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  • Morning/evening all.

    Smiffy, I’m not worried at all about the fruit cake. I made it myself, recipe testing for Christmas, and intended to keep it for a few days and then taste, but the house smelt of cake and I couldn’t resist 😆
    It is now in a tin out of sight and I shall try to feed it to the electrician and the painters when they come!

    FD today. Weather forecast wet, wet, wet, so I guess I’ll have no excuse whatsoever to leave the housework and pile of ironing any longer 🙁

    Have a good day/evening everyone.

    One important thing that we need to remember is that the ratio of the calorie intake to the calories burnt needs to be looked after.However, at times the height and the weight of a person may need to be proportionate. Thus, make sure how much your body should weigh and then decide upon the steps that you need to take.

    Amazon you did well to only have one piece 🙂

    I succumbed to a plain donut today … even though a FD I ate it and just checked and thankfully I’m still under 400 cals for today, so pleased that my dinner is very low cal as was everything else I’ve had today (as in basically no cals other than dinner). Not worth having a donut which has as many calories in it as my dinner … it’s better to have dinner 😀 oh well, lesson learnt!

    I’ll go back and catch up with everyone else soon 😀

    Amazon and Aussie – well done! We’ve all got to have a little treat now and again – even if it’s a fast day. That’s the great thing about 5.2. So flexible and we don’t feel deprived x

    Good morning FastTrackers,
    Hello CarlosCount – welcome but I think you are preaching to the converted here. Most of us have been dieting a long time and are fully aware of intake/ burn plus TDEE . However there are also many of us ( not) prepared to accept everything we read and have experimented with dieting and restricting or introducing foods that work well for our own metabolisms. Even though I take a minimum of two hours exercise per day, one hour aerobic and one hour walking I cannot exceed 1200 cals without weight gain. It’s a tried and tested fact over several years. Without fasting I was lucky to lose 2 lb per month. I gain very rapidly if I exceed my quota e.g. 6 lb gain last week on holiday where I averaged 1800 to 2000 cals per day. I still ate healthy salads and cooked veg but added cooked breakfast( not full english) but not porridge, salad and fish at lunch as opposed to soup and fish and veg dinner( no puds). Not exactly living it up with a rich and varied diet. But battered veg was delicious and I had icecream 4 times, I also had many cafe lattes and 4 alcoholic drinks( not usually consumed here).
    According to Doctors and dieticians I have no physical reason for low consumption of calories.
    This is the last time I am saying this, it is not all about the numbers. Some foods burn more efficiently than others. Fish being one of them. Carbohydrates and sugars are a nightmare for me – they slow progress.
    No one plan works for everyone and experimenting is essential to success and maintenance.
    I am not ranting just explaining the theory of sharing ideas on this thread. We tell others what works and aim to lose 2 lb per week. We all go about this in a healthy way and don’t encourage going below 1200 cals on non fast days. Also we encourage being active to build muscle and ensure flexibility. Water intake, around 4 pints per day or 8 glasses is very helpful and cleansing. Most important is getting a minimum of one hour outside daily, raises the spirits, even if it’s in the rain.
    Another pound off today guys, happy, happy girl – didn’t think it would be this easy to lose holiday gain. 5 lbs since last Friday – hooray! ADF is great.

    Ply, how you doing chum?
    SAMM, sounds like you are on a roll
    You do realise I can probably call you cousins now, ha ha

    Amazon – you are doing so well, credit to the thread

    Weemam – I have been there with noisy neighbours, hell isn’t it, I had ones that used to scream and shout at each other for hours. I actually bough sound mufflers, they worked great. I just could not stand the tension, my own family are sulkers or walk out and slam the door types. I just don’t see the point of arguing for hours. A walk in the fresh air seems to resolve matters so much quicker and helps you regain perspective. I hope your neighbours are not knocking down support walls.
    Wishing you some peace.

    Time for dog walk now, leads on from now on. Happy fasting or feeding all

    Everyone else,

    Nothing personal if I don’t mention you by name, just poor memory when there are a lot of comments.

    Love you all and grateful for your support. Tv viewing comments were interesting, seems we have no real addictive viewers of soaps, personally I cannot be bothered with most. I like historical dramas though even if they are loosely based on real events.

    My ex and my brother are writing ‘murder mystery’ plays at the moment. What would be your perfect crime? Death by chocolate? Teehee

    Nicky, great work keeping under 400 cals for your FD 🙂

    Hi Smiffy, YAY down another 1.5lb so now you’re officially 11st & a bit 😀 😆

    Welcome Schouke & CarlosCont.

    Hi to Ply, PVE, SAMM, RT, Wee, Amazon and everyone else, so much going on as Jojo says it’s hard to mention everyone by name and it’s nothing personal if I don’t mention you by name 🙂

    Hi jojo,

    I’m afraid it would more likely be death by hummus (or perhaps falafel) for me….!

    Haha thanks Aussie – 11st and a very big bit, but I’m getting there. Jojo – my death would almost certainly be by Kettle Chips!

    Death by anything with chick peas sounds rather windy 😆

    It would have to be cheese and biscuits for me.

    I agree with the cheese. There are more than 300 French cheeses, so you could have a unique experience everyday before your unfortunate demise.
    I saw a black humour French film some years ago called La grande bouffe ( a big meal in non-elegant French) where these guys got together with an excellent chef with the idea of eating themselves to death which they did enjoyably.

    Hi Tangatawiwi,
    Food addicts in every country then. There are certainly worse ways to leave this mortal coil but I prefer small quantity, high end cuisine, sadly can’t afford it. I only like strong cheeses, smellier the better. I would go down with a Cornish pasty in one hand and asparagus and cream cheese sandwich in the other( white bread of course). I know, there is no accounting for taste. They are dream scenario only though guys, promise. Might even wash them down with a baileys creme, oh dear! No hope for me, heart attack waiting around the corner.
    Actually I could probably be ‘dun in’ by being forced to skip for 10 minutes. Have you tried this challenge? I almost needed mouth to mouth resuscitation.
    Has anyone noticed their opinion about fat people changing, I don’t think I used to notice them because I was one of them, now I just want to tell them to start fasting now. It’s so sad, many of them have tried and failed so many times they have given up, I know that feeling.
    Come on Michael make a weekly documentary to help everyone get the right information.

    Hi JoJO
    The French cheese with the smelliest reputation is munster. I haven’t eaten it in years. My ex French husband used to find bits of cheese long forgotten in the fridge and eat with alacrity. He found that even camembert gets some flavour 6 months after its best by date!
    But the smelliest thing I have eaten is a tropical fruit called durian. According to one guide book, it is like eating the most delicious strawberry tart in the most disgusting public toilet (you probably have to come to France to find the latter)
    It is my up day today. I fasted well yesterday and are on the losing curve again. Just 1 kg short of my October objective. It is raining and I am sorting out clothes today and have one pile of too bigs, one of ok now, and some dating to the 1990s which will be ok in 10kg time.
    We are caught in rural France today with all roads closed due to works. Tomorrow my down day will be miserable (but effective) as the food is running out and I don’t feel like walking 11 kilometres(and 500m in altitude) down to buy a bit of food.
    I hope you are all right after your dog scare of the other day. The dogs here are lucky as they can just roam at their will.
    Have you started the ADF again?
    Good fasting to fasters of today.
    KiwiWiwi

    I love cheese, but a Cornish pasty on the side from that tiny little shop tucked away in a back street in Looe where all the locals go, would be fab 🙂

    I didn’t buy cheese for many years as I had to have some every time I opened the fridge. I started buying it again last year when I had been doing 5:2 for a couple of months.I am now able to eat it in the same way normal people do, AND there are no teeth marks in it 😆

    Good morning all from a sunny cold Scotland.

    off shortly to get the flu jab ,Ross getting his too . Then off to Matalan to return some stuff, .. No noise as yet from next door BUT they can’t do what they have to do without making some noise . They are really such a lovely young couple . I found out the young guys Granny is a good friend of mine . I jokingly told him if he is trouble I will tell his gran lol.
    I am just so pleased they are so nice . I have bought them a nice wee welcome to your house gift :).
    Death by Ice Cream would be my favourite lol . And maybe the outside crust of the bread toasted with butter lol.

    Have a great day all of you but be good :).

    Wee xx

    Hi Jojo! I knew your vacation pounds would fall right off! Life is just fine here. I am away from home giving a presentation today, long drive last night and another tonight. I don’t have another until the end of the month, so I have a chance to get back to my exercise routine. I am missing Pilates, but have been traveling on class nights.
    Have a great day, everyone!

    Breakfast on the road away from home this morning at a chain bagel shop, not usually a good option. However, they had a “skinny” breakfast sandwich with egg and sun-dried tomatoes. They even cut the bagel “skinny”, which means they cut out the middle, so it is not such a carb bomb! Still wouldn’t do for a fast day, but not the worst.

    Hello everyone- I’m just trying to catch up on all your activity and successes! We had a lovely sunny restful holiday. I’m afraid while I didnt completely ‘fall off the wagon’ lets just say I was ‘dragged along behind the wagon’ – never quite losing touch with it but definately not securely in my seat lol. Beautiful fresh produce at breakfast but beach bar snacks at lunch and ‘tourist’ fare in the evenings :(.
    We’ve also had some really bad news as family and I find it so hard not to fall back into old patterns of comfort eating.
    So…… I need to get back on it as they say. I’m fasting for the second time this week and dont plan to weigh in until next week to avoid a disappointment on the scales – I fear that might discourage me rather than spur me on at the moment. Reading all your posts is so encouraging 🙂 I really want to continue with this long term.
    Best wishes to all

    Hi Tartan lass.
    I was just coming on here to moan about feeling hungry, and your post brought me back down to earth.
    Sorry that you and yours are having to deal with the tough side of life.
    You are right about how easy it is to fall into comfort eating, so well done for being on your second FD of the week.
    Good idea not to go near the scales until you have a few fasts under your belt.
    You can do it!

    Hi Tartan lass. Glad you had a good holiday – no matter if you did go a bit overboard, it’s allowed on hols! If you did gain, will soon come off – see Jojo’s posts. So sorry to hear life has thrown some nasty things at you, and as Amazon says, we all know how easy it is to open a packet of biscuits when you are feeling low. I hope things improve for you very soon. Stay positive lass x

    back home and I am freezing . Ended up going to the shops on my own . The sale was on and I got some really good bargains of trousers and jumpers for my lovely Dad . I have to put the heating on . I joked with OH that is was my extra layer heating that has gone round my body lol . My insulation :).

    Jojo so chuffed for you that the holiday weight is coming off for you . Welcome home Tartan lass .

    No hammering next door yet so going to have a coffee and relax for a wee while .

    Got flu jab over with earlier and have a hair appointment tomorrow . Exhausted thinking about it all .

    It will be our 53rd wedding anniversary next Tuesday so I bought a nice top for myself today …OH had told me to make sure I treated myself . still my best friend ,he is just so thoughtful ..Love him to bits . 56 years since we met . I was 16 and he was 19 and got married 3 years later . I am very blessed with my family ..

    Well have a great day everyone . You are all so nice on this thread ( even if I can’t remember ALL the names 🙂 xx

    I want to buy clothes every time I go out because it is so nice to be able to walk past the camping section and buy something that fits, and I’m having to exert some self control as I already have plenty of things that will be too big in six months time.

    I’ve struggled today but a packet of zero noodles came to my rescue!

    Amazon it is Ok though pal . The top OH paid for was reduced to £9 and the one I bought for myself was £3:50p . so not breaking the bank :). I love my bargains lol xx

    Buying something new feels good and when it is a bargain it feels great!

    I can’t believe how much a bowl of zero noodles with a tsp of sun dried tomato pesto and a tiny amount of parmesan filled me up. The first time I cooked them I didn’t use enough seasoning but I got it right today and they were OK.

    I love the thought of buying something new, something nice but I won’t indulge until I’m back into double figures 🙂

    Weemam that is a beautiful sorry and what a joy it is and no doubt to your family you have set a loving example there…I was married the day after my birthday my parents wouldn’t allow it otherwise I was 20 and Y-fee 24 still going well 5 boys and 2 grand kids and 31 years of marriage later she means more to me now than ever..
    Peace
    RT

    Good evening Fasttrackers,
    Happy families all round, glad to hear it. Personally I am getting on better with my ex now we live separately.
    I have just discovered that one of my ancestors was deported to Tasmania( apparently he was a con man) my own family version of ‘del boy’, the plot thickens. So now I have cousins in both Australia and America, the world is getting smaller for me. Actually I already had a cousin in Australia as my cousin married an Australian girl in the 70’s and now lives there with their three children, not sure if grandchildren have been produced, I really need to get in touch with them.
    My poor exhausted daughter came to dinner tonight, she is beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. We had a lovely jacket potato, halloumi and stir fry veg, very filling.
    What do you think about cyclists getting number plates?
    I think it is a great idea, we still have children using the roads without helmets which is so dangerous.
    I am thinking of booking a 3 day coach trip to Southern Ireland, check out the area one branch of my family come from. I have only visited Dublin before but I loved it.
    Anyone else got any travel planned?
    I really think I should do something really special for my 60 th year next year, maybe start a bucket list.

    RT that is so nice to know . Thank you for sharing x. It is nice that you appreciate it too x

    I feel that he is my best friend and there is never a day goes by that we don’t find something to laugh about . We have 4 grand-kids aged from 17 to 26 and one we great grandson.

    It is nice to have someone special to share everything with and encourage you too .

    Wee xx

    Jojo do you have any Scottish ancestors pal 🙂 .

    I hope your daughter is ok . I am glad she has a nice Mam like you to take care of her xx.

    We will not be travelling very far in the future . We prefer out own beds and own loos now too 🙂 .

    What is halloumi ?

    Wee xx

    Hi Jojo and Weemam
    Jojo, my OH (who is also my best friend) has Irish rels who were transported to Tasmania, too. We were down there in May attending a conference on women convicts. Very interesting. We also had a chance to check out various places relevant to them. The sourdough I’m making is using flour I picked up in the town his G,G, G grandmother lived in.
    Many Irish women intentionally burnt barns during the famine to get transported to a better life. Do you know what yours did? Tasmania has lots of archives online.
    Your poor daughter. Committed teachers will always find it a draining, but curiously rewarding, vocation. Good on her for her effort. Lucky girl to have your support.
    Mam, haloumi is a wonderful soft cheese you can fry. It makes any dish (especially salads) fabulous. I always choose the haloumi dish at cafes. Can’t go wrong.
    As to travel, I am loving the freedom to just go anywhere and sleep anywhere. I’m always planning trips. Must get back to Europe next year….
    Cheers guys, P

    Thanks PV I will look out for it

    Wee xx

    Hi Guys,
    Went over my recomended calories yesterday 950. Woke up early and went for my yoga class. Had a coffee and an apple. Going out to a restaurant for lunch. The plan is to keep it under 1000 calories today. Going for a 40 minute run tonight.

    Good morning fast-tracking mates. Having a coffee while reading all your posts, OH gone to the dentist after breaking a tooth on a Fruchoc! My SA mates will also wonder how he did it, given they’re not really hard.

    Wee and RT, such a love(ly) stories. OH and I met when I was 19 and he 21. We married 3 years later with great parental misgivings but 46th in December. Despite occasional hiccups (who doesn’t have them?) he’s still my best mate.

    Tartanlass, sorry to hear life’s not so rosy just now. So easy to return to (bad) old habits of comfort eating – we’ve all been there. Hope things improve soon and take care of yourself extra well in the meantime.

    OA, keep up the good work – you’ve been doing really well. Such a lovely day here, hope it’s the same up your way.

    Ply, what self-control on opting for skinny breakfast – not sure I could have resisted because am a sucker for slap-up breakfasts, especially when someone else cooks and cleans up 😉

    Jojo, your daughter is lucky to have such an understanding Mum. Glad the holiday weight has evaporated, as I’m sure you knew it would.

    Purple, please wish your OH a happy 64th. Don’t know how you can cook things like bread while fasting – a wonderwoman!

    Apologies to those not specifically named, put it down to ‘old timers’.

    Had my usual PT-supervised weights session after work yesterday. Recorded new PB for overhead press of 12.5kg (each hand). Have been lifting 17.5kg each hand for bicep curls but now glad to have left the ladylike 😉 shiny weights and graduated to what I mentally called the “boys’ weights”. Also had 3month assessment and body fat gone down another 7% and weight loss 4.2kg, so despite gradually lowering my TDEE, I’m losing at a slightly greater rate than the 1kg/month I set myself initially. My knee flexion has also improved by 2o, so have improved on orthopod’s gloomy prediction that what it was at 12 months post-op is the best I could hope for.

    Keep up the good work all – you keep me inspired.

    Good job on all the fitness accomplishments, Nicky!

    Hi again

    Wiwi, your mention of durian brought back memories of a Malaysian trip I did for work about 4 years ago. Was a guest lecturer at Nat Uni of Malaysia so put up in very swank hotel. Was intrigued by signs in lobby and at lifts saying durian was not permitted beyond that point.

    Not familiar then (and me a botanist!) but tracked it down in the local market. Utterly disgusting smell but delicious to eat. Unfortunately my sense of smell trumped taste buds after one go and couldn’t overcome the revolting smell again.

    Give me smelly cheese any day. Death by cheese and biscuits? Bring it on!

    Thanks Ply. Nearly bedtime for you? Sleep tight.

    Nicky seriously OMG your numbers are amazing 12.5kg overhead and 17.5kg bicep curl per hand that’s impressive your our bright shining star what a wonderful good news story 46 years wed that is terrific my parents got to 25 then pulled the pin Dad re-married and has 25 years on the clock this time around.. Mum did not but has found peace love and happiness with a lovely Maltese chap they live in Richmond West off Marion Road and for want of a better phrase has lived in sin 🙂 for 24 years she is 75 he is 85..I Will admit to a fruchoc addiction bung fritz balfours pies and pasties and farmers union iced coffee………There iv said it.!!
    I feel better now :).
    Peace
    RT

    Carlos cont
    I’ve been reading about that very subject. From the angle of weight loss and then from maintaining weight.

    My opinion is that fats and protein need only to be adjusted slightly. It’s the carbs that are the typicall problem. The crux of what I’m reading is that while the body has a sum of daily requirements. The order in which we ingest foods can also determin wether the nutrition is absorbed as a maximum effectiveness.

    So while may calculate our best foods we still may not get the best benefit. So I keep reading to know more. As it’s as confusing as it elusive even for individuals.
    Each time I try to get my head around it , when I try to articulate it , it seems rather nonsensical. Compared to the free to choose diet I’ve lived on and enjoy. That trying to to intake only what I require when I require it , doesn’t seem to apply to practical meal preparations and routine.

    So I’ve taken the tact of calorie restriction 3 days a week and nutrition dense foods 4 days a week. I do this for fat loss. And exercise. , practicing HIIT for a deeper fat sink.
    Hopefully by the time I reach my ideal weight I’ll have this figured out. Basically if the body intakes only what it needs , it ages slower on the cellular level.
    However if it receives too much fat , the age related diseases have bigger risks
    If i intake too much protein the I may produce too much igf1. And have less DNA Repair on cellular level.
    If I intake poor quality carbs I may have bigger brain and liver issues and risks
    What I’ve trying to read. To understand is that , the fats, protein and carbs, may need to be eaten at different times of day so their Intake isn’t negated .

    Of course over eating overtakes the problem. But if I only want to Intake only what I require ie the centenarian diet. May require specific ratios at speific times. And a bit of luck.

    Sorry for articulating it so poorly, but I agree with you.

        

     
    Dieting is wishful shrinking. 

       

    Obesity is really widespread. 

    Joseph O. Kern II    

    Gluttony is not a secret vice. 

    Orson Welles    

    Dieting is not a piece of cake. 

       

    I am a nutritional overachiever. 

       

    Where do you go to get anorexia? 

    Shelley Winters    

    I think I just ate my willpower. 

       

    Life itself is the proper binge. 

    Julia Child    

    Bigger snacks mean bigger slacks. 

       

    Never eat more than you can lift. 

    Miss Piggy    

    A waist is a terrible thing to mind. 

    Tom Wilson    

    I’m not overweight, I’m undertall. 

       

    Dieters live life in the fasting lane. 

       

    A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand. 

       

    Your stomach shouldn’t be a waist basket. 

       

    Not afraid of heights – afraid of widths. 

       

    We never repent of having eaten too little. 

    Thomas Jefferson, 1825    

    Forget love – I’d rather fall in chocolate! 

    Attributed to Sandra J. Dykes    

    Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels. 

       

    One should eat to live, not live to eat. 

    Cicero,    

    To lengthen your life, shorten your meals. 

    Proverb    

    I am not a glutton – I am an explorer of food. 

    Erma Bombeck    

    I’m in shape.  Round is a shape… isn’t it? 

       

    Don’t dig your grave with your own knife and fork. 

    English Proverb    

    If I can’t have too many truffles I’ll do without. 

    Colette    

    Avoid any diet that discourages the use of hot fudge. 

    Don Kardong    

    I’m on a seafood diet.  I see food and I eat it. 

       

    If you wish to grow thinner, diminish your dinner. 

    H.S. Leigh    

    Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow ye diet. 

    Lewis C. Henry    

    Fat is not a moral problem.  It’s an oral problem. 

    Jane Thomas Noland    

    I keep trying to lose weight… but it keeps finding me! 

       

    I’m not overweight.  I’m just nine inches too short. 

    Shelley Winters    

    Don’t go out of your weigh to please anyone but yourself. 

       

    Saying yes to the skinny jeans by saying no to the donuts. 

    Betsy Cañas Garmon,    

    The first thing you lose on a diet is your sense of humor. 

       

    A diet is the penalty we pay for exceeding the feed limit. 

       

    If food is your best friend, it’s also your worst enemy. 

    Edward “Grandpa” Jones, 1978    

    The one way to get thin is to re-establish a purpose in life. 

    Cyril Connolly,    

    The only way to lose weight is to check it as airline baggage. 

    Peggy Ryan    

    If you really want to be depressed, weigh yourself in grams. 

    Jason Love    

    More die in the United States of too much food than of too little. 

    John Kenneth Galbraith,    

    The cardiologist’s diet:  If it tastes good, spit it out. 

       

    If hunger is not the problem, then eating is not the solution. 

       

    Gluttony is an emotional escape, a sign something is eating us. 

    Peter De Vries    

    I’m on a 90-day wonder diet.  Thus far, I’ve lost 45 days. 

       

    The commonest form of malnutrition in the western world is obesity. 

    Mervyn Deitel    

    Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever. 

       

    I’m allergic to food.  Every time I eat it breaks out into fat. 

    Jennifer Greene Duncan    

    replaced sex in my life; now, I can’t even get into my own pants. 

       

    I’ve been on a diet for two weeks and all I’ve lost is fourteen days. 

    Totie Fields    

    History is apt to judge harshly those who sacrifice tomorrow for today. 

    Harold MacMillan    

    I’ve decided that perhaps I’m bulimic and just keep forgetting to purge. 

    Paula Poundstone    

    There is a charm about the forbidden that makes it unspeakably desirable. 

    Mark Twain    

    Clogged with yesterday’s excess, the body drags the mind down with it. 

    Horace    

    Rich, fatty foods are like destiny:  they too, shape our ends. 

       

    As for food, half of my friends have dug their graves with their teeth. 

    Chauncey M. Depew    

    Flabbergasted, adj.  Appalled over how much weight you have gained. 

       

    Stressed spelled backwards is desserts.  Coincidence?  I think not! 

       

    My wife is a light eater.  As soon as it’s light, she starts to eat. 

    Henny Youngman    

    They are sick that surfeit with too much, as they that starve with nothing. 

    William Shakespeare    

    The leading cause of death among fashion models is falling through street grates. 

    Dave Barry    

    It’s okay to be fat.  So you’re fat.  Just be fat and shut up about it. 

    Roseanne Barr    

    You know it’s time to diet when you push away from the table and the table moves. 

    Quoted in    

    You can’t lose weight by talking about it.  You have to keep your mouth shut. 

       

    Blessed are those who hunger and thirst, for they are sticking to their diets. 

       

    Obesity is a mental state, a disease brought on by boredom and disappointment. 

    Cyril Connolly,    

    Food is like sex:  when you abstain, even the worst stuff begins to look good. 

    Beth McCollister    

    My advice if you insist on slimming:  Eat as much as you like – just don’t swallow it. 

    Harry Secombe    

    Probably nothing in the world arouses more false hopes than the first four hours of a diet. 

    Dan Bennett    

    She looked as if she had been poured into her clothes and had forgotten to say “when.” 

    P.G. Wodehouse    

    Forget about calories – everything makes thin people thinner, and fat people fatter. 

    Mignon McLaughlin,    

    Govern well thy appetite, lest Sin
    Surprise thee, and her black attendant, Death.

    John Milton    

    It is a hard matter, my fellow citizens, to argue with the belly, since it has no ears. 

    Plutarch    

    All people are made alike –
    of bones and flesh and dinner –
    Only the dinners are different.

    Gertrude Louise Cheney    

    The second day of a diet is always easier than the first.  By the second day, you’re off it. 

    Jackie Gleason    

    My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four.  Unless there are three other people. 

    Orson Welles    

    Another good reducing exercise consists in placing both hands against the table edge and pushing back. 

    Robert Quillen    

    I never worry about diets.  The only carrots that interest me are the number you get in a diamond. 

    Mae West    

    If nature had intended our skeletons to be visible it would have put them on the outside of our bodies. 

    Elmer Rice    

    In general, mankind, since the improvement of cookery, eats twice as much as nature requires. 

    Benjamin Franklin    

    It would be far easier to lose weight permanently if replacement parts weren’t so handy in the refrigerator. 

    Hugh Allen    

    To promise not to do a thing is the surest way in the world to make a body want to go and do that very thing. 

    Mark Twain,    

    I have a great diet.  You’re allowed to eat anything you want, but you must eat it with naked fat people. 

    Ed Bluestone    

    The biggest seller is cookbooks and the second is diet books – how not to eat what you’ve just learned how to cook. 

    Andy Rooney    

    I have gained and lost the same ten pounds so many times over and over again my cellulite must have déjà vu. 

    Jane Wagner    

    People say that losing weight is no walk in the park.  When I hear that I think, yeah, that’s the problem. 

    Chris Adams    

    I feel about airplanes the way I feel about diets. It seems to me that they are wonderful things for other people to go on. 

    Jean Kerr, “Mirror, Mirror, on the Wall,”    

    The older you get, the tougher it is to lose weight, because by then your body and your fat are really good friends. 

       

    I bought a talking refrigerator that said “Oink” every time I opened the door.  It made me hungry for pork chops. 

    Marie Mott    

    Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. 

       

    We’re the country that has more food to eat than any other country in the world, and with more diets to keep us from eating it. 

       

    It’s not women’s fault that diets don’t work.  It’s not perversity of lack of willpower.  God did this – in Her great wisdom. 

    Dr. Wayne Callaway    

    A diet is a plan, generally hopeless, for reducing your weight, which tests your will power but does little for your waistline. 

    Herbert B. Prochnow    

    When friends tell you how awesome you look, drop the “I still have more to go” crap.  You worked hard and you deserve the compliment! 

    Jillian Michaels    

    I go up and down the scale so often that if they ever perform an autopsy on me they’ll find me like a strip of bacon – a streak of lean and a streak of fat. 

    Texas Guinan    

    I’ve been on a constant diet for the last two decades.  I’ve lost a total of 789 pounds.  By all accounts, I should be hanging from a charm bracelet. 

    Erma Bombeck    

    If I had been around when Rubens was painting, I would have been revered as a fabulous model.  Kate Moss?  Well, she would have been the paintbrush. 

    Dawn French    

    People are so worried about what they eat between Christmas and the New Year, but they really should be worried about what they eat between the New Year and Christmas. 

       

    In the Middle Ages, they had guillotines, stretch racks, whips and cahins.  Nowadays, we have a much more effective torture device called the bathroom scale. 

    Stephen Phillips    

    No diet will remove all the fat from your body because the brain is entirely fat.  Without a brain, you might look good, but all you could do is run for public office. 

    George Bernard Shaw    

    When we lose twenty pounds… we may be losing the twenty best pounds we have!  We may be losing the pounds that contain our genius, our humanity, our love and honesty. 

    Woody Allen    

    I recently had my annual physical examination, which I get once every seven years, and when the nurse weighed me, I was shocked to discover how much stronger the Earth’s gravitational pull has become since 1990. 

    Dave Barry    

    When I buy cookies I eat just four and throw the rest away.  But first I spray them with Raid so I won’t dig them out of the garbage later.  Be careful, though, because that Raid really doesn’t taste that bad. 

    Janette Barber    

    If you have formed the habit of checking on every new diet that comes along, you will find that, mercifully, they all blur together, leaving you with only one definite piece of information:  french-fried potatoes are out. 

    Jean Kerr    

    Albert Einstein, who discovered that a tiny amount of mass is equal to a huge amount of energy, which explains why, as Einstein himself so eloquently put it in a famous 1939 speech to the Physics Department at Princeton, You have to exercise for a week to work off the thigh fat from a single Snickers.

    Dave Barry,    

    Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, and the same life. Losing weight is not a cure for life.

    Phillip C. McGraw,    

    At least you know that the fasting does work tartan lass. It was very empowering for me when I realized I can return to fasting , to 5:2. On any of the 52 weeks of the year. I’ve had some doozy weeks that a have shook my life around like a rag doll. Food and will power not anywhere in my thoughts. But as get my feet back on the ground and back into routine , I reinvent my wheel, my diet.

    Eventually deciding to have my foods delivered , makes the task of shopping less tempting to back to my old habits. Especially like trying to keep fish in my diet. I’m not a good cook, I had to stop using the stove and buy cookery better suited that I can’t burn it ,and has timers. Then over time as I’ve began to accept fish two days a week the I’m much more accustomed to it. Saying. It time for me to change my diet and get used to fish, that I used to eat only as fast food. To full on health food two days a week. If I didn’t have it delivered so regularly . I seriously doubt I would have kept on with the changes to my diet.

    What I’ve learned is that carbs, especially refined sugars can reprogram the brain Into craving more carbs.
    Fish Is only 1% sugar.
    I started having fish only on fasting days. As it was very simple for a no carb 600 calories of fish. No brainer. But I started with other fast day foods . So moving the fish over to replace my pasta day.

    So on the weeks that add up all my ratios. Fats , proteins, carbs, as an over view. I could see my weight changes in an exce softwarel view.
    Less carbs ,less weeks of weight gain.
    So cut out soda pops, and starchy foods. From there I’ve not regained any of what I’ve lost.
    Wishing yall the best of luck…

    Funny Samm…laughing in the train!

    Wow Nicky..you are wondergran 🙂

    I met my OH when I was 12. Fell in love by 16. Had to get parental permission to marry..I was a week off 20, he was 3 weeks off 21.
    We celebrated 43 years of marriage last week. Busy time for celebrating in October. As I said before. He is still my best friend. Love him ♡
    Cheers fast trackers, P

    Morning all.

    Self control gone, I keep jumping on the scales 😆

    16lbs gone now 🙂

    Never had a husband but haven’t given up on the idea, even though the last prospective candidate turned out to be a disappointment……………

    Jojo for my 60th I went to Australia for 2 months, which included Christmas, NY and my friend in Perth’s son’s 18th. From there I travelled on the Indian Pacific http://www.greatsouthernrail.com.au/site/indian_pacific.jsp to Adelaide where I also have friends, who gave me a 60th to remember. It is the first time I’ve celebrated a January birthday on the beach! This was the end of a year of travelling which started the previous January. I spent my 59th in Pench National Park in India, looking for tigers. Didn’t see any but saw plenty and up close in Kanha and Bhandavghaarh. In June I went to Barcelona with a friend, in July to slightly less exotic Herefordshire and then spent 3 weeks of September travelling through South Africa, Swaziland, Mozambique and Lesotho which was fabulous. Since I got back from Australia in February, things have been a bit quieter, Bath in May, Herefordshire (more friends) and Devon in July/August, and I’m now getting excited about Cuba at the end of November.
    I hate not having a holiday booked, so I’m already thinking about where I want to go next. My bucket list increases with every trip I take as I always hear about somewhere I haven’t considered from a like minded traveller. I usually go on big trips alone, joining small group tours, and also travel with my best friend on city breaks. She is coming to Cuba with me and I know we’ll have a great time as we always do!
    Before I got back to 5:2 in August, I bought a dress to take with me for the Salsa club evening that is part of the trip, and that is what got me back on track. I try it on every couple of weeks 🙂

    Once again, I spent five minutes giggling at SAMM’s one liners.
    Thanks SAMM.

    Great stuff with the weights Nicky!

    It is a dry clear morning, and the first time for 3 months I can see the sky properly as the scaffolding finally came down yesterday. I didn’t realise how much light it was blocking out.

    Feed day for me today. I am going to spend some time writing a menu plan for the next week, and try to ring the changes a bit so I don’t get bored.

    Have a good day/evening everyone.

    Good morning fast trackers,
    Another fast day today, not weighed in yet but suspect no change. I still weigh in daily, it keeps me on track. When I stopped weighing in for a month I stopped dieting/ fasting for the first three weeks, with pressure off my mental restraint fails me, pathetic am I not? We all need to do what works for us. I am heading towards a fairly harsh restrictive vegan diet because I think the health benefits are there for me. But I will learn to cook some really tasty low calorie dishes. I would like eventually to live without the need to calorie control my life, with my maximum calorie level at 1200 that does not seem possible on a normal diet. Even a normal healthy food diet which includes meat leaves me with weight gain or at best maintenance. I just have to face facts and continue with an active lifestyle and restrictive diet. However I do not retrict fruit and certainly eat 5 portions per day. Sadly still 3 stone to go, heaven help me.
    My daughter has reached her goal but I suspect she won’t stay there as she thrives on biscuits and chocolate when tired.
    Ply – my ex also eats very badly, diet of pork pies, biscuits and cheese but again has always starved all day, existing on coffee and tea. He has a tummy now in his 50’s but my main concern is his lack of exercise and fresh air, desk bound. Even on his rare holidays he spends his time on a laptop writing a book which I doubt he will ever publish.

    Amazon,
    You sound like my kind of gal. Your travelling sounds great. One of my friends has been in Australia visiting her son for almost a year, due home at the end of January. I have missed her a lot. I am also a lone traveller but like company so join in tours. I would love to go to Cuba, can’t wait to hear all about it.
    I do find food an issue when travelling though, how do you control it?

    Goodness me what a lot to catch up on. Here goes (apologies in advance if I don’t mention you by name but just so much to get out of me 🙂 )

    Wee, PVE, Nicky and others such lovely long marriages for you all. I met my OH who is also my BF, when I was 14 (he was 21 but told me he was 18 the norty boy). We had to get permission from the courts to get married as I was under 18. In December we’ll have been married 41 years. We have 2 adult boys and 4 grandchildren, ages 12, 10, 8 and 5, 2 boys and 2 girls who we love to bits 🙂

    Jojo your daughter must be counting her lucky stars to have you as a mum, so understanding and caring. I’m glad she can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

    PVE love the sound of haloumi – it’s on my list to try 🙂

    Schouke on FD’s my cals are (now) 500 or less (it took me a couple of weeks to get them down to this) and yesterday it was a touch under 400 cals. Non FD’s I allow up to my BMR but try to keep it under 1200 cals this was I don’t stress if I eat something that is higher in calories or unexpected things happen (like last week I was taken out to lunch by my work colleagues so I changed from that being my FD to a non-FD).

    Nicky OMGoodness those weights, that’s fantastic 😀 … had to LOL re the Fruchoc and tooth incident. For those who don’t know what a Fruchoc is it’s pieces of dried fruit (often apricot) wrapped in a ball of chocolate and is really sweet. Many of us, particularly in SA, love them, they’re a treat but because of this I try to stay away from them. RT the same goes for Farmers Union Iced Coffee as it’s just too yummylicious.

    SAMM … LOL re the sayings/jokes 😆 thank you for sharing.

    Amazon – YAY 16 pounds lighter, great going!!!

    Jojo, just read re pork pies, salivating when I read that as I haven’t had one in many many years (and won’t either even though I like them) but at least with reading and acknowledging this I can put it out of my mind once again.

    Having chicken kebabs with brussel sprouts and broccoli tonight (steamed veggies and oven baked chicken).

    Hello JoJo and team

    Your sayings are a good breakfast, Samm, I ingested them with green tea.
    JoJo, I find 1200 cal max possible with this ADF. I never eat more than I need on up days and the down day at 400-500 cals. The average is about 1200 cal.

    I spent 3 years living in Papua New Guinea. I went there with my husband and two small children. We were volunteer teachers in a very remote high school. We lived among the sweet potato growers. They could get enough calories(1200) from eating these, but lacked protein. They hunted to get protein. But not far away were the sago growers. That was different. The women had to thrash the sago to remove it from the palm. Sago is poor in any sort of nutrition and the women used more energy to prepare the sago than by eating it and were very underfed. They had bananas and coconut, but were not on a 1200 cal daily ration.
    The amazing thing about the people we lived amongst was that they had not reached the pottery stage of development. They did not store water at home. If they were thirsty they had to go to the river to drink (often many hundreds of metres below). More often they chewed sugar cane or just did not drink. Sweet potato is very dry. We often stayed with our students for holidays. On a sweet potato diet, we always shrank away. We carried piles of peanut butter to keep the children from starving.
    In PNG 1200 cals was considered the absolute minimum level of calories.
    Ah that will keep a faster from thinking about food for a few minutes.
    For me it is a sewing day. I need new smaller clothes. I need braces to hold up my cords now.
    Remember that book? Falling Pants by Lucy Lastic.
    Good fasting
    KiwiWiwi

    Hi Jojo, When I was 21 I went abroad for the first time with my parents, to stay with my aunt and uncle in Canada. I put on 21lbs in three weeks, and that was the beginning of a lifelong weight problem. I would always gain lots of weight because quite frankly I was greedy, and not just on holiday.
    Last spring, six months after giving up work and weighing 16 stones I decided enough is enough and I started 5:2. I went to Barcelona in June and for the first time in my adult life I came home without any excess weight. I got straight back into fasting and continued until September and my trip to SA. Once again I came home, this time after 3 weeks and hadn’t gained any weight.
    When I went to Australia I knew it would be tougher, and in 5 weeks with my friends in Perth I gained 10lbs. I don’t want to think about how much it would have been if I hadn’t swum at least 1.8Ks every day. A lot of it was down to booze, but I did eat more than I needed. I didn’t gain any more weight in the final 3 weeks though. I came home to unforeseen personal issues and a huge leak in my flat that made my bedroom uninhabitable, and I became ill. I had contracted whooping cough of all things. I didn’t go back to fasting, had other health issues during the early summer, minor surgery, followed by a back problem. Got on the scales in August after 12 days with friends and had gained another 8lbs since February which for me was a good result, but it was the kick I needed to get me back to 5:2

    The holidays I mentioned were a test for me, and I knew I had to exercise self control. so I didn’t eat between meals, apart from the occasional ice cream. I used to happily eat three courses with bread and copious amounts of alcohol, and I didn’t do that either, mostly two courses, and only couple of drinks. Something I did was look at one of my fellow (slim) travellers an fill my plate with no more than they had on theirs. Previously I would look and think “is that all they are having”
    Some of that is down to really wanting to end looking at myself in the mirror every day and seeing a fat woman, and some of it is due to this way of eating helping me to retrain my eating habits.
    I will not gain any weight in Cuba because I am now in control of what I eat, and intend to keep it that way. I hope I don’t have to eat my words 😆

    PVE some real life experiences in there fantastic to think you have the recipe and yes the C bomb Commitment to arrive at 43 years married I dont care what anyone says that’s another inspired story today number three
    and I havnt included my own
    this is the thread people 🙂
    Peace
    RT

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