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  • Congratulations Neil on the fundraising fantastic work.

    Lindsay, I can’t even begin to imagine the stress of what you are going through. Lawyers have perfected the art of dragging things out as long as possible, less money for them if cases are settled quickly. And to put yourself and OH through those horrible questions from the psychiatrist, which I assume is an attempt to discredit you or find something to use against you. Just shocking beyond words. I do home these resolves for you both very soon and you can put the legal battle behind you.

    I think when we are under pressure and stress, we become super sensitive to things that normally wouldn’t bother us. I know I felt this way when Mr GDay passed, every little thing bothered me, whether it was something that directly impacted on me or not.

    When I was speaking to the lawyer with OH’s will when it was contested, the lawyer told me that the law was there to be ‘fair and equitable’ to everyone and I just laughed at his face and asked him if he seriously believed that – he downcast his eyes and didn’t respond.

    Day 3 completed with no dairy, and I can’t say I feel any different other than I’m really, really missing dairy. But will persevere and try to complete 2 weeks. I will attempt to make homemade mayo in a moment so I can spread that on my homemade bread as a substitute for butter, cheese etc as well as mixing with mashed boiled egg as a spread. My homemade mayo attempts in the past haven’t always been successful; I struggle getting the emulsification process to work properly so fingers crossed for success this time around.

    Quacka don’t be disappointed with your results, there will be weeks with a loss, a gain and sometimes no change at all and that is the nature of how the human body works but as long as your trend is heading downwards over a period time then all is good.

    I think Dr Clare and her son Dr Jack are doing brilliantly at continuing the work of Dr MM. I follow them both on Instagram and am really impressed with them both for providing down-to-earth advice around good health and wellbeing.

    Thin, it is so sad to see the UPF’s and drinks people are consuming. Unfortunately, governments around the world have a severe lack of political will to stand up to the UPF companies and enforce proper food labelling laws that make it blatantly clear what the product is and the negative effects it has on the human body, and mind for that matter. I know we’ve had this discussion before and yes there is an element of personal responsibility but the circumstances of so many people doesn’t afford to give them the knowledge or understanding to make the right food choices. They believe what is on the label because they honestly don’t know any different, UPF is all they know.

    Mmmm…..worried about LJoyce, it’s been so long since we’ve seen a post from her I do hope all is okay.

    Hello everyone,
    Ooh so much news, and I am out of coffee!

    When I wrote last, electricians were here, and now I have a new range hood, a lovely kitchen light replacing the rickety fluorescent one, light switches that no longer crackle, and a new power box with all safety switches. (But I did find that amusing myself without electricity for 90 minutes was harder than I expected!)

    And haha, Thin, you were right to pick me up on my ‘sort of fasting’ really I am working on keeping to my 4 tiny meals which is so hard now I know I don’t get painful consequences if I slip up. And I really need some fast days to balance out the slip ups… but on the way (omg this is embarrassing) I argued to myself that trying to eat properly is almost fasting. (I am very good at fooling myself). Well, I have said it now, I can’t hide.

    But I was barracking for you Quacka! And woot! Aren’t you doing well! Yay for the 74’s!

    Neil, hooray for your fundraising! I did contribute (Joy).
    And hooray that your roller coaster is gradually heading to your healthy weight.

    Thin, I can relate to that awful feeling of overeating. I always was a binge eater and it always felt terrible. But there is something different now after my stomach got used to never being very full. And hooray it is a deterrent.

    As someone who was overweight and with eating issues all my life, it is fascinating to see the different journey of people who never had an issue and are now getting rounder and rounder. Good luck to your uni friend, I do hope 5:2 suits her.

    Congratulations on your big Perth sort out.
    Welcome back to your wonderful life on the water. I hope it is a lovely Spring.

    Gday, hooray to see you posting, sorry you have to do back up steps each time, but it is so good to have you here.
    Lovely to hear about your wonderful time at The Fringe, and hooray for delicious icecream.
    Good luck with the non dairy fortnight. It will be a win win, whether you find that ‘no dairy’ gets rid of those symptoms, or you find that you can eat dairy knowing it doesn’t cause those symptoms.
    Good luck with the mayo!

    Anzac hooray!
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    I hope you found some great office clothes and get some really lovely people to work with.

    Lindsay, I am so sorry that you and Mr Lindsay have had to face the legal drama after the dreadful initial incident. It is so cruel and so bad for your health.
    Hold on to that truth, and I know you will be doing everything you can to keep as healthy and balanced as possible. I hope it is over soon and that then you can recover well.

    Thank you so much for letting us know what is happening.
    I was thinking of you when your island was buffeted by Alfred.

    Well I need to go shopping for coffee. Sending best wishes to everyone.
    Ciao

    Woo hoo mayo success – I’m so happy. I’ve also made a batch of cashew nut cheese and avocado chilli dip, although the dip is actually a Jamie Oliver salad dressing recipe that I adapted many years ago to make it my own. As all 3 contain apple cider vinegar they will all last in the fridge for many weeks.

    Hi everyone,
    Just wanted to tell you I tried to find LJoyce’s email address, I had it years ago, but I have lost it with new computers and my own new email I am sorry to say.

    Cinque you must have been reading my mind as I had a feeling one of us had LJoyces email and I was going to ask, thank you for looking.

    Still no change with the sinuses. However happy to report in the last few weeks a downward trend on all the weight management markers I track. Also noticed some snug outfits are not so snug at the moment which is pleasing.

    I’ve been very lax on the exercise front since returning from Adelaide as struggling to find the energy. A week of very late nights coupled with a reduction in the number of hours sleep per night during the fringe has sent my body out of whack big time. I’ve been struggling to fall asleep most nights, my brain won’t stop thinking. Last night, or this morning rather, I was still wide awake at 4am and up at 6.30am so I feel like a zombie today. It’s been a few weeks now so I think I may have to take a melatonin tablet each night for a few weeks to hopefully kick start my normal sleep pattern back into action.

    Daylight savings finishes this weekend and that always plays havoc with my sleep patterns for a few weeks. I’m looking forward to getting the early sunrises and early sunsets back over the coming months. Hopefully this, along with melatonin for a few weeks will get me back into my normal pattern of 8 hours sleep per night.

    Good Morning everyone

    Just a quick post as I have 110 boxes of stock to process today!

    It’s my Tuesday FD today. I couldn’t fast yesterday so today it is. It’s almost lunch time and I’m feeling pretty good. Keeping super busy always helps me.

    Lindsay, you have more shoes than me! I have mine all stored in one of those big cube bookcases. It fits nicely into a wardrobe in one of the spare rooms but the cubes are the wrong size for shoes so they are tripled and quadruple up in each cube. I probably have about 30 pairs but I admit I only wear a few of them. I have somehow accumulated a lot of shoes in my time working in the shoe biz even though I give plenty away. Time for a clean out soon.

    G’day, I hope you can sort out the sinus issue. If you do have to stay off dairy and you don’t mind eating soy, make sure you give the Soy fetta a try. I don’t know what brands are out there but I have tried it in a vegan buddha bowl before and it was really good.

    Better go, the next truck is due at lunch time and who knows how many cartons (if any) he will have on for me today. Chat soon xx

    Good morning

    I’m on B2B fast days today. Yesterday went well and I got through it quite smoothly. Had a lovely home made miso soup last night with the qetoe noodles, veggies, prawns and fish balls. Yes, fish balls! lol
    Total calories for the day were 358. Check in tomorrow with weight.

    Have a great day everyone! Mine is going to be busy again, yay!

    Cinque, is your email address from May of 2019 still current? That’s the only one I can find.

    Evening all

    Weigh in today I was back up 300g. So the rollercoaster rolls on.

    Cinque, thank you so much for your donation. I thought the donation was from my workmate’s wife Joy. I told him to thank her on my behalf, he looked puzzled and told me he didn’t think it was her because she was “morally opposed to charity”

    My goal for this coming week is to premake all my lunches so it’s easier to track. I just made a batch of chicken, vegetable and lentil casserole that should last me 4 lunches, I also made some overnight oats with greek yoghurt, stewed apple, cinnamon, nutmeg, and a tablespoon of everything butter (a peanut butter that’s a mix of peanut, almond, hemp seed, seseame seeds, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, chia seeds and flax seeds) so I have 2 of my meals for tomorrow logged already.

    Quacka well done on the fasts, I’m sure you’ll smash the weigh-in out of the park

    Gday, snap on the sleep. I’ve been getting only around 4 hours sleep, waking up at 2am and dozing off and on until my alarm goes off. I’ve tried to cut my coffee consumption right back because that had been creeping up and I’m sitting at 9 days without coffee, perhaps the withdrawl is what’s keeping me up.

    Hopefully Ljoyce will show up soon to let us know she’s fine.

    Habe a great one everyone.

    I checked on the date of LJ’s last post and it was Christmas Eve. I can send her an email to let her know that she’s missed here.

    Quacka, that’s also probably more shoes than I’ve owned in my entire adult life! Still curious how you label them though.

    I spoke to LJ on FT a couple weeks ago and had a text conversation with her last week. She’s just been busy, and like me, it takes her a while to catch up on pages of older posts. I’ll give her a nudge. I’ll get caught up here again too. I do enjoy keeping. In touch with everyone here. It’s just difficult with caregiving here these days.

    Thin, is your email address the same as way back when? I get so much junk email these days that I do most things with texting or FaceTime.

    Hi friends

    I started the new job on Tuesday (yes April fools day lol) and everyone is so so lovely. The commute is awful but it’s only 2 days per week. I’m so happy that I was easily able to start WFH immediately

    They talk almost exclusively in acronyms and having zero superannuation experience I am massively confused but hopefully time will heal that

    I hadn’t weighed myself for a while and was horrified this morning to see how much it had crept up. Back on the horse

    I’m on the train (ugh) so will have a catch up over the weekend

    Anzac, congratulations on the new job! So happy that you weren’t off for very long. Commuting only 2 days per week doesn’t sound too bad.

    Good Morning everyone

    73.8kg this morning. I’m pretty happy with that.

    Yesterday’s FD was ok although I was really super hungry by the time dinner came around and I was actually getting hangry! I had a lamb chop and a big plate of veggies so should have been quite satisfied but my tummy decided it was still hungry and spent the evening carrying on. Then it just stopped. Must have got the message that it wasn’t getting any more food, for tonight anyway.

    Anzac, good to hear that you started your new job and yes it will get easier. You will be talking in acronyms and super lingo before you know it!

    Lol thin about the shoes. I never used to have so many but working in the shoe biz has lead me to accumulate many more than I need. I have so many that are not even in my size (not included in that count) but I keep them in hope that I find someone who can wear them. Usually they are good quality/expensive shoes that have a tiny mark or some other minor fault that wouldn’t bother someone if they were given the shoes for free, just people understandably don’t want to pay $200 for a marked shoe.
    I don’t label my shoes as they are not in boxes and I can see them all on the shelves. All my shoes are kept loose as it is better for the longevity of the shoes, allowing air to circulate and the shoes to dry out properly after wearing them – it helps stop mildew on the shoes too. I also make sure I open the windows to that room often to get fresh air and sunshine in.

    Hi Cali, it’s good to hear from you and also good to hear LJ is ok too

    Neil, that’s a great approach to prepare meals in advance. I only track my food on FD’s and am usually really strict about it, weighing everything and logging it. It’s harder when it’s a mixed in food (like soup or stew) but I still try.
    That everything butter sounds good. I have most of those seeds at home and been trying to find something different to make with them. I usually make a keto cracker which are yummy but last time I made them we didn’t eat them all and I hate food waste so I will have a break from them for a while. I made a granola last week, my first time trying that. It turned out really well but I’m not sure it’s something I would eat all the time. It’s very high in calories with the honey and the coconut oil, and then also all the seeds and oats. It is yummy with yoghurt though.
    I hope you your food tracking helps to get your weight heading down again. Keep your chin up and keep going. You know this works!

    G’day, how good is homemade mayo! I was making it when I was doing keto and it is delicious. I haven’t made any for a while, mainly because I don’t really eat that much of it but also because eggs are so expensive. I’ve heard mayo can also be made with aquafaba (chick pea water) but I have never tried it. Apparently aquafaba has so many amazing uses that I would never have thought would actually work. One day I will try some…..

    Well I better start work. I got through most of my 110 carton plus the extra 30 that were delivered afterwards. I have 4 left for today.
    Oh I went to a new class at the gym this morning. It was a strength progression class and this was focused on the upper body. Oh joy. My poor triceps are hurting already and are probably only just starting to cool down. Lucky I’m posting today because I may not be able to lift my arms tomorrow!!

    Have a great weekend everyone xx

    Morning all

    Cali, Good to hear Ljoyce is ok, just busy. I really hoped it wasn’t like the situation with Penguin a couple of years back.

    Quacka, A local NZ company “Fix and Fogg” make the everything butter,

    https://fixandfogg.co.nz/products/everything-butter

    they have some really nice products including smoke and fire, which is a peanut butter mixed with chilli and smoked paprika.

    I got some walking in over the last couple of days, I rode my bike in to work on Tuesday, left it there and walked home. Today I’m doing it the other way around. I walked into work, then I’m going to ride home.

    Have a good one everyone

    Thanks Neil. I’ll look that up. The smoke and fire one sounds delicious – or maybe I shouldn’t look it up lol

    That’s good about the walking, it’s good to change up your exercise sometimes. I forgot to reply to your post last week about the walking/riding sorry. I was hitting around 13k average steps until the weekend that is. It absolutely bucketed down with rain on both days (all day!) and I was lucky to get to 1k steps, it felt horrible. My joints started to ache and I just felt so lazy. I should have got off the lounge and did some floor exercises but I was so lazy I just sat there. Not a good feeling.

    LJ has replied apologising for worrying everyone and will post here soon. Whoa! Loads of posts to read now.

    CalifD, I see you’ve already reported on LJ. Yes, my email address is the same but I’ve had issues with not receiving mail for months due to my laptop being so old (14 years) that it couldn’t support further OS updates which affected the email programme. I bought a new laptop in Australia specifically to address that annoyance (one of the few things that was less expensive than England) and I’ve now got a new issue with receiving emails. I’ve also had to purchase separately features that were in-built in my MacBook Pro but that this one doesn’t have. Frustrating as I despair of this ‘technology throwaway era’. Now I need a new iPhone for similar reasons (I’m still using the iPhone7). Absolutely nothing wrong with either the laptop or the phone other than the tech companies have deemed them obsolete. I wish people would stop this mindless consuming, perhaps they will think twice as we enter our new tariff world.

    Quacka, thank you for the information on storing shoes. I had no idea. I did love leather boots when I owned a wardrobe and I will heed your advice about not storing them in boxes if I ever get any more. $200 for a pair of shoes, my goodness. I think my boots cost around $100 (always on sale) but they would last me years and years. A huge congratulations on your weight loss, thank you for posting the actual weight as it’s so satisfying to read.

    Anzac, hurray, congratulations! Only two days a week on the train – are the passengers still rude?

    Hello all, I’m a bit behind with reading.

    Cali thanks for the LJoyce update it’s a relief to know she is okay. Like Neil, I was having Penguin thoughts.

    Quacka yes Aquafaba is very good for health and I’ve seen mayo recipes using it but haven’t tried to make it that way, maybe next time if I remember.

    I have 2 pair of expensive shoes, over $300 retail each but purchased on sale. They are Vivo Barefoot shoes, I have a black hiking boot and a white gym shoe and they were worth every cent. They are designed for the foot not for fashion by being very wide across the toes and minimalist sole so the foot and toes have room to spread out as they naturally should and minimalist sole allows the foot to feel the ground contact while allowing the sole of the foot to walk as it was designed to. I wear them all the time and since using them and ditching the standard shoes I no longer have foot and toe problems. With all the walking we did in Adelaide during the fringe my feet felt just as good at the end of the day as at the start. I still have tons of standard shoes which I rarely wear nowadays but on the odd occasion I do need a pair to suit an outfit.

    Saturday weekly weight tally has recorded another loss of 0.6 and a reduction in body fat %, bmi etc but still no change in sinus’s condition but I will continue dairy free until Tuesday which will make it 2 weeks, I figure no change in that time means dairy is not the culprit. However, I’m thinking that it may be helping with my weight loss as I’m not consuming the good dairy fats so I will be mindful when I return to dairy to keep a check on the good fat intake.

    So lovely sitting on the front verandah this morning I’m feeling very unmotivated to get moving and do some chores. Have a good weekend everyone x

    Hello everyone.
    I’m sorry if you were worrying. I really didn’t mean to leave it this long, but I just got out of the habit of checking the forum – and time goes surprisingly fast.

    I had an unusually busy and tiring time over Dec-Jan and I completely withdrew from all online interactions. Even when things calmed down, the fatigue seemed to continue and I didn’t come back to this forum or to some vlogs that I used to follow regularly. I barely turn my laptop on these days. There are other habits that I have that are far less helpful – I wish I could break those as easily!

    My weight has been a struggle. Over December and January, when life was very hectic, I gained 8kg. While I managed to stop the weight gain, I am having little success getting my weight back to where I was 5 months ago. I’ve even had difficulty sticking to some of my FDs, which had not been a problem before. My low exercise levels haven’t helped either. I’ve been walking much less than I used to. This is partly due to knee pain, which reduces the distance I can manage. We have also had a particularly hot dry summer in Adelaide and I find it quite unpleasant going for a walk in anything above 28C. Now that temperatures have eased, I’m still having to cajole myself onto getting out and walking each day – another habit that I broke for long enough that I easily forget to go out and walk.

    Today is a FD for me. I’ve been for a walk and called into the green grocer for limes on the way home. I need them for Cinque’s mung bean soup that I have made for tonight’s dinner. I hope it tastes ok. I misread the recipe and put 1 tablespoon each of fenugreek and cumin, instead of 1 teaspoon.

    I hope you are all ok. I haven’t been reading posts so I’m not caught up with what has been happening in your lives. I will go back a few pages and read some posts now.
    Take care everyone.

    LJ, good to have you back and I’m sorry that things took an ‘uphill’ slide for you. You’re here now and back fasting, the heat of summer is over so hopefully you’ll be back to your old self (and weight) very soon.

    Anzac, I forgot to say that your post made me laugh. We’ve always called Australia the land of the acronym. People can speak a whole sentence using them. It’s like another language to learn. ‘BIRs’ was the first one to baffle us when we moved there looking for a house to rent.

    Wonderful to hear from you LJoyce and welcome back x

    Morning all,

    Good to hear from you Ljoyce, sorry to hear you’ve been struggling a bit recently. I hear what you say about time flying. It doesn’t feel like we should be halfway through autumn, but next Tuesday will be exactly that. This year is motoring by.

    My weekend was OK, I got out for a ride yesterday, and got the lawn mowed for the first time in about 2 months and it was halfway up my calves the grass was so long. I’m hoping I can put in a fast today and tomorrow, because I had cards with friends on Friday, and we always eat too much junk when we do that (luckily we only meet once a month). We had a big power cut last night that affected half of the western area of our city, affected around 3,500 households. It was quite nice hanging out in the dark with candles and camping lights around the house. My wife wanted a cup of tea so we broke out the camping stove to boil up a brew. Really roughing it 😉

    Have a great one everyone.

    Hello everyone,

    LJoyce, hello! So glad to see you here. Sympathy for how busy life is, and how tricky to keep up with things when you are tired. Same same.
    Was that mung bean soup edible? 1tbsp is a lot of fenugreek!

    I’ve lost every email I used to have for people here. Especially because my email has changed. My old email company disappeared.

    Cali, I am djoystevenson at g mail dot com.
    Sending best wishes to you and Grasshopper and Mr Cali.

    Gday, woot! for mayo success, sympathy for sinuses, woot! for weight management markers. Good luck finding some energy for exercise, but often it is sensible not to push yourself when your body is saying no.

    I am enjoying the extra hour I keep finding, now daylight savings has ended here. It is lovely.

    Quacka, big congratulations for the excellent 5:2ing and embracing busyness. Do post as often as you can, it is great to see your progress here. I hope those aches have gone.

    Neil, ha re my donation, there aren’t many Joys around these days so hello to that other one! Luckily this one isn’t morally opposed to charity 😀

    Excellent meal prep! I bet they make good eating too.
    Congratulations on getting the lawn done! Hopefully the colder weather will slow its growing now.

    Laughing at the shoe talk. I was always the sort of person who had about three pairs of shoes. Now I have many more even though I probably need even less. I am super picky getting them from op shops, but I think people donate very new ones that they buy online and then don’t fit, so I have gradually gathered a lovely selection. I went through a stage of buying lots of different colours, but now I am back to classics.

    Anzac, hooray! And hopefully the lovely people will go longform with all the acronyms until you are used to them. You never realise how many there are until a new person comes to work. But phew for WFH.

    I hope that now you do get the chance to fit 5:2 with work and lose those unneeded kilos.

    Thin, interesting that Australia is so acronym prone. We do like to shorten everything we can 😀
    Sympathy for all the computer/email hassles. Even when mindful, consumerism seems harder and harder to avoid.

    Sending lots of good wishes to everyone

    Good Morning everyone

    It’s Monday FD today and I may even do a B2B with tomorrow as I have just made a Wed afternoon appt with the dentist. Oh great!

    The weekend was great with exercise but not so great with eating and alcohol. I had pasta (out), nachos and chicken snitzel (both home made) and also too much alcohol, so feeling a bit bleh today. A good FD will fix me up.

    Thanks thin, for the congratulations. Yes, I will keep posting my weight until I get to my goal which I haven’t set yet. Interim goal is under 70kg when we go away. It’s now only 6 weeks away so it’s going to be close and if I keep eating like on the weekend I won’t make it even close!!

    G’day we sell the Vivobarefoot shoes in our shop but only the men’s ones at the moment. I haven’t ever tried them but I have seen most of the PT’s at the gym wear them and swear by them. It’s interesting that any foot issues you had disappeared after wearing them.

    Wow Neil, 9 days without coffee. Wondering how you are doing now and if you have had any since that post. I can take or leave coffee so it wouldn’t affect me too much but I can understand how it affects some people. I actually didn’t have any coffee for the 3 weeks we were in NZ, mainly because Mr Q doesn’t drink it. I still had my morning tea(s). Love that you used the camping stove to make a cuppa during the black out. I would have done the same!

    LJ, nice to see your post. Glad you have been ok and just busy. Time definitely flies by but I hope you can find some time to post again soon.

    Hi Cinque, Cali and Anzac and anyone else that I have missed.

    Hope everyone has a great week ahead and I’ll check in tomorrow to say if I’m doing B2B or not.

    Take care xx

    hi Quacka, I managed 10 days in a row without coffee at all to try to break the reliance on it. I’ve had 2 cups of coffee in the 4 days since. I had one at around 11am on Friday, and one at 11am this morning. I’d be happy if I can keep myself to just a few cups a week rather than what I was doing, which was a double shot first thing in the morning, double shot at 11am, and double shot at 3pm.

    Weighing in on the coffee debate, last year I went one month without coffee as I was drinking way too much. Now upon waking I have ACV and water and a large pot of organic green leaf tea. Then I’ll have one coffee mid morning, sometimes but not often I will have a second one. Very rarely will I have jar coffee nowadays, it’s always organic beans, ground and made using a moka pot on the stovetop. Good to see you are cutting back Neil, that was a lot of coffee in one day, especially one so late in the afternoon. Have you noticed any improvement in sleep?

    My sleep has improved after taking melatonin for a week or so and I’m loving the end of daylight savings. Back to getting up at 5am and falling asleep by 8.30pm with the exception of Friday night as we went to the cinema to see the Minecraft movie – Miss GDay’s choice not mine – neither of us enjoyed the movie or the crowd. People, or I should say teenagers, although I don’t like to lump one generation into being a certain way, were noisy, talked loudly all the way through the entire movie, were up and down to the canteen like yoyo’s and the parents who took their toddlers and pre-school children – well, they were quite happy to let their kids scream, cry and carry on throughout the entire screening. I couldn’t wait for it to finish – our worst cinema experience ever.

    Quacka how cool you sell Vivo’s. I bought mine from Vivo Australia direct. I can understand why the PT’s wear them as they provide great foot stability.

    Last day without dairy and still no change. Happy because I can go back to dairy but not happy because I still have sinus issues 😄

    Good Morning everyone

    B2B fast days for me today. I’m feeling pretty good about it but I am prepared for lunch today with a whole lot of veggies from last night’s dinner. It’s amazing how many veggies work out to around 100 calories.I have 175g cauliflower, 50g broccoli, 50g potatoes and 10g carrots (I know, but that’s all that was leftover lol), all for 93 calories! If I have miso soup with it that will be about 130 cals although very little protein. Figured it’s worth it to make up for my high cal eating on the weekend!

    You’re doing great with cutting down the coffee Neil and you too G’day. I was supposed to go for coffee with my gym buddy this morning but as I changed to a B2B fd I had a pot of tea instead. It was great to catch up with her outside of the gym.

    Hope you all have a lovely day xx

    Good morning everyone,
    I am in the middle of a busy week. I have a friend staying overnight so this is just a quick morning post with my first cup of tea, before she wakes.

    Tonight I have Ms 8 staying overnight, so I will probably need a week recovery time after that.

    Quacka, aren’t you rocking those back to back fast days. Yay for veggies! I hope you are feeling wonderfully light and empty.

    Neil, I bet that first coffee tasted SO GOOD after 10 days without.

    Gday, I am so glad your sleep has improved, doesn’t it make a difference!

    My grandchilden (10 and 8) went to the Minecraft movie with their mum and just LOVED the whole theatre clapping and laughing and cheering together. It was a school holidays kid daytime crowd so maybe more fun than you had to get through.

    I did another sort of fast day yesterday, haha. Well, I fasted until my friend arrived and then had a yummy samosa in yoghurt sauce with her for dinner, that was yummy but might have been 700 calories all on its own. It does mean I feel good this morning (without the stick of thinking I had LTR, I keep pushing the eating boundaries that suit me, sigh. My tummy is getting bigger.) I’ll do a proper fast day soon.

    Morning all,

    Frustration abounds. I feel thinner, my belt is looser on the notch I’ve been using than it was, but my weight was up half a kilo. Total of 800 grams up over the last 2 weeks.

    My boy went to the Minecraft movie, and he and all his friends dressed up in suits to go to the movie. Apparently, it’s a trend amongst the youngsters these days to dress up to go to the movies.

    I guess I can just keep on keeping on and hope that eventually my weight reflects what my belt is telling me.

    Cinque, the coffee did indeed taste very good, I’m trying to stick to one coffee every two days just to keep the amount of caffeine down. I’m having herbal tea in the morning, having my coffee at 11am on days I drink it, and having a chai from our work’s drinks machine in the afternoon.

    Well have a good one everyone

    Good Morning everyone

    Hi Cinque, hope you are having a nice time with your friend staying over and also tonight with Ms 8.
    Your sort of fast days are good training for the body for when you get to do your proper FD’s again. I know you will get there soon x

    Weight today is 73.9kg, yes that is 100g up from last week. I’m not too worried about the 100g more the fact that I didn’t lose any weight this week! That is what pasta, snitzels and nachos on the weekend will do and also yesterday I had a FD failure (***sad face***). Well, I’m calling it a failure. I was still under 800 cals but it should have been more like 600 cals, I was just so hungry when I got home that I had a little pig out on tasty cheese corn thins. Now if they were just plain corn thins I would have stopped at a couple but as they were tasty cheese (some addictive additive in them, I’m sure) I ended up eating 5 of them which added 135 calories that were not needed. Oh well, today is an eating day, and dentist day, and then tomorrow I might do a sort of fast (cheers Cinque) depending on how I feel. I guess it will be more like an IF, maybe an 18:6 or something like that. AND healthy eating for the rest of the week including the weekend, Quacka!
    No use beating myself up about it, next week will be two proper fasts and I should see a bit more weight down.

    Take care all xx

    Hi Neil, our posts crossed.

    Focus on the belt notches. Maybe your batteries in your scale do need changing. I remember it happened to G’day a while ago when she had a big jump in her weight one day and it was all to do with the batteries. It could also come back to all the exercise you have been doing, the extra muscle you are building and also your body holding onto calories to provide energy for working out.
    You have the right idea, just keep keeping on. And don’t pig out on nachos, pasta and snitzels like me!! lol 🙂

    It’s a FD for me as I woke to 100g over my trigger weight. I thought I was having a good Sunday FD as I was SO hungry all day but it yielded a miserable 300g loss, my worst result ever. I did drink a lot of water but using water weight as an excuse seems so lame so I’ve kicked in an extra FD. OH has a sad look on his face but it never hurts him to forego the little extras despite his FOMO. (Wednesday night is steak night at the pub that’s a shortish walk across two fields).

    Quacka, hats off to you with the B2B fasting. I never wake up hungry after a FD so it’s only a mental barrier that I feel I couldn’t do it. Frustrating results for you, me and Neil this week but we have to consider where we’d be on the scales had we NOT fasted. I did also briefly try to blame the scales’ batteries but my weight is what it is, no excuses, I just have to do what has to be done and tomorrow will be a happy day.

    Cinque, did you have a fun overnight stay with your friend? And then another lovely day with little Miss 8?

    Years ago, I drank 6-8 cups of instant or filtered coffee (mostly mindless drinking between patients at work). Once I invested in my Italian Rancilio coffee maker and could savour the entire process from the grinding of good quality beans, tamping, milk frothing, etc, I only required two cups per day. I miss my machine on the boat but I still keep to two cups of cafetière ground coffee a day and I can’t handle instant coffee at all. I dislike the commercial pod machine things and I rarely buy a coffee while out and about as I never know how many calories it might deliver and whether it will meet my standards. I recently saw a cup of coffee advertised at £3.80. That’s about AUD7.60, good grief.

    We spent the entire day travelling on country buses to get to a larger city for a ten minute appointment for OH yesterday. It started off so pleasantly with passengers greeting and acknowledging each other as they boarded at small villages. As we reached the towns, I was again struck by how generally unhealthy people looked. There were so many people using mobility devices and a number of people on the city buses displaying obvious mental health issues. And the obesity issue ever present – on both sides of the hospital counter. Receptionists, nurses, technicians – many morbidly obese. It’s hard to accept health advice from people who present like this.

    I remember in the Southern California hospitals where I worked in the eighties, staff fitness and health was a very high priority; we had a gym, staff showers, an exercise track around the hospital perimeter, regular 10km team running events, and so on.

    I wanted to know if poverty and ignorance are a valid defence for poor nutrition given that, in England anyway, a) education is free and b) education is compulsory. And, if this is the accepted line of defence, then why are there people in my own friendship and socio-economic circles who are morbidly obese? I wondered whether what we knew in the seventies as ‘domestic science’ was taught in schools today. Well, it turns out it is.

    Primarily a subject for girls, it was essentially scrapped in the early nineties in favour of ‘design and technology’ which left a generation of pupils unable to follow a basic recipe. But in 2008, practical cooking classes were re-introduced in the hope of combating obesity. It became compulsory for every child aged between 11 and 14, both sexes, to be taught practical cooking, learning to make traditional ‘English’ dishes such as fish pie, spag bol, along with (in a reflection of changing times) Indian and Thai curries.

    There were many teething problems when it was re-introduced. Some new schools hadn’t been built with kitchens. Teachers had to be re-trained. Home economics now includes personal and family finances, consumer issues, housing and interior design, nutrition and food preparation, as well as textiles and apparel.

    Critics, of course, moan that governments shouldn’t force teenagers into any subject that they don’t want to take. Given that there are so many influencing factors on their decision-making when it comes to nutrition (poor habits handed down from the generation of parents and teachers who apparently knew no better, cultural norms surrounding food, internet misinformation, social media influencers, poor understanding of how to manage personal finances, etc, etc), school seems to me to be a very good place to start.

    Day after FD and feeling a lot better for it. Hope everyone else is doing well.

    CalifD, did you like Gene Hackman? He was my favourite actor. What a sad ending for him, his wife and the dog. One of OH’s friends lives in that community. He didn’t know them but he said he’d been told off more than once by Mrs H for incorrect rubbish bin alignment!

    Cinque and Neil yes there was lots of dress ups at the minecraft movie as well as the audience participation which was great, very similar to what occurred at the opening night of Five Nights at Freddys. It was the rudeness of people talking loudly and screaming toddlers throughout the movie that annoyed me.

    On track for tomorrow’s weekly weight average to drop another half kg for the week so very happy with the continuing downward trend despite no fasting at all of late. Will fast later next week as we are in Adelaide for a few days early in the week and I time my fasting for when I have used up all the fresh food in the house and before I restock.

    Interesting times in America and indeed the world this week and moving forward. So much damage done in such a short period, all based on lies and incorrect facts. Leadership and common sense in the administration has been replaced with complete incompetence and reckless self indulgence. I could go on but I’ll stop there.

    Morning coffee time, have a good day everyone

    Hello friends

    Well I am in my 2nd week of the new job and things are slowly sinking in. I can’t wait until I can actually take some work off people and make a difference

    I have managed to lose just over a kilo so I think starting the new job has triggered something positive in my brain and I am finding it easier to eat properly

    Lovely to hear from you LJ, I am sorry things have been so hectic and tiring

    Cinque I hope you are recovering ok from your busy time with your friend and Ms 8

    Thin, Gene Hackman was one of my favourite actors too and yes it was tragic to hear the sad way he and his wife and dog all passed away

    I hear you G’day, thankyou Mr MAGA, my superannuation has nose-dived, just like everyone else

    Quacka you are doing so well, one not-so-good week will absolutely do no damage

    Neil, it simply has to be muscle weight. There is no other logical explanation if you feel thinner and your belt is looser

    take care all

    Good morning everyone.

    Neil, Quacka and Thin, I feel you scales pain. I hope you all have a better week ahead.
    In the week since I last posted I’ve done 3 FDs (Sa, Tu, Fr), yet my weight as of yesterday is unchanged. I suspect fluid retention, due to hot weather, is a factor. I sneaked in a weigh-in mid week and was down 1.2kg, then the weather changed and I know I retain fluid when it’s hot. The weather here turned hot by Thursday – we are now facing a week of mid-30s UGH!

    I have realised just how much my mood and energy levels are impacted by the weather. When it’s cool I sleep so much better and usually have unbroken sleep, so I have more energy and I want to get out of the house and do things. When it’s hot I get limited broken sleep and feel tired all day and I don’t want to leave the house. In the last few days as it steadily returned to summer temperatures here, I could actually feel myself getting grumpier and fatigued. It’s like a brain fog descends over me and I plod my way through the day. I really do live in the wrong city for someone who’s so averse to hot weather.

    Cinque, I smiled when reading your comment about needing a week to recover from a sleepover. I used to feel like that. My great niece and nephew are 11 and 13 now, so I offered a day out this week at Marion Westfield (movies, lunch and a wander around their favourite shops). I used to do that with a sleepover the night before. The day time option is definitely less tiring and they are old enough not to want sleepovers the way they used to.

    GDSA & Neil, I suspect my movies trip with my nephew’s kids will be Minecraft – I didn’t offer dress-ups!

    Anzac, well done on the new contract – excellent that you had a bidding war in the end. Excellent news on the flexible work arrangements – 3 WFH days is a good deal in the fiance industry these days, from what I hear. Commiserations on the super, let’s hope it improved before you retire. I suspect that once Trump’s done his deals and there is more certainty over world trade, the stock market panic will slow and confidence will return.

    Time for me to have a late breakfast. I might do a low cal high fibre smoothie. It’s good weather for it.

    Take care everyone.

    Here is an explanation of why the myth about muscle weighing more than fat was dispelled.

    The difference between fat mass and muscle mass is the density, not weight. Muscle is a compacted dense tissue, more sculptured than fat and therefore takes up less space compared to fat which is soft and sculptured.

    The difference is about body composition, not weight. fat has greater volume and muscle has greater density so while looking at the same weight of each, muscle takes up less space than fat therefore muscle mass looks smaller than fat mass, but they weigh the same.

    Increasing muscle mass without significantly reducing body fat will cause weight gain on the scales, clothes fit etc because while muscle has increased body fat has not decreased.

    So weight gain while someone is strength training and building muscle mass can be attributed to not losing enough body fat, retaining water due to inflammation, carb intake, illness or stress as examples of the many different reasons why.

    So while scales can show whether weight is up or down, and this can change dramatically day by day due to a whole host of different factors, there is so much more to take into account as the scales are probably the least reliable of all tools at our disposal.

    FD for me.

    LJ, you’ve reminded me how I used to feel hostage to the air-conditioner during Perth summers. Although we had perfect weather throughout our recent visit, months and months of heat can really sap your energy. Conversely, endless days without seeing the sun can become so depressing. We’ve just enjoyed twelve consecutive days of blue skies and sunshine here, it was 20C yesterday. We had two towpath BBQs this week.

    Anzac, I bet you’ll soon be a great asset to the work force. I’ve just read that Sydney is the second least affordable city in the world for housing (after Hong Kong) – so at least when you move north, you will be able to capitalise on that. I agree with LJ, stock markets are driven by fear and greed and have less to do with actual economies and more to do with perception.

    Good afternoon everyone

    It’s Monday FD for me and there will be no B2B this week. I am determined to have two good FDs and just eat healthily the rest of the days. The weekend was good, lots of exercise and good food and beautiful weather which made exercising easier. I went for a long walk yesterday on the beach and the sand was really soft and spongy so today I have woken up with sore legs down the outside from the knee down. A strange place to feel sore for me as it is usually down the front, like shin splints, if I am going to get sore.

    It’s so nice to have lots of posts to catch up on today!

    Thin, it’s good to hear “they” have brought back practical cooking classes. I hope they do that here too. I walk down the street in the town where I work and there is a huge percentage of obese people. I heard on the radio a few weeks ago that 67% of the people in our area are classed as obese! Well, in a town of around 30k people we have an astounding amount of fast food places, I’m not kidding about these numbers. So there are 3 x Maccas, 2 x KFC, 2 x Oporto, pizza hut, dominos, guzman y gomez, carl’s burgers, Zambreros, 2 x Subway and Krispy Kreme and these are just the one’s that I can think of. There are more that I can’t recall as I don’t really eat any of that junk food and that’s not to mention the various bakeries, take aways, pizza shops, another donut shop and about 10 Chinese restaurants/take aways. I just can’t believe that all these junk food places survive considering how expensive it is to eat there and how unsatisfying also – it’s not filling and you are hungry again not long after.

    Good to hear that you feel better after your extra FD, thin.

    G’day, you are doing so well losing weight while not fasting. Are you just super active at the moment or do you think it could be because of the no-dairy?

    Anzac, nice to hear you are settling into your job now and that you are finding the healthy eating easier. I hope that downward trend and positivity continues for you x

    LJ, you have done great in doing 3 FDs and I hope your fluid retention eases up. I hear you about the lack of sleep affecting you. I rarely have a good night’s sleep and so I always seem to be firing on three cyclinders. On the (very) odd occasion that I sleep through and only wake up around 3 – 4 times instead of 10 or more times, I feel great. I can only imagine how I would feel if I slept through without waking up at all!

    G’day I totally get why muscle can not weigh more than fat. It’s the old thing of a kg of steel versus a kg of feathers, the weight is the same but the volume is different. As you say, the scales are not the best measure for us. The manager at the gym always says the scale measures the result of gravity on our body. I guess we keep using the scale because it’s the easiest and quickest method to keep track of how our weight is going. As long as we remember how many factors affect that reading and don’t let it dishearten us too much when it’s not what we expected.

    This forum, well the people who are in here actually, is the best thing to keep us positive. We all know the different things that affect our weight but sometimes it’s nice for it to be reinforced by our friends and also to hear (read) some positive encouragement. Thank you to all of you here xx

    Quacka, lovely post thank you, I enjoyed reading it – twice. But I feel for you not ever getting a decent night’s sleep. I need pitch blackness and total silence to sleep.

    That’s a shocking array of fast food outlets. Same everywhere I think – the traditional High Street shops here have been replaced with row upon row of fast food outlets, tattoo shops, nail salons and Turkish barbers the latter widely supposed to be drug/gang/money laundering fronts (some towns have five or more in a single street). There are also eastern European shops selling nothing but sticky drinks and snack food. That tells you a lot, doesn’t it? Lots of fat people with expensive tattoos, perfect nails and/or trimmed beards.

    I’ve never frequented fast food chains. My problem with being horribly overweight was overeating. I can recall a bit of a dilemma when one of DD’s primary school class mates invited the entire class to her birthday party at McDonald’s. DD had never had it. We let her go and form her own opinion – I don’t think she’s set foot inside one since!

    That child’s mother BTW is my long-time friend and walking buddy (over 25 years). We went on several walks together during my recent Perth visit. She is even more grossly overweight than before, her knees are suffering terribly and it was clear she was struggling to walk. Eleven years ago, she watched the weight literally fall off me with 5:2 and could have replicated my path. She’s well-educated, lives in an affluent suburb, knows better, chooses to do nothing about it. Both her adult children (DD’s age) are morbidly obese, one to the extent that she cannot find clothing to fit and my friend is having to sew clothes for her.

    Another parent in our social group (private school education, successful business owner, affluent suburb) berated me for not allowing DD to drink sticky drinks in primary school. She told me that DD would ultimately ‘rebel’ and drink more sugary sodas. What a load of tosh. Like us, DD drinks water with meals whether at home or in a restaurant.

    These examples contribute to my difficulty attributing poverty / lack of education to poor food choices although of course I understand that, where those factors do come into play, they certainly don’t help. And I agree with you Quacka, fast food outlets don’t seem inexpensive when I see their ads.

    Morning all

    Weigh in this morning I was down a whopping 1.4 kilos, I’m sitting at the lowest I’ve been since the middle of November.

    Thin, 30 years ago McDonalds used to be ok as a cheap place to grab a meal when you’re in a hurry. I used to get it on the way to badminton when I was a teenager because they used to have 30c cheeseburger days on the night I had badminton. But now it’s not even a cheap option. Last time I took the family out to Burger King (Hungry Jacks) for lunch it cost us $60 for a burger, fries and drink for the 4 of us. That’s about a 20% of our week’s groceries for just one meal.

    Anzac, I never think it will be muscle weight when I gain weight. Of all the ways to gain weight, muscle is by far the hardest one to put on. Water weight is the easiest, then just the amount of food moving through your gut, then fat, then muscle dead last It tends to be pretty constant unless you’re body building. The fact I dropped 1.4 kilos this week suggests it was probably water weight. I may have to keep a check on the amount of salt that I’m consuming, because that is one of the things that causes it.

    Ljoyce, I’m also really affected by the weather. I get quite bad SAD over winter time when it’s cold and dark

    Quacka, Great that you had a good weekend. I had to head out for a mental health ride on Sunday. I had a really busy weekend running round after my teen, cooking food for both a family lunch and for an injured workmate (broken foot). I got to Sunday afternoon and was feeling really low, so I got out for a 2 hour ride on the local mountain bike trails through the forest. I was so glad I did, because on Monday the temperature plummeted, and it started pouring with rain. We dropped from a comfortable 22 degrees at 10am to just 12 degrees by 11am

    Gday, “interesting” isn’t really a term I’d use for the situation in the States at the moment. The latest meeting Trump had with the president of El Salvador, who is running the prison that Trump is deporting all the immigrants to, Trump has said that he’s looking into the possibility of sending US citizens there in the future but has to look at some “legal technicalities” first. I wonder how long before he goes full Putin and starts arresting political rivals on Trumped up charges (capitalised for a reason) and sends them off to the prison in El Salvador

    Well, into the rest of the week, have a great one everyone

    Hi Everyone

    It’s Wednesday FD for me and I don’t know why but it is going really easily. It could be that I have had an eating day in between (not that I had lots of food but enough to be satisfied) and it’s more of a mental thing. Maybe because I’ve been feeling a bit off in the tummy for the last couple days (seems to be going around locally) or maybe because I did a lot of exercise this morning. Or just that I am determined to get back into the 73s tomorrow and then try and stay there after a long weekend! Chocolate won’t be a problem for me as I haven’t bought myself any Easter eggs and OH has already told me he’s just getting me a block of chocolate lol. Much easier for me to avoid. I always say that Easter egg chocolate tastes so different but maybe that’s just a mental thing too ha ha. I think I just like Easter egg chocolate (the hollow ones) because the chocolate is nice and thin, and I break off a piece and really enjoy it. It’s also a throwback to childhood when we would get the dozen hollow Easter eggs that came in the egg carton. Oh the memories!

    Thin, I have also never eaten a lot of fast food. We grew up in a town that had no fast food places at all. The nearest one was KFC that was in a much bigger town (maybe a city) about two hours drive away. We would go there maybe once a year and Dad would order the bucket of chicken and chips and we’d go down to the beach and eat it. It was a treat back then and I think us kids mainly ate the chippies, as we used to call them. I had my first McDonalds when we came to Sydney to see my grandparents (an 8 hr drive). My aunty took my sister and I out to Maccas and I have never forgotten it. It wasn’t the food so much but the novelty – the big Ronald McDonald and the polystyrene hinged boxes that the burgers used to come in, and of course the chippies again.
    An interesting thing – my sister became addicted to the chocolate sundaes a few years ago and I mean addicted like a drug addict, she couldn’t stop. So she researched every ingredient that was in the sundaes and found that one, or maybe some, of the ingredients are known to be addictive. They are probably added to the sundaes just for that reason. She ended up breaking her addiction although I think she still eats Maccas sometimes, just that she is in control of it now.

    We also never had soft drinks or any other sugary drinks like cordial or juice. I tasted my first Coke when I was in my teens and it was disgusting.It still is.
    When we visited my grandparents my grandmother would make us up a glass of Tang. Does anyone remember that? Tang was a huge treat for us. Mum wasn’t impressed that my grandmother would give us all this naughty food ha ha but she didn’t make too much of a fuss as we only would visit maybe once/twice a year.

    Yay Neil! I knew that there had to be a big weight loss coming up soon for you. Well done for just keeping on and staying positive. Let’s hope that this downward slope is slippery ha ha and next week you have another big kg loss.

    I’ll check in tomorrow with my weight and it better be in the 73s.

    Chat soon x

    Neil, great news on the big weight drop. That’s always rewarding to see. I find days of overcast weather quite depressing.

    Quacka, lots of childhood eating memories in your post. I think it was before you joined the forum (the first time) that many of us discussed in a lot of detail about how our childhood shaped our eating habits. I remember raising the subject of difficult relationships with parents and food while growing up and it transpired that several others – Cinque, LJ, MerryMe to name a few – had similar experiences. We were made to eat everything on our plates and this had a profound effect on my relationship with food as an adult. It’s a lot more complicated than that but that’s the foundation of it.

    My memory of Easter eggs as a child is that they were amazing. They were heavy, enormous and filled with chocolates. The egg was so thick with chocolate that it was hard to break. My favourite was the Crunchie one. We’d get eggs from our parents, grandparents and aunts and uncles and they’d last forever. By the time I had my own child, the eggs seemed so disappointing. Lots of packaging but the egg weighed nothing, rubbish quality chocolate and, worst of all, NOTHING inside! Hopeless. Instead, our tradition became that I’d hide some good quality mini eggs all around the front and back gardens. I made a template of a giant rabbit’s foot to create footprints with talc placed along the garden paths.

    I haven’t had it but I know what Tang looks like. It’s a pale orange powder that comes in a jar. Looks disgusting. When we were children and had a family outing to the countryside, a big treat was to sit in a beer garden and drink a Tizer (eeew) with a packet of salt’n’vinegar crisps while our parents and grandparents had a pint at the pub. I remember the salt came in a waxy blue packet inside.

    Sometimes these outings couldn’t go ahead at all because hours had been wasted locked in a stubborn battle with me not wanting to eat my dinner (midday back then) and my parents insisting I sit there until I finished it. Often this meant that my behaviour had ‘ruined’ everyone else’s afternoon. It took me decades to move on from all that food trauma.

    Quacka, I’m fasting with you today as I’m not totally happy with my mid-week weight. Fingers crossed for you seeing the 73s.

    Good morning everyone,

    It is the end of next week! (Time flown since I last caught up!).

    I am happily sipping my morning coffee. Sympathy to LJoyce and Gday suffering a SA Autumn heatwave. Here it is just as much worry about climate change, but a much nicer experience. A week of weather in the late twenties so I can wear my summer clothes one last time.

    Lots of agreement with things said over the week: aagh the fast food places and the way childhood eating and relationships mould our brains, yes, I am another terrible sleeper and doesn’t it make everything more difficult, woot the belt buckle beats the scales again, oh no people talking and toddlers screaming and ooh doesn’t chocolate in the shape of eggs taste enhanced! (They say it is because biting the thin shape means it is in our mouth tasting and smelling for longer).

    I found a new podcast series my twin doctors are doing and they spoke to a clinical psychologist about willpower and they broke it down into two main things (if I got it right), one is planning what to do when the unexpected happens, and the other is being able to sit with stress discomfort. (Thin, I think these might be your superpowers).
    They talked about the difficulty of making new habits and that the fails always happen and are important to learn from. Not that new and surprising to me, but I notice I have been thinking about it since, so I thought I would share it.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00298p6

    I have pretty well recovered from my busy week and it was a good one. This week my daughter’s family are away and I have just had to occasionally visit their two gorgeous cats (who don’t seem to have been missing them at all). They are brother and sister cats, both deaf, both white with amazing blue eyes. Meg is small and short haired, Murphy is huge and super fluffy. So gorgeous.

    Thin, yay for your stubbornness. It was an awful mindset in those times that children needed to be ‘broken’ to never win an argument with an adult. My sister suffered terribly the same. I went all numb and compliant (broken).

    I have been doing some gardening, lovely autumn things in: Japanese greens, coriander and lettuce, lots of self sown parsley and warrigal greens.

    Proper fast day coming soon.

    Cheers aLL

    I wrote this message yesterday and posted it before shutting down the computer, however, I must have been a bit quick to turn off the computer as it didn’t appear. So, with a little editing, here it is!

    I know it’s been a while and I have been lurking, but my weight has been just hovering around the 71/72 mark and I seem to have little motivation right now to concentrate on losing more but I do see some light just around the corner.

    The house is coming along well. I liked your comment Thin about complete darkness and silence for sleep. We are just at the window dressing stage of the house and I have samples of window coverings, OMG, what a minefield. Anyway, we are having double, shade and blockout blinds in the bedroom! The house is thickly insulated and lined, the kitchen being made, window frames are in, but alas the window company has sent the wrong glass, so new glass has to be fitted next week! We have purchased a new fridge/freezer, washing machine, bed base with drawers/mattress & headboard, a TV and wooden console cabinet, a couch, a chair and a beautiful oak & glass display cabinet. All we have to sort now is bedsides and lights and finish sorting the small laundry cupboard being fitted around the washing machine in the bathroom. We are having the final design session this weekend with the builders to finalise paint colours then sort the blinds next week before we head away south to house sit for 5/6 weeks. Our finished house is then being delivered a couple of days after our return!

    We have no worries about silence here for sleeping, all I can usually hear is the solitary Morepork, and a beautiful sound too.

    We have had some amazing sunny weather of late but I’m not looking forward to this weekend weather that’s forecast, plenty of heavy rain coming our way with very strong winds and some cooler temps.

    Sadly my father passed away on March 31st and his funeral is being live streamed, so i’ll be setting my alarm very early next Wednesday morning.

    I can certainly resonate with a lot of the comments re childhood and food. I was brought up in the country too and had no idea what Maccas or any other fast food joint was till I was in my early twenties. When I tasted one I was horrified, it was disgusting, and I still don’t eat burgers, not even as pub food, they are right at the bottom of my food list! My mum used to make her own fruit cordial when we were young, orange & lemon, and we took it to school every day with our packed lunch. Every Saturday lunch was fish in our house, fresh from the market and my elder sister couldn’t stand the bones so was made to sit at the table till she finished her plate. She was still sitting there when Mum set the table for tea! So sad that it seemed to be the norm?

    We were the same with Easter eggs, we received them from parents, siblings, aunts and uncles, grandparents and they were delicious. Mum always had Terrys Chocolate orange and a box of Black Magic chocs from Dad. We used to line them up on top of the piano, each in our own little pile, it was amazing how long some of them sat there. My brother made his last till Xmas one year! I don’t touch them now, I really don’t find the need and I don’t believe in the whole marketing machine that comes with it. I enjoy my square of dark chocolate with my long black every morning, that’s enough for me and I treasure it.

    Well done on the loss Neil, and you go Quacka, racing down those scales, well done.

    Best go and get ready for work, we have finally got registered with new Dr’s here and are having full bloods done today.

    Take care all, hope to be back again soon.

    Good Morning everyone

    74.4kg so I didn’t make the 73’s this week. I had two good FD’s so I just say whatever. Enough said

    Thin, I didn’t grow up with those sort of “bad” food experiences like some of you did. I was never made to eat all my dinner or anything like that, though I do remember Dad forcing me to try fried chicken livers and they were disgusting and I will never eat any kind of offal again! This was a a one off though. What I did have in my family was a huge focus on food, and this means my immediate and extended family. It’s sort of hard to explain but I come from a big Greek family and love is shown with food. Mum is an excellent cook, even my Dad could cook really well. My grandmother and all my aunties are also excellent cooks. We always had plenty of food around and biggest problem it was always so yummy, and is still so yummy! Every family gathering involved a lot of food and a huge variety of it and even if you have a little bit of everything you end up completely stuffed. So I guess what I’m trying to say is my weight/food issues comes from eating too much (really) good food not eating crap. Portion control is everything, but have you ever seen a portion of food that Greeks serve? It is massive ha ha.
    One of the main things that doing 5:2 has taught me is that it is ok to be hungry. It won’t kill you. I still struggle with it, the being hungry part and also the portion control. If something tastes yummy I just want to keep eating it. I’m pretty chuffed when I can actually say yes this is amazing but now I have had enough, and stop eating. It’s a work in progress.
    I hope your FD went well thin, i know you will have done it but just I hope that it was nice and easy. Your Easter egg tradition sounds like fun and ohhhhh the Crunchie egg! Crunchie’s are my favourite chocolate bar, followed closely by Violet Crumble. Yep, teeth rot here we come lol.

    Cinque, nice to read your post. The deaf cats sound cool. OH and I had a deaf dog called Maya who was also white. Did you know there is a correlation between white coats and deafness apparently? We taught Maya sign language and she was the best dog. I still miss her and her mate Brandy who we got from the pound to be Maya’s ears. Pets are so wonderful while they are around but so heartbreaking when they go. Too sad.
    Your gardening sounds good. I’ve never had Warrigal greens but my grandmother used to make this stuff called “Horta” which translates to “weeds” in English. It was dandelion greens that she would cook up and then dress with olive oil, maybe some lemon juice as well. Super healthy but disgusting to us as children although I’m sure I would love it now.
    Asian greens are always good in anything. How do you control all the pests the get on them though? I’ve tried growing them before and ending up with more holes and pests than actual leaves lol.

    Well I better go and do some work. I hope you all have a lovely weekend. I am determined that my one will be active and eating nice healthy food (with portions controlled!)

    Take care all and Happy Easter XX

    Morning all

    We used to get the big chocolate eggs with things inside them (pebbles, chocolate buttons, jelly beans etc.) when we were kids, and I used to annoy the hell out of my siblings. They would scoff all theirs straight away, whereas I was the kind of kid that would break off one little piece at a time. A week after easter I would still be eating my eggs, and my siblings would be looking on with angry envy.

    We grew up in a small town so the only fast food we got was fish and chips, and that was only on our birthdays. The city near us had a KFC and a Pizza hut which we went to maybe once every 3 years. When I was in my teens the other fast food places like McDonalds, Burger King, etc started turning up. These days the only fast food I miss is Georgie Pie. That used to be my staple when I was playing tennis as a teen. I used to play for my school team in the city from 9am-12pm, grab a couple of Georgie Pies after the matches, then drive back home to play in the senior competition that my town had with the neighbouring townships from 1pm-5pm.

    Turn, great to hear from you again, you’ll have to send through pics of your house if you can

    Have a great Easter everyone, and don’t eat too many hot cross buns and easter eggs. I’m hoping the weather holds up enough so I can get out for a couple of rides.

    What a super day after FD reading all those food stories. I loved them.

    Quacka, it’s so interesting that cultures such as your Greek and the Italians express their love by providing bountiful food. Neil has talked of this with his Indian in-laws also and how his rellies would be offended if the food were refused. I can imagine frequent celebrations of large family get-togethers with so many dishes to sample and plates piled high. I’m afraid I’ve never associated food with love. Mealtimes were a battleground.

    Cinque, you summed it all up so well as always and made a good point about not having to win every argument with your child. Sometimes it seems parenting has gone from one extreme to another in one generation. Fast food ads in England can now only be shown after 9pm making me wonder who’s calling the shots.

    At our house, it wasn’t only about eating everything on the plate but instilling good table manners. My younger brother usually ate everything on his plate quickly progressing to the dessert reward (I’d still be pushing my food around the plate trying to make it look like I’d eaten more). I remember we had small dessert bowls with a lip around the edge. One day, my brother picked out all the sultanas from his spotted dick and custard and neatly placed them around the lip to savour for last. Just as he got to that point, my dad reached over and scooped them all away saying, “let that be a lesson to you not to play with your food”. That ‘lesson’ has stayed with us both for sixty years!

    We never went to restaurants until we were much older but I must say that I am grateful that we were taught how to behave in one. This was considered an adult arena and it was a privilege to experience it. My intolerance of feral children running around other patrons’ tables, yelling, overindulged in food and drink preferences and seemingly unable to endure the experience without an ipad probably stems from my own upbringing. Other people’s comfort was always instilled in us even when we played in our own garden.

    I’m interested that fast food outlets already existed in many of your larger towns while you were growing up, but I suppose some of you are a decade younger than I. I’d never heard of McDonald’s until the first one opened in London when I was at university. Four of us hitch hiked from our hospital practice in Croydon up to London one evening to experience it. We had the works – hamburger, french fries and a thick vanilla shake – and then hitch hiked back. It was so different from anything I knew. Like Neil, fish and chips would have been our only and very occasional fast food experience before that.

    Turn, great to get your tiny house update. Sorry to hear about your dad passing away, so difficult when you’re far away. I’d forgotten all about Black Magic. I can empathise with your sister’s mealtime experiences having spent many an hour in front of a plate of re-heated food. On one occasion, everyone was upstairs getting ready to go the grandparents’ house and I was being told I couldn’t go unless I ate my dinner (as if they would have left me home alone!). I scooped up the remains of the disgusting shepherd’s pie and put it in my cloth handkerchief but stupidly put that in an empty waste basket. While I was upstairs brushing my teeth thinking I’d got away with it, I heard my dad’s booming voice. He’d found it and was re-heating it.

    Hi Turn, I’m sorry I missed your post. It must have come thru as I was posting mine. It’s so interesting to hear of your home building. I think a tiny home?
    Im so sorry about your Dad. I will be thinking of you. My father passed away during COVID lockdowns. We didn’t get to have any kind of funeral or anything at all. He actually wanted it that way but it ended up having to be that way anyway. A s**t time. Sending hugs to you xx

    Thin, the more I hear about your childhood food battles, shall I say meal battles, it makes me me even sadder. My grandparents grew up with very little food. Every part of an animal, or plant I guess, was used and eaten in some way. My grandfather would have a meal of a whole fish and even eat the eye, spitting out just the lens which was inedible, and this was when they lived in Australia! In Greece, they had no shops nearby, no supermarkets, nothing. It was what they could grow or slaughter, that was what they ate. Food was appreciated.
    The sultanas your brother saved for last, that story made me sad. Does he have food issues too?
    What made me even sadder was your story about the shepherds pie. I have visions in my head of a little thin being forced to sit in front of reheated dinner again. I’m sorry that happened. It shouldn’t have.

    Hope you get out for a few bike rides Neil. I’m hoping to also!

    See ya friends xx

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