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Yes Nicky, I did see Insight on Monday. I guess those sorts of shows always have time constraints and it does undergo a huge amount of editing as it is pre recorded, unlike Q and A.
The general idea got across, but Dr M spoke far more naturally, and passionately, at the book launch we attended on Friday. He is out to change the world. Good on him!!! P 😊
Hi P,
Bread is 90% of my white carb intake as I cut down drastically on anything that contained gluten in the years I suffered from IBS. Since it has resolved I’ve not increased the amount I eat apart from bread so things like rice, cous cous and pasta are eaten occasionally. I used to eat pasta at least four times a week and now it is once or twice a month unless I’ve made some FD dinners with it. I don’t eat rice with curry so only have it if I make a risotto or paella. In fact I’ve got two bags of arborio rice that are going to be past their best by date due to me eating so little of it these days.
I love cakes and pastries but my tastes have changed and so many are far too sweet and cloying, so I have them only if they are the very best patisserie quality or home made so I don’t eat them anyhwhere near as often as before 5:2
I’m also no longer able to eat three courses if I go out for dinner and tend to leave some of the carbs and skip dessert. Some of my friends can’t believe it as I always practically cleaned the pattern from the plate and NEVER declined dessert!
I have no intention of offering the builders anything other than my home made cake (which has reduced sugar and lots of fruit and nuts 😉 ) as it ensures they go the extra mile and I need them to put my bed back together and hang a blind for me once the work has been completed 😋
I’ve been damp dusting and washing all the paintwork and floors. I think I’m finally on top of the dust situation as I can’t see any from where I’m sitting………
Ah, the old “bribe the workmen” trick? An old one, but a good one! 😉
Your finished work will be the reward.
With regard to bread…I make home made sourdough for Mr P. He has one small slice about 4 times a week. I have to go outside and garden so that I can’t smell it toasting, it is that irresistible! I know I would eat too much if I started, so I eat none. As I used to cook cakes commercially, I can happily bake bread etc without eating it, but the smell of toast in the morning is a killer… P
Hi folks, from this weeks Forum read: some of you are succeeding in very unique food programs, good luck to you. Some of you are achieving amazing milestones in your personal lives, congratulations and some of you are just processing life while you embrace 5:2/4:3 good on you all fellow valiant warriors.
My weekly weigh in was a bit disappointing just under 1-kilo not the full 2.2-lbs that I was expecting. Perhaps it’s the steroids? I just started a round 8-days ago will be finished tomorrow….just needed a wee bit of pain management as it was becoming eye-watering overwhelming day ;n night…. C’est la Vie. Instantly, I look like I’m keeping the winter food for a family of five in the pocket of my cheeks ….sigh…. AAANYway the GOOD news (I guess) is that I’m still losing not gaining.
This does make feel very happy.
Had a relaxed eating weekend not too mindful, indulgent would be the right word…. ate Wild Boar Stew and another day Black Pork cheeks. Real salt-of-the-earth, talk’n to Jesus kinda food.
Was at a private dinner last night and the spread was laid out rich ‘n gorgeous, roast leg of lamb and such things. Three things surprised me; (1) I was surprised at the size of the portions of supper served on the plate…seemed huge to me, only ate half of everything passed down to me…but ALL the folks at the table left clean plates (2) broke my Lent and had 1 glass of wine thinking I was being sociable…. found it bored me and switched to water for the rest of the evening (3) as the evening turned into the next day…I was one of only two completely sober persons in the room. It looked (from the temper of the conversations) and felt odd even alien.
Well now facing another week… will try to conduct a 4:3 week…we’ll see. Well till next weekend, stay strong and if you fail, just get up and try again.
Hi Jo a little something for you from the vault 😉
A lawyer married a woman who had previously divorced 10 husbands. On their wedding night, she told her new husband, “Please be gentle, I’m still a virgin.” “What?” said the puzzled groom. “How can that be if you’ve been married 10 times?” “Well, Husband #1 was a sales representative. He kept telling me how great it was going to be. Husband #2 was in software services. He was never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he’d look into it and get back to me. Husband #3 was from field services. He said everything checked out diagnostically, but he just couldn’t get the system up. Husband #4 was in telemarketing. Even though he knew he had the order, he didn’t know when he would be able to deliver. Husband #5 was an engineer. He understood the basic process, but wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method. Husband #6 was from finance and administration. He thought he knew how, but he wasn’t sure whether it was his job or not. Husband #7 was in marketing. Although he had a nice product, he was never sure how to position it. Husband #8 was a psychologist. All he ever did was talk about it. Husband #9 was a gynecologist. All he did was look at it. Husband #10 was a stamp collector. All he ever did was… God! I miss him! But now that I’ve married you, I’m really excited!” “Good,” said the new husband, “but, why?” “You’re a lawyer. This time I know I’m going to get screwed!”
Hello Fast trackers.
RT 🙂 🙂 🙂
Amazon, cake sounds like a wise investment for your builders. Well done on resisting the temptation.
Jo, sorry to hear your ‘innards’ are not too happy. Hope it resolves itself soon. Good news about your daughter’s dragon-boating and accommodation.
So far so good at nearly lunchtime on this FD. Scales this morning showed the same weight as after last week’s 2 FDs so a good springboard for the week and empowering. Just about to head off for a cuppa with my daughter (she follows this WOL too) and then on to Mt Lofty Botanic Garden for a teaching session with the Hort. staff. Very hot and humid here, unusually for an Adelaide summer so low-cal chicken and salad for dinner.
Take care all and keep up the good work. n xxx
Morning/evening all,
Yet another glorious sunny but cold and frosty morning ✳🌞
I am so looking forward to th discipline of my FD as I know there will be no eating until dinner. The weekend turned into a major battle with myself trying not to eat cake. I had a slice yesterday as I knew if I didn’t I would eat anything and everything else in sight. I had far too much fermented grape juice this weekend too and I’ve woken up still feeling full despite not eating since 5pm yesterday.
I am looking forward to some hard work at the gym this morning and if I have the energy and the sun is still shining I might go for a walk this afternoon.
Have a good one everybody 😜
Hi Jojo,
Sorry to hear you sound really sick! I hope you have stayed in bed and are giving in gracefully, rest is the best cure. At least you wont be tempted to eat badly if you stick to home made soup. I hope it passes quickly. After all that planning and food shopping, you will want to get back to the BSD! I hope Ply is ok too!
I wonder where everyone is? I am guessing Amazon is busy charming her builders – they have probably moved on from tea and cake to something stronger by now! (In celebration of a job well done!) I hope its finished and what you hoped for Amazon and you are no longer eating plaster dust. When we renovated our kitchen a few years ago, several pieces of slate had to be jackhammered up and the concrete dust was unbelievable. It got into cracks and crevices previously unknown…. a nightmare but well worth it!
I think most of us ‘downunder’ are struggling under the oppressive heat that has snuck up on us, just as Summer finished! 37 in Melbourne today and still low 30’s at 11.30pm – very exhausting! At least I have caught up on washing etc after our little break, it dries on the clothes line in about half an hour! I have had a couple of fast days to undo my excesses of last week, it is definitely easier to fast in the heat. I have just had ‘supper’ of lovely cold water melon…..
Hi all,
Nama the job is nowhere near finished. The plaster takes several days to dry out before it can be painted. The electrician is coming tomorrow to finish installing new sockets and lighting and the painting is due to start on Thursday. Once that is done the floor will be laid and then I need to bribe the builders with more cake to put my bed back together and hang a blind 😁
I am doing ADF this week to fit in with everything that is going on so today is a normal eating day. I made a portion of Bircher muesli and topped it with some delicious (imported) fresh figs.
I received a parcel from my friend in Adelaide and it contains a book written by a survivor of Pol Pot’s reign of terror. I wanted to buy a book when I was in Cambodia and there were many on sale at the Genocide Museum but I was so distressed by what I had seen that I couldn’t bear to look at the selection and choose one. My friends were in Cambodia just before Christmas and they all read the book when they came home.I am going to read it but I know it’ll be a tough read but something I want to know about from the perspective of a victim.
When I was out shopping this morning there were a few snowflakes falling. Fortunately that has stopped and the sun has come out but it remains very cold. It is the coldest it has been in London this winter as we have been very fortunate to have a mild and fairly dry time of it.
Have a good one everybody 😜
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Wow 40 here yesterday just the morning walk at the moment 10131 steps today a nice start to a new day and the rest of the week all over 30 and very humid.
I Nearly Became A Doctor….
When I was young I decided I wanted to be a doctor,
so I took the entrance exam to go to Medical School .
One of the questions asked was to rearrange the
letters *PNEIS* into the name of an important human body part
which is most useful when erect.
Those who answered spine are doctors today….
The rest of us are sending jokes.
Happy Hump Day People 😉
RT.
Eat Less & Live Longer
Says it all really, RT. 😂😂😂
Sorry to hear you are ill, Jo. Stick with the soup and follow Sister Nama’s advice. 😊
Funny weather everywhere! Heatwaves in southern Aust, snow in London. We are getting high 20s, so not too bad, but the Bushfire Brigade is doing hazard reduction burns. The air is choking with smoke…have to keep the windows closed, no outside walking and sinuses in distress. At least I don’t feel like eating 😊😊
Hope everyone is doing ok. Cheers P
Good morning fast trackers
Jo, I hope you are feeling better. Bed rest and soup sound like the ticket.
Nama, good to get back on track. I’ll bet you didn’t get far off it in the first place though. I love how this WOL has given us the tools to be able to enjoy the important things without our weight getting out of control.
Amazon, your renovations are taking longer than I imagined. As Nama said, building dust gets everywhere. After they’re gone you’ll be able to have a good blitz.
RT 🙂 🙂 🙂 Love your work! What does that say about our minds?
Purple, hope the sinuses are improving. How is your new music piece progressing?
Like everywhere else in SE Australia the weather is horrible! Yesterday was 37C (beaten by my pal RT in Naracoorte though) with about 80% humidity – so exhuasting. I went to weight training after work but at least their aircon was working well so came out of there no hotter than usual. Long drive home due to 2 crashes on the freeway with consequent lane closures, speed restrictions and congestion. What should have been a 20′ trip was twice that so arrived home hot, tired and grumpy.
Pleasant surprise to find our daughter and grandchildren had popped in after school. OH had just made a jug of iced coffee – the Lenten ‘no added sugar’ pledge out the window completely. The ice cream in the coffee was yummy but also led to other indulgences. Sugar really is bad for us!!! The plus side is that while I almost certainly exceeded my usual target TDEE for a non-FD, my fitbit showed I burned up >3000 calories so probably not disastrous. Another FD today to reset with slightly cooler weather predicted.
Take care all and keep up the good work. n xxx
Hi Nicky The “new” piece is one I could apparently play in my teens, but I have no memory of it. I’m a bit like the goldfish swimming around its bowl… ‘Oh, there’s a castle!’ … 100 times a day. 😕
21 here this morning so pleasant…and the smoke has gone…until later!
I’m envious of your 3000 cal burn. My monitor only ever shows 1500 to 1700 cals, even when I’ve run! This is one of the biggest disappointments of weighing in the 50kgs…you simply don’t burn as much. Therefore you can hardly eat anything. But, thems the breaks!!! P
My FitBit numbers are usually 2000-2200 if I have done between 10-15,000 steps. I use it as a guide and I use Calorie King to record my food. Obviously I haven’t succeeded otherwise I wouldn’t be here writing. But with my renewed enthusiasm with the 5:2 plan, I am hoping for success. I had a NFD of about 1800 calories with a calorie burn from Fit Bit of 2100. I woke up at around 5am (most unusual) and I had low blood sugar and cold. I got up and had a sugar free hot chocolate with almond milk and went back to bed. Couldn’t sleep as the mind was awake. Now I have to get by on 5 1/2 hours sleep. Humph!
Does anyone else suffer like that?
I am going to Stradbroke Island for 4 days on Friday (Queensland). I will have to do the FD the day before I leave and another one day later on the way back. They say that using a travel day is good for a FD as it is an easy distraction.
I am still one of those who “lives in hope” of success. Small goals, I tell myself. Onward into battle….
Hi Jaqui
Love Stradbroke! Fasting while travelling is definitely the way to go.
It takes 20000 steps for me to burn 1900. I often get 1800 cals burnt when it’s not hot, but, at present, most of my exercise is swimming. Far too hot for 10km walks, I’m afraid.
I now know that at 57-58kg I don’t dare eat more than 1500 cals on an eating day, hence I’m very careful to eat only the best food and wine and leave the rest.
Regarding sleep on fast nights…I’m always wide awake (it’s part of how we evolved to be alert when hungry). I also do frequent ‘loo trips’ as there is little food in tge stomach to absorb the liquid. But the rewards are SO worth it!
Enjoy your break. P
Hi Jacqui. Like Purple, I love Straddie – used to one of our favourite weekend getaways when we lived in Brisbane. So envious!
As Purple says, when you get to goal, the rewards are worth it. I have yet to attain that ‘sunlit upland’ though, even if maintaining my accumulated losses.
Purple, my target is the same as your current weight so try to limit my non-FDs to around 1500 cals and maximum 400 on a FD. Not sure the fitbit is entirely accurate as I routinely burn >2000/day so theoretically the fat should be disappearing more rapidly than it apparently is. On the up side my trainer last night said I was by far his strongest woman client, irrespective of age – not bad for someone who’s 70 next month I reckon.
Talk about make the gods laugh by telling them your plans … FD out the window today, following yesterday’s solecisms – succumbed to around 100g of Haigh’s dark chocolate scorched almonds at morning tea. 🙁 🙁 My only consolation is that is good quality chocolate and locally grown almonds. Fortunately no longer hungry so will only have black tea and water until a veg stir-fry for dinner. Why does weeks of good progress result in slackness? I guess if I knew that I’d be a millionaire. n
Morning/evening all
Nicky, after nearly three weeks of really good progress I had a three day weekend where I inadvertently slipped into the seefood (and eat it) diet 😖 I guess it takes a long long time to train our minds and bodies to accept that the changes in our eating habits are permanent.
I am blissfully unaware of the consequences as I am yet to unearth the scales from the bedroom contents piled up in the corner of the living room!
I fasted on Monday and as I’ve changed to ADF this week to fit in with my plans I’m hoping I can negate any damage and continue with the weight loss. I’m not getting to the gym as often as I would like or getting out for walks at the moment either but will be able to do so as soon as this work is done.
Have a good one everybody 😜
Interesting. Just chatting with Mr P over a yum non fast dinner (I always eat well before Thursday fast), he had done 9000 steps on his Fitbit, recording 1737 cals, 6.52 kms. We both had our monitors off for swimming but theoretically should have recorded the same the rest of the day. We ate the same, about 1500. We usually do. With that, he should be losing weight, but he just maintains. Fitness monitors are not the be all and end all. They cannot allow for different activities (he gets credits on his for hammering!) or for different metabolisms or energetic people…(he’s falling asleep while I type!!!)
I use mine solely as a guide to try to do my 10000 minimum.
Keep your goal in sight. You can do it Nicky! P 😊
Hi Jojo,
I thought it sounded more like GB problems than anything else but didn’t want to say anything. Thank goodness you are having surgery soon.
I am not really worried about having had a bad weekend eating wise but I am annoyed that I gave my self control time off. I know that by the time I weigh myself again the scales will register a lower number than last time as I’m back on the wagon. It seems that I can be really disciplined if I have a goal eg 14 weeks before Cuba and I succeeded in losing 28lbs. I’ve got 8 weeks until I go to Rome so I’ve set myself a target of 12lbs which is more modest but I’ve much less to lose and I guess it’ll be more difficult the closer I get to goal.
Good morning all.
Amazon, Purple and Ply, I’m still in the dark (have been known to not get jokes before). Has a post been removed?
Glad you’re feeling a little better Jo. I like your comment about not able to be ‘on’ 24/7 so counting Tuesday and yesterday as a blip and now back on track. This morning the scales were down a little from yesterday nonetheless. Like you, at the outset I had lots to lose (40kg or 6.2 stone) and bordering on morbidly obese. Since adopting this WOL I have definitely lost 15kg with another few just misplaced, as one does. The bright spot for me is that without this WOL I’d probably be even heavier than I was.
Purple, have pondered the fitbit calories apparently burnt conundrum for a while and your interesting fitbit comparisons with Mr P add to the mix. I guess however clever the software, it’s not subtle enough to account for individual metabolic differences, even though it can theoretically make adjustments for even slim females having a little higher body fat % than males.
20mm of rain overnight here with 32C predicted for today – another tropical one on the way.
Take care all and keep up the good work. n xxx
Yes Nicky. The post was removed.
You’ve done well..we’ll soon be swapping clothes!
Tell me, are you still doing b2b fasts, or have you switched to the more conventional 2 separate days? I know I find the separate days very effective, by giving me 2 resets a week, to control eating day portions. I know we are all different, but might be worth trying for a month or so.
Fasting today, so, despite the heat, I’m out walking. …and getting blisters!
Cheers P
Hi Purple
Based on comments and experiences reported by many here, I changed my weight training day to Tuesday from Wednesday so I have fasted on Mondays and Wednesdays since the end of last year. It’s psychologically better, as we all know, to only have to last until ‘tomorrow’ and I like the fact that Tuesday, while not a FD, is usually a low-cal day with no breakfast and a late high quality lunch so I have plenty of energy left for my 4pm weights session. This year I have found it easier most of the time to stay under my target TDEE and even when indulging like yesterday, I was well under 1200cal for the day.
Thanks for the encouragement. I have no doubt I will get to goal eventually and then maintain. Along the way my hypertension has gone and my blood markers are all good so already reaping some of the benefits.
Hope your blisters are receiving treatment and you found some shade for your walk.
Cheers, n.
Morning All,
I’ve been reading but not posting as I haven’t got anything to contribute.
I can’t remember who you posted to, Jo, saying that even the most experienced fasters here couldn’t maintain without fasting…not strictly true, at least not for me this week! I’ve been a bit more active and, despite breaking my no bread or added sugar in the week rule, I’m very comfortably in my maintenance range. I’m going to have to eat more, as I do miss fasting…
Amazon, have you been taking before/during/after pictures of the works?
Jo, hope you’re feeling better?
OR Jojo, rather the 2 whole eggs have 3 egg whites with seasoning, or fresh herbs a tbls of milk, mix well and microwave…(all the protein is in the whites of the egg)
Total calories: 56 calories (51-cal eggs plus 5-cal for 1-tablespoon skim milk
I usually have this for breakfast with a chopped fresh tomato and basil or coriander OR 1-tablespoon cooked Mexican salsa (5-calories). Substantial and filling and tasty… just an idea….
Hi my fellow 5:2/4:3 dahlinks….Firstly, I LOVE egg yolks! And NO, there is nowhere to BUY a box of egg whites around here in Portugal(not that I would buy them anyway)Most of us have our own chickens. Any one with a wee spit of grass in their yard has a vegetable garden and chickens …(the cacophony of pre-dawn morning ‘Coq-au-Vin-Wannabe’ roosters is truly eye-opening!)
Portugal is very poor (average income circa 450 euros per month), water is a commodity so everyone grows their own fresh food and raise chickens/goats, gather wild food…pretty cool for me to see all the picked wild food for sale here. At the local markets local pork, sardines/mackerel are all less then 2-euros a kilo.
But back to egg yolks.
YES, I love egg yolks and 100% prefer my eaten eggs to include them. Yum,Yum; believe you me, I DO! But I’m counting calories with a feverish commitment and I want more FOOD volume in me belly so I’m making some unholy sacrifices… and ONLY for me at this early stage of my 5:2/4:3… the yolks have too many calories for my daily count. C’est la vie, for now.
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