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  • Hi everyone,
    I’m hoping you have some ideas on why I am gaining the
    weight back I’ve lost. I have been doing the diet for 12 weeks and
    had lost about 5 kilos. I haven’t changed what I eat or how I do the
    diet but now I’m gaining back all the weight in 3 weeks!

    I do have hypothyroidism and take medication for it – I wonder if
    something is going on with my thyroid/ metabolism??
    Also, I’ve just had chicken pox, could this have some effect?

    Cheers,
    Louise

    Hi Lulutiger

    That is really hard for you Louise; I sympathise.

    I think this is another one of those posts where people don’t jump in to respond because it is complicated and not really something we could ‘diagnose’ for you.

    However if another person with hypothyroidism reads this they may have had something similar happen to them. I believe my thyroid is underactive and has been for years but have never had medication for it; so again just would not like to even take a guess what might be happening.

    Is it not worth a trip to consult whoever prescribes your medication and discuss what might be the cause with them?

    Lulutiger, if you haven’t had your thyroid numbers checked recently, that would be a good place to start; if your TSH is up and you need more thyroid medication that would be the mystery solved. If you are gaining weight while doing what was causing before, your doctor should be willing to do the test, because weight gain is a (admittedly somewhat non-specific) sign of hypothyroidism.

    If your thyroid turns out not to be the culprit, other people may have additional ideas.

    What happens to the body’s thyroid system hormones differs greatly between those with normal thyroid function and those taking thyroxine medication.

    In normal cases, fasting leads to a decrease in T4 and T3 and it can also affect TSH. TSH also varies throughout the day in a cyclical fashion with a peak near midnight and a trough early afternoon.

    In hypothyroid patients taking levothyroxine, the T4 levels in the blood may well increase above normal as there is reduced conversion in peripheral tissues to T3, the active form of thyroxine. TSH may be drastically reduced because of the elevated T4. This does not happen in subjects with normal thyroid function.

    More research is needed to understand fully the effect of fasting on TSH levels.

    The 5:2 diet appears to be able to trigger changes in T4 and T3 levels.

    If you have had a recent thyroid function test following fasting and had your levothyroxine dose reduced that may well not be the appropriate response by your doctor.

    If you haven’t had any dose change, I wonder if you have reduced your activity due to chickenpox or are somehow taking in more calories than you think you are on non-fasting days.

    Thanks for the responses. I haven’t changed my dosage but I was
    inactive for at least 2 weeks – usually I have an active job and try to exercise 3-4 times a week. I did keep up the fast days and I ate less on the non
    Fast days as I wasn’t exercising, perhaps that was the wrong approach?
    I did take my temperature lately in the mornings and it is low, near 36c.
    I will talk to my doctor when I see him next, unfortunately I only see him
    a few times a year as he is in another state (and I haven’t found another
    suitable thyroid doctor).
    I will persevere with the fast diet (with fingers crossed). I’m hoping the
    weight will come off again – with hypothyroidism you have to keep
    positive! I track my calories every day quite obsessively unfortunately
    so I know I never get near my TDEE.

    Hi Lulutiger

    You haven’t been around for a bit; how is it going for you?

    Hi everyone,

    I have continued the diet since my first post. My weight settled down a bit, not so much fluctuation but still no loss in months…
    I have just returned from seeing my specialist doctor who deals with my various auto immune illnesses including thyroid. He was pleased with my test results which are in the “normal” range- the first time in ever. Perhaps that’s a good reflection of the diet. The test results are: TSH 1.0 (0.5-5), Free T4 11.6 (11-21), T3 3.7 (3.1-6). My medication will remain the same for the next 6 months. I have felt really achy tired for the last couple of months. My b12 levels have dropped by half by are still “in the range”. I was advised to exercise more to try and shift weight…

    Louise

    Hey Louise! Well the news could have been better, but it’s not bad at all is it? It’s a shame the weight still isn’t shifting, but if your tests are looking up you know at least it’s working.

    I really hope it starts going soon, you’ve certainly been working at it hard enough! Sending you love!

    Merry Christmas

    Hi!

    I just posted another version of this in another thread, so I will edit and repost some of the information here:

    I just started the Fast Diet last Friday. It’s been one week and I have lost 5.5 kg (total). I fast Monday-Wednesday-Friday with no calorie intake on my fast days. I have fasted in the past and I can do this. My body only starts to complain after about 48 hours, so 36 is not really a problem.

    I take iodine and selenium supplements, but I don’t take vitamins. I take 100 µg of Potassium Iodide in the morning and a commerical selenium tablet at night.

    Why?

    Because I was suffering from chronic depression and I’d been having concentration problems over a longer period of time. Plus, during the spring and summer I’d been exercising regularly, walking up 30-50 km per week (19-31 miles) and just exercise and sensible eating wasn’t contributing to significant weight loss. I was doing up to 160 push-ups against park benches, and becoming none the happier, slimmer or more “with it”. The only positive thing that happened was I had more endurance and lower blood pressure. But I was still fat, still dull-witted, and still pretty much unhappy.

    So, a friend lent me her copy of “Attacking Anxiety & Depression” from Lucinda Bassett, and one of the first things they recommended was to get one’s thyroid tested, which I did.

    It was within the “normal” range. According to my TSH levels, (2.8) I was with normal levels.

    Then I began to wonder what hypothyroidism could possibly have to do with depression, anxiety and possibly weight retention.

    So I googled it, and I found this video on YouTube:
    http://youtu.be/JY933qdOF_o

    I asked my physician that despite my normal thyroid levels, if it would be alright to take iodine supplements. He said that I could try, and to inform him if there were any negative results.

    After a couple weeks, I noticed my depression was not so severe. It sort of “weaned” off. I wasn’t full of so much self-doubt.

    The negative side was despite my weight level of being down to a BMI of 33.0 at the start of summer, I was hungry all the time. Plus, I slacked off on exercise. The result was gaining weight and having my BMI go back up to 36.4 over a five month period of time.

    No wonder, I suppose. If you are going to stimulate your system, but fail to follow that stimulation, then you will most likely suffer the consequences.

    Now, I am noticing that with the Fast Diet, I can go from BMI 36.4 to BMI 34.9 in one week.

    Before my doctor suspected I might be going into menopause, but now he’s not so sure, because:

    – my hair loss has slowed down
    – some of my wrinkles are not so visible
    – my skin isn’t as dry as it used to be
    – my periods are not so “heavy”
    – my depression has pretty much faded
    – my concentration and ability to remember things has significantly increased
    – my weight can sink significantly if I stick to a diet and exercise
    – it can also increase just as fast if I don’t stick a diet and exercise!!
    – I don’t feel so tired
    – moderate exercise is no longer the equivalent of “drudgery”.
    – I don’t have the usual fall/winter joint aches and pains
    – I’m not cold all the time

    I have NO IDEA if a combination of iodine/selenium supplements and intermittant fasting can actually help postpone menopause or reverse aging effects. I haven’t found any conclusive information on this at all.

    Just in case my bathroom scale was playing a joke on me, I took my measurements too, and found out that I had lost 2 cm pretty much everywhere on my body, including my neck, bicep, thigh, calf, belly, breast, waist and hips. Even if the bathroom scale is unreliable, how can the tape measure also be unreliable?

    The only facts of note are: the average European and North American do not receive enough iodine even in an exemplary healthy diat, due to soil depletion during the last Ice Age, and iodine is essential for a properly functioning metabolism.

    Thanks for that information, Weissdorn, I too have hypothyroidism and you have given me a lot to think about.

    Lulutiger, well done on sticking with it, I sympathise with the exasperation which must surely ensue when your body seems to be thwarting every attempt you make to get it healthy (been there, got the T-shirt) and I wish you all the best if you decide to go down the exercise route.

    Happy Holidays to you, Aud x

    Thanks for the info.
    I have a friend o/s who swears by iodine supplements and has lost a lot of weight using them. I was worried that there might be some dangerous side effects with taking high dosages.
    I do take a multi-vitamin that has 320mcg potassium iodide in it. Because I’ve been feeling so tired lately I’ve just started taking 2 tablets a day to see if they will be any positive effects…
    Do you know if you can take thyroid meds and iodine supplements or would that be too much?

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