Day 5, USA — FD
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Funny Stevetoontaxidriver, I thought the same thing.
Day 4 in the big brother house (Geordie accent) &
Ann has managed anther FD without too many problems even though she was at work.
Seriously, did not feel too bad when everyone else ate their lunch but dinner did not really fill me.
The hubby is finding it hard though.
Anyway, no FD until next week & friends are up to help us with the garden which is under major reconstruction so we will be really hard & enjoy our food.
I really hope we have lost weight by next week.
Day 5 – Cumbria UK – NFD/CD
Very busy day no time to catch up on the posts but FD has been OK – should end up a controlled day!
Another busy day tomorrow…….
Stay focused and stay strong – This WOL works – less calories in will always equal weight loss……..very important to stay well hydrated……
Namaste
Day 5 – Switzerland – NFD
Today was supposed to be a FD but I’m feeling sort of ‘off’ so I decided on a NFD instead. Hmmm… Feel a lot better tonight, but guess I’ll never know if it was something I staved off or whether I could’ve managed a FD after all.
@fatrabbit – I love the idea of piggy-villages! We tried ours in a covered run in the garden last year – plenty of shade, lots of covered areas with their houses to hide in – and they wedged themselves in under the manger, on top of each other, cussing me under their little piggy breathes the whole time. Will try again before I cut the grass, maybe they will snack on a dandelion leaf or two.
@chumi – great salt charts, but did they factor in all that salmiakki?? 😉
@ciren2 – lots of positive Swiss vibes, I’m not going to let you call yourself a failure, be kind to yourself and if it doesn’t feel right now, take stock of why, give yourself a bit of space and work out a way ((big hug))
@bert1802 – agree on picking up the signals from your body. And on the infinite benefits of unconditional love <3
Day 5 – UK – FD.
Today’s been a struggle, had a headache all day although drank loads of water. It’s started to lift now but I’ll be glad for today to end. I thought this week I’d do AFDs Mon/Weds/ Fri with low cal days Tues and Thurs. I don’t think this is going to work as I’m just permanently, ravenous and yes the dogs food is starting to look appealing (😳).
So tomorrow is a NFD and I’m having my coffee and croissant on the way to work and I’m going to enjoy it. Kudos to those doing b2b or 800 cals max. I’m sticking with 5:2″!
Day 5 – Durham UK – FD (2 of B3B)
Struggled a little tonight as I gave my little one a ham roll for supper – she didn’t eat it all and I had to get it into the bin IMMEDIATELY to resist temptation. Had last of chilli leftovers and a cup of tea and now feeling okay again… a little worried about tomorrow’s FD, as I’m off to London for work and there is usually an extravagant lunch involved. Not sure I’m prepared to explain my not eating to a table full of fellow execs 😕 I may go for the ultimate in will power and order but eat as little as possible. Seems unlikely 😳
Never mind. I will do my best until lunch and take it from there. If I have to do Friday instead, it’s not a disaster.
So grateful for all of you keeping me accountable – and holding each other’s hands when we don’t quite get there.
Stay strong my friends – we got this. 👊💪🤝
2nd post:
One aspect I really appreciate on this forum is the ability to re-read all my posts as a daily journal. I can tap into a successful day & remember the feeling I had. Once I read, that most times the advice & support you give to others, are exactly the words you need to hear yourself. I think that is basically true. So, this forum is a win/win on adapting to this new WOE which leads to a new WOL.
Day 5 MN, USA – NFD or maybe an accidental FD. I had a super skimpy breakfest and skipped lunch cuz I had no time. I wasn’t intending to fast but since it’s 3:30 and I have had only 200 calories, I might as well just finish the day with 500 calories and be done with it. Lol. In the past I would have just started eating. I would have thought “hey, I skipped lunch ,I can eat a ton now”. It’s freeing to know that I don’t have to eat. I can fast and it won’t hurt me. In fact it’s good for me. So….after all of that mental gymnastics…..I’m having a FD!!!
Day 6 / UK / NFD
I am hoping for another little surprise on the scales: FD today was easy mentally and foodwise pretty much on the mark for 500. Tomorrow is my dreaded Thursday: for those not part of the March challenge, we organise a coffee and tea break for the students with super cheap but super delicious doughnuts (among many other things. We tend to get almost 40 attending). I am not normally a snacker, but definitely cannot get past that event. Hopefully it won’t eradicate the signs of progress I have been seeing–both in the scales and in clothes. Tried on the figure-hugging dress I wore for graduation last July. It was rather tight then even despite the stretchy fabric. Tonight, it slipped right on and looked fab!
@minnygirl I love that mindset! I have been struggling a bit with “I have been so good, I get to treat myself now” the past few days. It’s all mind games–I just need to get back to playing by my rules!
Day 6/NFD/Melbourne Australia
@kwozzie Yes, fasting boosted my mood. Hence, my username onahealthyhigh! I felt quite exhilarated, mentally alert and full of beans. I don’t quite get the same effect now but if the black dog (Winston Churchill) descends a fast day and a walk in the countryside are the first things I do. Definitely boosts my serotonin levels.
@dykask and our Finnish friend @chumi. Thank you for the sodium discussion and charts. A brush with high blood pressure and potential medication was the first step towards my life changing diet. Tossed all processed foods, purchased a blood pressure monitor and followed the Deal diet to reduce sodium. Like you @dykask I have increased salt in my diet and it hasn’t impacted my blood pressure. I use iodised salt sparingly. Soils in Victoria where I live are deficient in iodine. At school we were given goitre tablets every Thursday so I’m very aware of the need to monitor my intake of iodine. My mother had a rare condition, high blood pressure was caused by too much potassium. She couldn’t eat leafy greens, brassicas, bananas and many other fruits and vegetables. Life can be unfair she loved cabbage and missed it terribly.
@nahabt glad you are still here. Small steps. And good friends.
Off to the zoo with grandchildren. Hopefully I’ll have time to catch up later. Thank you to all.
Day 6 – Tokyo, Japan – NFD 79.7kg
Ugh, I accidently got 3 teaspoons of sugar in my breakfast. I actually feel a bit jittery. I’m not used to it anymore. It was too sweet but I was hungry and in a hurry. (Not a good combination.)
@onahealthyhigh – Our bodies are very complex and it is amazing the vast differences between people when it comes to diet. It does horrible though for people like your mother that actually have to avoid many fruits and vegetables.
@skinnylove. Congrats on the dress!! I am looking forward to the day when my clothes just slide right on. Soon! Patience!
Day 6 – South Korea – NFD
I woke up this morning being really hungry, so I will eat a nice breakfast in half an hour. Hopefully that will fill me up and satisfies me so I don’t have to battle the ‘ I wanna eat everything!!!’ feeling all day.
My weekly weigh in was this morning. Happy to report I lost 0,4 kg (current weight 92,9) in comparison to last week, eventhough my weight went up after last weekend.
Let’s finish this week strong!
Day 5 NFD St. Louis USA (it is still Day 5 for me in my time zone 🙂
Weight 143.8. Goal for April 139 lb.
I thought I posted earlier today but can’t find my post; reposting so apologizing if it is a duplicate. I did 500 cal Monday and 800 cal on Tuesday. Tomorrow will be another fast day – the last one for me this week. Overall goal is to get down to 136.
@okey-dokey. Thanks again for hosting on keeping it all together for us.
All my best to all of us.
Day 5 – Oceanside CA- NFD
The days blend together for me. A NFD is not much different from a FD except that I enjoy a glass of wine. I have a smaller appetite and am satisfied with small portions. I always eat protein, good fat and vegetable fiber. Missing from my WOE is sugar. Now and then a little taste but not craving it .
Packing up for trip back to PA. It’s rime for the birth of spring in NEPA. No more single digit nights and surprise snow storms. Time for golf, gardening and good hikes in the woods.
But for the next five days beach walks, sunshine and serenity. All CD’s for the next few days. The FDs have set the pace and they are welcome.
I failed yesterday but I am blaming it me been full of cold as it’s just making me hungry, so I will do a FD again today, an easier day at work so let’s see how it goes,I know this can be done as recently I attempted the Cambridge diet and managed 500 cal for a week but I just couldn’t keep up with it I’m going to try and not start eating till later on in the day see if that helps
@steffieagle, “The days blend together for me. A NFD is not much different from a FD except that I enjoy a glass of wine. I have a smaller appetite and am satisfied with small portions.”
You are hitting the nail on the head of my problem! I LOVE my breakfast, banana porridge with a touch of honey and a home-made smoothie on the side. But I can’t have it on FDs, it’s just too rich, and I actively miss it (not my-heart-has-been-ripped-out-missing it, but my heart falls a little when I realise I can’t-and-therefore-won’t have it the next day). If I were to find a way around this, I’d totally forget about 5:2–it would start to be this easy to me, because, as you say, the days would blend together. It would just be a matter of certain meals I’d happen to have on certain days of the week.
Day 6 – UK -NFD
@okeydokey thanks for the link to the Keto flu explanation. It’s exactly how I’ve been feeling over the past few days. I think it’s because I was used to doing 5:2, then decided to up my game this week. So Sunday and Monday under 500 cals, Tuesday under 900 and yesterday under 500 again. I’ve not been sleeping which apparently makes it worse. Yesterday I’decided I can’t cope with such restrictions and I’m going back to what I know – 2 FDs per week with controlled TDEE days the rest of the week. Slow and steady is what my body is telling me it needs. Trouble is we all want quick results and this diet isn’t really for that, it’s a way of life with a steady but slow loss. Patience has never been my strong suit!
@dykask and @onahealthyhigh – you’re right it’s amazing how different our bodies are and how they react to different things. The beauty of this regime is you can adapt it to how it best works for you.
Day 6 Kent, UK NFD
Two fast days this week have gone well but another planned tomorrow, hopefully these will redress the excesses of the last two weeks, fingers crossed.
Sun shining and plenty of exercise planned, dog walk, kettlebells at gym then dance class followed by 90 mins Nordic Walking. I do 23/1 everyday because I find it easier to keep to a set daily routine. On non fast days my liquids include tea with milk and thin soup, non fast days include two courses and bigger protein portion.
Skinny love- sounds like your body is craving calcium, try making natural yogurt and adding berries and nuts. You could even include this on a fast day of 500/800 calories. It’s best to avoid the sweet hit of honey or banana, save it for a weekly treat. Good Luck! I used to be addicted to eating porridge breakfast but gave it up and now don’t even consider it. Apparently it takes 3 weeks to change a habit, can’t remember where I read that, probably on a thread.
Day 6 UK NFD 🌈
Thanks for the comments @johnnyr and @annemarilyn. The scales gotta be defeated eventually. I like the dodgy tile comment, I did check for dodgy flooring.. When I moved the scales they went up, so put firmly back to where they were previously. 😂😂.
Had a good NFD yesterday. Gonna have a bad one today, involving dinner and wine. So until that time doing a bit of a Fast in the AM and the gym. It’s all about balance.
Day 6, Newcastle UK, FD 800cals
I can’t call yesterday an FD as I exceeded calories by 224. I then spent the evening feeling ‘bad’ and was ready to ‘blow it’ but OH, bless him, said don’t do it, you know you’ll feel worse tomorrow. This morning I’m slightly concerned that I’m getting a bit obsessive as it shouldn’t matter that I change an FD to NFD – that’s the flexibility of this. On the other hand, I’m pleased that I stuck in and didn’t give in. So I’ll stick to plan with FDs for today and tomorrow and aim for a more controlled weekend than last weekend.
@okeydokey – sorry to add to your workload on your ever expanding spreadsheet – I’m in awe.
Another beautiful day in the North East of England. I didn’t plan to work today but didn’t get finished yesterday morning’s job and managed to miss a customer all together last week (worrying!). So another 4-5 hours gardening which is welcome exercise and fresh air.
Have a good day one and all. Together we are Stronger. I would not have come this far without the daily accountability.
Day 6 UK FD800
I am starting to feel stronger from the mad bouts of dancing HIIT I have been doing. The virtual hula hooping was an abject failure in March as I hurt myself but including squats into it has given me stronger legs than I have ever had before. That has previously been where my weight was most obvious but my legs are looking much thinner (for me). Even my arms are looking thinner although they have always been strong from lugging bales of hay and feed around. I am surprised there isn’t more loose skin but it seems to be going too. I am now able to control my stomach muscles a bit too. They have been virtually non-existent since my huge third son was born as they stretched so much and were not exactly brilliant going into that pregnancy. They told me he was big enough to be born a month before he was due! And he waited to full term anyway. This was even more worrisome because I had been told the other two were going to be small but they were both over 8 lbs. Sorry rambling off again…
2nd post.
@skinnylove – reading your porridge comments, I think that is why I exceeded yesterday’s calories – I didn’t have my porridge at lunchtime and was hungrier at dinnertime. My porridge recipe is:
40g porridge oats
10g mixed seeds
80g frozen blueberries
pinch of salt
cover in hot water from kettle and stir; microwave for 2 minutes; stir, microwave further minute. Serve with 100g full fat greek yoghurt. Total calories 371. Very filling, slow release energy and the blueberries provide the sweetness. I used to use honey but it’s too sweet now.
Day 6 UK FD. Yesterday’s fast didn’t happen – that I can handle but the way I was getting obsessed over it all day was the most worrying thing , on reflection I wasn’t busy enough and all that time was just spent on thinking what could I eat ? and as many of you know once you start…….I’ve just added it up on MFP And it was an ok NFD but I really dont want to spend days thinking about food, anyway putting it aside and hoping for a better day today
@Strawberriesandcream well done for not getting carried away. That control is a valuable skill to add to your arsenal. I have ended most attempts at losing weight over the last twenty years like that with a sodit binge followed by despair. The mental aspect is of far greater value than those couple of hundred calories. It does look a perfect day for gardening. If only the hutches didn’t need cleaning. At least I will be outside. I just need to avoid falling down one of the numerous borrows the little darlings are digging everywhere.
@lynzm I understand about the happy spot on the floor. I firmly move the scales to the right spot when they start trying to add weight I know shouldn’t be there.
Day 6 – FIN – FD
Onto the next FD! I’m hoping that I today I won’t end up dreaming of all the sweets I’ve saved up for Easter like I did last Monday. Last night I went to the sauna, which might not have been the best idea when sick, but what’s done is done. I’ll have to make sure to drink even more water than usual today to make up for it.
@dykask I can’t be sure, but I believe the declination has something to do with nutritional recommendations (a maximum of 5 grams per day, and even that is over five times more than what scientists believe the body needs each day) and the increasing awareness of the potential risks of too much salt. But as mentioned in the article, there’s still much we don’t know and many things that require more research. Since you’re interested in that particular part, I’ve made a somewhat rough translation (= correcting what Google translator gave me) of the entire segment.
“The connection between salt and blood pressure may be even more complex than previously thought. In the last turn of the decade US researchers conducted an amazing discovery. The salt accumulates under the skin, in the medium of the connective tissue.
Subcutaneous salt reservoirs appear to be similar to the average blood pressure as what abdominal fat storage is to diabetes: both actively participate in the body’s metabolism. Studies led by professor Jens Titzen have found that a lymphatic system grows around the subcutaneous salt and provides a conveying path for it to other parts of the body.
The importance of the subcutaneous salt is still somewhat unclear. As of now, it seems that the more salt gets accumulated, the greater the risk is for the human to develop a high blood pressure.
However, the final certainty will be obtained only in long-term studies. They will monitor whether the amount of subcutaneous salt varies over time and how the possible fluctuation will effect blood pressure or heart diseases.
On the other hand, Titze points out that subcutaneous salt may also participate in the defense of the body. In one study, his team found that when mice had wounds in their skin, high concentrations of salt accumulated around the area of infection.
In order to examine whether this also occurs in people, the researchers developed a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) method that reveals the subcutaneous salinity. They then scanned six patients who had severe bacterial infection in their feet [or legs]. There was a lot more salt in the patients’ legs than in the legs of healthy controls. The body therefore seemed to react to the invading bacteria in that same manner.
If the subcutaneous salt counters bacterial infections, it opens a new angle to the relation between salt and blood pressure.
It is known that when aging, the blood pressure tends to rise. Similarly also the subcutaneous salinity seems to increase. The accumulation of salt may be the body’s ancient way to patch up weaknesses in the skin’s defense system, Titze reckons. The skin’s weaknesses also increase with age. When the immune system is no longer able to prevent the penetration of bacteria into skin lesions, the body may try to “salt” the pathogens harmless.
If this is true, blood pressure rising with age may be a partial side effect of an ancient protection mechanism.”
(Finnish source: Helsingin Sanomat (the article is subscribers-only))
You’re absolutely right about awareness being important. Most of us have become so accustomed to eating salt that our taste nerves are almost numb. It’s almost crazy how many more nuances you start to taste again after turning down the salt consumption for a while.
Thank you for the compliment, I’m very flattered. English is actually my third language.
@okeydokey I absolutely agree – making sure to drink enough is what has helped me eliminate the headaches I used to get on FDs. I also hope you don’t give me too much credit for the article – I simply translated what I read to English to share with all of you. And great advice from your part! I tend to prefer eating fresh vegetables, but I understand it might not be an option for everyone at all times.
@and-exhale Now that you mention it, they definitely seem to have forgotten about salmiakki! To be completely serious (or not) it’s probably missing since it’s ammonium and not sodium chloride.
@onahealthyhigh You’re most welcome, I’m glad to share my findings with you! I also tend to eat iodized salt.
Day 6, London, UK, FD.
‘Drinks’ after work yesterday turned into a mocha at a coffee shop thankfully, so I’m, still on for ‘dry April!!!!’
FD today should be ok as the 1st of a b2b. Appetite is really suppressed this week, so I imagine I’ll be ravenous next week!!!!!
Reading quite a few posts which sound worryingly like low-calorie diets, the beauty of 5:2 is the flexibility, but I’m still aware that sticking to my goal weight TDEE, is getting me used to eating the way I will for the rest of my life, I’m making that a habit now……….practice makes perfect!!! I’m aware that I could manage a faster weight loss simply by not eating, but how would I manage afterwards……………I HAVE to eat at some point!!!! and having stalled my engine (a La – Biggest Loser) I’m likely to burn calories/ fat inefficiently and GAIN!!!!!!
Be careful out there, 5:2/ ADF/ IF works for a reason!!!!!
Good luck everyone!!!!!
Day 7 Oman NFD
Doing 16:8 today. 2 meals over 8 hours.
@okeydokey…thanks for doing the spreadsheet…my starting weight isn’t correct. The goal of losing 2kg is right though!
Day 6 Portugal NFD
Day 5 started as FD but turned into NFD
Can’t get my head in gear this week. Eating too much of the wrong thing and even FD on Monday was difficult. I am not even trying to fast today and tomorrow will not work either as we are taking kids out for a meal – last day of school for Easter break. I really need to get in the zone again. I find I have weeks that are so easy to do 4:3 and other weeks I can bearly do a single day of fasting.
I have missed so many pages of posts and will probably not get time to read them all. Hope everyone is doing well.
day 6 FD Sydney Australia
Today’s FD has been a bit harder than others. Have not felt well. Not sure if anyone else has experienced a bad headache and nausea after a ‘flu vaccination? I had my first ever ‘flu jab yesterday and felt awful today.
Wonder what Michael Mosley says about fast days when one is feeling unwell?
Anyway off to bed soon (I always get to bed early on a FD!) so hopefully better tomorrow.
Good luck everyone. Stay strong – week one almost done!
Day 6 – Melbourne – NFD/CD
Not a FD but no carbs as I try to shift a final 1.5 kg.
Have had quite a few laughs from some posts – Thank You! to those who share their great sense of humour/humor.
@bert1802 – I loved your last post! a great reminder about the long-term sustainability of this WOL – ” in 5:2, we take the diet out of the diet ” Well Said!!!
Day 6 Newcastle UK FD
@annnursekirk that’s all I here in my head when posting DAY 4/ 5/ the narrator for the Big Brother show lol, although I’m sure I can hear the Sunderland accent in his voice,similar but not the same.
All going well with the 5.2 plan exercise around 6pm fasting and none fasting going well felling very focused only into my third week. I am hoping for a good loss this week after I stood still on my last weight check last Sunday.
Keep focused and smile 😁
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