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  • I posted a topic about breaking the plateau and Michael Mosley answered by reminding me that the Australian Prescribers Guide recommended taking thyroxine an hour before breakfast. I can’t remember anyone every telling me this. I’ve been taking thyroxine for 21 years and always took it with my breakfast. Anyone take it an hour before food as Michael suggested ?

    Hi-I have been on this med along with Cytomel (t-3) for about 8 years with no change in dosing. My pharmacist told me to take it on an empty stomach-30 to 60 minutes prior to eating or drinking anything other than water. I usually take it early in the morning and go back to bed for awhile. If I’m feeling ambitious I work out while I’m waiting to have my coffee. You should talk to your doctor before changing the way you take yours, though. They might want to recheck your levels after the change to make sure you are not absorbing more med than you need. I see from your other posts that you have had great success with this program-congratulations. I have tried many “diets” with no result since my thyroid problem was diagnosed. I’ve just finished my first two fast days and am hoping this program will work for me.

    Thanks williesmom it was good to get your reply, I had just said to my husband I should see my dr and talk about this. I think from what Michael said maybe I shouldn’t have had my blood test for TSH after my second fast day before I broke my fast… I never thought about that. It seems my memory of what I was told 21 years ago is a bit hazy and as my levels were consistent I’ve never checked the advice. I’ve started taking my meds 60 minutes before I eat for the last 2 days and will continue.

    Yes I have lost 22 lbs on 5:2 but my weight loss slowed down 2 months ago when I changed my meds because my TSH had dropped to .02 and my doctor adviced me to drop 25 mg off my medication. I just thought I’d hit the dreaded plateau…silly me.
    Still I haven,t put on weight.

    I was diagnosed with Graves Disease in 1992 and had a partial thyroidectomy in 1993. I now take thyroxine daily.

    I also was not told to take thyroxine on an empty stomach. When conducting research about my condition, I found out. According to some material I’ve read, the absorption of thyroxine can be impaired if you take it with food. Also, taking it with supplements containing iron can also interfere with absorption unless you leave 1-2 hours between taking the thyroxine and the iron supplement (or food such as cereal that has been fortified with iron).

    Please do verify this with your own research. This is what I remember from years ago!

    I started taking thyroxine in January… everything I have read says take it with a glass of water on an empty stomach and don’t eat or drink anything else for at least 30 minutes. Absorption is affected by anything else in the stomach and is particularly affected by iron and calcium so don’t take any supplements at the same time. I almost never have breakfast and (so far) have no problems relating to not eating for up to 6 hours afterwards or even longer on a fast day, on fast days I may only have water right until evening.

    THANKYOU to all who answered this. Yesterday I went to see my doctor of 30 years and yes Michael and all you helpful people were right, I should have been taking it 30 to 60 minutes before breakfast. We both can’t believe I’ve never asked and he didn’t check I knew. Anyway 2 weeks ago when Michael wrote on the forum to alert me I started taking it 60 minutes before breakfast and yes this week I had lost 2.2 lbs in a week after my second fast day.

    I’m on 75mcg Levothyroxine and the pharmacist told me to take it on an empty stomach and breakfast up to 30 mins to 1 hour later. My GP never mentioned this though. I was also told by the pharmacist not to take my Lansaprozole (for acid reflux) with the Levothyroxine as it stops it working so efficiently. Again my GP never mentioned this as I had always taken them together.

    I take thyroxine just before going to bed because evidence from clinical trials shows a better uptake of thyroxine when taken in the evening vs a morning dose.

    I am not sure what clinical evidence the recommendation to take thyroxine in the morning is based on.

    See;

    Effects of evening vs morning thyroxine ingestion on serum thyroid hormone profiles in hypothyroid patients. Bolk N, Visser TJ, Kalsbeek A, van Domburg RT, Berghout A. Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 2007 Jan;66(1):43-8. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17201800

    This concludes;

    “l-thyroxine taken at bedtime by patients with primary hypothyroidism is associated with higher thyroid hormone concentrations and lower TSH concentrations compared to the same l-thyroxine dose taken in the morning. At the same time, the circadian TSH rhythm stays intact. Our findings are best explained by a better gastrointestinal uptake of l-thyroxine during the night.”

    A more recent and larger study shows similar results;

    Effects of evening vs morning levothyroxine intake: a randomized double-blind crossover trial. Bolk N, Visser TJ, Nijman J, Jongste IJ, Tijssen JG, Berghout A. Arch Intern Med. 2010 Dec 13;170(22):1996-2003. doi: 10.1001/archinternmed.2010.436. – http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=776486

    “Levothyroxine taken at bedtime significantly improved thyroid hormone levels. Quality-of-life variables and plasma lipid levels showed no significant changes with bedtime vs morning intake. Clinicians should consider prescribing levothyroxine intake at bedtime.”

    Sarah

    Good grief. Thanks for this post! I’ve just realised I might have been taking my thyroid medication the wrong way for years. In the past I’ve just necked it down with a cuppa tea (breakfast? what breakfast?!) and then out the door. Now that I’m actually eating real food in the mornings, lol, I will have to alter my habits.
    I’m going to try taking it at night and see how I go. I have to get up at 6am as it is… I’m not sure I can cope with earlier, lol…

    Aud x (First fastday today, a looooong way to go)

    Wow. This is amazing information. I was told by my doctor to take my Thyroxine one hour before or after food and two hours before any other medication, even vitamin pills. He did say it didn’t matter if I took it at night or in the morning as long as I am consistent. I take it in the morning as I forget to take things at night due to tiredness. I am about to start this plan. Hope I have better luck than other diets.

    Too bad – I’m taking Statins and Ezitimib at night which interfered with Thyroxine as fas as I know…so I need to stick with the morning dosage.

    Q

    I went to see an endocrinologist who specialises in thyroid problems last week, and he told me to take thyroxine at least 30 minutes before breakfast, and not to take it together with other vitamin supplements as they can have an effect on its efficacy, in particular iron and calcium. I told him i only take Vitamin D and he said to take that any other time of the day but not with my thyroxine.

    I have been taking thyroxin for years and the only instruction I had was to take it first thing in the morning. I have done this – even checking on the leaflet in the box which says the same. A friend mentioned about taking it at night so I thought I would check on-line and lo and behold – up opens the can of worms!!!!Not only should I wait before eating, I should also not have had coffee. I had already picked up on the not having other medication(just by chance over the years!!)but my regular coffee fix is the first thing I do in the mornings and my thyroxin is taken whilst awaiting the kettle to boil!! I am now going to take my thyroxin at night thus avoiding food and drink!!! I have been 5:2ing since the beginning of 2013 and lost over 5in on my waist plus over 2in bust and hip. Most of this in the first 6 months but the BEST EVER news is that my mind set has changed completely. I have suffered with depression most of my life (64years) but NO MORE!!! I just cannot explain to people how wonderful it is. THANK YOU 5:2.

    good postings. Have been taking levo for 25 yrs always in the morning, but find the hour to wait a pain during the working week. Wondering how the change to night times meds has worked for you getupandgo. and heh me too getting rid of the grey fug is marvellous, had some positive energetic days and thinking wow this is how most people enjoy their days!!!!

    So any advice from anyone on taking levo at night would be greatly appreciated. thanks Wendy

    Hi double happy – I’ve only just been diagnosed and I take it in the morning but have the pill by my bed with some water. I wake at any time from 4am but don’t like to get up before 6am; consequently, I take it when I wake up and then doze. This means I can have breakfast as soon as I’m up 🙂
    Jane

    thanks Jane, you have found a good solution. For me I snore soundly until the alarm at 6!!!! sometimes in the early hours I vaguely feel the cat walking over me hoping for some attention–but she doesnt rouse me enough into any kind of action. The morning routine had worked for me but following a long bout of chest infections and too many antibiotics went to a herbalist who has got me on some potions that need to be taken 2 hours after my thyroxine and before food. I need to be out the door by 7:30–so I now have issues.
    There seems to be a body of evidence to indicate night dose is ok–have just forked out $44 for my docs visit last week, so I’m hoping here for some cheap advice!!

    Hello double happy, I have gone back to mornings as found I was getting hyper, also have not been well, cannot say if the night taking was the cause but wanted to get myself stabilised. The doctor has me ‘labelled’ now as having anxiety, which is annoying as it will colour any future visits. The feeling that all is not right came 2 months back so should not really have added the pill change at this time. According to blood test my thyroxin dose is ok. Everyone is different so I think it is down to the individual.
    I am increasing exercise, I have a FitBit which is great for guiding me on just how little in the way of calories I burn compared to what I eat on ‘normal’ days!!!!!!! I think the ‘just eat less’ rule is the answer!!!!!
    Remember, there is no such thing as a ‘normal’ life – there is just life – so enjoy it!

    Hi double happy and getupandgo2 🙂
    Things sound complicated DH for sorting out the pill taking! Is the 2 hours after thyroxine a really strict time? If not, I’d been inclined to take the thyroxine as I got into bed (assuming the stomach was empty) and then the other ‘potions’ as soon as I got up. I can’t see what other regime you could try without setting an alarm in the middle of the night! Let us know what you decide and how it affects you – hopefully not. Good luck!

    thanks janeface–the last thing we need are early morning complications for sure. have tried 2 nights so far and feel fine. cat purring in my ear at 4am– I’m thinking spooky, had she read this thread and is now on a mission (my alarm in the middle of the night !
    I love this forum site because whatever our issues there is a wealth of experience and support. Amazing how many of us have thyroid issues and of course that can make for a weighty problem–but we seem to be on a winner with this fast diet. I have plateaued but lost 5 kg over 4 months so am not despondent

    Hi Double Happy – I’m glad your cat seems to be on your side now 🙂
    This might be interesting for you as it shows positive results for pills taken at night but I expect you might have already read it:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139142/ and this is a more general page but still interesting:

    http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm

    5kg is brilliant and plateaux are usual, so I’m glad you have no worries about that. Take care. Jane

    thanks Jane I will definitely read those articles–knowledge is power. I hope your pathway will be the same as mine–low dose for 23 years. I am grateful that it is so stable.
    It will be interesting to see how weight loss effects the thyroid levels.
    I am just astounded so many people have malfunctioning thyroid I guess there was the same level of incidence in the ‘olden days’ but it was maybe diagnosed as… or people just lived in the fug and put on weight.
    thanks for your sites

    Hi there

    I’ve only been on Thyroxine for about 4 years, but have started taking it about an hour before breakfast. I keep it by my bedside and take it when the alarm goes off about an hour before I actually get up (it takes me a long time to wake up!). Actually, I haven’t noticed much difference, but it is true that food can interfere with the effects of Thyroxine so it is recommended that it be taken well before food.

    Hi there

    I am on 75mcg thyroxine for under active thyroid and on the 5.2 diet ,I have my 500 cals at dinner time around 5/6 pm and not sure if I should I take the med a half hour to an hour before as people are saying they take it before breakfast, does the same apply if you have your cals at dinner time rather than breakfast
    Any suggestions ??

    My prescription instructions say to take the thyroxine on an empty stomach, and doesn’t mention eating afterwards. Check with your doctor, but I think you take it at the same time every day — whether or not you eat right away. I do know I am to wait 1/2 hour after taking it to eat.

    Hi Catherine – the packets usually say take 30mins-1hour before eating in the morning (ie before breakfast).
    There is some evidence that it’s ok to take at night. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139142/
    and a more general page:
    http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm
    I take mine one hour before breakfast.
    Best wishes
    Jane

    Good to see this topic back on the table. Had been meaning to check in re the effect of taking the tabs at night. Have trialed it for 6 weeks and feeling fine–in fact more energy. The other positive is that to have an empty tummy I usually have early dinner 6-7 and then there’s no snacking happening, even on non fast days,–so have cut out those sneaky evening nibbles.
    Take my tab around 10:30–11. a few nights have had dinner later so either set the alarm or take it when I wake up in the small hours for that inevitable visit.

    A real key seems to be to have an empty tummy on either side of taking it–something about the medication going straight to the duodenum and passing through the stomach as quickly and whole as possible.

    i still marvel at my weight loss of 7 kg (since August) never thought it would be possible having tried so many other diets.

    So glad to hear taking the tab night-time is working, Double Happy!!
    Jane

    I usually take mine at night, around 8pm. It has helped me to have a little more energy and it helps me to remember to take it. I also read that you shouldn’t take it with coffee or have coffee in an hour either side of taking it as it stops it working. I am not sure why though or the science behind it.

    Thanks Amy C, janeface and double happy for your comments I m now going to take it on an empty stomach an hour before any food.

    I didn’t know about the coffee part. I always drink coffee very soon after taking it. Maybe I will wait until later to see if it helps.

    Hi Folks really interesting thread on thyroxine. since I wake early I usually take it in the morning always with redbush tea and my breakfast is usually at least an hour later. Might try it in the night and see what happens.
    I have to say that after 10 years of losing the same few lbs and putting them on again this is the first time that I have lost weight so quickly (1lb a week so far..usually takes 3 weeks)and it hasn’t driven me mad with deprivation! I am also checking body fat and muscle and so far 2.4lbs fat and .6lbs of muscle so am more hopful about those size 10 summer clothes!

    Hello Amy – I’ve just been reading a bit about the coffee issue and I could only find the one study although lots of other pages referring to it. To be safe, it’s probably best to take the pill with water and have a coffee an hour later. This is what I do. The study didn’t test decaff or tea or other drinks.
    Hi Jenny – excellent to hear you’re losing weight – be confident you’ll be shopping for those summer clothes soon!
    Jane

    I’ve been taking Levothyroxine since June (after a total thyroidectomy) and I’ve always been told to take it at night.

    Washington Hospital Center (USA) and Georgetown University are currently studying the effects of taking coffee with thyroxine to try to get a clearer answer. Details at http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01707056

    Sarah

    I’ve been interested in reading all your posts on this topic, and to see how many of you are concerned about how the timing of your medication, and what you take it with, might affect its effectiveness. I have been taking levothyroxine for over 20 years, with my morning tea and at the same time as a few other medications. I have regular thyroid function tests and over the years my dose has been adjusted once or twice to ensure my results are within a normal range. My question is this: if the thyroid function tests show a normal range, does this not mean that the results are taking into account the timing of the dose and what else I take with it as well as the amount I’ve been prescribed? If I were to try adjusting my timetable would I not end up over- or under-treating the hypothyroidism? I’m wondering about what has prompted people’s concern if the regular tests I assume most people are require to have are coming back normal?

    Really interested in the articles about taking thyroxine before bed. Have been feeling really foggy in my brain recently but have been told that I am taking the correct amount of thyroxine 50 micro grams daily. If I decide to take thyroxine before bed, surely I won’t have an empty stomach?

    I was told to eat an hour before a meal or four hours after to have an empty stomach.

    Lizboyd and AmyC as I said on march 8th post I have been taking it at night and have made it a manageable routine, in fact has made me regulate the after dinner nibbling that used to happen, so have dinner between 6 and 7–then only a cup of tea before bed and taking my meds at 10 or 11. Last night went out for dinner and finished eating around 8:30–but knowing that I had my meds to take I had quite a light dinner and no desert so took the tab at 11:30, and I figure the one or two off occasions are not a biggy.
    what I have learnt from this WOL is that everything can be managed–surprise dinners on fast days, vacations,forgetting its a fast day and have bubbles, times of sustained feasting like Christmas and weddings–my big picture now is that all eating can be managed including timing for meds.

    I’ve been asked to take it on an empty stomach-so first thing in the morning 15 minutes before the first cup of tea-also easier to remember to take this first thing in the morning, before other chores take over and one tends to forget

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