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7 Jul 17
Hi, if I did HIT Rowing 3 times per week, what is the advice re doing lower intensity cardio rowing on the rest days to build up stamina? Would this inhibit the muscle regeneration from the previous days HIT? I want tO do HIT for weight loss but at same time I’d like to improve my overall fitness and stamina. Thx
11 Aug 17
It is difficult if not impossible to both lose fat and build muscle at the same time. It is much simpler to relax and focus on one or the other. Pick your goal. If fat loss loss is what you want, and I assume it is or you wouldn’t be here, do an occasional HIIT routine. Or better yet a quick weight routine. And that’s it. Go low carb or keto. And lose away.
12 Aug 17
What are you trying to achieve with those different tasks? Sub maximal effort exercise for extended periods of time will improve cardio and endurance. To show large gains you probably need to do this 3 times per week. Doing HIT will have a small benefit in weight loss but most people that say they do HIT really don’t do it. If you can maintain that intensity for longer than about 30 seconds it wasn’t HIT. If you don’t feel physically ill after the 30 second burst then it wasn’t HIT. Not sure HIT will increase muscle mass that much? If you want to build muscle mass then you need to do resistance training, weights etc. If you want to lose weight then its mostly diet related, HIT will have a small impact on weight loss. So as fitnfast has said pick your goal.
Weight loss = diet
cardio = endurance training
muscle mass = resistance training
It is possible to build muscle and lose fat whilst on 5:2. The problem you will have is that muscle is denser than fat so you may in the short term become fitter and thinner but weigh the same. If your objective is just to lose weight, then focus on that. If you are prepared to lose weight at a slower rate whilst gaining muscle and getting fitter, then go for that. Both are possible as long as you are clear in your mind what your aim is and how you are going to get there.
19 Aug 17
Apologies for delay in replying, my notifications went into spam. Overall my goal is to lose 10kg as fast as possible not muscle groth. Sorry if I wasn’t clear about the HIT rest days. I had understood that the HIT rest days are to allow the micro-tears in muscles to repair. But doing nothing on those rest days kind of irks me. I was wondering if I could do some lower intensity rowing for a longer period (or even running) in order to still be burning calories/fat and at same improve overall fitness and stamina.
21 Aug 17
@madeinuk66 – I have been building muscle faster on 5:2 than on any diet using HIT. However if you do the same thing on your rest days you are likely to risk injury to the muscles that are repairing themselves even if you goal isn’t to build muscle. Why not use a different activity on the rest days? For example maybe pushups and/or planking instead of rowing. Something the mainly uses different muscles. Maybe not as hard, but something just to help your fitness.
22 Aug 17
There are actually a lot of different forms of HIIT. What I did in cross country training in high school would probably kill me now! At the time it was common for one or two to even throw up during the interval workouts. Typically we had to 6 to 10 cycles and we had to run at set paces that were painfully fast. Typically 10 cycles of either quarter mile or half mile. The rest was just until our heartrate hit a certain threshold, and it was always way too short for comfort. After the last cycle you might just lay on the ground for 10 minutes before getting up to slowly go back to the locker room and clean up. There wasn’t any talking after those workouts. That was decades ago.
Five years ago I started with Tabata style. Basically 20 seconds hard, rest 10, repeat 4 times for one set. Can be the same or different exercises. I did different because I was out of shape. It was effective but as I got into shape I fell into old cardio habits and did a lot of running.
Over time I learned a lot of bodyweight exercises. If you want to feel what a painful death could be like, do HIIT workout with mountain climbers. That is if you are pushing to the max.
I’ve been doing Sprint 8 style because I’ve reach a point where the first two hard intervals don’t tax me enough. Typically it isn’t until there 3rd one that I feel like is going to kill me. Ideally I want to see my heart rate hitting around 170 and then in the rest period going to the 120’s. The recovery cycle is just as important as the sprinting.
Currently I use a 30s hard 90s recovery cycle and I repeat that 8 times. Early on I typically start early because my recovery is fast. By number 7 I typically can’t recover in 90 seconds. Also if you can talk after the sprint you aren’t breathing hard enough. Typically by #3 I’m at that level. I don’t think there is anything that special about 30s. It is just pushing yourself too exhaustion, whatever it takes.
23 Aug 17
Thanks guys appreciate your replies.
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