Nope. No Supplements**. Not on Fast Days, not on Slow Days. I’m 68 years old and the whole supplement industry is rubbish. If you eat a healthy diet on all days, you do not need supplements. That’s the opinion of my MD as well as my son with the PhD in Biology.

**I do take a Vitamin D since I live at a high latitude and need to bolster bone health. Recommended by MD.

Honestly, I’ve never heard of the thing on your list. Wouldn’t know what they are for.

Good job on your weight loss this month! Keep up the good work.

As my son the Biologist would say, “Remember the placebo effect.”
Healthy gums come from brushing, flossing, and WaterPiking.
Sorry about the UTI you had. No antibiotics or high-acid diet instead?
For brain health, the Fast Diet builds new brain cells [clinically proven]. What evidence of Oxaloacetate helping? The .com raises red flags for me.

Bottom line: you asked for opinions about supplements, and I gave you mine. Up to you what to do next.

Good luck losing weight by Fasting.

I only take D Aspartic Acid and Creatine Mono. Caffeine and Beta Alamine pre workout.

I generally hit my macro and micros on NFD.

I’m with Fasting_me on this one! I don’t believe the average person has any need to take artificial supplements (vit D in the NH being the possible exception). You should be able to get everything you need from what you eat. So, unless your doctor diagnoses a deficiency which needs correcting, I’d recommend saving money on pills and spending it instead on a healthy balanced diet.

In theory you can get what you need from foods but in practice today foods are grown in soils that don’t have the necessary minerals so neither do the foods we eat.

Almost all of us are chronically low in vital minerals like magnesium and zinc and of course D3.

Not only don’t we get enough of these minerals but we also have low stomach acid so we don’t properly absorb them and should be taking Hcl as well.

There are very high quality supplements available. Canada and many European countries have very strict laws governing labeling and testing.

I do agree that we don’t need more protein sups and weight loss sups are generally rubbish.

Of course we are all the exception to the rule. The truth is unless you’ve been tested u don’t know. I attended a nutrition seminar for athletes nutritionists and trainers. We were all tested for d and red blood cell magnesium and zinc. 50% tested sub optimal for d 80% for magnesium and zinc. These where people that are well educated and still they where deficient.

Now I supplement more d magnesium and zinc and I maintain optimum levels by testing every six months

Well there’s certainly a lot of unknowns and a lot of assumptions all round.

From what I’ve read of the research, for otherwise healthy people with balanced diets, multivitamins don’t provide any obvious benefit.

So I’m not going to line the pockets of big business by taking supplements on the off chance that I’m deficient in some nutrient (and that deficiency is dangerous to my health), and that the supplement I’ve randomly chosen happens to be the right one to correct the deficiency.

But then I’m not easily parted from my money…😀

My work/ education background is lifestyle healthcare, although I no longer practice. Throughout my working life I saw very few clients or coworkers who consistently ate the balanced diet they imagined. Thankfully random supplementation is far less common here in the UK than in North America.

“I attended a nutrition seminar for athletes nutritionists and trainers. We were all tested for d and red blood cell magnesium and zinc. 50% tested sub optimal for d 80% for magnesium and zinc. These where people that are well educated and still they where deficient.”

With respect none of those job titles indicates to me any more than minimal knowledge on healthy eating and dietetics. There would be no need for a professional who is well-educated in nutrition to attend such a seminar.

IME athletes and most Personal Trainers come from the sports end rather than the healthcare end of the fitness spectrum. A shocking proportion get their diet and supplement ‘information’ from fitness magazines and from one another.

‘Nutritionist’ is not a protected title in many countries. Practically anyone can style themselves as one. Here in the UK well-educated professionals include ‘registered dieticians’ and ‘registered nutritionists’.

Rant over! 😮

Snedger: Dr Mosley addresses micronutrient supplements (minerals & essential fatty acids, not just vitamins) in ‘The Fast 800’ book; I assume this is covered in earlier editions too.

A balanced and varied wholefood diet is much more nutritious than the standard US/ UK diet, even with much lower overall calories. Furthermore *some* micronutrients can be stored in body tissues, so short periods of dietary insufficiency are not necessarily problematic.

Wholefoods that are particularly nutrient-dense include oily fish, molluscs such as oysters, organ meats such as liver, seeds, nuts, cocoa. These wholefoods do feature in ‘The Fast 800’ recipes and meal plans.

HTH.

My doctor says that nutrients are better absorbed through food rather than supplements. I’ve even read an article a while back from The Atlantic by their resident doctor that supplements are a waste of time. It’s odd though that my friends’ doctors have recommended them supplements, seems there is no consensus among physicians.

The Cancer Code by Dr Fung has a section on supplements & cancer. Short version – taking supplements has been scientifically proven to increase the rate of cancerous tumour growth. He mainly discusses vitamins & minerals in that section/chapter.
Book is likely available at your local library, although it was published fairly recently.
I’ve seen too many studies discounting the benefits of supplements to bother & as per above they are not all benign

I used to take various various vitamin and mineral supplements but was influenced by Pfr Ian Frazer (developer of the Human Papilloma Virus vaccine that is now radically reducing cervical cancer around the world) when he lamented people spending their money on vitamins with no proven benefit and possible harm, when that money could be so much better spent. Basically, the whole vitamin industry is primarily an exercise in fleecing people who are concerned about their health for vast profits, with no benefit whatsoever for those people – it is primarily a multibillion dollar rort (a scam).
I don’t extend this view to people who may have a condition diagnosed by a doctor where a supplement has been proven to be of benefit – but this is rare.
I also acknowledge that some mineral supplements may be of benefit, such as taking magnesium when you are losing a lot through sweat during exercise in summer.
So my message is: Don’t buy vitamins – spend the money on fresh fruit and veg and generally improving your diet. I take the occasional magnesium tablet and nothing else – and I’m healthier than ever. I’m very rarely sick and if I do ever catch anything I bounce back within days.
I have been on the 5&2 for 7.5 years and eat a vegetable rich, low meat diet.