I don’t think I drank enough water to begin with Intesha. AC, according to the tracker on this site, my BMI is 24.3%. Was it you who said 25% and under is OK? My scales aren’t quite as kind, I think they said it was 25.6% yesterday.
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Hi Merry
I weigh every day and I am always at my lowest after a fast day. I think my weight is directly related to how many carbs (green veges excluded) I ate the day before. If I have bread or rice or potato or anything sweet or white on a non fast day, then I gain weight.
When I was trying to lose weight, I ate no processed foods or grains or sugars. Nothing white. I gained no weight on non fast days. Now that I am maintaining, I notice that I go up 1 kg between fast days. I am using the fast days to control my total calorie intake. I eat less than 400 calories on fast days, and drink 2 litres of water. I eat whatever type of food I want on non fast days, within my TDEE.
As I am at my lowest weight the day after a fast day, having drunk a minimum of 2 litres of water, I don’t believe it is the water that adds weight. It appears to be the processed carbs for me, and lots of people like me have reported the same effect.
Cheers, Bay 🙂
PVE – thank you for your reply. I have just read it to OH, who harrumphed a bit and then said “Wait until we come back from Australia – I’m not fasting on holiday.” I reminded him that our daughter and I are not fasting while away – why would I make him fast!! But I have planted the seed, and he has been very encouraging of us, so I will work quietly in the background so that in time he will think it is his idea to join us. My son has also shown interest but he too wants to wait until we return.
Getting seriously excited about our holiday now – 8 sleeps, 2 FDs to go! Probably sneak in a part FD on the Sunday as we drive to Christchurch to catch our flight. It would be nice to be comfortably at 67 kgs before we leave. I have just looked at our itinerary and we will be served two dinners – one on our flight to Sydney – then we fly straight to Melbourne with another one served on that flight! So might try and manage with a piece of fruit to keep me going till then.
Thin, there is an interesting article here about the accuracy of body fat scales, so take that reading with a pinch of salt: http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/diet-weight-loss/article/body-fat-scales-step-right
Hi Bayleaf (lovely name!)
I think the term ‘water weight’ comes from the fact that 1 gram of carbohydrate intake will mean the liver (?) retains 4 grams of water, that is it only takes a small amount of carb to really affect your body weight. I so agree that for so many of us low carb (and high fat and fasting) is the only way to go to lose weight. We need to turn into fat burners not glucose burners!!
I’m in perth and think there’s a few others too. I’m sorry but I lurk and treat this as bedtime or early morning reading in bed for the most part. I’ve been stuck for quite a while weight loss wise and have just being doing a five day fast on a daily commitment basis. I did have a small chicken and avocado meal on day 4 because I really thought I needed something and did have a little last night because I’ve got some nice and healthy food in the fridge! I’m having some cream and coconut oil in coffee and lovely bone broth otherwise and feel fine!! No one could be more surprised than me! The weight and “clothes are looser” has finally moved in the downwards line again! I’ve got 20 kts still to lose so couldn’t remain stuck any longer (it was at least six weeks). I’ll see how I am each day and decide whether or not to eat solid food! it is most likely to happen because of a lunch with friends etc . There’s a kind of driven aspect to this but for my health I am determined to set up a better future. Read: T2D free … Thanks for the lovely circle of wellbeing southern hemispherites. X
Thanks for the article H4. I agree and there are different standards used to calculate BMI – my GP uses something different again. The main health issue with body fat is visceral fat and BMI calculators don’t measure that. But it’s still useful for tracking changes over time and it’s encouraging to watch it go down. Enjoy your holiday.
I’m the same Bay, my weight goes up after eating processed carbs. I don’t have any on a FD though.
CM, is OH doing any fasting? Did he gain any weight on the cruise?
Welcome FreyaT. Another Perth loser, yay! Three of us (two fifty somethings and one spring chicken) are planning to get together for a coffee soon and we’d love you to join us. If that’s something that interests you, please let us know and give us an idea of where you’re located.
Thin that is so cool that you NEED to go shopping for clothes that actually fit!! What was your favourite store? You need to check out some new ones now! Jacqui E is lovely, have you looked in there? Target has a huge range of clothes and theyre surprisingly good quality too. You should be so proud of what you’ve acheived. Spoil yourself with some lovely new clothes that make you feel good. Sounds like OH is proud of you too, not many men will willingly go shopping with their wife AND spend money!
Freya you sound hardcore! Five day fast!! I struggle through one day. Good on you! I hope you get great, steady results. You are so right about the fat burner v glucose burner.
Bay and you others, you are so good with your food, even on non- FD’s. I eat whatever I want on non- FD’s and pay no attention to my TDEE! I have toast every morning and lately I’ve been having little treats too like wine and chocolate. Probably need to cut that down! I’m not losing weight very rapidly but I’m not fussed by that. Happy Saturday all 🙂
Thanks MK, the store is a small family business called O’Briens selling men’s and women’s clothing with good old fashioned service (they must have had five non-pushy sales assistants roaming the floor) that’s been operating for decades located in a Perth suburb called Manning. I will return as they sell reasonably priced leather bags, boots and shoes too. OH wanted to buy a wool jumper but the smallest size was L and the salesman explained that people are just getting bigger and bigger and so they’ve started to reflect that in the sizes they stock. Sad, eh? I’ll have to hit the malls as you say. You’re right to enjoy yourself along the way, that’s what makes this all so viable and it doesn’t matter how fast you lose the weight.
Hi thinatlast
Yes it would be fun to meet up. I’m in North fremantle. I work during the week and am 57 so the spring is a little gone from the chicken!! Thanks for the invitation and I look forward to meeting soon. Best wishes Linda (Freya was the name of a dog very dear to me … Now Merlin the White shepherd keeps me good company)
Thanks Bay for you detailed answer , and others re weight on days between fast days.
I’ve got fast days down pat, though my next goal for them is to go from 500 down to 400 cals on fast days, i.e. a quarter of my TDEE of 1595. Fast days are my real challenge it seems. My daily weight goes all over the place on non- fast days. I’ve thought I was doing OK on non- fast days in food choices and quantities etc, but I think the quantities have crept up and the wrong foods (for me) sneaking in in little bits , but stuffing everything up for me.
I’m 4 days grain free, so 1 day left to go to be totally out of the woods with those,. ( takes 5 days for the effect of my grain intolerance to wear off )Then I won’t be eating any grains, gluten free or not. Next to tackle is sugar. I don’t often eat things with sugar, but after the apple pie and custard at last weekend’s family function I’ve been craving sugar, had some yoghurt through the week with some sugar in it,and tonight I’ve given in and polished off some of the ’emergency’ chocolate I had in the fridge. So… My plan is to ditch keeping any emergency chocolate! I’m much better at judging and pacing my energy so I don’t often get in the situation where I need ‘medicinal chocolate’ ( that sounds so wierdly funny and ridiculous), so not going to keep any in the fridge or my handbag. Also double check there’s nothing with added sugar in the house.( I’m not the only buyer of food)
I’m going to go back to writting down everything I eat and drink, and the calories,
Yesterday I got one of those zucchini ‘pasta’ cutter thingies, and I think zucchini pasta and Slendier noodles are going to be on the menu more often. Also going to double check I’m sticking to low GI food .
Have a good Sunday everyone,
Onwards and downwards!
Merry
Good morning all. 78.3 this morning, I’m running out of Wow’s. Did an extra FD yesterday because of my high tea on Saturday even though I didn’t over indulge. I can’t believe I passed up pavlova, apple crumble, lamingtons and a chocolate fountain. Unheard of in days gone by. If I had been told a few months ago how much my appetite would change I wouldn’t have believed it.
I still like my sweet things but nowhere like I used to. Is this just a short term thing or is this how 5:2 changes your eating pattern?
Good morning all
From my point of you Intesha nothing is more important for our health than to stop being insulin resistant- that is low blood glucose and low insulin- there appears to be two ways to do this- low carb and IF- for some of us- after being brought up on white bread and corn flakes we need to use both strategies! After 3 months on 5:2 my fasting blood glucose was down to 4.6 which is my lowest yet- hopefully it is even lower now. Sugar is very addictive and I am with Freya- I need to be a fat burner- both 5:2 and paleo have helped me achieve that- when I started 5:2 I felt terrible on fast days as my body just wasn’t converting the stored energy. Now I am fine.
Even if I eat some starchy veges or a bit of tapioca I put on weight- 900g in 5 days but will fast for 2 days so should still lose overall for the week.
Thin my calculation are the same as the 5:2 calculations on the tracker. Height in cm’s- 1.68×1.68=2.82 so I divide my weight by 2.82. I do agree about the visceral fat- my tummy still has a lot of fat on it so onwards and downwards!
Good luck to all the fasters today- I am going to do the two days in a row again- it worked for me last week. EA like you I have to prepare a huge amount of food for others constantly and sometimes I get a bit impatient about it!
Morning all, completely agree with all you’ve said AC. I thought I understood a lot about healthy nutrition but have had to turn around my thinking on so many aspects. The insulin factor was my primary motivation for fasting and losing weight, that part I understand well. The relationship to the carb issue has taken a lot longer to sink in but I’m learning.
Intesha, that’s great. Wish I’d known you were fasting yesterday as it’s a bit lonely on here on Sundays! 5:2 has changed your desires, that’s fantastic. I had a great FD yesterday, tried the steel cut oats for the first time and they were tasty and full of texture. Lots of stirring on the stove top vs. microwaving made me realised they’re not as heavily processed.
Merry, thanks for reminding me I have a veggetti. I’ve been using Slendier noodles on feast days to use up the second portion but must remember to use courgettes too. Can’t believe how much pasta we used to eat.
FreyaT: CM will be happy on two counts; CM’s a reference to her beloved dog Charlie and you two are neighbours! Await to hear from EA regarding best times for her to meet and where we might be going. If we end up meeting during the week this time, we’ll do a weekend next time so you can join us.
I’m still tipping the scales in the 62s so very pleased with that. Have a great FD all those fasting.
Good Morning all,
Well done Intesha!! Wow! It’s amazing isn’t it what happens on this way of life. It not only gets our bodies functioning better, but our brains as well.
AC, the starchy veggies = weight gain happens to me too, except I can put on 900 gm overnight if I so much as have a bit of potato. It just puts the brakes on weight loss and pushes me in the other direction. Whenever I’ve checked with my GP re blood sugar and the fact I drink a lot water, my blood sugar is normal on blood tests. However, within the Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome community, it is well known anecdotally that we often show symptoms of a condition while showing normal on blood tests. Anyhoo…..grains are now out, sugar is out, starchy veggies are out, high GI fruit is out.
Re medicinal chocolate I posted about, that’s not a joke. It’s like someone having a hypo eating jelly babies. If I inadvertantly end up having an energy crash, chocolate is the fastest thing to get out of it, because of the combination of chemicals in it. However, I’m better at managing my energy pacing now, so it rarely happens.
I’ve been reading on the forum elsewhere about artificial sweeteners and natural ones like stevia. I have a very small amount of stevia occasionally and sometimes have a couple of sugar free lollies. I don’t think they’re doing me any favours though, so ditching those as well. I once tried a tiny bit of a stevia leaf, and found it so supersweet it was horrible.
Happy FD to the Monday fasters,
Onwards and downwards!
Merry
Morning all. Thin, CM and Freya. Hello. I hope to meet up with you soon. I may be able to swing being child free on a weekend but not so on week days. I will speak to the hubby!
AC – yeah it can be a pain catering for others when we are fasting ourselves. I always seem to get the urge to clean out my pantry on fast days for some bizarre reason but have managed to stop myself from unnecessary cruelty lol.
A fasting day for me and I have chicken salad to look forward to tonight. My last fast was Wednesday and it seems like such a long time ago. Almost had to remind myself that I am on the 5:2 diet and should be fasting today!!
Intesha – well done on passing on the lovely cakes etc but still enjoying your day out. I’ve only been on the 5:2 for about a month now and I already notice that on my non-fast days, I certainly do not over indulge. I just don’t want to. I read in the book also that a lot of people do not go crazy on feast days and don’t feel the need to. It is fantastic. I can have my cake and eat it on non fast days if I want to, I just don’t most of the time. Hooray!
Well done everyone on your losses and all the best for todays fasters. I’m off now for my second hot lemon water.
Hi all
I tried to answer re the travelling scales on Friday, but it didn’t post. Sorry, can’t remember who asked.
They are bright yellow, called Petit Mignon and are available through eBay. They have been fantastic for us on trips. Mr P, the recovered diabetic, uses them and his daily bloodsugar tests to gauge how much he should eat. He skips breakfast if he has a reading over 6 and fasts until dinner if it is over 6.5. In the 5 weeks we’ve been away, neither of us gained weight and we didn’t do any proper fasts.
We are making up for it today with a full fast. Mr P needs to do this twice a week to maintain consistently low (in the 5s) bs results, drug free. I don’t even need to fast to maintain my healthy low weight, but still believe one fast a week will help my body to heal itself and keeps me on the “straight and narrow”.
Nice sunny day in Sydney. Ideal for walking. Cheers all P
Thanks PVE- it was me asking- have left my run too late and may be having a nervous turn about no scales for 8 days! I will look that up though!
Merry I have chocolate too- doesn’t seem to affect me much if I have a little bit- only have organic 80% and I love it!
Just finished a good day of fasting- think I won’t sit at the table while my fam eats the meat pie I made with – with a paleo almond crust of course!
Have a lovely evening all.
You’ll be fine Annechristine. Just consider the whole 24 hour period whenever you are eating. If you plan a big lunch, skip breakfast and have a light dinner. Choose the salad or soup and avoid the carbs. I’m very adept at ordering hamburgers and just eating the insides. It can be done. Enjoy your trip and taste everything, just small amounts. 🙂 P
lol AC – Yes I too abandon my family on my fast days and sit in the other room. As interesting as I try and make my meals, I don’t want to sit and watch them eat the yummy stuff I cook for them.
Cannot wait until dinner time. Bit over it today and done nothing but sat on the sofa cuddling a hot water bottle so no calories burnt to speak of.
How do other people handle days when they begin a fast but really just want it to be over?
EA, I think, after a while of doing this, it just becomes sort of ‘normal’ to fast and you won’t notice it as much. I quite enjoy them now. Weird but true. I usually eat with my family, using adapting my FD meals to make something for them rather than the other way round. Keeping busy is a great strategy. And I always walk 5km to start the day. Enjoy that chicken salad tonight and you can have a hot chocolate (if you still want it) tomorrow. Happy to meet at a weekend if that suits everyone else better. Prefer Saturday in that case. CM’s gone AWOL….
Thanks for the travelling scales info PVE, I’ve written it down this time. I don’t know what ‘mignon’ means but ‘Petit Mignon’ sounds like something that might translate to ‘little heifer’.
I’m sure there is a French restaurant somewhere who’d enjoy using your little heifer translation Thin! I think this is really a 50:50 split of head space and physical aspects like cold weather that affect how I handle fast days. I’ve found it really helpful that people state that it’s hard going some days and you really have to concentrate on telling yourself you can eat tomorrow. Other days are easier emotionally and you’re in a happy space and you can sail through. I’ve really noticed three ‘states’: being really hungry for food which is quite intense; a sort of slow burn feeling of just needing to eat after a long fast, that gives such deep relief and comfort when you eat; and that more fleeting feeling where you could eat and enjoy it well enough but have now found how good it does you to ‘step away from the cake’.
Being carb sensitive and insulin resistant has equalled diabetes for me and I had got to the point of not being able to eat enough. Hormones ie insulin drove me to keep eating. In fact it was horrible. I envy people who can eat cake on NFD!!! But we each have to manage our own bodies and be kind to them. For people who like to eat (all of us?) not eating is both hard and triumphant. Long live we petit mignons! Freya T
Hilarious and true Freya. I also had that feeling at the end of last year- not diabetes but just never could satisfy my hunger- a really awful feeling which is just a dim memory now 🙂
Thanks for the tip PVE again great to have people on forum who are at different stages. You and bay always have that long term wisdom we all need- followed very closely by thin and CM. I am having a bit of a plateau but not worrying as even my acupuncturist said to me yesterday- look at your legs- they are small and a great shape- I still see them as ‘big’ but I need to adjust that- my 24 year daughter said that when she saw me standing next to my son that I ‘looked like the rest of us’ie my children!
EA I like to have some activity scheduled in my FDs but I always take to my bed early- like 7 and read or watch something so I just don’t have to think about managing food anymore!
Not fasting today- woke up feeling empty mad hungry so food today, fasting tomorrow.
Gorgeous and sunny here and off to yoga.
Hi AC
Congrats on looking like the rest of them! Well done. Your daughter must be very proud of you. What you’re going through has been described by many of us on the 5:2 journey. It has taken me a full year of being at goal weight to bring my view of my body shape and size into alignment with reality. A year ago, I began buying size 11 clothes, down from size 16, and for months I had to pinch myself to really “see” myself as a size 11. 🙄 It has given me an appreciation of people with eating disorders. However, I do not think that any of us is in this category. Maybe it’s a natural reaction to years of being too large. Who knows! I now see myself as a far smaller person, and it feels good. Enjoy the journey, all.
Cheers, Bay 🙂
Great post Freya
You have analysed the different reactions to fasting very well. We all fall into any of them on fast days. Getting past them is the trick, isn’t it?
Keep in mind that the traditional way of treating diabetes (frequent eating and insulin) creates obesity and exacerbates diabetes. Cutting food lowers blood sugars and encourages your body to heal. As Dr Jason Fung says “Insulin isn’t the solution, it is the problem.” Mr P, now completely off all insulin and Metformin, simply controls his blood sugar by how much he eats. It is that simple. Diabetes IS reversible and GPs all over the country need to start accepting it. They are killing people with medication and costing our health system millions. Passionate rave over. Cheers P 🙂
Hi PVE- I am with you. The emotional physical and financial cost of diabetes is unsupportable Into the future esp when there is an answer. I heard a dr speaking to Norman swan on the health report who was managing his type 1 diabetes with a low carb diet- he had been an extremely healthy athletic man- only in 30s and realised that the drug therapy was not saving his arteries from being ravaged and wouldn’t accept that this was now his lot. I was recently reading dr David perlmutters grain brain and he said that basically Drs now have the attitude of ‘just keep doing what you want then I will have a pill for you when it all goes wrong’- I am not dr bashing as in the end, as we all know, people need to take responsibility. It’s great that this WOL has such a huge popular following.
Bay I am also noticing that I am trying to shift my thinking that I have found a solution for the rest of my life and will not go back to being a big person again. I have thrown away some undies and packed a lot of clothes away ready to go to a market!
Hey Thin, not AWOL, just flippin’ busy, flippin’ cold & had a flippin lousy FD yesterday…… just tell me who left the freezer door open? Even the Hairy One wouldn’t go outside. And who are you calling a little heifer?? Yes, OH put on 3.5kg but has already dropped 2+. He’s trying to stick with me on my FDs to get the rest off, and is succeeding.
Hi Freya – Yay! Another West Aussie/5:2er/dog lover….and from just around the corner too! Wish I’d “stepped away from the cake” on Sunday!
Hilary – I found the airline food was ok as long as I didn’t eat the “mandatory” carb component and didn’t touch the bread, crackers etc. Still had wine (of course) and whatever else was going, but steered clear of the carbs. It made a huge difference to how I felt on arrival. Have a great time, you’re on hols! You can fix any damage when you get back.
Congrats Intesha, that’s amazing! Yes, my tastes have definitely changed, as well as being soooo much more aware of how certain foods affect me if I eat them.
AC, its only 8 days girl, you’ll be fine. You know exactly what you’re doing. Have a wonderful trip.
Perth Meetup Gang – I can fit in with you guys – just tell me where & when. CM xx
So many clever minds on here. You guys are really getting into the nitty-gritty and it’s fascinating reading about all the different subjects. Particularly the thinking that “there’s always a pill to fix it”. I still can’t get over people who go to their doctors and not question anything they say?!? For example, “Is there another way (drug-free/ diet/ exercise, etc)?” Even my OH is guilty of this on occasion, when I grill him after an appointment. Always, always, ask questions – knowledge is power – and if your doctor won’t take the time to explain it to you, then find another doctor. Seriously! Thanks for all the really informative posts. It just shows me how much more there is to learn on this WOL. CM xx
Ohhh this was a good read to catch up on today! Lots of great information and handy facts. You’re all very knowledgable about the different food types and the different ways they affect our bodies. I am a carb monster- it is by far my favourite food group! But I don’t eat white rice, white bread or potatoes and i eat very little pasta. I’ve leant the power of substitution! We eat a lot of brown rice, quinoa, rye bread, sweet potato and have pasta maybe once every fortnight. There is nothing I love more than waking up after a fast day and devouring my toast with butter and jam though and I will never give that up! I am slowly creeping back down towards 64kg which is what I was when I went to NZ and ate all of the food in the country.
Intesha I am so excited about your loss! We plateaud together and we are losing together. A big high five for your self control at the high tea! Freya your 3 stages of hunger had me nodding as I read. So very true! Some days I experience all of those, numerous times and other days I just get a bit of ‘boredom hunger’ and can be distracted out of it. My heart breaks for you not being able to eat cake, I hope you get all of the fantastic reults from 5:2 that you hope for. PVE your husband sounds like hes managing his really well, too. You two have this down now don’t you! AC I hope you enjoyed yoga, I miss yoga and need to get back in to it. Thin, did you hit the mall this weekend?
MK xx
So many posts to catch up on and so many newbies… Welcome! This group enriched by even more inspirational, informative and friendly participants… Ah PVE and the Wiseones ..Got on the scales after non-fast, salted cashew and chocolate eating day and down to 71kg so only 3 to go until my goal weight (go figure, after 6weeks+ plateauing!) .. Not worried it’s taken nearly 10 months .. I’m now just within a healthy BMI so should I wait until I reach goal weight and then perhaps adjust this?
Thank you for the support once again … It’s weird but I still see myself as a ‘fat’ person though I’m now a size 11-12 after pushing a size 16-18 for so long .. Hubby says I’ll ‘never be a size 10’ well of course, famous last words! So, should I maybe look at the range of kilograms within my healthy BMI and take a midway point? Is that what you mean PVE? I’m really going by how I feel and look and now I’m where I am, I consider there is more of a way to go than what I originally thought!
Good on you Hoot. Yes, that is what I mean. Find a midway point within healthy. I also realise now that we can all be the weight we were in our 20s (if we were healthy). I would not have believed I could wear anything less than 12. Then a shop assistant talked me into a smaller size. I wear 8s in jeans and small or extra small in tops! Down from 16. Mind you, the sizes have changed since I was young. 12 in the 1960s was very small. Sad that they had to change sizes to trick people into believing they had not gained weight!
Have a great day SHs. P 🙂
Yay for you hoot! Yes I am accepting that the last 3 kgs may take a while- am 168cm and 69kgs with a goal of 66- when I reach that- which may take some time I will think about readjusting to 64- my BMI is 24.4 so no wriggle room yet!
Wow PVE that is truly amazing. My cardiologist was fabulous and did t increase my meds- instead was thrilled that I made the necessary lifestyle changes and in subsequent visit very happy and didn’t want to see me for a year!
I never thought I could be a size 10 again but listening to you all- who knows.
FD today- going to put some fresh coriander parsley and ginger in my broccoli and zucchini soup today for a change.
EA you can’t do this – your people are still little but had a talk with my big kids so biggest one volunteered to make dinner tonight and littlest one- 15- says she will always do Monday night as I am always fasting on Mondays.
Rainy here today so tidying house and packing camper trailer for next week
CM – thank you for that tip about the airline food. I’m similar to MK88 in that I enjoy good quality carbs (love my porridge in the winter) but need to watch serving sizes. I have ordered GF meals for my son on the flights – it will be interesting to see what they serve him. I’m not much of a wine drinker, so I’m quite happy to pass on that – if they have a cider on offer I’m sunk!
I had a nasty episode last Thursday with pain below the curve of my right ribs that nearly made me faint. My GP thinks it may be a gall stone and hopes it was one that made its way out and is gone, but thinks the fasting may have something to do with it making its presence felt. It happened on a fast day, so no fatty meal involved as often happens with a gall bladder attack, so he felt that the lower volumes of food may have decreased the fluid that passes through the bile duct. (A bit like when my brother decided to lose some weight, did so quite quickly and concentrated the urea in his tissues, bringing on an excruciating bout of gout!) Just waiting for my blood test results now to ensure that my liver is behaving itself, although he couldn’t feel any enlargement. I also asked to know my cholesterol results as last year they were a bit high. I’ve never managed to get my blood sugars over 4.6 when I use hubby’s meter so I’m not worried about diabetes.
Hi Hilary
So sorry you had such pain on Thursday. Do you know if you drank two litres of water or equivalent ? Michael Mosley says it’s really important to drink at least two litres a day when fasting, as we don’t get the water that comes in food. I have to measure my water intake as otherwise I don’t drink enough. I just fill up a litre bottle twice in the day.
Cheers, Bay 🙂
Hi Bay – thank you for your thoughts. I really struggle with drinking water (feel as if I am drowning) but I am wedded to my teas and a couple of coffees and would have at least 8 250ml cups on any day and a couple of thinner cups of soup on FDs as well, so I hope I’m getting enough. I’d have had 5 cups at the time the pain hit at 1.15.
It’s all a question of balancing things, isn’t it? Constantly sipping at water is so bad for teeth (washing away the protective saliva which then takes 20 minutes to regenerate), so I try and have my cups of tea a decent period of time apart and drink them reasonably quickly.
Ah yes.. The old SW and SSW’s PVE .. I think I was around the top end of those sizes at an SW (it must have changed over sometime in the 70’s ? ) I can’t recall ever being a size 10 I don’t think, but I remember being an 11 at 23 years old and breastfeeding (My mother thought I was dying!) It will be lovely when I reach my ‘wriggle room’ … I think we are on a parallel universe Anne Christine (by the way, that is my first and second names!) I’m 169cm and 71kg (down from 88)
Just read your post Hilary and I had a very similar incident to you at about 4-5 months in to 5:2… Doctor thought it may have been gallstones so sent me for ultrasound… All ok.. Had several other tests but all appeared okay.. Just found that my pulse rate was very low.. I really think with me it was some dehydration so I’m much more vigilant now about drinking water (especially on waking) My doctor felt in the end it was the body adjusting to this way of life and putting up some kind of last minute ‘attack’ to jolt me back into old ways (sounds a bit too spiritual for a medical professional doesn’t it?)
Funny hoot- yes we are on track with each other- yay for us losing 17 kgs each.
Hilary are you drinking herbal or black tea? Check out with dr or similar but my understanding is that black tea is a diuretic so depleting your water, not adding. I have been a tea addict since I was 10 but have worked hard to drink water on rising then including herbal tea in my day as it doesn’t deplete water.
Hi CG how is your back- thinking of you and hoping you can rest up.
Did my second FD for week yesterday and no weight loss:( slow and steady 🙂
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