I’m a snacker and that’s OK as long as I am sensible. I had left overs of day 10 dinner that I served for the kids for lunch, 2 home made cookies which I cut the sugar in the recipe , lots of fruit, came home and nibbled on some nut mix with a glass of wine, dinner was a lamb chop, chips and tomato salad and then I felt peckish later so some dried mango . But I had nearly 3lt of water! I think that’s been my downfall is not enough water and that hasn’t helped .
Sorry I haven’t had time to reply to people’s posts. I am reading them all but I get about 10 mins in the morning before I need to get up to post and check in. I’ve picked up some great tips and advice and you all seem so lovely and supportive!
Day 11 FD Gippsland, Australia
doing OK. Seem to be stalling a bit on the weight loss, as it hasn’t moved for a few days now.
It has been too darn hot to do much exercise, so now the weather has eased off a bit I need to get out walking again.
That might give the weight a kick in the guts and tell it to go!!
Back at you @ciren2!!
Still day 10
PamelaV – I appreciate your positive, uplifting comments. You mention the difficulty with being honest when it comes to food. You got me there – recently I so badly wanted to be able to post a downward movement of the scale, that I had a difficult time posting the truth. The movement has been downward so nicely with this WOL that I hadn’t realized what it would feel like when it wasn’t there. Your comment made me see myself.
I’m to a better place as I’ve had the wonderful input of this forum. Thanks to Coda for reposting the hWoosh link http://100down.org/the-whoosh-effect/. That article was so encouraging.
JEM3487 – you might find the Whoosh article a pick-me-up. It makes a lot of sense.
Day 10 USA (Illinois)
NFD today. Happy to have gotten on my scale here at home and still have maintained 160# during this whole holiday season. Yeah! That was my goal after reaching my goal weight back in mid November. Now to decide if I really want to lose more. Hmm, not sure.
We all have our own idiosyncrasies with our eating, don’t we?
AT — I am glad for your ‘starving the cold’ working! But too bad about the baker’s cyst/hamstring issue. I have a dear friend who struggled with that same type of cyst for about a year, then with knee replacement it was resolved. Hope yours is easier to resolve.
Ciren – good to see you back again!
Hi to you Newbies in the challenge!
If you are a Newbie and started with this challenge you are now entering a critical phase of your new diet. I already see signs of it in some of your posts. And if you don’t get through the phase you will quit the diet and fail to lose the weight you want to lose – maybe ‘again’.
The phase is doubt that the diet works, and wondering what you should do differently to make it work better.
Assuming you are doing 5:2 correctly – go to bed, get up, eat 5/600 cal. during your waking hours, go to bed, get up and eat to your TDEE or less two times a week – you need to understand that the average weight loss on 5:2 is about a pound a week. (If you aren’t doing 5:2 correctly, you might try it for awhile – it really works!)
That means that if in your first week you lost, say, 4 pounds (whee! great!! excited!!!) and in the second week say, maybe 3 pounds (nice! wonderful! wish it would go faster!) you will have lost 7 pounds in two weeks. That means that if you are going to experience the average weight loss on the diet of one pound a week, sometime in the next two months you may not lose much, if any, weight in five of the next eight weeks.
If you don’t understand and accept this possibility, you will become disheartened and quit. I already see people saying their rate of weight loss has slowed and that they need to eat different foods, or exercise more, or try a different ‘eating pattern’, to get their weight loss going again.
But if you are doing 5:2 correctly, your weight loss will resume – but just at a slower pace. You don’t need to do anything new or different. And doing something different will not necessarily speed things up.
Just give 5:2 at least two months before you try something else. Long experience shows if you give up and start trying different things you may read about on this and other sites you end up confused, no longer on any diet, and at about the same weight as when you started.
This illustrates the weight loss ‘pattern’ you may experience: https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/really-no-weight-loss/
And this answers most of your questions about 5:2: https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/the-basics-for-newbies-your-questions-answered/
Good Luck!
Sometimes it helps to rephrase things instead @pocket of feeling down about the things you ‘can’t’ have. Turn it around – I can have anything I want but I just don’t want it. Jason Vale juice master told this story in his book. A friend who was following his 7 day juice plan phoned to say she really wanted some chocolate. Have some chocolate then he said and hung up. She phoned back and said but I don’t want any, so he told her then don’t and hung up. She phoned him again and asked why he was doing this. He said about changing it round and instead of having a mental tantrum about something she didn’t want in the first place to replace I can’t have with I don’t want. Mindset is half the battle.
Saying that my fast day morphed into a low day of just below 1,000 cals not as good as I had originally planned but better than it could have been.
@simcoeluv Thank you as always for dropping in and providing a timely reminder about this WOL.
London | Day 10 | NFD (again!)
So, yeah it turned into an NFD – tried my best though 🙁
Thank you for all the support and love people. I know I’m not alone.
@Ciren – hang in there please. I thought of you today, willing you not to drop off 🙂
Right, got to go – long and stressful day…
tomorrow is another day. Let’s hope it brings better things (for all of us) 🙂
Day 10 / Sweden / FD
First fast day this week went really well. I’m thinking of making it a b2b tomorrow but I haven’t decided yet.
I weigh myself everyday, even at the risk of the emotional drama it often brings. I know from past experience that if I don’t weigh myself for a few weeks, I will let things slide and my weight will go up.
The funny thing is, even if I know that, as I think @bert says, “the scale lies!”, I still let it get to me when the numbers are up. I started Jan 1st at 96 kg and thought that I would share my results every Sunday morning but when I weighed myself Sunday and found that I was still 96, I couldn’t bring myself to post it (even if I was pretty sure that the weight was mostly water). It turns out the weight was just water and this morning, before my first FD, my weight was down to 95 kg.
Over the last 9 weeks, my weight has gone done every week except the week between Christmas and New Years so that’s definitely cause for celebration. The FD are getting easier and using MFP to track my caloric intake everyday allows me to eat the foods I like, but in moderation. Still feeling positive about this and I’m hopeful that I can really turn it into a WOL that works for me.
Keep up the good work wherever you are out in the world.
Day 10 Sydney NFD
It’s going to be a hot one in Sydney today with 40 degrees forecast so I will definitely be keeping my fluids up and drinking lots of water.
Looking forward to tomorrow’s FD. Feeling less bloated and somewhat lighter just by getting back on track and eating mindfully on my NFD’s this week.
Just checking in for today: jan10: FD
I have had my dinner and cup of tea (with 2 mini Lindtt eggs) but still at 496 cal. I had prawn stir fry with rice for dinner. I’m starting to get right back into my routine and everyday people in the office ask me about the diet and comment on how well I look. It’s all the motivation I need to get me through depressing Jan. I’ve still not had any alcohol and hoping i will resist again this weekend. We shall see! Fridays are always a little tricky and it’s difficult to turn down post Work Friday drinks and miss out on socialising.. it’s just no fun drinking non alcoholic stuff when everyone’s glugging down the vino and having a bit of office goss. Well I’ll have to wait and see what happens…on the negative side: I am starting to get pains all over my body and feel cold every now again, which I know is due to not eating all day, but, what keeps me going is knowing that I will have my yummy 500 cal dinner tomorrow and take the pains as a good sign of my body adjusting (it’s either that or working too long on very uncomfortable office chairs!!)
Hope everyone’s doing well. 🙂 Good night 💤
Day 10…. Florida….NFD
Okay, I have a few things, I’m not sure if they are issues or well me just being me.
1st….. my clothes are driving me crazy. Let’s talk about this shirt. It clearly wasn’t warm enough, and if that wasn’t enough, it fit better today then it did a couple weeks ago.
Now my pants, they have really weird wrinkles in them. When I sit down they are bunching in the oddest places. I mean I talking about 3to 4 inches of extra fabric bunched up around my belly and upper thighs. These were my nice fitting comfy jeans.
Not that I want to share this information with you all but I think it’s important that you all understand the problems I’m having today. Someone got in my underwear drawer and stretched them all out. Even with pants on, I tugged them up all day. Seriously does the underwear stretcher person know how expensive these were!
And to top it all off, I wore neon green socks to work, that didn’t match my out fit.
#2…. I’m on a NFD, and I had no idea what to eat. So, I had a pop tart for lunch. Then it upset my belly. I’m really finding it difficult to eat on NFD. It’s not like there isn’t anything to eat. I’m just tend to eat very healthy on FD, so when NFD rolls around I want something different but what is the problem, I’m having. I don’t want healthy, I don’t want junk….. I’m fixing my boys chicken parm tonight and that doesn’t even sound good, and I make an evil chicken parm. My fear is that, this will continue onto tomorrow my FD and through my off the wagon.
I’m totally mystified at the horrible day, I’m having. I can’t wait to go to bed! Ugg!
Okay, I have to be honest here. I knew my socks didn’t match my outfit, but I wore them anyways because well, there neon green!
Ciren….. I’m so glad your still with us!
Simcoelov….. I just love it when you pop in….. even though I know it was directed at the newbies….. it still puts a lot into prospective for us that have been here a minute or two.
Okay, well….. I’m going to go in and throw these darn clothes in the garbage, choke down some dinner, then go to bed!
Day 11 – NFD – Tokyo Japan, 77.4 kg
I’m just breaking my fast that went 62 hours. While I would like to try and push a longer fast, it would really irk my wife and I don’t need that. 🙂 I’m not looking forward to 5 NFDs in a row and I’m interested in seeing how high my weight will go. I’m think 81 kg, hopefully not more. After that I’ll have a normal week and then a short week before heading overseas to the US. I’m still thinking of what to do.
I managed to get an aisle seat on the trip over so maybe I’ll do a fast on the flight over and just start eating on the US schedule. That really helped me with jet lag last time I did that.
Day 11 – Perth, W.Aust – NFD – weigh in day – 74.8kg (165 lbs)
Got through another FD yesterday pretty well, did get a bit hungry late in the day, but again half a carrot and a cup of black tea did the trick till dinner. I also find keeping moving helps me a lot, I think you’re supposed to reduce activities on FD, but if I did that I’d just be thinking about food the whole time I’m awake. So, just doing moderate activity regularly throughout the day really helps me get through, then I’m also tired and I can easily sit and read for a while (seems to be always something food related though) I and also sleep really well.
I did read something quite interesting yesterday that might be of interest to those who are fasting for health concerns. There appears to be some emerging research into the effects of increased blood sugars and brain function, especially Alzheimers. So if you’re up for a different type of read have a look at this article.
http://thatsugarfilm.com/blog/2016/12/06/is-alzheimers-a-diabetic-disorder-of-the-brain/
Have a great day everyone, and stay strong.
@Yirrakuri – your symptoms sound like a low level of potassium – very very common for those following a keto diet and essentially, that is what the 5:2 plan is at least on FDs. I am guessing you are making more trips to the restroom with all the extra fluid you are drinking and that is a huge contributor to shortages.
Most supplements provide 99mg / tab which is a joke! I know of some people taking 5,000 mg per day. I would start with 500mg and see how you feel. STAT.
By they way – Potassium CITRATE – is the type you are looking for.
I know everyone is giving advice on a number of things but this truly is a very likely contributor to your pain…that, and those crappy office chairs 😉
2nd post..
Just a quick update…. after laundering my clothes the irritating ones when into the never wear again box, and the shirt got hung up.
The kids enjoyed dinner, I ended up with just eggs and toast. It’s the only thing sounded good.
I’m right around 1000 calories. Good enough for someone who just didn’t have in her.
I am, however, quite concerned about my eating and food thoughts today. I’m hoping I’m not on a dangerous road. Tomorrow is my FD, nice salad for lunch and whatever my DH cooks for dinner. it’s his night to cook. I’m okay going into tomorrow but I’m quite curious about what Thursday a NFD will consist of. Will these feeling of uneasiness continue or Am I just being difficult with myself?
I have never in my life been so bothered by the little things, even my humor has been off today!
I guess today just was not my day!
Hi everyone just came across this page as I was yet again scrolling the internet for diets that actually work (whilst eating a late night sandwich ) iv tried calorie counting the c9 detox . Sugar free diet ( that one was the worst) amongst many others as always I start of great but I just enjoy food to much .as soon as I even think the word diet I’m hungry !! Lol from what iv read so far this sounds very achievable I’m looking forward to trying this and I think it’s wonderful that there is a online community. I’m 36 and currently at 9stone 12 but really want to get back down to 8 stone . My eating habits haven’t changed in fact I eat a lot less now than I did when I was lighter but since having a hysterectomy a few years ago I think it’s maybe my metabolism slowing down? Anyway I am so up for this challenge:)
Day 10 – California
This is my second fast day. I waited until dinner to eat and just had a large bowl of stir-fried vegetables. I’m pretty sure it was under 500 cal. I did have some cream in my coffee earlier in the day. I seem to do better on fast days than regular. When I eat, my appetite increases as the day goes along. When I fast, it stays pretty low.
@bert1802 – so sorry to hear you are struggling today! You are such a great part of the support engine on this forum and now we all need to send good vibes your way!!
For those of you that have the following symptoms I just found a good video that covers the following:
Fatigue – low on B5
Cramps and body aches – low on Potassium and possibly salt
Bloating – purified bile salts should help (likely gas from a quick increase in fat from carbs)
Sleep issues – low in magnesium and calcium
Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEXglHDrPs
Hope this helps! Our bodies are going through some serious changes and will likely benefit from some extra TLC in the form of vitamins and minerals.
Stay Strong!
Day 11 Waikato NZ FD
@bert1802 your posts are a delight to read. Thankyou. @rocy65 Poor you I hope you’ve recovered now. @laddie10 lovely encouraging post. Haven’t listened to Jason Fung yet must do it. @ciren2 Please don’t give up I think a lot of us can relate exactly to what you are going through.I have struggled, really struggled but a long last I hope I’ve turned the corner. FD today and so far only coffee with a little soy milk. Not even hungry which is amazing.Please stay Ciren2 I can’t believe I feel so “not hungry” I wasn’t even tempted when I made date scones for the staff at work ( I cook at a community hospital and the staff get m.tea provided).Not sure what I’ll have for dinner OH is having fish but I just don’t fancy it. Thankyou all for the support you offer.
Day 12 | NFD | Singapore
Day not finished yet but just wanted to report on weigh in results –
starting weight 50.7kg (3 weeks ago)
Today 49.1kg – almost 1lb/week loss!
Very excited, many previous diets tried and failed. Finally something that is working! As I don’t have much weight to lose, it’s been extra hard prior to this to even shift 0.1kg.
🙂
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