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  • Hi friends

    Still hot hot hot here in Sydney. Mid thirties every day according to the Foxtel weather channel.

    Gday, I’m so sorry about your hens, how awful. Especially as you were trying your best to keep them alive. 48 degrees is certainly deadly for all living things.

    Quacka, your sister sounds like a massive challenge for you and I don’t envy what you have been through. Like This said, don’t get me started on children’s behaviour these days. I grew up with getting smacked and my Mum would have the cane out without any hesitation. I was taught to respect everyone and everything and especially my elders. If I spoke back to anyone in her hearing I would cop it. I hope you can now enjoy the rest of your lovely break. And yes, please vent here anytime; we all have lots in common and can commiserate and/or offer advice

    Thin, you continue to motivate me with your success! We ended up having friends around yesterday as they were desperate for a swim. They bought nibbles and we had a big dinner and yes it ended up being an EFS event. So no surprise when the scales jumped up 600g this morning – but I don’t regret it, we had lots of fun. So today I skipped brekky, walked around Westfields for 2 hours and had a light lunch and will have a light dinner. I bought lots of clothes for OH and a new cozzie for myself as my other one was too big (yay) and also falling apart.

    BetsyLee – to get any Christmas weight off AND lose another 400g is awesome. Congratulations!

    Cinque, glad it is cooler and yay for your impending fridge delivery! So cute for you to play doctor with your granddaughters

    LJ, our parents sound very similar except the other way round. My Dad was, and still is, very quiet and gentle. My Mum was a hot head and was definitely the disciplinarian.

    Cali, I joined you in an out of control controlled NFD yesterday. I am not fasting during my break but having a very controlled NFD today to help combat it. Hope your FD is going/goes well

    My list of 20 tasks of productive things to do on my break is still sitting at 20! It’s just too hot and quite frankly I am prioritising training and playing with Maxx, spending time with OH and cooling off in the pool and doing lots of laps as my exercise. I do feel guilty about the junk room that needs sorting out desperately, the cupboards and wardrobes that need a good clear out but too bad!

    Intesha – at least you are making a half-hearted attempt at drawer clearing! Well done you for still going to the gym in this awful heat.

    Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend.

    Thanks Quacka ! I’d kill to be 67.4 kg, well done ! I’m 3 kg away at the moment. What BMI did you get to ? Mine is 24.6 and imo it should be 22 ish but my gp says that is too low when you are post menopause risks osteoporosis. What about all the risks when your bmi is above 25?

    Quacka, do you have to deal with your sister much? Or is that a Christmas family get together tradition? I didn’t mean imply that yours and LJ’s families were a bunch of boozers – I just meant in general when that distant great uncle has one too many sherries and says the wrong thing!

    Quacka, can we send audio to imgur? I’ll see your whipper snippering neighbour and raise you a whiney couple of over-indulged boys who need a three ring circus to keep them entertained 24/7 and cry every time they can’t get their own way. OH is threatening to turn on his air compressor when we go out.

    GDSA, your sad story of the chickens did remind me of how we lost a rabbit years ago in exactly the same way. But we had followed LJ’s advice, checking on him every hour to exchange frozen bottles of water. It wasn’t enough. Thumper just couldn’t cope. Had we known that he was in immediate danger, we could have brought him inside but we didn’t know that he was in distress until he died. It was awful to think that we essentially killed him through ignorance. Tough for DD who was about 5 at the time.

    Rosy Posy, well done on your loss to date. I’m the only other person posting from Perth on this thread atm. (Is there a word for an acronym having two meanings?) RU NoR or SoR? He he.

    Anzac, I hadn’t realised that we were on the next page so didn’t see your post. Hello! I think that keeping cool would be the priority. You are on holiday after all. Enjoy! I’m pleased I motivate you but, like CalifD, I’m hovering above and below 60kg and hoping to keep it all together by 3 Jan when I pledged out loud to be under 60kg. I have one low key neighbour event on NYE and two FDs between now and then.

    Rosy, you will get there. Just keep at the 5:2. That’s all I have done and believe me I dont have very controlled NFDs. It has taken about 15 months to lose around 15kgs but I am happy with that. I’m 41 years old but my body has shrunk proportionately. I’m beginning to like how I look ( she writes sitting on the beach in her bikini!)

    thin, I only see my sister once or twice a year. I know you didn’t imply that we were boozers lol. You are right though, alcohol can play a huge part in family arguments and differences. I’m just a big stress head and things like this eat at me until I learn to let them go. Sometimes (usually) it takes another stress to replace that one and then I let it go! Maybe when I grow up a bit I will be ok ha ha ha

    Thanks Thinatlast. I’m NOR but I grew up SOR so my heart is still there. How about you? Oh how wonderful to be hovering around 60kg! What is your bmi? How much have you lost and how long did it take you ? Beautiful weather in Perth today !

    I’ve forgotten to post “something that made me smile” for a few days so here’s one from today. It must be bird breeding season as I noticed a pair of them sitting up on the electricity wires when I walking earlier. Well one was sitting the other was fluffing up his tail feathers and doing a little dance. The other was looking suitably hard to impress. If a bird could say “really, that’s your best moves”.

    Perfect weather this week Rosy Posy. I didn’t want to rub it in but now you’ve mentioned it…..

    I’ve been living SoR for 26 years, close to the Swan River. I’ve lost 24kg. My GP says I was 87kg at my worst but I only have records to 83kg. It took me a year of 5:2 steadily losing half a kg per week with one or two plateaus along the way, one of which was over my first Christmas. I reached my goal weight in August 2015 which I maintained for 3 years (using a combination of 5:2 and 6:1). Last year I dropped another kg when a visceral fat scan cheekily suggested that I was 2kg overweight. My BMI is 21. I’m 62.

    Sounds like you are well on your way and at a much faster pace than I. I can identify with your knee issues, I was an obsessive runner in California, diagnosed with bilateral OA knees at age 27. The lost weight has worked wonders in eliminating joint pain – and a host of other issues. I haven’t felt this good in 35 years.

    Wow thinatlast, what an achievement getting to a bmi of 21! Fantastic! Gosh OA at 27! Have you ever had surgery? I had an arthroscopy in my late 40s which was a disaster ! I’Ve just turned 61 and I grew up in Mt Pleasant. So far today I have done 1 hour on my reclining ex bike , 2 coffees, a cup of bouillon and lots of water. I’m hoping to be at preXmas weight tomorrow. Thanks so much for your support, inspiration and encouragement. I’m on holidays at the moment so in between spring cleaning or should I say Summer cleaning, I am enjoying reading this forum. I started fasting at the same weight as you.

    Thanks for your encouragement Quacka ! How did you decide when enough weight loss was enough? I have some unhelpful friends tell me I have lost enough when clearly a bmi of 24.6 is not enough.

    Rosy, yes I’ve had bilat. arthroscopic chondroplasties and other odds and ends to clean up the joints. TKR is not indicated for me because it’s only my patellofemoral joints that are affected and it would be a waste of otherwise good joint surfaces to perform TKRs. With the weight gone, it’s not even a factor for me – other than the fact that I can’t run or do high impact things. Once in a while, I dance and sometimes suffer the consequences the next day, much less so than before.

    As for the unhelpful comments about our weight loss, we’ve had that discussion here several times before. The motivation of those people is not always clear. My local GP, who’s very supportive of 5:2 says it’s because we’ve challenged their sense of what’s normal and people have difficulty with change.

    I love the Mt. Pleasant area. Enjoy your holiday.

    Quacka, I missed your earlier post but went back as Rosy mentioned it. It’s good that your sister isn’t in your life too often. I was that way with my mother – we have been estranged for 20 years. We rub each other up the wrong way and I found it was just best not to have the disruption in my life. Fortunately, she lives in Florida.

    It’s heartbreaking for me that my sister is not in my life. I’m coming to this weird realisation that it’s been heading that way for maybe 20 years. It’s sad. However it’s also enlightening. I can still love her and yet not want to have to deal with her. I sound like such a b. See my problem. Head and heart refuse to consolidate and I am left a confused soul. Argh!

    Rosy, I haven’t decided that I’m happy with my weight loss yet. It’s an ongoing process. The main thing is at the moment I am actually happy with the way my body looks. I don’t hate it. Yeah, I have a way to go. But if I was forced to stop right now I would be ok with that so long as I maintained it. At the same time I want to lose more. I would be happy with being around 60kg but I will also assess how that looks on me. I was in my 20s last time I was close to that, actually under that at 58kg. I’m hoping it will look good, but I will reassess when I get closer. Probably 62kg will be my limit. I like a few curves and I remember 58 as being a little too boyish and straight for my body structure. We will see

    Morning all, from Dublin. It’s 7.20 am and we’ve been awake since midnight… The dreaded jetlag. The little ones are feeling it too. The 5 year old was so tired last night that she went to sleep half way through telling her mum that she loved her.

    Finishing my post, much later in the day…. We have had a great morning at Phoenix Park where we came across a herd of deer which gathered around while the children (and adults) fed them carrots. Perfect. Also squirrels, swans and robins, which ticked every box on the children’s wish list.

    I’ve been reading about how families and Christmas intersect, and not always positively. And also generational behaviours. I emphathise. I love my family but it was the behaviour of some of the young adults last year that drove me to say, finally, no more big Christmas/Boxing Day events at our house. We are away this year to break the cycle, and now in future we’ll keep Christmas as a celebration for the little ones, and a time for us to enjoy the company of their parents (our son and daughter and partners). Simple food, simple gifts for the children, and most of all, peace. And the joy of waking up after Christmas feeling content, and not put upon, as I have for a few yearsnow.
    I am struggling a bit to maintain a reasonable diet. Far too much carbohydrate, but once we get to our next Air BnB in the Northern Ireland countryside we’ll have better cooking facilities and therefore more options. I packed my bigger jeans and a belt, and will deposit all 4 pairs in the charity bin before we leave, ready to start the new year with a very strong focus.
    Quacka and Thin I’ll raise you six potty- mouthed tradies who have essentially destroyed their brains with booze and drugs, and their hearing with loud music so they have to yell not converse.
    The thing that made me smile…actually the little girls’ reaction to the wildlife….and Cinque’s grandchildren who are perfectly beautiful.
    Happy day all.

    Good morning everyone,
    Sun’s out. My new fridge is lovely. It is my fast day.

    Gday, so sorry to hear of your poor hens. What a heatwave. I do hope the next couple of months are not too cruel.
    Congratulations on the painting.

    I’m so glad you are enjoying your bikini, Quacka, and that you have a new cozzie, Anzac.

    Rosy Posy, isn’t it interesting working out when you have lost enough weight. Mine just settled naturally at the lower end of my healthy weight range, and it felt really good. (It does try to sneak up again whenever I give it leeway, I still have too many old bad habits. Strict 5:2 fixes it again.)
    I have read that we necessarily lose bone density as we lose weight, but the answer is exercise and nutrition, which it sounds like you do. That should minimise any bone density loss.

    Quacka, I have gone through that heartbreaking realisation that there are differences between siblings that mean any real closeness is impossible. My heart goes out to you. (I am from a big family and some of us are close, but that doesn’t stop the grief of giving up on others.)

    Lindsay, lovely to have your post from Dublin! And what a delight to be with the littlies among deer, squirrels and robins. That 5 yo is such a sweetie. I do hope you catch up on sleep quickly, all of you. And I give full support to your idea for your future Christmasses!
    Good luck avoiding the excess carbs and finding those veggies, I can imagine it is tricky.

    I worked hard yesterday as getting the new fridge involved cleaning behind the old one (bought second hand, I’d had it for 11 years) and rearranging everything around it, and finding new places for the things that were on top of it (it is too tall) which meant rearranging even more things..
    It was so old it dropped hunks of rusty metal on the way out. And the weird smell has gone, so it probably was its motor dying.

    Today I’m going to fast, and potter around, and rest, and have great pleasure every time I open the fridge door (or the freezer!). What a lovely day ahead. We’ve got a few easy days before it heats up again so I will make the most of them.
    Hope your day is lovely too.

    Fasting Sunday, 59.8kg. 28C. Cinque, what a strange paradox, bewitched by your new fridge on a FD!

    Lindsay, so good to read your post, and so perfectly written – no surprise there. What a great decision to break the Christmas cycle. It sounds like you’re having a wonderful time with the little ones.

    I have only one brother and, despite the miles between us, we have a very good close relationship. Our parents, bizarrely, over the years often tried to play one against the other but we have never allowed them to succeed. At various times, we have both been “cut out of the Wills” but always agreed we’d share anything coming our way. Nothing did. We skype frequently, chatting for hours, and barely a day goes by when I don’t get a snippet of an email from him (one popped up while I was writing this!). We had a brother that died age 7 and we have a step brother that I haven’t seen for 30 years. At the moment, his mother isn’t speaking to him so my brother and I are flavour of the month. Good to be far away from all that nonsense. My brother has been worth his weight in gold whenever any family members were sick or in need, always there at the end for them, very caring. I’m very grateful to him. (The other night, we watched him in Harry Potter IV in which he was a death eater!). My brother frequently makes me smile.

    I think I stopped trying to lose weight when I reached a plateau that didn’t seem to budge. I decided to change its name from plateau to maintenance. It’s very hard to have an accurate body image which is why those well-meaning comments from friends only add to the confusion. It has taken me three years to accept that I am a slim person, not a fat person who lost some weight.

    Morning everyone, can I celebrate with you that my bmi is now 23.9? I like the 23 numbers much more than the 24s. I lost 600 g overnight after 2 consecutive fasting days. I’m going to fast again today (I know it is not advised) but we are doing jobs around the house so no food temptations and I want to look good for NYE party, so I am going all out, then of course I have an ABBA dress up party in 3 weeks and ABBA costumes are challenging! Thanks so much for your advice Quacka, Thin and Cinque. I was always 60 , 61 kg my 20s and 30s so I’m aiming to get close to that, mainly because of knee pain but also because I am sick of the roller coaster of weight loss / weight gain.

    Rosy, congratulations on your new BMI. Wow, three FDs in a row. You will be the Dancing Queen.

    Good morning SHs

    Rosy, yes I can imagine that an ABBA costume would be very challenging. Fitted and clingy and no allowance for bulges.
    Like Thin, I moved to maintenance when I reached the lowest weight I felt I had any hope of maintaining – and my GP agreed. My BMI was still 29 at the time, but then it had been 50. That was 3 1/2 years ago and recently I finally realised I am no longer afraid of weighing less and am confident that 5:2 could help me maintain a lower weight. I am however happy to let my body decide and find its own level – trying to force the issue doesn’t seem to be working for me.

    Lindsay, lovely to hear from you, although I admit I was expecting you to be in Scotland not Ireland – did I misunderstand of have you been touring around? Sounds like you have have a wonderful time and creating nice rather than stressful Christmas memories – other than the jet lag of course.

    Cinque, so glad you are happy with the new fridge-freezer.
    I do have a question that you may know the answer to. I have some tubs of chicken broth in the freezer and I was thinking of using some to make zucchini soup (given I am picking so many at the moment). I’m wondering if it would be safe to freeze any of the soup, given that the stock had already been frozen once. Do you know?

    Rosy & Thin, Is there a Mt Pleasant in W.A.? I was imagining the one in the Adelaide Hills which is a very pretty town, but I suspect you mean somewhere else.

    Anzac, the things you are doing on your break, sound a lot more like “a break” than tackling a list of 20 tasks. Enjoy your time off.

    FD for me, one pot of tea so far. I still haven’t decided what to have for dinner. It will need to involve the surfeit of produce from my veggie patch, but I’m still tossing up between a salad and zucchini soup. It’s actually only 28C here today, so mild enough for me to contemplate soup.

    I’ve changed my mind. I’m making a single bowl of chicken noodle soup for dinner. Thin’s mention of konjac noodles and my worry about refreezing chicken stock gave me the idea. I’ve just taken the smallest tub of stock out of the freezer and I will still get to add some veggies to it. I figured that later in the week when it’s hotter I won’t want soup and the salad will be more appealing for my next FD.

    Personally, I would have no qualms about re-freezing the stock but I’m perhaps not the best person to ask.

    Mt. Pleasant is a really lovely inner city Perth suburb.

    My vine tomatoes that I grew from seed are still going. I’ve never had a crop like this. Like fireworks in your mouth.

    Hi Thin and LJoyce, thanks for your congrats . I’m posting this while riding my reclining ex bike.

    I too would have no qualms about re freezing the stock as I always cook with meat that has been frozen, then refreeze the left overs and have never had any problems. The only caution I would add is when you reheat the cooked frozen food, reheat it as high as possible and never keep it at room temp as that is asking for trouble.

    Perth is wrapped around th Swan river and its tributary , the Canning River which is south of the city. Mt Pleasant borders the Canning River. My family’s home was 3 houses away from the Cannong River which we could see from most windows. Mt Pleasant is quite hilly, hence its name. I learnt to swim in the Canning River.

    Hi Thin, well done with your 59kg , what a magic number! I love it when you get down to a new number, eg from 71.0 to70.9.

    Your story about parents playing one sibling off against another is a very familiar tale. Hub’s 92 year old mum still plays favourites so neither of the 3 offspring trust or like each other. My mum did it with my older and younger sister so much now that they have completely excommunicated each other. I refused to take sides, was always the meat in the sandwich trying to get on with both sisters. Now my older sister with whom I mainly got on , has excommunicated me for not excommunicating my younger sister.

    As parents in a more aware, enlightened age, I have tried very hard not to repeat the cycle with my own sons.

    Hi Cinque, I would love to have the situation of deciding whether I have lost enough weight. I think I will let the bmi guide me as I feel Mine should be 21. My gp put me on to the Fast Diet but I’d heard about it and seen the book in shops. I also take calcium and vit d tablets daily and do weight bearing exercise in an attempt to avoid osteoporosis if or when I manage to lose another 9kg. That would take me to a total weight loss of 23 kg.

    Dr Mosley has tweeted that his new book is out (UK only though, I expect) “The Fast 800 is around 180 pages of really new stuff on IF, keto, rapid weight loss etc, plus detailed programme on how to keep the weight off. Plus 90 pages of recipes.” In another tweet he said how much he had enjoyed writing it because of all the new research that has come out.

    I’ll be interested to read it, but his good old 5:2 is my favourite program to keep the weight off 😉

    LJoyce, they did cover that very question when I did my Food Handling Skills. It is as Thin and Rosy Posy say: once you have thawed and used the stock to cook a soup, you count the soup as a freshly made product and it can be safely frozen for later. So go for it… another time.

    Thin, there is so much more I can do with my new fridge than take things out and eat them! (Of course I am loving doing that!).
    I can also put things in it!
    Or take things out of the freezer (celery soup and the last tamale pie) and put them in the fridge to thaw for tomorrow!
    Or fill an ice tray to be ready for Friday.
    Just about to take a bit of fish out to thaw for my miso soup.
    Isn’t life wonderful!

    I hope my tomatoes are as yummy as yours. The one I picked wants to ripen a little more.

    Rosy Posy, I agree that bmi is a good tool, along with waist measurement. I knew you were doing all the sensible things for your bones!
    Many of us find maintenance involves a lot mental activity: do we stop 5:2, go to 6:1, go to 800 cals on fast days, skip the occasional fast day? We try things and find out how well it works. I think it was as I was reaching maintenance that Thin said she found 5:2 for maintenance was pretty much the same as 5:2 for losing weight, and that is what I have found too. Your time will come!

    Hmm, four hours until miso soup time. Cheers all.

    Hi SH friends

    I’ve read all your posts as far back as we can and have so many thoughts and congratulations and commiserations but have my Dad here today so this is just a quick post to say hi. I cant wait to go back to work so I have more time!

    Sunday 8.30pm. Tucked in bed with a cuppa tea at the mo. Today’s temp was in the high 20s so quite pleasant indeed.

    Should have spent the day painting but had no motivation to paint at all so instead spent 3 hours pottering in the garden this morning which was wonderfully healing after being stuck under the air conditioning for the last week.

    The afternoon was just as pleasant- a few glasses of red while lying on the lounge on the front verandah in the cool breeze reading a book. Oh that’s how Sundays should be spent, it was so relaxing.

    Interesting to read of the various family concerns amongst our group. I am one of 4 siblings and only have contact with one brother. My mother never contacts me or accepts my invitations to take her to lunch or for coffee (when she will go when my siblings ask her) so I now pay her a brief visit once a fortnight just out of courtesy really. I have no relationship at all with my other siblings and their children (my nieces and nephews) since my father passed nearly 2 years ago. It bothered me at first but not anymore….life goes on without them.

    So excited to hear there is a new MM book. Hoping I can order it on the internet….Will go searching now.

    After a successful avoidance of weight gain over Christmas, I’ve just had my two worst eating days since starting the 5:2 at the end of November. Aagh!! Just haven’t felt well, too much heavy gardening, and probably affected by the antibiotics – for ear infection, but finished them tonight. I’m looking on tomorrow as a re-boot FD.

    LJoyce, yes, walking is so much nicer when it’s cooler. Also, now the craziness of the post-Christmas shopping is settling, the shopping malls aren’t quite so crowded. You mentioned re-freezing thawed chicken broth – I agree with RosyPosy and Cinque – ONLY if you cook it very thoroughly before re-freezing. Otherwise any bacteria can start growing, and for some reason, thawing then re-freezing can accelerate their growth unless you’ve killed them off with high and long enough heat.

    GDayfromSA – have you tried shade cloth to protect some of your plants? It’s the only way I keep my azalea & gardenia through the really hot days. Although, it’s warmer where you are than Melbourne, so may not work(?).

    Quacka, my sympathy re your noisy neighbour. Has anyone thought of offering to help him do his whipper-snipping? If he’s elderly, it really may be hard for him to do more than short spurts at a time. I’m finding I rest more as I do tasks now in a way I wouldn’t have needed to when I was younger (sigh!).

    LindsayL, what a lovely experience feeding the deer in the Dublin park! May you have many more such moments of enjoyment during your holiday.

    Cinque – glad your nee fridge is up and running!

    Rosy Posy, Can anyone know what is the “right” weight? I think comments from others on this thread are so sensible; your body will tell you when you’ve reached the “right” weight. On the other hand, just try to ignore the well-wishing busybodies who try to tell you you’ve lost enough.

    thinatlast, how inspiring your story is to me. Having lost and regained weight a few times over the years, it’s good to know that this is something I can also do and it will last. My highest weight ever was about 88 kg, and that’s where I always say – no higher! I can usually get down easily to 85kg (where I started at the end of November), then work my way down from there. I’m 82.2kg now, but I’m really short (154cms now, was 156 when younger) so my BMI is only just under 35. I need to be at least below 59kgs for my BMI to be 25. Usually, people start noticing and commenting (and giving me food to eat – sabotage!!! And I also self-sabotage then) when I get to around 70 kgs, so I need to get past that hurdle. That will start to happen around May-June so I need to develop strategies to keep on keeping on from now, and through that time. Any helpful insights, suggestions, support from you or anyone else on this forum will be gratefully received.

    Thanks Betsylee for your advice. I agree wholeheartedly. I have been trying on outfits for NYE party and although I am a size 12 now, I still feel a tad rounded around the hips and bum which makes me in the pear category ( my waist Is my smallest part). I admire the apple shapes which look great in jeans as they have small thighs and bums. Hopefully I will be small in that area in 10 kgs time. I should have been born in the last century ! As they say, first on, last off !

    Hi Rosy Posy, I’m also a pear, though have gathered a spare tyre with age, as well. I think you should just take advantage of your best features, and swish those hips in style!!! 🙂

    Good morning! 6.30am in Sydney and forecast to be a little cooler today. Only 32

    I’m on the Maxx early shift so my post may be fragmented as I try to keep him amused whilst typing away.

    Hi Rosy Posy, welcome! Maxx is our crazy Labrador puppy – all 43 kilos of him – and his antics keep us amused (or in my case exasperated!). He is very much an early morning dog so on weekends, holidays and WFH days my hubby and I take it in turns to get up and let the other have a sleep-in.

    I too am pear shaped. Even when I was at my biggest I always had pins in the waistband of my pants but my hips, behind and legs are big. When I lose weight I lose it from my chest and waist – the two places I don’t need to! And of course when it used to go back on it goes on the bits I don’t want it to. I’ve been doing 5:2 for about 3 months and love it. Have had several blips on the way and have only lost about 4.5 kilos but that plus another 5 I lost earlier this year doing weight watchers has given me a great 2018. I still need to lose 15-20 but I know this will happen during 2019 because of this great WOE/WOL.

    I will post later, Maxx is crying at the top of the stairs so he needs my attention. Back soon!

    Ok, pupster is happily eating a frozen Kong which is the best dog invention ever. It is made from heavy duty rubber and is cone shaped and hollow with a large opening at one end and a tiny one at the other. You plug the small hole with a smear of peanut butter then fill the Kong with something – we blend up cooked carrot or cooked frozen peas, or mashed banana – and freeze it. It gives you a good 20 minutes of peace as he licks away at it

    Sorry to hear you haven’t been well BetsyLee and I’m sure you will have a good FD today to get rid of any excess

    Hi Lindsay, so great to hear from you! Sorry about the jet lag and I hope it is better now. The area you are staying in sounds amazing

    Cinque, have a great FD and enjoy pottering and your new fridge/freezer. I hate to think what mess is behind mine so I just won’t think about it!

    Your Sunday sounded perfect Gday and glad you are now able to enjoy your precious time off without the awful heat. Sorry to hear about that you have family woes too. I have one sister and we are very different. We catch up at obligatory family events a couple of time a year but that’s it and it is enough. I love her three kids and my 5 month old great-niece, but again we only catch up at these events. My Dad is 93 and still lives independently. My sister and I cook his meals but otherwise he is perfectly ok to look after himself. He comes over to our place every week for a meal and a chat. My darling Mum passed away just over 7 years ago. I was very close to her and my sister is very close to my Dad

    Your tomatoes sound amazing Thin! Our little cherry tomatoes are just starting to turn red so we will have some soon. I make a nice dish with them – I make spiced chicken meatballs the cook them in the fry pan whilst cooking the tomatoes in the oven for 8 minutes until they are just starting to burst. They go into the pan with the meatballs and some stock and then add some cooked penne pasta. It is a nice light Italian dish without cream, cheese or butter or other heavy ingredients that often go into that cuisine.

    Thin I loved your comment ‘it took me three years to accept that I was a slim person, not a fat person who had lost weight’. I am really looking forward to experiencing that myself.

    Just to prove how good this WOL is, I had two back-to-back very controlled NFD’s and this morning the scales tell me that I have lost the 600g I put on due to the dinner party plus another 200g! So I am now 200g lighter than I was on the 3rd of December and my silly season challenge was to be lighter on the 3rd January than 3rd December. HOWEVER….tonight we are having friends over and there will be all the usual temptations so whilst I will try to be controlled I know I will overeat. So then I need another two controlled NFD’s to make sure I reach my silly season goal.

    Hope you had a nice FD LJ and glad it’s a bit cooler for you now.

    Quacka, you do NOT sound like a b. Not even remotely. You have tried to hard and you still love your sister but she is not doing her share in the relationship. Please please put it all behind you and concentrate on your life, your OH and your friends and enjoy yourself.

    Hi to everyone I haven’t mentioned, have a great day all!!

    Last night I ordered MM new book via Booktopia. Its not released until 4th Jan so not too long to wait. Will be another quiet New Years, I’m usually tucked up in bed by 10pm at the latest….lol

    Good morning lovely ones.
    New Year’s Eve! Where did 2018 go?

    Dr Mosley is tweeting like anything. He is a brilliant publicist. Publishing his book just in time for everyone’s New Year Resolutions. He says the new website will be up within a week, so maybe we won’t see the flood of new people here that we usually see in the New Year.

    He mentioned (as an interesting thing he had read) ‘intermittent dieting’ where you diet for two weeks and then don’t diet for the next two weeks, and repeat.

    And he linked this article about BREAKFAST: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6538619/Dr-MICHAEL-MOSLEY-skipping-breakfast-not-bad-all.html

    My fast day was a lovely one yesterday. And yes, I am enjoying the wonderful morning after.

    Gday I am SO glad you got a cooler day and could spend it as Sundays should always be spent! Next Sunday you might be lying back reading Dr M’s new book!

    Betsy, you are right about cooking that soup (from thawed stock) thoroughly.
    Commiserations on those two bad-eating days. As you say, a fast day will reboot you. Hopefully those bingey days will get further apart and less calorie laden as you go.
    I know the fear of undermining yourself, but I think it helps that the trajectory of weight loss tends to get slower as we get closer to our healthy weight. This means we have more time to get used to our new shapes, and noticing how it effects our relationships or anything it brings up for us, or what our new clothes sense feels like. We have all the time in the world to get used to it. That really helped me.

    You pear shaped people can rejoice that your smaller waists indicate that you are carrying less of the dangerous visceral fat! Swish those hips!
    But isn’t it true, Rosy, first on, last off. Fascinating how those places can differ widely.

    Anzac, ooh it is hard when 32 feels lovely and cool. But I am glad it does! Enjoy your day! Hooray for frozen kong!

    Have a good day everyone!

    9am Monday, Adelaide

    Good morning SHs, glad most of you are enjoying the milder weather – me too.

    Rosy, Betsy & Anzac, Like you my waist is always the smallest measurement, although my body shape is an hourglass rather than a pear. Rosy I have the same issues with jeans – in my case it’s the size of my thighs which make it really tough to find jeans that fit – all too often they are swimming around my waist and stretched so tight around my legs they look like they’ve been painted on! I have found a small number of pairs that work (all from op shops). A friend of mine has said I should look in Jeans West when they are having a sale as they apparently have a style that is specifically cut for a curvy shape – next time I get desperate for jeans that fit I might do that.
    As Cinque said this body shape has it’s advantages as it minimizes the dangerous visceral fat. I’ve always thought that my body shape helped me avoid many of the diseases associated with obesity, despite decades being morbidly obese.

    Cinque, The idea of intermittent dieting is an intriguing one.
    I can imagine that working for those on the BSD where they are on only 800cals every day – perhaps interspersing that with 2 weeks on 5:2 (to keep weight stable) might make life a bit easier. The hard thing would definitely be not overdoing it on the 2 weeks off – otherwise you just lose and regain the same few kilos.

    GDSA, I’ll be very pleased to hear your review of MMs book when you get it. If they are favourable I might invest myself.
    I’m also very pleased to hear you finally got some decent weather. I think a bit of gardening sounds just like the right thing to do in those circumstances – I wouldn’t want to be inside painting either.

    Anzac, thanks for the meatball and cherry tomato idea – I am picking more than I can get through each day at the moment.

    Betsylee, we all have days of poor food choices, I’m sure your FD will give you the reboot you need. I always feel it’s a bit like a circuit breaker when my eating is spiraling out of control.

    Thanks for all the feedback on refreezing stock. It means I can turn some of my excess veg into soups ready for autumn. By the time I added a few veg and the konjac to the chicken noodle soup last night I had nearly 2 litres! I had a huge bowl as my only meal for the day but there is still a lot left. I will either keep it for Wednesday’s FD of perhaps freeze it – now that I know I can.

    Those of you on the SSC forum will already know that I’ve wrapped up my December challenge. I am pleased to report that I didn’t gain weight this December – I lost 1.5kg. I also tracked my exercise for the month and although I average about 300 minutes (5hrs) a week I do it really erratically. (I do much more when the weather is nice and far less when it’s hot.) This December felt much easier than last December and I didn’t add any extra FDs this year. In December 2017 I did 4:3 most weeks and still only just managed to maintain my weight over December. It proves to me that 5:2 is enough and the extra FDs just give me an excuse or a trigger to eat more on the NFDs.

    I’m having a quiet start to the day, trying to get plenty of fluids onboard so the nurse can find my veins more easily. She’s due at noon today to do my infusion (it was actually due last week but was postponed until today). Needless to say I won’t be celebrating NYE, I doubt I’ll be awake as the medication always makes me very tired.

    Have a nice NYE, those of you who are celebrating and thank you all so much for your support and friendship this year.

    MissD and I have just come back from a 30 min walk with the pooch. Although the new shed is not quite finished the treadmill is in there so I’m off now for some HI running then I will put the new weight bench together. It’s been collecting dust, unopened in its box in the car shed for probably 6 months now and I’ve decided today is the day to fully set up the gym and get back into daily exercise

    Hi everyone.

    Gday, glad you’re getting some relief from that terrible heat. I’m so sorry to hear about your chickens though. I too would have thought that wetting them down with the hose would have kept them cool enough. The frozen water jugs might work in the future. The weather conditions all over the world seem to be involved with this climate change. There has certainly been a lot of extreme weather.

    Rosy, you can just pick a weight where you think you will look and feel good and then adjust if needed when you get there. Don’t worry when your heavy friends think you’ve lost too much. Sometimes they’re just jealous that you are able to do what they can’t. (Or won’t.) Our bodies change as we age so what may have looked good in high school, might look a lot different now. You’ll know. I think my original goal was 60kg but when I got there it seemed like somewhere in the 58’s was better.

    Betsy, sorry to hear about your ear infections and the antibiotics. Some types can really do a number on our good intestinal flora while they kill the bad bugs. I usually try and take a probiotic once the antibiotics are finished, or eat fermented foods or those high in good bacteria, like kefir or yogurt. That can help a lot if you’re feeling under the weather. Or maybe it’s just overdoing the gardening and you’ll feel better in a day or two. Exercise is usually a positive.

    Cinque, I saw that Fast 800 book. It’s not available here yet. While I like the 500 calorie version of 5:2, I think the book would be interesting to read. 500 calories took long enough when I got down to the last several kgs. I may have gotten discouraged if it had taken even longer. But for anyone struggling with 500 calorie FDs, it might mean the difference between doing it or not.

    GDSA, sounds like you are getting ready for a few new year resolutions. Enjoy the new gym, you’ve certainly had to wait long enough for it to be ready.

    Cali, I agree about the weight loss being fairly slow on 500 cal FDs and can only imagine what it would have been on 800cal. I’ve been reading some of the online info provided by the publisher though, and it looks like MM isn’t recommending that people do just 2 days on 800 cal. This is their bio of the book:

    “Six years ago, Dr Michael Mosley started a health revolution with The 5.2 Fast Diet, telling the world about the incredible power of intermittent fasting.
    In this book he brings together all the latest science (including a new approach: Time Restricted Eating) to create an easy-to-follow programme.
    Recent studies have shown that 800 calories is the magic number when it comes to successful dieting – it’s an amount high enough to be manageable but low enough to speed weight loss and trigger a range of desirable metabolic changes.
    Depending on your goals, you can choose how intensively you want to do the programme: how many 800-calorie days to include each week, and how to adjust these as you progress.
    Along with delicious, low-carb recipes and menu plans by Dr Clare Bailey, The Fast 800 offers a flexible way to help you lose weight, improve mood and reduce blood pressure, inflammation and blood sugars.”
    https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/The-Fast-800/Michael-Mosley/9781760850180

    It sounds like he’s introducing eating windows and a flexible number of FDs to go along with the 800cal. From reading the bio from a few book sellers it also looks like he’s sticking with a Mediterranean-style approach to eating that he started with the BSD.

    I also found this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oannxp_dMSQ
    Which indicates that MM did an experiment on himself for the book, by deliberately regaining some weight and then losing it on the new Fast800 program – I feel nervous even thinking about deliberately gaining weight.

    The new website for the new book looks like it’s online now: https://thefast800.com

    Hi everyone,

    Thank you dveryone for your kind wishes, prayers, and thoughts for us as Mr M and I have headed back into rocky terrain.

    Hi penguin and Mrs P, we’ve sort been off the planet for a bit. Thank you for your message. It’s been a jolt but we’re getting there. Miss you both.

    Hope all are well, and had a lovely Christmas.

    Well.. don’t know quite what to say…. this is the first day I’ve had the time to draw a breath since my last post 3 weeks ago, a kaleidescope and roller-coastet of events, people, happening good and not so good, that doesn’t need elaborating or burdening you with. Suffice to say we had a lovely Christmas Day with our children and grandchildren which was not marred by any of the challenges. The food was lovely, Xmassy, the main protein ham and prawns, which come in slightly under 100cals/100gms, lots of interesting salads, a few Xmas specialties, pudding, a few nuts, pavlova, cherries, and a bit of stone fruit, blueberries, strawberries, watermelon.

    We’ve taken turns driving and sleeping 3000ish kms, caught up with various wider family members, and close friends. Now at home prepping for the next week which includes a bit more of the same, then it will be time for me to drop everything and commit to my long term project and ir’s completion over the next 3 months.

    Check-in:
    After some initial fluffing around I did:
    * FDs on Christmas Eve and 27th,
    * 28th healthy eating day plus a little Christmas cheer with dinner
    * 29th no breakfast small healthy lunch, scratch dinner on the road of bits and pieces we’d taken with us
    * yesterday, no breakfast, funny circumstances over some visits on way home meant we ended up not having a proper meal at any point – much talking about important things happening for so many in 2018 – seems to have been an “annus horribulus” for so many people, and the exact opposite for the others, or both simultaneously. We fell into bed exhausted when we made it home in the a.m.

    Kgs: 3weeks ago was 66.5kg – up after weeks of a health mad scramble and learning curve. Travel scales broke, not taken, decided to wing it.
    Result: 65.0kg – I’ve lost 1.5kgs! Yay! Didn’t set out to lose any, but things like a 1hour afternoon teawith a slice of Christmas cake turning into 4hrs, with another slice of cake replacing dinner, was a situation where the talk was very important, the food quite unnecessary and we all forgot about anyway.
    So…….. there’s the result, unplanned loss of 1.5kgs.

    Must go. My apologies for the hit and miss, mostly miss thing lately.

    Have a lovely, lovely New Year everyone.
    Merry and Mr M.
    Xx

    Minka, given that you didn’t even have travel scales you did amazingly well. That’s a great loss over Christmas.
    I continue to hope for better year for you and a very successful outcome to Mr M.’s treatment.

    Hi guys, can Ivtell you that I hate my scales !!, After 3 days of fluid only fasting and an hour of exercise each day, I jumped on my scales expecting my virtue to be rewarded but no! Same weight as day 2 of my 3 day fast ! Does that mean I,ve slowed my metabolism down too much by fasting 3 consecutive days? I was soooo hoping to be in the 60’s and thought I deserved it too ! Have any of you experienced this ?

    California dreamer: thanks for your great advice re goal weight when you’re older.

    LJoyce, my intention when I reach goal is to go to Lorna Jeans and my some stretchy bootalicious workout pants. Apparently these ones lift, compress your butt cheeks.

    Anzac: thanks for the welcome! I like the stretchy pants Katies and Suzanne Grae sell which fit my waist and stretch over my bum. I was looking at some jogging there the other day and held up a medium to look at. I nearly fainted when the shop assistant said, they’ll be too big for you, you,ll need a small. ( I’m a tall 171 cm).

    Betsy Lea, I know what you mean about cracking 70!.

    Today is NYE party day so no fasting. I e been dreaming about the Xmas ham but guess what? When I ate some, I didn’t enjoy it and have thrown the whole lot out ! That’s a weird change for me, the fantasy was better than the reality !

    Rosy,
    I’m all admiration for anyone who can do 3 FDs in a row, let alone fluids only. If you haven’t eaten and the scales haven’t changed then it’s because your body is hanging onto some of that fluid you drank yesterday – it’s imposible for it to be anything else (unless you eat in your sleep and don’t remember it). I think one of the many reason that scales and I don’t along is the lack of logic.

    I usually resort to either using tight fitting jeans or a tape measure to track progress.

    Actually my tape measure is a really good indicator of changes in body fat, muscle tone and inflammation, because I also measure areas that will pick that up. After tracking this for few years I’ve figured out which changes seem to relate to what’s actually causing the weight increase or decrease.
    What my body measurements tell me are:
    Waist is the best indicator of body fat changes for me and usually also shows changes in muscle tone on my torso,
    Hips/abdomen will pick up fluid retention that relates to hormone fluctuations (I suspect if you are prone to it, it would show a change due to constipation too),
    Knee measurements pick up inflammation (extra fluid around the joints) – this one is probably unique to me as I have rheumatoid arthritis,
    Upper abdomen (halfway between the bust and waist) will pick up the glycogen and extra fluid that has been recently stored due to a sugar/starch binge. If I’ve really overdone it then this will show up on my bust measurement too.
    I suspect that this guide won’t work on other body shapes but it’s been a much more reliable guide for me than the scales because it gives me more specific data not just a single number.
    When it comes to my weight, the measurement I really don’t want to see increasing is my waist – that usually means I have body fat to shift – a much harder task than shifting water or glycogen.
    The other guide I like is the pinch test – I do them along the side and front of my torso and they also help me judge both weight and muscle tone. I love it when there are areas that I cannot manage to pinch any skin together at all – unfortunately there are always a few that I can.

    Thanks LJoyce, you were spot on ! It was constipation, as I have had several serious toilet visits since weighing and could also be fluid retention as the bouillon is quite salty. I also have one knee more swollen than the other. I don’t have a tape measure but now will get one.

    Hi everyone

    Just caught up on the posts.

    Yesterday we had a really busy day. Went fishing in the morning and then spent several hours making tomato sauce and pickled jalapeños. OH helped me so it made the job much easier than usual which was nice. We had two huge baskets of Roma tomatoes to make into sauce (when I say sauce I mean a sauce for cooking with, like in casseroles or bolognaise). That’s a lot of grating and cooking down and then cleaning up! Then we had lots of jalapeños to pickle, which involves slicing them all up and of course sterilising the jars. I took some photos so I can post for you all to see.

    Today we went for a drive down the coast again. It’s been a nice day but just still feeling tired from all the hoo hah of the last couple weeks.

    We will be having a quiet NYE and most probably will be asleep to see the New year in. Someone always lets off fireworks or something so maybe we will be awake lol

    Still weighing around the same weight as start of December. The day after my last FD I was in the 66s. I’m in the 67s now but still hovering between 67.4 and 67.6kg and I’m happy with that. I haven’t had a real FD for a while but have been very careful what I am eating. I still have that big wheel of Camembert in the fridge that I bought to replace the small one I ate before it was even close to Christmas so we will see if I can say that again next post!
    thin, the lower alcohol, lower calorie beer is not too bad at all.

    Thank you again everyone for your support regarding my family.

    More importantly, thank you so much for your support, knowledge and encouragement and being there for me in my weight loss journey. Looking forward to another successful year ahead and I hope it is the same for all of you too.
    I hope everyone enjoys their new year celebrations and all the best for 2019.

    Happy New Year friends xx

    https://imgur.com/a/9R7aAjv

    We will be making a big beef casserole with one of those bags of tomato sauce tomorrow. I can’t wait 😄

    I got behind having read a lot of posts but not replying during the day yesterday. I will just jump in here and there – apologies to anyone I’ve missed, I’m not ignoring you, it’s just not worth belabouring some of the points again when you’ve already moved on.

    Rosy, I wasn’t going to comment about your 3 FDs in a row because you have already coped very well without us for the first 14 kgs and you weren’t asking for advice anyway. In light of your more recent post, I will just say that I would tend to abandon the 3 FDs before I’d abandon the scales. I know you wanted a kickstart but this has to be sustainable and I can’t help but feel this is likely to dampen your enthusiasm in the long-term scheme of things. Honestly, being at maintenance is boring so don’t be in a hurry to get here – all you need is a nice steady downward trend. It matters not how long it takes (unless your weight is threatening your life, which it isn’t). The other thing is that, if you do continue with the scales, you will very likely see a drop the day after the day after the fast day. So, don’t lose heart. And have fun at your party tonight!

    I saw the suddenly prolific ‘tweets’ from Dr M. on the right column of this page and wondered what was going on. I started following them but he lost me when he bizarrely started tweeting about Trump. I have always found it very strange that people could in any way be influenced in politics by the opinions of, say, American celebrities such as actors. Dr M. is my health hero, has changed my life but his politics are totally irrelevant to me. Apart from all that, ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ so I will be sticking with my trusty 5:2 using one quarter/TDEE.

    Merry, massive congratulations to you for losing weight at this very difficult time. It sounds like your family has been a delight to you during the health issues faced my Mr M. I wish you both the best for 2019.

    Quacka, I hope you soon feel relaxed and can put the pesky behaviour of the family members behind you. Glad that low cal beer worked out well for you!

    GDSA, did we already know that you had a pooch? That’s the sort of fact I would normally remember. What is he/she?

    LJ, Minka, Cinque, I replied to you on the SSC this morning so I’m just saying hi to you.

    Betsy, I redeemed myself at bridge this morning. It is as you said, ups and downs. And lots of fun. This morning’s session signals a return to normality in a way. And our club has a new carpet, new bidding cards and new playing cards so it all smelled and looked clean and fresh.

    Hi Anzac, Arel, CalifD, Penguin and Lindsay.

    Happy New Year to everyone on this delightful thread. Thank you for being here. Checking out of 2018 at 59.7kg which is exactly 1kg lighter than this time last year. Cue fireworks!

    Hi Thin, heartfelt thanks and appreciation for your thoughtful advice, please keep it coming. You guys are the experienced , knowledgeable ones and I am just learning the ropes. I need all the advice I can get as I am now in the final third of my weight loss journey. I imagine that the last kg are the hardest to lose. This non fast day is unusual in that I’m not craving anything and am not so interested in food. As I said before I had a bite of the Xmas ham and then threw the rest of it out. Is this normal ? Hub and I got up at 5am to take visiting rallies back to the airport . We had eggs Benedict and coffee as a treat and that’s about all I’ve eaten. Just resting up so I can stay up until midnight at the NYE party.
    Well done Thin for being one kg lighter than this time last year. How tall are you? I read in the Fast Diet bookthat Mimi Spencer has gone from an ok bmiof 21.4 to a mile of 19.4 !

    Hello all.

    Merry it is good to hear from you again. It sounds as though you have been very busy. To someone in as small a country as this, the distances you drive sound enormous. An unplanned weight loss is always welcome! Good luck with the project.

    The dog chat on this site reminds me of some of the mutts I have lived or worked with. I have been without one for a few years, but there are three around the family and they all greet me with enthusiasm in the firm belief that the purpose of my visit is to take them for a walk.

    The last day of the year is just starting here. This morning I will go to the gym for the last quiet session. The first few weeks of the year it will be full of people working off their New Year resolutions. The regular users make them welcome, but we know it won’t last. Thats fine – they pay their membership fee for a year which subsidises ours, then they go away. Not that mine is high – I get the geriatric rate.

    Today is also day one of a two day b2b fast. It being the New Year it won’t be a total water only fast. Some of the traditions of my youth have to be observed but I did sign up for the Silly Season Challenge and even if I stretch that to 3 Jan as has been suggested we are close to that final weigh in.

    Morning all … or evening, depending on where you are.
    We arrived in Castlewellen in Northern Ireland mid-afternoon yesterday, to an old farmhouse that’s been restored as an Air BnB. It is wonderful. A long way from the village, and is still a working farm (although it’s now leased). The owner’s father, at 89, was killed at a horse show a couple of years ago, and the family has kept the house, which was built by the owner’s grandfather. Its wonderful … a formal dining room and living room off a central hall, with steps going up to bedrooms on both sides of the steps. The little girls are in seventh heaven….and they actually slept for the first time in beds of their own, in one room. They’re not great sleepers so for them both to go through the night is a bit of a miracle. But it’s quiet, dark, cosy and it was about time!
    This house has everything we could want for a week in the country – now, we just need some snow.
    Cinque, how perfectly wonderful to have a new fridge to start the new year. May it always be filled with good things.

    LJ we are having 10 days in Ireland before our Scottish leg. We are here in the countryside for a week. My DD wanted her little girls to have a different experience from being in cities. They are beside themselves with excitement. (me too, btw).

    Also good for OH to have this experience….he struggles a bit in unfamiliar terrain, because of the sight issue. He’s unable to get better glasses, which is tough. He also was told before we left that he can never swim again, because of the drain in his eye. That I think was the hardest news of all, because he loves it. His doctor was shocked to find that when he had the original operation in 1992, no-one told him he couldn’t swim, because of the significant risk of infection. He doesn’t complain though – on the drive up he commented what a good year it had been, all things considered. Now that’s stoic, I think.

    LJ to drop your BMI from 50 to under 30 is just brilliant. You have changed your life. Rosy, Betsy and Anzac, I haven’t heard much mention of BMI (or body shapes) before on this site, so they are interesting topics for discussion. I am a classic apple. Deep trunk and big stomach, but good legs and backside. As soon as I put on weight (or lose it), it’s the front of the trunk that sheds it first, and my chin. Even if I maintain my weight, when I give up carbs, that area flattens quickly.

    I know I have missed a lot of posts, but the family is ready to go for a walk and I haven’t even had a shower. I’ll check back in later, if I can find a quiet moment, but if not, I’d like to wish you all the very best for 2019. I’ve learned a lot from you all, and you’ve given me such support during the troubled times with my OH’s health. I’m looking forward to continuing your friendship next year.
    x from me, and Mr L.

    Last day of 2018, NSW, Australia
    ~ 10pm Monday

    🎉🎶🎆Wishing each and every one of you a wonderful New Year’s Eve celebration and hope 2019 will be everything you wish for. Enjoy your tomorrow, then every day after. Love to all you special people & thank you for all your support and understanding in 2018.💖🎶 xx

    Happy, healthy 2019 to all!

    Rosy, I hope you had a great night and that the scales are the same as yesterday (because that would be akin to a weight loss after a party). Could you see the fireworks from where you were? It got chilly at the river and our group decided to come home around 10.30am. We stayed up to watch glimpses of the fireworks from our upstairs window but didn’t bother with any alcohol. I can’t offer any insights into that marathon 3 day fast of yours (I’ve never even attempted B2B) but I do note that I am rarely hungry the morning after a single FD.

    Lindsay, thanks for checking in. What a great time you’re having in Ireland. Creating fabulous memories with your family. Your OH must be a very positive gent to have considered it a good year in spite of all his vision challenges. It also says a lot about you I think.

    Anzac, I forgot to thank you for that idea of baking our tomatoes in the oven. I have a barramundi dish that requires baking tomatoes, onion and olive oil before adding the seared fish. I took the tomatoes to our picnic and my neighbours were positively raving about them. They couldn’t work out how the rats don’t eat them as none of them has any success with growing them. Also loved your account of Maxx enjoying his Kong – but that it only yields 20 minutes of peace for you!

    Arel hope we’ll hear from you this year. I miss you here.

    Penguin, I’m intrigued by what youthful NYE traditions you will be incorporating into your B2B fast! I’m in 2019 and just letting you know that it’s safe to come across. So true about the January gym recruits. We usually get a lot of new posters here too. We always welcome them and hope they’ll adopt our WOL but you can almost tell by what they write that some won’t be with us for long. Hats off to all of us for making it work because not everyone can. Having said that, I’m off to the SSC page to make my NYE confessions.

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