Day 4, New Zealand, NFD
Day 5, New Zealand, NFD
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@elektron – I typically find my appetite suppressed from a hard workout. However at some point I would get hungry and I would feel really hungry. It is difficult to under eat and exercise. I’m actually have better luck with exercising during a fast. I don’t push as hard but there is also something in just knowing I’m not going to eat that seems to help with the hunger.
Day 5 Oman FD
Doing some HIT this morning…25mins. Hope I don’t get too hungry after!
@annemarilyn..wow getting into the 190s is a great achievement! I hope to get there this year.
DAY 5 – UK – NFD
FD not successful yesterday – despite trying. Went to friends int the evening, chilli and cheesecake – would have been difficult to refuse as she had gone to so much trouble. (Cheesecake topping made with Avocado and lime and base Almonds and dates!!)
Consequently a lb. up from yesterday. Weight lost so far this month – zilch! BUT more importantly no gain from 1st. March – just yo-yo-ing. Now off to Bristol for a couple of days, which will involve more eating. I will do my best, but won’t beat myself up if it goes awry. Tomorrow is another day! I so wanted to lose a bit this month tho, as I am off to the Scillies in a month. Life is wonderful, but the more you do the harder it is to keep to a regime. I must find a way….did my short run yesterday (Couch to 5k on NHS site – Week 5) that helps.
However, with this WOL my attitude has changed – no gain is a success, a little lost is a great achievement…we can hop on or off the bus at it suits. Good luck all.xx
Day 5 UK NFD
I thought I felt thinner this morning so I got on the scales despite it not being the right day but was disappointed to see the exact same weight as the first of Feb. 94.9kg. No change despite sticking to everything:( This is why I meant to only weigh myself once a week. I seem to have to reach every weight twice. But having hit it twice experience over the past couple of months tells me it should be a thing of the past next time. Onwards…
Day 5 Kent, U.K. NFD Goal 4 lbs plus slimmer waist
Feeling slimmer but resisting weighing. Got some hula lessons from a friend at the gym yesterday. Definitely improved my performance. Far less effort in a good technique, worked better with smaller hoop at gym too.
I used to average 4 fruits per day last year and could not lose weight. Now I just have berries and natural yogurt at the weekend and am losing. I guess my body does say fruit is another form of sugar and cause an insulin spike. I agree every food behaves differently with different people probably dependent on the quality of their gut bacteria. It’s one of the reasons I am making Kefir probiotic.Feeling really good both mentally, physically and emotionally so in a good place to be strong and resist temptation.
Keep Fasting
Just read the results for Feb, 53people losing 222 lbs, impressive Feb Challenge results.
I thought it might be inspiring if someone posts their results for each month, if they have done all the challenges. I think they started last May.
Has anyone done them all?
I will keep a tally of mine for the next 6 months as that should get me to goal.
Day 5 NFD NZ
Really looking forward to a FD tomorrow.
I have been thinking hard about my old healthy habits and having felt like I was pretty close to rock bottom last night I’ve been honest with my reflection and know I need to manage my NFDs like I used to eat everyday when I was thinner.
I always planned my intake in so far as I ate the same one of two meals for breakfast everyday
I ate basically the same lunches rotating through less than four choices and dinner was almost always vegetables without the meat portion I made for the family.
I was also training very hard back then so I know my exercise level burned calories that I don’t burn now despite still working out 6 days a week.
A big part of the problem seems to be I’ve convinced myself I can eat what I like and stay thin, I know that I used to be much like that, I trained very heavily, often twice a day totalling 2 1/2 – 3 hours a day multiple times a week. I’m not doing that anymore but still approaching eating like I am.
it’s time to accept reality and acknowledge many things have changed and if I want to lose this weight I have to change too. Thinking I can add a couple of fast days and continue overeating every other day isn’t going to cut it.
Day 5 UK NFD
Have a full day of lovely activities planned with my adorable 3 year old grandson. There will be food challenges but at least 3 year olds aren’t offended if you’re not eating!
Looking forward to a good fast day tomorrow. I have a busy and long work day which makes fasting easier. There will be buffet served prior to a late afternoon meeting but I have trained myself not to partake. Hoping to reverse the effect of two of my meals this weekend, which weren’t great, in time for my regular Friday weight check.
Have a good day – stay strong and true to yourselves.
Day 5 – Brittany, France – NFD
After yesterday’s FD my weight this morning is 66.9 kg. Going down!
Not yet done my half hour on the exercise bike this morning; but I’ve planned to do it after lunch today.
I try to keep my eating in an 8 hour window but I’m feeling really, really hungry this morning and I’ve got to keep my wits about me while I’m playing the organ in church later. So I’m going to have a banana.
Hope everyone has a great Sunday.
Day 5, London, UK, NFD
Well done pocketeers, done & dusted………..Onwards!!!!
I had a good FD yesterday, by which I mean painless; a few tummy grumbles shot down with glugging lots of water. Keeping busy helps so much as I don’t have time to think about food!!! Although I used to think food ruled my life, living from one meal to the next, planning and thinking about what I would eat next, all the time!! FDs make me lighter in so many ways, less on my mind means I have time to do the things I procrastinate about, which means less anxiety about those things I haven’t done!!!
@fatrabbit…… you probably are thinner, maybe the tape-measure would be a better friend than the scales!! Like you, I seem to see the same weight a few times, but I know it’ll be the last time I see it!! I tend to stay the same or even gain throughout the week then have a whoosh, but after a FD the expectation of a loss is so HIGH!!! I think daily weighing has educated me in the rhythm of how I lose weight – down, down, plateau, plateau, up, down….whoosh (well something like that, I’m really not too bothered as long as the general trend…..Is DOWN!!!)
Good luck today everybody, I see cake and sweets in my near future, must be mindful!!!…..Stay strong,from grey, wet, dreary London!
Day 5 / UK / NFD
Yesterday was a fairly controlled NDF, I am still not in the habit of adding it all to MFP, but I didn’t go to town or had to accept humongous if delicious doughnuts. Another NFD today, then starting the week on FD.
Current weight stats:
Starting weight (20 Feb): 71.2kg
March starting weight: 69.4kg
Weight after latest FD (4 March): 68.7kg
Day5, Cumbria, nfd
Phew, that was a tough one yesterday! Felt really hard done by by evening time and was a very snappy mum/wife. 😟 I’ll be extra nice today!
Realised I’m doing ADF (not 4:3)unintended but apart from feeling rubbish last night it’s been really fine for the most part.
Good luck everyone. Xx
Day 5: NFD in Gloucestershire, UK:
Did well on my fast-day yesterday, thanks mainly to knowing I had a small group of fasting-buddies with me who I could name and have in my pocket. Thanks @fatrabbit @reid, @metatauta, @flourbaby and @inittothinit and thanks too to @at for virtual hand-holding and hugs.
I know there were other fasters too, and I hope everyone I can’t name did well.
AnneMarylyn: Special Congratulations to you for getting into the hundreds and away from the two-hundreds xx
Coda: Best wishes to you and for your dad at this difficult time xx
Day 5 UK NFD 🌈
Exercise went well yesterday, gym, dog walking and waist whittle exercises. Day of rest today except WW. Might go out for a walk though as it’s sunny but cold here ATM. Every little helps.
Gave up sugar for lent, have had headaches but nothing that a headache tablet and water can’t handle. Double whammy this will help with this WOL too.
Have a good day all.
Weighing- I used to just weigh at the end of the month, maybe a little cheat check mid month, but in order to analyse myself more I decided to weight each day, well my findings are I don’t like yoyo of the numbers, makes me feel a little defeated, someone else said they only weigh after a Fast day, I think this might be the option for me as the numbers are good 😊And spur me on, hopefully the general trend will be down either way, but I feel happier not seeing the yoyo effect.
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@jojo58 yes results were good for Feb 53 people 222lbs, that was the ones that gave their start and finish weight or weight loss, so it would have been a lot more, alot more people finished the challenge over 100, just by checking in each day or every few days. It was a very successful group. I’m sure this one will be too.
@onahealthyhigh I also use a smaller plate, I bought a set and the dinner plates were like platters and the side plates were like a slightly bigger tea plate, so I find I use these more. Well done for pointing it out , little tips like these can really help.
Today is a milestone of sorts. I just realized today that I have just as large of skinfolds on my back (over kidney) than I do on my belly. I probably haven’t been in this state for almost 40 years.
It is kind of giving me a weight goal of where I should stop trying to lose fat. The 12% to 15% body fat range should put me around 75kg. That might be hard to hold as I’m also trying to build some muscle mass but I think I could probably still afford to lose 4kg to 5kg of fat. However as far as BMI goes it is still a lofty 24.8, just barely in the “normal” weight zone. Hmmm … BMI … mumble … mumble … mumble
5kg seems like a lot right now, but I’ve already lost more than 25kg. It is really hard to believe I was carrying more than 40kg of fat 5 years ago.
Day 5 Melbourne NFD
@annmarilyn well done you – it’s so good to slip down into a whole new and lower place – highly motivating.
@coda so sorry to hear about your Dad’s extra surgery, and here’s hoping he is now on the road to a good recovery.
New week – one day at a time.
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@dykask, thanks for sharing your journey, I really enjoy following it! You are inspirational.
Day 5. Belfast NFD
I’ve just spent an hour reading and posting and it has disappeared into the ether. 🙁
I’ve been stuck going up and down with the same 2 kgs. I haven’t bee totalling calories but did a quick tally yesterday NFD I realise I’ve not been eating enough. So goal for this week is to eat up to TDEE on NFDs and more water.
@dyask we grew up in a town but our larder was always full of seasonal home pickles and jams. We also lived according to the No S diet (thank younLindaSue for that link). Veggies and fruit were the backbone of our diet. I am trying to cut down on refined carbs but have no intention of giving up fruit – home made yoghurt and fresh fruit is one of my favourite meals, and when we are in a hotel, that is my breakfast. Yum!
@coda I’m so sorry to hear about your father. It is a stressful time for you and your family. I wish him a speedy recovery.
@metatauta I’m envious of your hula hooping! I can still only manage 6!
Fasting tomorrow. Just two FDs this week and no back to backs.
Onwards and downwards.
Good morning fellow fasters!
Day 5– NFD– Virginia, USA.
I’m wondering if I’m eating too little, please help!
If I’m supposed to eat my TDEE on NFDs which according to calculator is 2000 Calories, but every NFD I manage to stay on 1500, wourkout 4 days a week and try to get my 10k steps a day. Should I be eating 2000 Calories a day?
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@nella Jimenez the important thing is to stay between your BMR plus whatever calories you burn through exercise and your TDEE so that your body doesn’t down regulate your body to compensate. Homeostasis is the bodies way of keeping things in balance using feedback loops and you don’t want it working against you. Fasting doesn’t trigger it (due to mechanisms developed to ensure the body doesn’t get too weak to search for food during times of famine) but constantly low intake does so it is critical to let your body know there is enough food available and that it is unnecessary to step down a gear. This also prevents the body from raiding muscles for nutrients and energy which is important as muscle burns more fuel than fat. If it starts to disappear it becomes a negative feedback cycle of reducing metabolic rate still further…if you reduce calories every day you are just doing caloric restriction and are unlikely to maintain the weight loss. In ADF, which every other day fasting this becomes even more important as there are more fast days and the potential for the body to feel deprived is multiplied so I make a conscious effort to eat as close as possible to TDEE every NFD. Unlike 5/2 it places no maximum on calories on NFDs but they found in the studies that people generally ate about 125% of TDEE and still had good weight loss. On 5/2 itbis necessary not to go beyond TDEE because the number of NFDs is higher the fast days and there is the risk overeating on them will undo them. With ADF this is very unlikely to happen as the ratio is 1/1.
@at so true about weight loss being a mind game!
@ciren2 Yay well done:)
@AnneMarylyn Yay for under 200:) That is my next target.
@mrsgettingthere Welcome to ADF, I find it a very natural pttern to follow. I have wondered if the unwell feeling (I have had it a few times) comes when the body is switching over to fat burning. It is a possible reason for headaches too, especially when you know you have drunk enough. In which case it is the sign of something good and is easier to put up with.
Day 5 USA (Illinois) – FD
After two days of not so controlled eating, I’m looking forward to a FD today. The scale is just over my 160# maintenance today at 161.4, but I’m finding 6:1 a necessity to maintain. Church this morning then paperwork this afternoon, so it won’t be hard.
@jojo53 – I started with the May challenge with @coda, so I don’t really know if that was the first one, but it might have been! I’ve done them all with various leaders – began at @185 pounds, got to 160 in mid-November. I had read the book and worked on my own from March to May losing about 8 pounds, then I discovered this forum.
@coda – hope and pray your dad’s surgery isn’t too debilitating for him, or for the rest of your family.
@NellaJimenez – your regimen of exercise is terrific! If you can manage only 1500 calories on NFD’s, then I would say more power to you. I find I cannot exercise much more than a 15-minute power walk on my FD’s. I think much of this WOL is how do you feel? Do you have enough energy? Looks like @fatrabbit gave some good advice.
ACV is MUCH more tolerable without the turmeric. I even enjoy it! Warmed up water with 2 tablespoons ACV then a little honey. Nice warm beverage.
Onward and downward!
ADF – found this – looked interesting: http://www.webmd.boots.com/diet/features/is-fasting-good-for-your-health
Day 5 – Switzerland – NFD
Good to hear that the pocketeers had a good FD yesterday. I’m really pleased to say I managed to stay below TDEE for yesterday’s NFD and am on track for the same today.
@obesa – thanks for the tip about R4 PM, I’m just catching up with it now. Utterly love Eddie Mair, he’s lost a lot of weight too over recent years… Not sure Lord Falconer’s ‘Diet Coke and apples diet’ is for me though, much prefer the way we’re doing it!
@skinnylove – hope the move went well, great hearing you sound so positive
@coda – gosh, your poor Dad, hope he recovers quickly and he’s feeling better soon.
@nella – it’s entirely up to you! 5:2 ‘basic’ involves calculating your TDEE for NFDs, and eating 1/4 of that for FD, but everyone has their individual adaptation. A first ‘tweak’ for a lot of people who exercise is to calculate their TDEE for a ‘sedentary’ lifestyle and eat according to that. Then again, if you’re happy on 1,500, maybe that’s all you need. Dr Mosley’s Blood Sugar Diet starts you off on 8 weeks of 800kcals a day. I had a think about that – 8 wks isn’t that long after all – but decided I’d stick to what I know works for me, and concentrate on doing it properly…
Day 5, Dunsborough, West Aust, NFD
Have lost an unbelievable 0.7kg since 1st March. I really think this can’t be right, and won’t be surprised to find a correction when I weigh in after 7 days. I usually weigh weekly, and not sure why I jumped on the scales this morning, but won’t be doing it again. I know weight fluctuates daily, and I hope it doesn’t do my head in if I find I weigh more on 7th March than on 5th March, because irrespective of what I weigh on the 7th, it will definitely be less than my 1st March weight. Sounds very convoluted doesn’t it.
@frogs777 – you and me both. I just fall apart when out socialising and do brilliantly at home. Well, actually, I’m getting a bit better when out socialising and find that if I steer clear of alcohol I can do ok. Part of the trick for me is not to start eating tempting foods. I sit away from any nibbles, and if I must nibble then look for hommus, cheese or nuts. I know cheese and nuts are high in fat, but at least they’re ‘healthy’ unlike crisps or biscuits.
Day 5, Sunday — Colorado USA– NFD
Hello, Friends!
Shaking off those mid-winter blahs. Down a mere 0.3 lbs from start of March, but thrilled to finally have scales moving in the correct direction again! 😃👍🏼
Catching up on posts while putting in some treadmill time. Set to a steep incline & nice steady clip, hoping to torch some fat cells while seeing how my Fellow Fasters are faring.
Supposed to be a gorgeous sunny day here today, so a bike ride is in my plans, as well as long walk with my doggy. That’s plenty of cardio for one day, saving weight training for tomorrow morning. Also, may drag OH out on quest for a hoola hoop.
Question for others: Any difficulties working out on FDs?
I find that I can knock out cardio (walk, bike, run, row) on FDs no problem. In fact, exercise fills some time (away from food & kitchen!) No low energy issues, I can still Fast okay.
But weight lifting makes me SO hungry! Afterwards, I’m usually craving eggs, cottage cheese, anything!
Anyone else having to juggle your schedule to fit food, Fasts & exercise in?
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I am striving for “PROGRESS, NOT PERFECTION.”
And before eating, I ask myself, “WILL THIS GET ME CLOSER TO MY GOALS?”
Day 5….. Florida…..NFD
Good Morning Friends!
After reading all the posts, I’ve come to the conclusion that, we must have the scale discussion. Not only for the newbies but as a refresher for us old timers as well.
In many homes around the world, there is an object that we allow to lie, cheat and steal from us on a regular basis. We all know it does this but we still invest so much time and energy into what says. Any other object, we would have thrown out the window by now, but there it still sits. The dreaded scale!
So, as I sit here and talk about the scale and how it is not good to solely rely on what it has to say. I should mention the reasons why it should not be your all for one way to measure success.
5:2 has this ability to do so much for us. One way is it helps our bodies, use something or get rid of something not any of us like. Those extra rolls. 5:2 has taught our body to use that extra. So there fore some weeks, the scales will not show any reduction and could possibly show a gain. When this happens don’t give up, don’t lose hope, because this WOL is still working, in your favor! Sounds odd right? Well, it’s the truth because your body all though the scales will not agree is loosing those extra rolls that none of us like. So, instead of lbs you loose by listening to the scale, the tape measure and/or your clothes are telling you more of the truth.
So when the scales are being meanies, go to the tape measure or a outfit three months ago that was to tight or small, let them be the voice of succcess for the week because at least they are going to tell you the truth.
Now on to story time…… in Jan or Feb. I can really remember but I think it was Feb. I had an awful time with the scales. For three weeks, I kept gaining and losing these dreaded 4 lbs. one week, I’m 151lbs, the next I’m 146lb and so on. I felt like tigger from Winnie the Poo bounce all over the place. I was so distressed over that damn scale but each morning, I walked into my closet fished a pair of pants from my too small pile and put them on. And the things fit perfect! Not to tight not to lose but perfect. These weeks were the weeks, I also got the most feedback from friends and family. The scale wasn’t playing nice but DAMN, my clothes were. It was such a rewarding experience to walk into the closet and see progress!
The point of this whole post, is to serve as a reminder that in this WOL and life, success is never measured by one thing, it’s always measured as a whole of everything we do.
Okay that’s it…. I hope I helped just a small little bit!
NFD for me
Peace be with you!
Day 5 – NFD – Canada
Lovely and bright here this morning too! Am feeling sunny as last night was the first night I’ve gone to bed with the scales just under 140 and woken up at a clear 138.0. Am moving down again. I spent yesterday being moderately sensible, I didn’t snack too much (it was an ‘S’ day) and ate healthy foods and left 1/3 of the gluten free pasta on my plate. But I did share a bottle of wine with OH. Did yoga, loved it and am getting stronger. And meditated for all of 10 mins but it was a start and felt good.
So – being mindful this weekend!
Day 5: Glasgow, Scotland. Fast Day.
I’m doing well (just back from a 7 mile walk on a Fast Day!), and I’ve got today’s 500 calories planned out. I’m not weighing myself until Wednesday (by which time I’ll have just completed another Fast Day). I’m fine with the ‘alternate fast day’ thing, but I don’t know how long I can keep it up (anyone out there who has done this – for longer than a week!)
I think I’ve lost a pound or more since I started the March challenge – my walking trousers and gilet felt looser today – here’s hoping, anyway.
Good luck to all of you – we’re 5 days in, and it’s been a help to me to be ‘accountable’ to other people (by posting what we’re up to each day…)
@and…exhale, @nella Jimenez. I was wondering why MM doesn’t take account of risks to metabolic rate in the BSD. I wonder if it is assuming that anyone with blood sugar problems that bad already has a dreadful metabolic rate and can’t do any more harm? Just speculation. Or that the risks of diabetes over rides the risk of reducing it. Or has he found something that contradicts the finding that caloric restriction mucks up your metabolic rate hypothesis? Although I thought that had been well established. He has said that he would do 5/2 differently now. I wish he would share more information. I suspect one change would be to the 500 calories. It was rather chosen at random I think. I suspect 800 would work just as well. Andd I suspect timing would play a role. However these are simply my suspicions. The risk of metabolic rate decline is not one of mine. There is so much information out there, some of it contradictory, that one does have to pick and mix rather! we are all individuals with different life styles and goals. But my feeling is that doing that much exercise you need to stay quite close to the 2000 mark or risk sabotaging yourself. I think most people would agree a sustainable loss is more valuable than a fast one.
@emme1956 I have been doing ADF since Nov 9th. If anything it is getting easier. So yes it is sustainable for a lot longer than a week. I have now gone down three sizes:)
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