Day 23 Kent FD
Today went well – so busy I didn’t get time to eat and managed to organise dinner time so that I didn’t spend ages in the kitchen. Didn’t drink much water though!
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I think I missed yesterday so:
Days 22 & 23 not very good NFDs Portugal.
I haven’t been able to catch up on all the posts. Busy weekend with work. But I am hoping to do b2b fast tomorrow and Wednesday. Anyone else fasting on these days? It will be difficult after a wreckless few days over the weekend but still aiming to get down into the 63.something kg by the end of this month!
Day 23 : Cheshire, UK : CD/NFD
I didn’t eat for almost 24 hours. Last night I ate at 7.30 pm and tonight I ate at 7pm. Had less than my TDEE, so very controlled and mindful.
Big hug and thank you to @lilymartin
@coda – yes, something is different this time. Even though I was very sad and felt heartbroken, it didn’t knock me down they way it has in the past. I remember earlier last year, reaching goal and then going through some relationship trauma and I couldn’t log on cos all I wanted to do was comfort eat. Something has definitely changed in me.
@lou Belles – thank you. I think I may care/love myself more than I used to.
@back2thefuture ….aww, how sweet. So let me tell you 🙂 He rang me tonight and told me how much he loved me. I told him that I had been doing a lot of self-reflection and had the tools to make those inner changes. He feels reassured.
Thank you to this lovely thread, for being there for me. Your love and support has really helped me through this.
@rocy65 -I hope your counselling helps with your anxiety. I don’t know if you have ever tried Bach Flower Remedies but I use them and they do seem to help. Maybe try Elm or White Chestnut, which are for anxiety. Boots and Holland & Barratt sell them. A few drops in water is all that is needed. There is Bach Flower Rescue Remedy too, for immediate relief, when the anxiety gets too much. Sending you a big warm hug xoxo
Second post.
First FD was going well until I added a Starbucks skinny latte to the total number of cals. Ah well, I did 70 lengths of swimming training which will balance it out. Second fast day tomorrow and I’m looking forward to it. I’m quite motivated and have a new project making curtains to keep me busy.
Anna6 thank you for the advice and good luck to you with your exam.
GoldenSun you seem to be back on track. I’m glad things seem to be working out better.
Rocy65 good luck with your counselling. I have a friend who had PTSD who got amazing help. She’s like a new girl!
Good luck to all fasters. Off to bed now. Good night my world wide friends.🌛💤
Day 23 – Canada – FD
Weigh-in day today 141.5 lb. that’s down 1 pound from last week. Yeah me!
Just five or six days ago I was feeling so down in the dumps because I felt I was spiralling out of control. I’m now ready to break my fast and have a light dinner from the Fast Diet Cookbook – the red lentil tikkaa masala – it smells quite yummy. This was my second fast day in a row — a B2B fast — although I did go over my calories last night but not too seriously so I’m still going to count it as a fast day.
Reading everyone’s posts and listening to the Diet Doctor and Dr. Jason Fung fuelled my resolve to keep going. This is a terrific forum and I’m so glad I’m in it.
Have a good week everyone.
Day 23 – Cumbria UK – FD
Lovely weekend – some good food and lovely red wine but tried not to over do it and stay aware of my calories!
Decided to try a fluid only FD today, have not done one of those for ages – so drank only water and tea with a dash of skimmed milk today – strangely I felt no massive hunger pangs at any time so hope will sleep well tonight. Kept busy today Pilates class and a yoga class – my teachers have been amazing ensuring I do moves to help with my hamstring and protecting my knee as well.
As it’s getting late here and I have an early start tomorrow I need to get myself to bed soon, I’ll have to try and catch up with the posts tomorrow.
Hope the small group of pocketeers are staying strong and doing OK and those on NFD/CD are being mindful.
I love this WOL and how it has given me control over my body and my mind. If I ever stray I go back to a favourite saying to get me back on track “Weight loss is like driving – If you ever veer off the road, just make a U-Turn and head back in the right direction” and this WOL certainly allows us to do this at any time.
Day 24 – Tokyo, Japan – NFD – 77.5kg
My FD was easy, but even though I consumed some salt my weight still dropped a lot again. It seems my body is very quick to burn off stored glycogen and generally dump excess water. I didn’t workout but I did claim about 120 floors on real stairs. Tomorrow my weight will probably be back up around 79kg even though I’ll probably drink a lot less today.
A big reason why I don’t plan on fasting during my upcoming trip is when I’m fasting I have to use a bathroom too often. This is much worse in the winter and I find myself even using it 2 or 3 times an hour sometimes. This typically only happens from about 10 hours into a fast until around 20 hours or so. I’m probably drinking too much during that part of the fast but that is hard to give up and it is mostly water. Typically around a 500 ml / hour.
Day 24 NFD Country West Australia.
Not a whinge ( well probably is a whinge so apologies ) but feeling a bit despondent.
No real tips yet re weight loss as to how others manage to eat what they like on NFDs and lose weight whereas I have had to be SO strict with my intake on both FDs and NFDs.
Have eaten below TDEE since last Saturday after 60 hour fast and already 300 gms weight gain.
I do accept 1-2 kgs bounce on the scales but have virtually given up cheese, chocolate, sweets, wine, most carbs, cake, biscuits, all junk food – didn’t use to eat much anyway – and still not making a lot of headway in the weight stakes.
Other benefits of fasting probably going OK.
At the moment just can’t see that I will still be managing this in 12 months as I am having to be SO strict. I know envy is one of the 7 deadly sins but I am very envious of the progress some are making without having to be so restrictive.
Think I’ll be around the bend if I have to be eating such minute amounts in a year or 2! 😓
Day 24 UK FD
Yesterday was meant to be a FD and it was until I decided to finish off the whole nut that was calling me from the fridge. So it’s all gone now. So a slip up so gonna carry on my FDs today and Wednesday so I feel I haven’t cheated.
Fuvvie and Coda, yes will head up the 28 Day February 2017 Challenge – how do I start a link? Create a topic? I will record everyone’s name and check them off each day recording FDs and NFDs so that everyone can check in. This really helps me. Otherwise I’m sure I wouldn’t sign in each day. Then record the weight loss at the end of the month as a group total. Power in numbers.
Lilymartin – everyone if different but the 5 2 is stick to 500 cars for two days a week and eat what you want for five days and you should see benefits. Obviously this is working on the fact you do not over eat the NFDs. We have found as a group if you are also sensible on these days then the weight comes off quicker.
You wanted tips – I find, like you the weight doesn’t “drop off” . I really have to be strict. And if works if I am. However if I’m too strict I will fall off the wagon. (Memories of Berts earlier post about a wagon sprung to mind, ha ha).
So what I do is this – start everyday with warm water and lemon, which I drink throughout the day, sometimes hunger is actually thirst, so keep hydrated – most important, water or lemon water. If I start well it sets momentum for rest of the day.
Then only have one evening meal on my FDs – I am not satisfied if I graze little and often.
On NFDs I try to choose filling wise foods and do not snack. I.e. Eggs are good, a wholemeal cheese salad roll is more filling than a ham roll, chicken and veg/salad etc, veg soup, my new fav 1/4 avocado on wholemeal toast 1 slice with sweet chilli drizzled on top. I watch my portion sizes you will be surprised at how much you actually need for energy.
If going out I try to have a lighter meal earlier so I can have what I want later. Wanna enjoy myself when I’m out as I’m not out that much.
Treats are just that – occasional not everyday, so say it’s someone’s birthday I will have a bit of the cake. Or if I’m out I might have a dessert as it’s occasional. I find I enjoy them more too.
That’s what I do I hope it helps, however I by no means find this easy. It takes focus and the support of this group. I hope you persevere.
As long as I end the month less than I started it that’s a good thing. Try not to be overwhelmed with totals.
Day 24 Sydney – NFD – 0.4 kg
Thrilled to be down another 400g on the scales this morning. It is totally in line with the 1 lb a week that makes this regime slow but sustainable. My watch which was tight after Christmas is already a bit loser.
This next week will be my critical week as I am away at the (long) weekend for Australia Day. If I can have another good week and finish the challenge with a good weigh in on Tuesday 31st I will be set for a good February.
I am planning to swap my second FD this week from Thursday to Wednesday and might throw in an extra one on Sunday on the long drive home in the car from our camping trip. I find it easy to reject fast food so I can keep myself hydrated with lots of water and tea in the car and perhaps an apple to keep me going.
Day 24 – Brisbane, Aus – NFD
Sometimes, the day after a FD, I tend to nibble on lots of snacks throughout the morning… but today, I haven’t felt like eating too much at all (had a fairly decent breakfast though)… just one of those random things I guess.
@lilymartin – it can be quite the challenge at times reading up on all the excellent progress people are having, while things move a lot slower for yourself (I really struggled with the exact same thing earlier this month)… my suggestion – keep things sustainable (don’t cut out all treats, you need something to get you through… at least when the scales disappoint, you won’t feel totally cheated!)
Think about how it changes the way you see food (sounds like you’ve made some pretty big changes already… that’s a plus), and that while progress is slow now, it’ll probably start moving in the other direction if you stop. Keep it sustainable, keep it going and there will be changes on the scale… try not to get discouraged by seeing other people go faster than you… make it about you… remember this isn’t a race.
Day 24 – Melbourne – FD I joined the b2bers!
I woke up and thought, hey, I reckon I could continue on today, so I am. But I had to have a boiled egg about 1pm or I would have gone off the rails I think.
@lany36 – thanks Heaps! All fab suggestions and I’m not a meat eater, either, although I do eat fish now and again. I will make bigger dinners for my next day’s lunches, and think about yoghurt and nuts, as I usually have both of those on hand.
@lilymartin – it was good to ‘whinge’ as it reminded me I wanted to respond. I have found that I absolutely have to avoid bread, pasta, rice, white potatoes on NFDs, or I don’t continue losing. That said, I have gone overboard several times (eg over Christmas) with those things and some sugar, and I think it helped in some way – maybe by heading off a starvation-mode metabolic slowdown. I’m attempting to install LCHF as a WOL, with varying success (but I’m jolly well determined to get there this time) as I feel quite convinced that that is the easiest way to keep the weight off, long term. But I was very happy to take on board from Dr Fung, that occasional celebration eating (ie overeating) is normal for the human body, so we should let our hair down sometimes. The trick, for most of us and definitely me, being to understand the ‘occasional’ bit, which is so difficult in these times of plenty. Hang in there, it will happen, even if slow, and remember the health side of it, too. Lots of good wishes to you 🍀
Day 22 Quebec. NFD
The pain in my back came back this we so I ate comfort food. I in full conscience ate comfort food. But I also took action to find a solution. I wrote to my ostheopath even if it was Sunday and I explained the situation. I was more than happy to wake up this morning, monday, with her email inviting me for a treatment today ! It completely changed my mindset.
Day 23. Quebec. CD
Right from the beginning of the day I managed to feel I was in control vs food. I had a healthy light breakfast. As a snack after my treatment I took no sugar soya beverage for the proteins because I had to drive my car about 30 minutes and I was exhausted. I was also able to eat a light diner. I cheated a bit with ice milk but it was a choice not a lack of control. Youppi !
Tonight my back doesn’t hurt anymore. Hoping it will stay that way.
Bye bye and thanks to all of you my 5:2 friends wherever you are xxx
@missymay yay!! Next goal…. break that 150 mark!! 🙂
So far I think tues-wed B2B fasters are
Mamacat
Erika45
Bert
Anyone else??
Day 23, Canada, CD
Lost control on my control day, when I arrived home to find homemade pizza,yumm. Wolfed 3 slices before I stopped and got out the veggies and healthy dip I had planned to eat for dinner. So not a total binge, I am learning and changing.
Erika – I’ll join you for a B2B for Tues/Wed. Need to recover from a food filled weekend. Will try for my first liquid only FD tomorrow and see how that goes.
DYKASK -120 flights of stairs, is Frickin amazing!!! How are your knees holding up? You must have muscles popping out everywhere.
Day 19 Ireland fd
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Day 24 FD
On a low, have gained almost a pound but I threw my hands in the air at the weekend and made nothing but bad choices. I was frustrated but I know that’s no excuse. Am going to try harder. Hope all of you are doing well, can barely keep up to date with all the posts
Day 23: Pacific NW USA, 16:8 NFD, vertigo acting up (no other seeming effects but alcohol last night perhaps, HappyMargo??) so I will not be able to catch up on all your news. If I could just read a little at a time throughout the day it would be OK but I have to pace myself at work the same way to vary my head positions and because of that I barely get everything done that needs doing.
In the meantime I’m sure GoldenSun is taking care of herself first and foremost.
Good luck with a big finish for the month everyone! I’ll have a FD tomorrow and again Thurs/Fri.
DAY 24 – Bucks UK – FD
FD went well yesterday – and planing fd to-day – so my first b2b. Have a days walking planned to keep me out of temptations way – but am feeling good.
HappyMargo – thanks for the advice which I shall heed, if I get thru’ to-day and get a decent night’s sleep I will decide in the morning whether to have another fd. A busy day on Weds. so that always helps.
Good luck all. xx
UK day 24 NFD I don’t know if it’s the weather, the fact I’ve got a bit of a cold or something else but I’m not in the right mindset really for fasting – struggled yesterday, which is unusual for a Monday . NFD today but want to try and get in the right mindset for tomorrow and hopefully another FD this week .
HannahWatto – Good to see you back X
HappyMargo – if you do find the secret to weekend indulgence please let me know ,it sure would make life easier.
Forgot to check in last night.
Jan23:Surrey/FD
I’m doing b2b FD today and tomorrow too.
@happymargo totally feeling the same about the weekends. I need to incorporate some exercises and try and avoid binge drinking! I had drunk all my tdee in alcohol on Saturday. ☹️ I just feel so bad as I know it is undoing all the hard work I put into it during the week. Booo…
I’ll be joining you b2bers:
Mamacat
Bert
Erika45
inittothinit
Yirrakurl
I’m having my weigh in on Friday and hoping for some good results. I have been steadily decreasing but nothing like the ‘whoosh’ effect. I will need to calculate the exact quarter of my daily intake for Feb and try and stick to that. I think it is about 400cal…
Will check in later.
Hope you all have a good day. X
Day24 Belfast FD
Apart from my latte ‘blimp’ I had a good fast day and am fasting today.
@at love the driving analogy
@lilymartin. You’re not alone with your problem. I definitely don’t eat what I like and track all I eat on NFDs, and like you, go up and down. Had a great week until last Thursday but over indulged over the weekend and put on most of my January’s loss. I tried my first b2b last week and managed quite well. Not as long as some, but a promising start. I’m doing that now and intend to do b2b2b. Have you tried 16:8? It is quite a good way to control calories and logs of members of this forum use it, including myself, although not all the time.
@missymay I totally sympathise! My scales said 4lbs on Sunday morning but I fasted yesterday, and 3 of those have gone. Don’t lose heart!
@ MamaCat count me in. Fasted yesterday, today, so why not add on tomorrow? This will be my first b2b2b but will stop fasting on Wednesday tea time around 5. That, according to my calculations, will make 68 hours from Sunday @’9pm. I CAN DO THIS! So…
Mammacat
Erika45
Bert
InittoThin
Yirrakuri
Debster
Have a good day
Day 24, NFD, New Zealand. Totally overate during the past 5 days. First time I’ve done that since joining these challenges -apart from Christmas. Feeling kinda icky from eating too many biscuits today. Frustrated with myself and will try better for rest of the month. It’s great to read all your posts. I do miss them when I’m too busy to read them all but there are definite gems in them. Walked 14600 steps today so not all is lost!
@biddiev, @lynzm, @vaderz thank you all for your input. It is much appreciated.
I am definitely going to try to stick with this WOL for a while yet , trying to do the under 500 calories on FDs and only to TDEE on the other 5 days of the week.
But here’s the thing ….. and I have already posted on this a few times but it is my major concern- I guess it is my pedantic brain – if I go over 500 calories on a FD then for me it is NOT a FD.
For me in my journey ,personally, 600 or 700 or 800 calories doesn’t constitute a FD. It is simply a very restricted calorie day but not a FD. So when I do that I don’t call it a FD.
According to fasting principles a la Dr Moseley, a FD is 500 calories or less. ( A Pedantic brain can be such a pain!)
I can’t speak for anyone else and I know others see it differently but I can only speak from my own perspective and my own journey.
So when my chosen FD becomes a non-FD enough times in the month I have to truly wonder whether I am in fact doing 5:2 or simply restricting my calories on a few days in the month.
If in January I have not completed at least 8 successful FDs I can’t really say I am doing 5:2.
If on the NFDs I do not stick to my TDEE I can’t honestly say I am following the principles of 5:2
And that is my problem. That for me is my struggle.I really want to be able to do this as a WOL , as a WOL.
But I have read many posts on sites where people say ‘ when I was doing 5:2 …’ or ‘I did 5:2 for a while’.
For me that would not be a WOL. That is what I have trouble coming to terms with.
I do have the occasional treat and do occasionally go over my TDEE. But again my brain starts to think ‘ Why have you done so much hard work in the past 10 weeks to blow it all in the NFDs?’
I had not planned on being a calorie counter for longer than a month but I find if I do not plug in the figures daily then I am still off track with FDs and also NFDs.
So crunch crunch crunch it still is – numbers by the way, not food.
Just interested to know how long people in this forum have been doing 5:2. Has anyone maintained it for a number of years, 52 weeks a year? Does it become easier? Help !!!!!!!!
Day 24 Portugal FD
Looks like there are a few of us doing b2b fasts today and tomorrow. I will be thinking of you all today. I know I will struggle a bit as I find it is very difficult to have a FD after a few days of eating without thinking. We can do this.
Mammacat
Erika45
Bert
InittoThin
Yirrakuri
Debster
Day 24 – second post
@lilymartin – just a question, have you ever had your RMR (resting metabolic rate) clinically tested? Knowing this can make a difference to how you calculate your TDEE. I know that Dr MM uses 500cal as a measure of an ‘average’ TDEE, but your actual TDEE may be quite different and therefore will affect the real amount of calories you should be taking in and so have a flow on effect with your weight loss goals. It’s just a thought, and of course there may be many other factors that could be contributing to where you are at right now – hormones, thyroid, stress, but I assume that you may have already checked these out with your GP. Stay strong, and be kind to yourself.
Day 24, Australia FD
Day 2 b2b completed! Yay! Feels really good to have accomplished it after a big holiday break, especially with the water only yesterday. Stayed under my 1/4 tdee today, wasn’t up to another water only. Hopefully my holiday kgs are on their way out. 😊
Lilimartin, I like Fuvvie and others have to be really strict too. I have done 4:3 weeks, some water only, and still not lost weight for weeks at a time. It took me 8 months to lose 10 kgs, doing 4:3 most of that time. If I have any bread I don’t seem to lose anything. If I don’t eat enough on nfd’s I don’t lose, if I eat too much on nfd’s I don’t lose. But in saying all that I did lose 10kgs which was my goal. I went on holidays for a month and didn’t limit my carbs and came home 5kgs heavier! Four fd’s in and I have only lost 1.5 kgs! I was hoping it was food in transit or water weight or something else that would quickly leave me. Is all I am saying is that I think I will always have to work very hard at this and sadly I didn’t think I can eat things others seem to and still lose weight. I am trying to stick with more of lchf way of life, and will have to limit other things to special occasions. But being at my goal felt FANTASTIC! And so worth it! Just stick with it and try to work out what you need to do that you can live with. I went seven weeks 4:3 ing and no weight loss and the next week lost 2 kgs. Dr Fung suggests when you get to a plateau to switch up your fasting routine. Funnily that week I lost weight finally I changed my days and only did two days and all of a sudden a loss finally. I hope some of this helps, at least to know that it is worth it! This does work, and better than anything else, it just isn’t as fast for some of us! At least you’re in good company as there are a few of us slow losers! I’m happy for all the quick losers too, but it is hard if you compare your loss to theirs! You are running your own race and as long as you continue you will get there. Good luck. We are here with you.
Day 24…..Florida…..FD
Are you ready to rumble?!?!? All my names are written down and I will carry you with me where ever I go!
So, yesterday the hubby and I had a date day. Such a wonderful day! We do a lot of talking, formulating plans and more. Well, we were or I was talking about my week, falling of the wagon and trying my darnedest to get back on. When he said something that gave me a boost back on to the wagon. I think it might help you all too.
He says, isn’t that the point of this WOL? The point that you can have days or a week of NFD without breaking the bank? So, if for 5 days, you eat and eat and only manage one FD, are you not still technically doing this WOL? A 6:1 at the least? That the maintenance phase right? So, with that thinking are you still not on the wagon? When was your last FD? I responded with what I know was a dumbfounded look on my face….. err, last Monday. Okay, so that wagon that you say fell off, must be right under you still…..
Baby, as I see the point of this WOL, isn’t that your perfect, it’s not that you do each and every FD, eat with in your calories on NFD. It’s that you keep trying, put one foot in front of the other day in and day out. Sure, everyday you must tweet it to make it work but it’s life. It’s an up and down road, when we’re down we just tweet to get it back up again…..
I’m not sure what surprised me the most as I sat there speechless, the fact that the man listens or the fact that he’s right.
So, with that encouragement, I’m standing on the wagon ready to take on a b2b with my fellow pocket pals.
Attention……. Forward March!
Cheers!
Day 24 – Canada – CD
Down half a pound this morning so I am now back to where I was 10 days ago. This is surely an up-and-down journey but the important thing is we stick with it through thick and thin. We can’t deny that food is an addiction. Take heart from all the great advice in these posts and as @bert1802 says, “get back on the wagon”. That’s what it’s all about.
Today I plan to log all my food on MFP and stay within my limit.
@fuvvie. You mentioned Lolly and Buttonboots being incredibly inspiring. Where can we find their posts? We can all use a little inspiration at sometime during the day.
Day 24 NSW Aust – NFD
@mamacat, @coda, @inittowinit @at, @lilymartin, @back2thefuture, @fuvvie, @bert1802, @happymango THANK YOU for the well wishes and advice. Good news first, I’m down 3.5kgs for the month although it does go up and down a little by 500 – 700grams but its still less than i was at the beginning of the month
– so all good.
As for the bank they are still investigating, although a loss of this kind is both upsetting and frustrating i think i would handle it better if it was someone i didn’t know because that’s what one would expect. In this instance we know it was a family member, they went into a branch and somehow gained.access. As the days go by i have little faith that the bank will come through with a positive outcome. Fingers crossed.
Dad is fine however i won’t be taking him shoe shopping any time soon 🙂
@august2024 sending you some southern warmth as we are sweltering down under.
This is one aspect of my life that is some what in control so i guess that’s why I’m still focused – well until 3pm on FDs then i need coffee 🙂 I also want to be around for my kids for many years to come.
A good week to you all.
Day 24 USA (Illinois) – FD
Interesting discussion about how we seem to follow our WOL and still don’t lose.
lilymartin – I empathize so much about how staying with TDEE doesn’t seem to be doing the trick. Maintenance is supposed to be just that, isn’t it? Even when pretty strict with calories, my body still gains a couple pounds. So I am back to a FD just to stay at my 160# (where I want to stay). In a way it is frustrating, but maybe I just have to get used to how much I CAN eat isn’t what I WANT to eat.
Lynz – good explanation of all of this. I appreciated your insights.
Arvandee – who do you go to (or how) do we check RMR? I haven’t seen anything about that other than doing this website’s chart to check TDEE and BMI calculators.
Even with various plateaus during the last 10 months, I was able to lose over 30 pounds on this WOL where nothing else had worked for me before. YEAH for The Fast Diet and all of you here. This forum has made such a difference for me.
Fuvvie – I’m with you about eliminating carbs and whites, except for occasional treats for me. (But even brown sugar is out!) What is it about those potatoes, rice, bread, and sugar that are such bombs?!
Hugs to you all.
Day 24 Canada NFD
Thanks everyone. Your posts are helping me staying focussed and grounded. NOt much to add on my part except that I am pleased that I have met the commitment to myself to post here daily. I am successful at that, and the good news is that my first 3+ weeks on this plan are positive.
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