Hello Southern Hemispherites!!

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  • Hi Thin (and other SHs 😊)
    Just reading back, you say you’ve stopped eating Slendier noodles since finding konjak. Where do you get them? Asian providors? Cheers P

    Hi Purple, yes it’s from Asian grocers but you might have to ask – konyaku comes in a slab rather like tofu is sold in a liquid in the fridge section or in cute little ribbons in a commercial package. There’s a white variety or a brown speckled version which CM delightfully named pond scum.

    I’ve been meaning to drop a note on the MC thread all day to make sure that all of you east coasters have survived the wild weather. I hope all’s going OK for you and yours.

    Thanks Thin
    How do you use the “slab” of konjak? I still regularly use Slendier noodles. Last night was too cold for salad, so cooked leek, onion, capsicum, ginger, tumeric, garlic, bok choy and cubes of raw salmon. Tossed in angel hair Slendier noodles last minute. Very sayisfying fast meal.
    Our house copped a lot of huge winds and rain during the weekend. We spent hours and hours clearing stormwater drains, mopping up water coming in windows and under the house and removing masses of fallen tree branches. Somehow nothing was really damaged and we didn’t lose power. Sunny but cold today.
    Cheers P

    Ooh Purple that was a scary storm. So glad you got through it okay, it has been awful reading the reports of damage.

    The surf is still huge, Cinque, but then the great whites off WA aren’t much fun either. It’s a wild country alright! P

    That sounds bad Purple. But it’s good that you’re safe. I’m not too concerned about the sharks, unless they find a way to get onto the beaches, I’ll be OK!

    To use the slab, you slice off thin pieces and then cut them into noodle shapes/sizes. It lasts for ages in the fridge. Slendier Angel Hair is the one I still like to use as it’s hard to replicate anything that thin. Unfortunately, that’s the one that was discontinued in so many WA stores.

    Cinque, I think Merry’s right, you don’t really need more calories for winter but just more hearty recipes. Soups are so good – perhaps your miso is too thin for winter and you need to upgrade to something thicker. You know my solution.

    Thanks Thin.
    I agree, no extra calories in winter, but make sure you dress really warmly, move around and eat lots of bulky, hot, low cal foods. Miso in the afternoon, for the salt. Stirred tasty veg and a bit of protein for “dinner”.
    Keep warm. Keep on fasting. This is our 4th fasting winter (plus another 2 months in the UK at Xmas). Totally survivable!!! πŸ˜‰ P

    Okay gurus, how do you make more hearty recipes with no extra calories????

    A lovely day today, got a bit ahead! Two dresses from the Op Shop: Summer ones! Won’t I have fun next summer!

    Lots of flavour (onion, leek, garlic, chilli, ginger, lemon, lime .. not all at once!). Any low cal veg…mushrooms, tomatoes (including bought sugar free pasata), carrot, bok choy, celery, capsicum, cabbage, broccoli. Under 100g of fish (choose something really tasty. ..smoked salmon, haddock, or blue eye trevalla etc)
    Add some washed Slendier noodles and stir through. Flavour and lots of bulk, but not carbs..you don’t need potatoes, rice, pasta or bread to fill you up. Believe me, I’m married a total convert. ☺ P

    Cinque, I can’t remember whether you’re a vegetarian? If not, go to our recipe page https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/southern-hemispherites-fd-recipes/
    and try some of my favourite ‘hearty’ meals between 200-300 cals. Hearty root and barley soup 259 cals; Chicken & bacon casserole 249 cals; Spicy butternut soup 187 cals; Spanish Fideos (with the Slendier Angel Hair) 142 cals and a range of Spanish tortillas (butternut, asparagus, etc at around 200 cals).

    I’ve felt really cold the past two days too. Both days, I walked 10 km but just couldn’t get warmed up despite keeping a very warm house. FD tomorrow and I’ll be cooking up something hearty and nourishing. Agree Purple, potatoes, pasta, rice & bread are almost a thing of the past for me.

    On my walk yesterday, there was an event in the city (WA Day) and I was astonished to see so many overweight young families lined up at food vans by 10am – much of the food was barely recognisable, nachos maybe, not sure, but lots of things in enormous buns with sauces spilling off the edge. I’m like one of those reformed smokers but for food – although I’m sure I never ate like that – I just wanted to set up a 5:2 stand and scream it out that we don’t have to live like this. On the upside, I’ve started someone else on 5:2 who’s thrilled to have lost 2.5 kgs in her first 3 weeks.

    Thanks Thin,
    But I’d argue that adding 200 – 300 calories is still adding calories! πŸ˜‰

    The soups I make are a similar kind, so I’m sure I won’t be ballooning out of control because I have an extra serve of soup in the day! But I’ll let you know if I do!

    Purple, I am lucky that I can cope with complex carbs very well. Every time I think it isn’t fair that I can’t stomach sugar, even fruit, I think how lucky I am that I am fine with foods that many here have to avoid.

    Cinque, the important thing is reducing blood sugar spikes. Nothing to do with being diabetic, simply that insulin causes the body to store fat. That is why sugar and starchy foods are vital to avoid on fast days. It gives your body a break from insulin. Fast as long as possible, then fill up with very low gi, tasty, warm food. Simple.
    Keep warm folks. P

    Oh dear Purple, I must come across as someone who doesn’t understand nutrition, low GI and the point of fasting, but please be assured that I am doing ok.

    I’m sure you do know, Cinque. 😊
    Busy watching Q and A and reading the forum 😯, poor concentration.
    Have you read Jason Gung’s blog or The Obesity Code? Excellent stuff.
    Must concentrate on Barnaby and Tony πŸ˜‚πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜‚ P

    Hi everyone,
    re “pond scum”. Slab – I’ve diced it quite small and added it to soups. I thought the Slendier noodles were a brand of konyaku noodles, just different products available in different areas or online. Have just checked the pantry for brands etc. Chang ‘s Wok Ready Noodles – just normal noodle size, from a usual supermarket, Coles from memory. Also have Konnysof High Fibre Thread – little bundles of noodles, from a AsianThai grocery/small supermarket. Had to laugh, I had 1 pkt of pondscum left, and it’s now out of date and is no longer a jellied slab it’s broken down into more pond scummy pond scum! Hit the bin, of course. Anyway, bought it at the same small Asian supermarket, but it’s covered in Japanese kanji (?) characters and I can’t find an actual brand name. Need to clean out the pantry and find what else is lurking there!

    I don’t remember having any problems last winter. I think strong tastes are probably the way to go. For me right now it’s about stress. We’ve reached a stressful pointy bit of one of those long term stresses we’ve had going for 6 months and I’ve buckled a bit the last few days. My ‘hunger’ has upped considerably. I know it’s just an immediate stress response, so need to bring out all the anti stress measures daily. As part of that I think I need to make those no cal noodles a daily fillup to help me get through this week. My usual way of handling stress was keeping physical, and right now because of my injured leg, I can’t even do the reduced amount of walking I could do. Sorry, feeling quite down this evening. Need to get to sleep I think.

    Night all,
    Merry

    Sorry to hear that Merry. Hard to keep the spirits up when immobilized. I love your pond scum story. Sounds like a dish mum used to cook….my brothers called it ‘slop chops’, poor mum used to get very upset. ☺ P

    I’ll take that as a comment then Purple πŸ˜‰

    Merry, so sorry the stress events are back up again. I hope you can get a good restful sleep and then tomorrow is a new day, and hopefully an easier one.
    Being less active would mean you are feeling the cold more too, probably. I hope you come up with a wonderful strong tasting fill up!

    I need to get to sleep too! See you tomorrow!

    Sorry Cinque, I didn’t mean eat those dishes as well as your current regime – just as a winter menu alternative. It’s hard to get your point across in a post sometimes, especially for me as I always assume people know what I’m thinking. That’s why meeting for coffee is good. Where are you VDU?

    Merry, yes Slendier is konjac, a Japanese vegetable. It was JustJulie who alerted us to the fact that konyaku noodles were exactly the same thing available from Asian grocers in a less commercial form at a fraction of the price. Either way, it’s very filling and almost no calories – which renders it a sort of pointless food when you think of it like that – but then again, for those struggling a bit for whatever reason, it has its uses.

    Have a good rest. Chat tomorrow.

    Good morning,
    Cups of tea, last of three Non Fast days in a row!
    Home help is coming early today, I’ll have my coffee with her.

    Thin those recipes are wonderful and they do inspire me. I am a recipe junkie though, and not only have a wide range of things I am hanging out to make again, I have several exercise books full of recipes I have copied out because I want to make them (I get recipe books from the local libraries for night time reading) that I want to get around to.
    For a long time when I was ill these were the only books I could read (my concentration was shot) and I especially searched out simple healthy recipes that made as little washing up as possible (In my pre dishwasher days), and on the way I learnt so much of geography and history by reading books from all around the world.

    Here is home help. Catch you again soon.

    Hi Everyone
    Its been a while since I posted. I did try from work on Monday but I couldn’t get this site to open on work computer??! I did scroll thru to quickly read your posts and thanks for those who asked about me. I didn’t do too well last week and broke both my fasts after 5pm πŸ™ I also had a busy weekend with 3 meals with friends that included desserts and cheese platters as well as wine. I put on a kilo. My Monday fast went well but had a luncheon yesterday for a work colleague leaving to have a baby and then OH made dinner last night-2 courses with homemade pull apart bread!! We are also going camping this, long, weekend for 2 nights. Cooking big breakfasts over the fire. I need OH to get on board!! Tomorrow is a fast day for me, but Im going to have a boiled egg and veggie soup for lunch. Ill have my 500 calls thru out the day. I need to do that i think.

    Merryme, sorry your finding it a bit hard too. I will have konjac noodles too. We have gone back to eating more rice and mashed potatoes the last few weeks. Cinque I’ve been trying a few new recipes too from my collection. I have a β€˜Snap recipe’ app which ,when you take photos of recipes in magazines from doctors surgeries etc, you can file them for future use under all different headings. OH and I love it. It was $6.99 from memory and we dont have many apps we pay for but this was worth it. Thinatlast, you are good to walk so much. I work 3 days a week and am finding it hard to find time to walk the dog. Its also been so cold here in (outer) Melbourne. Good to see you posting here Purple. I love all your wise advise as you have done this lifestyle successfully for so long

    Good Morning all,

    I think I’ll be ordering some konnyaku rice and angel hair pasta online today. I need stuff in the frig/freezer I can go to whenever I get the stress eats. I was awake at 3am and ended up eating. I had thought I might bring my FD forward a day, because I’m either in 1 of 2 states today – either maybe eating too much or too stressed to eat, not sure how the day will unfold or whether eating in the early a.m. cruels a FD. Technically it would but will it in practice.

    Anyhoo, sorry to be a wet blanket today. I think I need a kick in the butt.
    Merry

    Thanks Judy. Hang in there; it’s what you do in the long term that counts and what you learn about yourself along they way re your relationship with food. Some people launch into 5:2 and don’t miss a beat, but we’re not all like that. We both just have to keepngetting back on the horse.

    Merry

    Good morning Merry, all power to you for getting through this day as lightly as you can manage. Your poor body is doing its best to help you cope with the stress, even if we wish it had a different strategy! You are doing your best.

    Judy, it is so difficult when 5:2 doesn’t fit well into your lifestyle. Those other priorities are making it so hard for you. Hopefully as you analyse them you will come up with a way to have fast days, and non fast days, that really work for you!
    1. How to get past the 5pm stress point
    2. How to deal with social events
    3. Getting OH on board πŸ˜‰
    As Merry says, keep on keeping on and you will get there!

    Your Snap Recipe app does sound wonderful! I so love reading about new foods and techniques!

    I bet it is freezing in the Yarra Valley! And now you are going camping! It will be acclimatise or die! Have fun, and just eat as much breakfast as you need! I bet it will be wonderful in the bush as long as you have your longjohns on! (And the rest!)

    Hi all, been MIA due to feeling off colour, miserable and feeling sorry for myself, but my troubles are nothing compared to you Merry. I am so sorry your stress levels are up again.

    Luckily the storm didn’t do much damage around here even though I am only about 20 mins from Camden and not much further to Picton where they have declared it a disaster area. I had some large poinsettia trees near my garage that keeled over and I had to cut them back before I could get the car out and the garage was flooded but luckily I have everything off the floor still it took ages to sweep out.

    Judyf you will eventually find your level, it is very hard in the beginning and winter is not conducive to watching what you eat with so many temptations about but we have all weathered it and it can be done. You just have to want to do it and we are not all like Thin and have that one track mentality.

    FD yesterday weight 71.6, this morning 70.1. Need to get back under that 70 so hopefully FD tomorrow will do it but it’s not a sure thing.

    Thin when do you go away?

    Nice so inspiring!.

    Hi all,

    I’ve been either walking or cooking all day and the whole time, pondering the posts I woke up to this morning. I’m sorry that things are not going well for some of you. When I was losing weight on 5:2, I found the maintainers really inspiring. Now in that position myself, I’m starting to believe I’m being more of an irritation than an inspiration. I wish I could come up with the words to make this work for everyone but I can’t think of anything useful to say because we are all so different. Which is actually where the strength of 5:2 lies.

    There’s no reason I can think of why this should work for me and not for someone else. No-one has had more ‘issues’ with food than I. I was an obsessive over-eater most of my adult life. Food controlled me. I comfort ate. I could intellectualise why I had the issues with food but I couldn’t change it. I had to have my ‘share’. I couldn’t bear to see my husband enjoying food and not have the same. I always served nutritious, healthy meals at home, but I’d eat anything outside the home, especially if it was free, and I never knew when to stop. I was greedy.

    Exercise has been a part of my daily life for the last 40 years including when I worked full-time. It’s not something I tried to fit into my day, it was and remains a vital part of my day. For a decade, I maintained a healthy weight with obsessive running until I damaged my knees from the effort. There are a lot of good reasons to exercise daily but I’ve come to realise that losing weight isn’t one of them. I look back on the absurdity of 20 years of expensive gym memberships, doing the same thing every day, year after year, all the while expecting a different result. Merry and Cinque are successful contributors who’ve demonstrated that we can lose weight through good food discipline even with minimal physical activity.

    I’ve mentioned before that fasting works well for me because I think I may have addictive tendencies. I seem to have replaced a food addiction with a fast addiction. The motivating factor being that it works! But like the diaphragm, it doesn’t work sitting in the bedside drawer. Another aspect of my personality that lends itself to this WOL is that I’m cynical. I’ve come to view food manufacturers as ‘the enemy’. They’re trying to sell me some rubbish that I don’t need and my job is to resist. Someone on this website taught me that if your grandmother wouldn’t recognise it, don’t buy it.

    If “Trust Me, I’m An Overweight Doctor” is to be believed, the foods that cause the spike in insulin are not the same for all of us. So, whilst restricting carbs might have worked for so many of us on these pages, it might not help everyone. But what I can say is doing the same thing and expecting a different result is pointless. So we have to ask ourselves, why do we want this? How badly do we want this? What are we prepared to do to make it work?

    Discussion? Have I made it worse?

    Thin as usual you are an inspiration. We all come from different places, mentally and physically. If you want it bad enough you will do it. There iare no ifs or maybes. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

    You know how much I struggled in those first few months but what kept me going was the encouragement and knowing other people were getting the results.

    I have now been doing this WOL for 69 weeks. Have had my overseas trip, holidays away etc but have still managed to lose 17kg. This is a no brainer if someone is serious about their health.

    We all have to find what works for us through trial and error. This forum is all about other peoples journeys not ours.

    I could not have done what you did but that’s is why we Are called individuals.

    Well done Thin.

    Im in the same boat thinatlast. I hope that I don’t offend (too often). I read some of the posts on the forum and say to myself…”No. What are you doing? Don’t do that”. But I bite my tongue and temper it down as I know that it may hinder rather than help. As the saying goes, its easy once you know how.

    Intesha, what are you talking about? You HAVE done it! And you did it with plenty more reasons to be using food as an emotional crutch than I had. The great results you achieved gave you confidence to fight all the crap that life kept throwing at you. You’re having your cake and eating it too! (Notwithstanding the garage flooding, what a pain).

    We leave at the end of the month. Standby for the inevitable anxiety and whinging about how I’ll manage travelling in four African countries without gaining weight…..maybe I should follow your lead and just enjoy it but I don’t relish the idea of returning 3-5kgs heavier and starting from behind.

    Bigbooty, that’s what I thought this morning so I said nothing. But then I couldn’t help thinking about what people had written. Not one to bite my lip I’m afraid (well maybe on a fast day). And Merry, at least, was asking us for a kick up the rear the other day.

    That was a brilliant post, Thin, and so interesting to read what you had to say. You’re definitely not an irritation, very much an inspiration! I’m reading as much as I can as the posts come in, but have been flat out working again for the last 2 weeks. I had one day off yesterday and meant to write a post but ran out of time… so hopefully tomorrow I’ll contribute properly, because there were a few things I’d wanted to say along the way… so will catch you all soon!

    It was a brilliant post Thin, you and the others who have successfully got to your target weight and still stay on the forum, are worth gold. The experience and perspective are so precious.

    You are so right that things can be take wrongly on forums, and people can be misheard or misread. I guess that not only do everyone’s bodies work a bit differently, and lives play out differently, histories are different and everyone has their own psychology. Add stress and the limitations of getting to know people just from posts, and it is amazing that we all communicate as well as we do. I think you are particularly good at being clear and understanding, which makes you doubly precious here.

    I am sorry for being difficult myself!
    But on the bright side, that is sometimes devastating, I tried on a woollen dress I bought a few months ago that has been gradually looking better and better on me. It looked the best yet. But a sudden thought, I went and got the glorious gold and orange silk skirt that fitted me at the end of Summer but I didn’t get an occasion to wear it. Yep, it is sliding down. I think I will never wear it. 5:2 is just too good! πŸ™ πŸ™‚

    Intesha, your story is such a triumph. Can I ask you what the difficult things were for you in the first three months, and what were the insights that helped you then?

    I am minding my dear little granddaughter overnight, it took ages to get her to bed, and now I just want to go to bed myself! Fast day tomorrow. Unprepared. πŸ™ eep.

    Best wishes everyone.

    FD today weight this morning 70.1.

    Cinque briefly, I lost my extremely well paid job early 2013 at the age of 62. My mother was diagnosed with Dementia and I was travelling back and forwards to QLD to help my Dad who was trying to cope and in denial. No hope of getting a job and no money coming in except Newstart allowance which was a pittance. No large super payout as I had only been working 15 years since my divorce and I was renting. Sold and packed up my parents house, bought Dad back to Sydney to live with me and had to find a nursing home for Mum who we had to leave in QLD. Filed for bankruptcy as I had no money and my life just became a nightmare.

    Early 2015 I heard about 5:2 and thought I would give it a try but I was carrying all this baggage, had lost self confidence and couldn’t believe my world had been turned upside down. I really felt my life was over and I was so angry.

    Obviously I am now a carer for my Dad, still have sleepless nights wondering what is going to become of me, still get angry that life has dished this out but the discipline and support of the very special people on this forum kept me focussed. I didn’t always like the kick in the butt but as they say if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

    So there you have it. On the upside, I am in good health, now on the pension and Dad does help me financially. Mum is doing well all things considered.

    Have a good day everyone😊😊

    Intesha, Thankyou so much for sharing that. What a horrible thing to go through.
    I know that feeling of being in the mainstream of life with lots of choices and power and then being spat suddenly into a little scummy pool on the edge, with everyone else sailing past!
    We are so lucky in some ways, being in Australia, but we have a long way to go before we are really fair, and really making the most of every life.
    I am so glad you got through the nastiest bit.

    And isn’t it true that life is more wonderful without carrying around a whole lot of excess weight!

    Well it is morning here with little tot. Thank goodness I can have coffee on fast days! Watching ABC for kids (ofcourse).

    Cheers to everyone.

    Intesha – you are awesome, amazingly awesome. What underlies your story and your post is strength. Well done.

    Love and hugs,
    Merry

    Good moring everyone,

    Thin, you are an invaluable part of this thread! We all have those moments of misunderstanding and of being misunderstood. We all have different characters and we all need each other hereπŸ™‚

    FD today, and we will see what comes of it tomorrow. Starting at 66.6 – the scales have a diabolical sense of humour this morning. And that’s up 1.5kg on my all time low last week on Tues of 65.1. But- I am back on the horse and it will go the way of the other unwanted kilos. OH and I have had a discussion about his favourite biscuits – the ones he buys occasionally, and I say ‘I am addicted to these things’. They’re not that great, but somehow it’s the texture as well as the taste, and I wonder of they’re made of the equal quantities of fat and suga thing. However, after I polished off half the packet, and when he bought another packet the next day! and I managed to eat 4/5 of that packet, some in the evening after the bad news, and finished them off at 4.30am when I couldn’t sleep, we have a new agreement. If he buys them they have to be hidden somewhere totally unavailable to me, and I am not told they are there!!!

    Something I do miss being starchy carb free, and my much needed gluten free, is the texture of toast or a sandwich or this particular bisciit. There just doesn’t seem to be a replacement for it in the no grain gluten free world. GF products are a no-no while I normalise my weight, and most of them are pretty dreadful nutritionally anyway. Something I used to eat occasionally to get past the ‘lost textures’ thing is bhuja – the Indian snack mix, but it’s out while I normalise my weight too.

    Cinque – Lovely to hear you enjoying your Ittle grand daughter. She looks such a sweetie, and they are so delightful at that age. She would love the Tomblevus, Macca Pacca and UpsyDaisy, yes? On the gorgeous side also, we got a call 2 days ago from our 3yr old grandson to tell us he loved us. Out of the blue he just said, “I love Nanny and Pa, can we ring them? Can they come tomorrow on the plane? It is hard to be at a distance from the little ones. So much easier to be with them and up and down without the extra weight though! Yay!

    Onwards and Downwards,
    Merry

    Thanks Cinque and Merry. I am not looking for sympathy, anymore. In the early days I just wanted to fall apart and hope someone would pick me up, hold me and say everything is going to be okay but the problem of being strong is that is how you are perceived and nobody sees you crumbling.

    In amongst all of that I was in the middle of a legal battle, involving barristers and QC’s so that was not cheap. In the end when I had to deal with moving my parents I just caved in. It had already cost me a small fortune in legal fees and I ended up with less than half of the original settlement which didn’t even cover the legal fees. Hence the bankruptcy.

    I’m here and even though it’s still tough at times I am going to try and enjoy my life as much as possible.

    Losing those extra kilos with more to come, fitting into size 12 clothes and with a more positive attitude, life is not too bad.

    Thank you for your support.

    Another weigh in (my 5th since starting this new way of living) & another loss. That’s 14.5 kgs, which sounds a lot but isn’t really in the grand scheme of things. Can’t complain, especially since Sunday was what at best could be described a relaxed eating day. Two many visitors & too much bad food. πŸ™‚
    I actually found the two fast days this week (Mon & Wed) a bit easier. It does help that “She Who Must Be Obeyed” is also making the change.
    Happy fasting or regular (as I’ve come to call them) days ladies.

    You’ve really had a whole heap of crap going on, Intesha, and Merry and Cinque also are dealing with your health issues and stress that that brings, and I’m sorry to hear it. That you’ve all done so well in the weight losing stakes is a wonderful thing and something very much to be proud of. You’ve still got issues to deal with, but at least you’re dealing with them without all the difficulties that being overweight bring. Definitely something to be proud of.

    Again, I’ve missed a lot of things, having been out of “the loop” so to speak. I do remember you mentioning BMI, though, Merry, so I went and looked up mine also, which is 23.8 now. It’s within the realms of what’s regarded as “acceptable” but I know that preferably it should be lower. The last couple of weeks things have slowly been working their way downwards, weight wise – or they had at least (got down to 72.9 then up to 73 kilos where I remained for most of it). I had a huge splurgey day the other day, though, and haven’t weighed myself since then. It included heaps of “naughty” things – but gee, was lots of fun, and I felt fine after it too. Really, if I can sustain the occasional day like that and still maintain this weight, and slowly hopefully drop a bit more, I’d be quite happy. I really don’t want this to feel like one long dreary diet where I have to watch everything I eat and drink forever.

    Of course if there is too much of that, though, simply the weight will come back on again. I know that, so that’s where I’m trying to get the balance right where that really is the “odd” occasion and not the norm. Also, I’ve been soooo busy exercise has taken a back step, which for me is an important part of my weight loss. I’m hoping things are going to ease for me now a bit and I’ll have a bit more time for myself.

    Thin, I’d really love to get to catch up with you again before you go away on your big trip!! So if that’s the end of the month, let’s see if we can work something out.

    I agree 100 per cent with those re writing posts and being “misunderstood” and having to be so careful. I’ve noticed this in every single “forum” or forum type thing I’ve ever seen. Even if I’ve looked up reviews on washing machines, for example, or something innocuous, there will be a forum for it somewhere where all these people put forward their thoughts and without fail some misunderstanding will occur and some argey-bargey will start. I have my own theory as to why that occurs that’s along some kind of esoteric line which I won’t go into as it certainly wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea, but it certainly does just seem to be human nature, is all I’ll say, to make it simpler where I’m coming from. And, of course, yes, there’s the side of not hearing the tone, seeing the body language, things coming across blunter than they’re meant, etc, and how prickly someone may be when they read something – either as a personality, or at that moment. Many things – but it does make forums and the like very open to flare ups, in a general sense.

    I personally think one size doesn’t fit all, for all things really. For me, I don’t find carbs a problem as such. If the calories that come with them are too many for my body to burn off, then I’ll put on weight for sure, but I’ll do that with any food group that’s too many calories. If for others their bodies react in a specific way to a food group and they have to avoid them totally, then that’s right for their body and what they should be doing. Sharing what we’re all doing is very interesting and worthwhile, I think. It can make us think “ah, that’s a thought – I could try that and it might work for me”, or “no, I don’t fancy that, but it’s interesting it works for you” – or whatever. But basically, everyone is on everyone else’s side here – all wanting to support and encourage and wanting the best for each other, and that’s a lovely thing.

    I’m sure there were other things I wanted to say, but I can’t remember them. Oh, yeah, just to mention briefly, I had mentioned my daughter’s pregnancy, and alas she has miscarried. It’s been sad, but she’s coping well now. I thought I’d better give an update in case anyone asked how it was going later on. Perhaps I shouldn’t have said anything in the first place, but I got a bit excited… oh, well.

    A fasting day for me, and for a few others today, I believe. And, Cinque, you definitely don’t come across as being “difficult” to me, I just remembered you writing now!

    I hope everyone in stormy areas stays safe and comfortable and happy fasting day to everyone.

    Dan, that’s a great weight loss. I don’t know how much you have to lose, but regardless, that IS great. It’s great for you that your OH is onboard with what you’re doing. Harder for you, JudyF in that regard. For me on FDs I do my own thing, and my OH does his. He’s quite happy with that. Sometimes I try and make sure he’s covered a bit on my FDs, just because I care about him, but he’s a big boy now, basically he can feed himself, haha, so I don’t worry too much.

    Intesha, I’ve just had a thought – which may be totally inappropriate for you and your life, or whatever, as clearly I don’t know much about you – but it’s with regards to work. I don’t know what your skills are, or line of work you were in, but my line of work is in the legal transcription area, and done from home, and our company is looking to employ new people as we have more work than we can deal with currently. I won’t go into it here, being a public forum, but it involves typing all day basically – certainly not for everyone! Anyway, if there’s any interest at all let me know and I’ll see if we can be in contact privately. And if not, that’s fine and I hope you don’t mind me mentioning it. I was just thinking of you really and with best intentions πŸ™‚

    Oh, and I should qualify that, when I say “our company” I mean the company I do most of my work for as a subcontractor. The company is not my company, or any affiliation, purely an employee of a type πŸ™‚

    Vego thank you for thinking of me I appreciate that. It would depend on what’s involved and obviously I have to be careful with the pension. I was an EA in a past life. Thin has my email details but not sure I could fit it in, also I live in Sydney.

    What’s an EA Intesha? As soon as I post this, I will realise and feel an idiot. Just say if you two would like to be put in touch – a lot easier than going through the site here.

    That’s no worries, and it probably isn’t something that would be for you, I agree. Still, I’ll ask Thin if she wouldn’t mind passing on your email and I’ll write to you direct and not say any more about it on here, as I don’t want to be kicked off for not sticking to the guidelines of the subject matter πŸ™‚

    Thin Executive Administrative Assistant.

    That’s an EAA then! I still wouldn’t have known but it sounds posh. VDU, I’ll like to do your job from home but I can’t type fast enough. I’ll pass your email to Intesha.

    Loved all the posts today, great reading. VDU, you really had me laughing about the washing machine reviews – that’s so funny and so true. When we next meet, I’ll get your theory on why, while hiding behind an anonymous identity, people think it’s fine to be rude or launch personal attacks.

    I’ve never felt anything but genuine kindness and support here and I thank all of you for that. Whatever stage we’ve reached with this 5:2, we’re all here now so we must be proud of that and celebrate our great achievements and intentions regarding taking control of our health.

    Judy, I thought it took a lot of courage to post with such honesty about caving in to KFC at 5pm on a FD. I hope this has been a better week for you and you find can the balance that others are talking about. Merry, it can be so hard to stop once you start – sugar is so addictive. I’ve had a lot of those discussions with my OH – I’d get annoyed if he hid chocolate in the garage and annoyed if he shared it with me. Finally, I got to the point of thinking, ‘that’s your insulin, not my problem’.

    Dan, I’m so pleased you’re continuing to post and that your OH is also on board. That’ll make everything easier. I’m excited about your 14.5 kg loss; I’ve seen elsewhere where you started and it doesn’t matter. On Sunday, you posted that you felt like you were doing something wrong – you weren’t. It’s good that you want to change your overall eating habits but, as VDU says above, you’re entitled to be a little bit naughty on the ‘other five’ otherwise it’s just another dreary diet. A boy’s gotta have some fun.

    Intesha, I hadn’t realised that the parent dramas began with them being interstate. That must have been so hard.

    Cinque, how’s your FD going today? I have visions of you with all your clothes sliding off as you gradually fade away.

    Have a great day everyone.

    Hi everyone,
    great insight and discussion here.

    I might pull out my swinsuit and see what it looks like!

    I’ve just had my miso soup.
    I had a great meeting for my community food project and feel like it is properly on track (finally). That gave me enough oomph to drive to Friends of the Earth which is the best place I have found to buy good miso (full of the wonderful ferment, unpastuerised) and delicious. Expensive though! $30 a kilo and I bought about that much, but it will last in the fridge and it takes 6 months or more to go through it. So that meant I could make my miso soup! Greens from the garden (chard and chives) a tenderloin and some soaked shiitake mushrooms. I feel good!

    BUT I did have a bit of lunch! 2 thin pieces of pastrami and some roasted capsicum on a small piece of foccacia. Clear eyed decision so it wasn’t a fast day fail, just one with slightly higher calories than usual πŸ˜‰ And lunchtime shared with family so that was special. A one off! Still less than 700 cal for the day.

    I’ve got that documentary on people going sugar free taping (SBS 7:30)

    Dan is sounds like you are nicely into the swing of 5:2 and slow and steady wins the race (Although you have already lost more than me, who began l5:2ing last July!) So glad SWMBO is on board, it should make everything easier.

    Cheers to you all! ‘Sugar Free Farm’ is starting so I will watch it live πŸ˜‰

    Well, Sugar Free Farm (episode 1) was quite interesting in a reality show way, considering I had never heard of 5 of the ‘celebrities’ and only had vaguely heard the name of the 6th. Interesting enough to watch again next week anyway!

    Night time now. I was going to mention that I was just as hungry as ever on a Fast day late afternoon, in spite of having a lunchtime snack, so that was interesting. (I’m not planning to do it again, it was a one off situation!)

    Intesha, hooray for your resilience.

    Vego, so sorry to hear of your daughter’s miscarriage. I hope she is okay. It is so sad when plans and dreams have begun, to say goodbye to the little growing baby. Sending best wishes.

    I’ve got my fingers crossed that the work you are talking about suits Intesha and that there is still a reasonable limit on earning that makes it workable!

    Merry, what a sensible pact you have with your OH. It is so often textures we miss, isn’t it. The desserts I miss most aren’t particularly sweet, (like muhallabia) but that mouth feel… oo, better not think about it!

    Thin, talking about how the addictive part of your personality could work with 5:2 to get addicted to the fast days, has made me think that the wonderful thing about 5:2 is that it can play to our strengths. I have been thinking about what it is for me, something to do with following simple rules and getting a trusted result I think!

    Oh dear, time to be off to bed, I might nearly be at the end of my sliding clothes adventure! But what if I do manage to lose one more inch off my waist, will any of my skirts still sit nicely?????

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