hi holly789

went 2 glamour magazine http://www.glamour.com/
put in search 5:2
or fast or diet or all kinds of combos

also searched on google scholar

google bing etc

nothing on all sites

may we please have the link of ur article
it always helps 2 look @ the whole article

thanks
& congrats on ur half a stone 🙂

if u could type where they got this info
we can research that
thnks

thanks aniann

4 finding these links

now i know where the energy insomia comes from

but 4 women over 50 it seems 2 be good

“They also become increasingly alert and active, which may account for the fact women are also more susceptible to insomnia on the 5:2 regime.” that’s me 😀

“This dangerous apple-shape becomes more common in women after menopause, which suggests there may be some benefits to the 5:2 regime for those over 50. However, for younger women there are serious concerns about fasting and fertility.

Studies at the American National Institute on Ageing found that when rats are put on a restricted diet the females stop ovulating and their ovaries shrink.

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/373665/Caveman-fasting-diet-may-leave-women-diabetic

i think if i still wanted 2 create a family

i would be kind of scared of sabotaging that

i know how hard it was 2 create
& never did

however, as pointed out in this article

“The studies that show decreased fertility levels in rats and mice are pretty much irrelevant to humans because they are ‘foragers’ compared to us hunter-gatherers. Any period of time that a species who forage for food (and therefore rarely go without it) is likely to trigger a decrease in reproduction hormones as the message their body is receiving is that ‘food is scarce’. Throughout the Paleolithic era (the majority of the time humans have been on earth) we ate intermittently naturally, when we could find and hunt for food.
A recent study in human females in the International Journal of Fertility and Sterility (2010) looked at the effect of intermittent fasting on ovulation and fertility hormones such as follicle stimulating hormone, estradiol and progesterone, in 24 women with normal menstrual cycles. They found that there were no changes in these hormones when fasting compared with not fasting, and no changes at all in ovulation.”

http://ifasters.com/intermittent-fasting-and-fertility-in-women/

thanks again 4 alerting us Holly789

% 4 aniann supplying the links

it’s nice 2 have a forum that lets us make our informed decisions. don’t we have the greatest and nicest forum on the planet

so proud of this place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
many other forums

so many r nasty 🙁

yay yay yay 😀

thanks 2 u

@ least now u know that rats r not u
& that they have a good reason 2 stop producing

we r like our ancestors that did THE IF
naturally & no problems in producing
🙂

Glad you found the links useful. Holly, you were right to have some concern but at least you can now relax a little. I’m always very suspicious of women’s magazines sensationalising things just for the sake of a story. Talking with your doctor is always the best thing to do. I thought mine would say the 5:2 wasn’t good but quite the opposite. He said his wife was using it and very successfully. He’s quite young so I’m guessing she must be too. Therefore neither of them are worrying that it will affect fertility. 🙂

Holly789

it was not me w/ that point though ur welcome 😉 it was in the link

c b low

“The studies that show decreased fertility levels in rats and mice are pretty much irrelevant to humans because they are ‘foragers’ compared to us hunter-gatherers. Any period of time that a species who forage for food (and therefore rarely go without it) is likely to trigger a decrease in reproduction hormones as the message their body is receiving is that ‘food is scarce’. Throughout the Paleolithic era (the majority of the time humans have been on earth) we ate intermittently naturally, when we could find and hunt for food.
A recent study in human females in the International Journal of Fertility and Sterility (2010) looked at the effect of intermittent fasting on ovulation and fertility hormones such as follicle stimulating hormone, estradiol and progesterone, in 24 women with normal menstrual cycles. They found that there were no changes in these hormones when fasting compared with not fasting, and no changes at all in ovulation.”

http://ifasters.com/intermittent-fasting-and-fertility-in-women/

& ljc1011

i just finished praising our forum on how nice we all r
i guess it was one of those fastday crankinesses 😀

holly still thanks
these r legitimate concerns 4 all

wish u continued success in this fastday lifestyle
please still share w/ us

Holly, I think Glamour magazine published a misstatement when the article said that the research done on intermittent fasting was mostly done on men (as far as I know, there is no published research on the 5:2 diet itself). The research for the 2-Day Diet, which also involves intermittent fasting, was done on women because the researchers were interested in preventing breast cancer, and 90% of the people who get breast cancer are women. The research that Krista Varady has done in Chicago on alternate-day fasting involved both women and men (Mosley & Spencer, “The FastDiet”, chapter 1). Since they seem to have missed these important studies, I don’t think they have all the information they need to publish a well-informed article.

It seems likely that breast cancer researchers might have monitored levels of estrogen, progesterone, etc., but I do not know if they in fact did so. I wonder if Michael Mosley might know.

I wonder where Glamour magazine got the idea that intermittent fasting leads to worse blood sugar control for women. If they have actual evidence of that it would be of concern. But the breast cancer researchers reported that the 2-day dieters had a greater improvement in their insulin function than the daily dieters in their study did (Michelle Harvie & Tony Howell, “The 2-Day Diet,” chapter 1).

Personally I’m more inclined to believe the NHS than these scaremongers

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/01January/Pages/Does-the-5-2-intermittent-fasting-diet-work.aspx

I saw this article yesterday evening whilst waiting in the dr surgery.

I did panic a bit but am going to do some research.

Given that fasting allows the body to have a rest from digestion and start repairing(as I understand it), it would make sense that it would actually help fertility issues.

A point made in the article (by one of the experts in fertility – Zita West, I think) was that it stresses the body (a good thing in some respects) so ovulation moves down the list of important things for the body to do.

It would be interesting to see what Dr Christine Northrup has to say on the topic as she’s an expert in women’s health

Anyway, the comments above are very helpful – many thanks 🙂

Holly789

this was discussed & our very helpful posters research w/ the links 2 the original article

basically the conclusion is

“The studies that show decreased fertility levels in rats and mice are pretty much irrelevant to humans because they are ‘foragers’ compared to us hunter-gatherers. Any period of time that a species who forage for food (and therefore rarely go without it) is likely to trigger a decrease in reproduction hormones as the message their body is receiving is that ‘food is scarce’. Throughout the Paleolithic era (the majority of the time humans have been on earth) we ate intermittently naturally, when we could find and hunt for food.
A recent study in human females in the International Journal of Fertility and Sterility (2010) looked at the effect of intermittent fasting on ovulation and fertility hormones such as follicle stimulating hormone, estradiol and progesterone, in 24 women with normal menstrual cycles. They found that there were no changes in these hormones when fasting compared with not fasting, and no changes at all in ovulation.”

http://ifasters.com/intermittent-fasting-and-fertility-in-women/

u will enjoy how the conclusion came about it is so cool how we rallied around the young lady she had every right 2 b concerned

5:2 is bad for female health?

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/52-is-bad-for-female-health/#post-9750

While I would question the legitimacy of an article in Glamour magazine, I have experienced extremely erratic cycles on 5:2 (I used to be like clockwork, tracked through an iPhone app). I have been on 5:2 for almost one year now and have lost 10kg as a result (current weight is 58kg). Since October last year, so 5 months after I started, I’ve had 3 or 4 very light cycles when I should have had at least 7.

Just for reference I’m 29 years old.

Since I am 54, my periods are supposed to be erratic or even end, but they have only changed.

When you, I noticed when I lose weight that my periods were slightly off (late and lighter) for a bit until my body became used to the reduced amount of mass.

I started fasting last April after being attracted by the health claims. I was a fit healthy person but wanted to do all I could. For the first 6 months I felt great and lost half a stone. I then noticed that my periods had started to be very irregular and my PMT was terrible. I got tested by the doctor for all sorts of things as I started to feel terrible, had insomnia and no energy. My partner suggested it might be the Fast diet but as I was such an advocate for it I didn’t want to see the link. I continued until July this year and to be honest was not enjoying it at all. I felt controlled by it, looked older and was more stressed. So i finally gave up. My periods have returned to normal. I feel better and sleep better. However I have put on a stone since stopping so weigh more than before I started. I eat v healthily and exercise every day. So I am questioning the claims that it doesn’t affect your metabolism. I have since read many personal testimonials form Pre menopausal woman who have had similar negative experiences. I would just like woman to make sure they do as much research as possible before starting and if it doesn’t work for them to stop.