no benefit in reducing salt / low sodium intake can be harmful.

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wiltldnrUSA

3:41 pm
11 Sep 13
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no benefit in reducing salt / low sodium intake can be harmful.

my nu doc said that my sodium level is 2 low

however
my ex doc said u have high blood pressure
dont have more 1,500 mg of salt this a better part of 6 years

so now i’ll go get some sea salt
2 add 2 my cooking

maybe on the airpopcorn i make on fastdays 🙂

the evidence from studies is insufficient to
recommend restricting sodium intake to the
previously recommended 1,500 mg or 2,300
milligram levels.
Some studies even claim that a low sodium intake can be harmful.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/samuel-j-mann-md/sodium-controversy_b_3826298.html

CDC: Salt Intake Guidelines Were Wrong; No Great Benefit In Reducing Dietary Salt

http://www.medicaldaily.com/cdc-salt-intake-guidelines-were-wrong-no-great-benefit-reducing-dietary-salt-247626

i could use it 4 scrubbing 2

coffeegal

4:07 am
15 Sep 13
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You have to be very careful when you read news stories about scientific studies. If the reporter isn’t a scientist (and many aren’t) errors can creep in because the science isn’t fully understod or something basic is overlooked.

In the second report you link to it says;

“Researchers concluded that one-and-a-half to three tablespoons of salt per day is not detrimental to a person’s health, contrary to past belief.”

Three tablespoons of salt weighs about sixty grammes – which is about a mole* of sodium chloride (58.44g), containing one mole of sodium. That’s 23g or 23,000mg sodium content. That’s a HUGE amount and is most certainly detrimental to a person’s health.

What they meant, of course, was three teaspoons.

The news report title is “CDC: Salt Intake Guidelines Were Wrong; No Great Benefit In Reducing Dietary Salt” – and that is a complete misrepresentation of what the scientific study actually concluded.

It’s a mistake to read the news report and take away the message that you don’t need to reduce salt. That’s not what the study shows at all. The average adult in the USA still consumes far more salt than is healthy (3,400mg per day). What’s new with the study is that there’s no evidence to suggest that cutting salt to below 2,300mg daily (still a significant reduction) brings extra health benefits.

Please don’t take the article as a carte blanche to use as much salt as you want without adverse effect, especially not three tablespoons a day.

Sarah

* For an explanation of what a mole is, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(unit)

aniann

6:46 am
15 Sep 13
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I’m always very wary of what I read on the internet, unless I know it has truly come from a scientific source. With regard to salt, too much is definitely not good. I don’t need to read reams of research papers to tell me this. I have high blood pressure and I still use real salt. Sea salt to be exact because I find I need less of it. I do limit how much salt I might add to food and if I’m eating something factory prepared I don’t add any salt. I actually find the amount of salt added to prepared foods frightening, in particular foods targeted at children. Same goes for sugar.

wiltldnrUSA

4:30 pm
15 Sep 13
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aniann

well i wasn’t using any

thus the low sodium results

the sea salt is good i like that

& ur right about being wary that’s why i always put the link or more links

so that we can make our own informed decision

so have many happy healthy sodium level days ♫♥♥♫ & lower blood pressure ♫♥♥♫

wiltldnrUSA

4:32 pm
15 Sep 13
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coffeegal

u r right thus the links

my doc said get c salt

enjoying it ♫♫♫♫♥♥♥♥♥♫♫♫♫

coffeegal

1:31 pm
16 Sep 13
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I was sufficiently concerned about the errors in the Medicine Daily article that I wrote to the editor highlighting my concerns. The article has now been re-titled and content clarified to reflect the findings of the study more accurately.

Sarah

rockyromero

6:03 pm
16 Sep 13
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@aniann
” I actually find the amount of salt added to prepared foods frightening, in particular foods targeted at children. Same goes for sugar.”

I agree.

The only time that I ever intentionally took salt tablets for health reasons was when I was an athlete. We would sweat profusely and lose a lot of water too quickly. My coach would give us all tablets to replenish the loss.

I have not sweated as much since those days.

➰

wiltldnrUSA

7:37 pm
16 Sep 13
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coffeegal

thanks

did they give u the new link?

coffeegal

2:58 am
17 Sep 13
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The story has been moved to http://www.medicaldaily.com/cdc-salt-intake-guidelines-were-wrong-most-people-no-great-benefit-dramatically-reducing-dietary

The old link should redirect to this.

Having thought through the figures a bit it’s clear that even 3 teaspoons of salt per day is far too much. A single teaspoon is nearer the mark.

Sarah

wiltldnrUSA

4:36 pm
17 Sep 13
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coffeegal

thanks reread

still there is much confusion out there

docs & scientist r still battling over this ugh

i must a admit it was a surprise 2 my tastes by not having salt 4 a long time

but a very little c salt goes a long way 😀

i just hope it increases my sodium 4 when the next big medical exam comes around

stratford fitness

1:57 pm
19 Sep 13
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Here’s a great article on Intermittent fasting 🙂

http://stratforduponavonfitness.co.uk/intermittent-fasting/

wiltldnrUSA

3:08 pm
26 Sep 13
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coffegal

sarah,

& tommorrow

i do not want the bellyfatbuttfat topic 2 exist anymore
& become 1 in the popular link

so decided 2 use this topic 2 answer u:) from that topic will do the same 4 tomorrow

science is great! i agree tomorrow

here is a symposium that in the beginning of the video
4 me

is super interesting as a nonscientist then it get’s way complex

HGP10 Symposium: Interplay between Gut Microbiota and Immune System – Claire Fraser Published on Apr 30, 2013
April 25, 2013 – The Genomics Landscape a Decade after the Human Genome Project

she is a very good speaker (but what she says about what is going on in the scientist world is fascinating they r known 4 their research

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwk9Njawv0g

concerning the flax milk

i found u a homemade one

Homemade Flax Milk.

3 Cups Cold Water
1/2 Cup Whole Flax Seeds
1/2- 1 cup additional water (to add after straining)
Vanilla Extract to taste (or fresh vanilla bean).

In a blender combine the 3 cups of water and 1/2 cup of flax seeds. Process for maybe a minute. Using cheesecloth or Pantyhose. (new ones – that you don’t mind cutting up!) Strain the milk. Tip: Pour a bunch of the milk into the cheesecloth, twist the top and then gently squeeze thick milk into a cup.
To the strained thick milk add 1/2-1 cup of additional water. add a splash of vanilla to your liking.
Store in the fridge. Yield 1-2 servings.

utube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLImOHsjsmY

i usually don’t like any alternative milks but this taste good & super low calorie

even my very picky eater niece drank this accidentally & on her cereal (i just smiled) because she hates coming 2 her aunt she has brown rice no sweets weird food whaaaaa

now i have not tried the homemade one 🙂

oh by the way what nickname did u pick mine was flatbelly

and stephb was bottomless & tomorrow hasn’t given 1

urs? 😀

wiltldnrUSA

3:26 pm
26 Sep 13
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stratford fitness

u may call me usa

“The best diet to adopt with IF in my experience
is a low carb moderate protein and high fat diet
at around 25-30% of your calories from protein
50-60% form fat and 15-20% from carbs,
everyone will react differently and you
should then change variables accordingly.
I would also eat slightly more carbs on the days
you workout, drink nothing but water,
eat a large portion of vegetables ”

interesting blog

however where’s the rest?

i’m a IFLCHFCCMED

(intermittentfastinglowcarbhighfatcarbcyclingmediterranean)

might as well smash all the best w/ the most important the fastday lifestyle 😀

so i guess i’m a FDL 😀